an ominous comment

[Stephen D. Williams]

On 7/20/15 10:32 PM, Juan wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:36:57 -0700
> "Stephen D. Williams" <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
>
>> On 7/20/15 9:07 PM, Juan wrote:
>>> 	Hey. *Now* I get it.
>>>
>>> 	This mailing list has a lot of tor-tards who are apologists
>>> of the pentagon's propaganda and spying efforts.
>> Are you saying that the Pentagon is never good or useful?  Nor are
>> any of their spying efforts?
> 	Are you saying the pentagon is good and useful?

The Pentagon et al are protecting a large portion of the world from being overrun.  Nobody else will do it.

>> ... 
>> when they don't determine their goals or rules of
>> engagement?  Their job is to be a bad ass tool, the proverbial big
>> stick.  It is someone else's job to decide how to use that tool.
>> Marines don't kill people, politicians using Marines kill people.
>> Err, something like that.
>
> 	Marines and other 'military personnel' murder people when
> 	'ordered' to. They are the worst scumbags on earth.
>
> 	Politicians are morally responsible. The military are morally
> 	and materially responsible.

Are police always bad too?

> ...
> Is everyone from the CIA scumbags by definition?
> 	Yes.

Whatever you gotta believe.  Most of their job is to understand the world, publishing both a nice public database and the 
presidential daily brief (today's news).  And to consult with the President as need so that hopefully reasonably intelligent 
decisions are made, but that depends on the intelligence of the current president.

>> ... 
>
> ...
>>> J.
>>>
>> What's your alternative to all of these things?  If you really are
>> into security in any sense, you should be able to explain what
>> security exposures moderating or eliminating those entities would
>> cause and what you would advocate to replace them.
>
> 	Are you talking about the US military?
And FBI, CIA, State, Google, etc.
>
>
>
>> I'm offended in various ways by a lot of what happened in the past,
>> often in organizations like DOJ, FBI, etc. that should have known
>> better.
> 	Should they? Looks like you don't know what government is.
Wha?
>
>
>
>> I would even say that a lot of government employees and
>> contractors seem to have got away with a lot of things they shouldn't
>> have.  But that doesn't mean that any of those organizations are
>> fundamentally evil and aren't almost completely staffed by
>> intelligent, respectable people.
> 	
> 	LOL. So, how much trolling should I let you get away with?
>
> 	Worthless murdering scumbags are 'respectable' people and not
> 	'fundamentally evil'. Sure. Maybe they are 'accidentally'
> 	evil?

DOJ, Treasury, State, HHS, etc. are filled with worthless murdering scumbags?

There are certain people, Marines et al, who are trained to be very lethal.  Sucks to need that, but being anything less than the 
strongest & baddest isn't an option for the US.  They are concentrated, supposed to be carefully deployed and directed. Create 
people like that from the subset of people who want to be like that and a few are going to go off the rails occasionally. That's a 
bummer, and needs to be constantly protected against, but there's no obvious alternative.

The US is the least imperialist top superpower that ever existed. Still not perfect, but better than all the rest.

> 	How about they 'accidentally' beat you to a pulp and then feed
> 	you to the pigs? Just as an innocent mistake of course...

Oh kay.  Are  you off your meds?
>> Anyway, if you're still in the rebelling against authority stage,
>> fine, have fun.  Good luck with that.  In the US, government wise,
>> the people are the authority
> 	Really? That's an interesting concept. How many lsd doses do
> 	you need in order to reach the parallel universe where that
> 	is reality? Because in this universe, it isn't.

You haven't been watching long or closely enough.  Things have changed a lot in the US in my lifetime, and it's only speeding up.

>> , their own authority in essence, it just
>> may take a long time for that to play out in a given area.
> 	Sure. That's how jesus planned it all.

Nonsense again.

>
>>   In some
>> ways, this is also true for companies, with some nuance.
>>
>> sdw
>>

sdw

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