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my point being that without a publicly available global network then backdooring IC's may not have been something they were interested in :)

But i guess they could still have seen some value in doing this and having modems phone home.



On 30 July 2015 09:39:08 BST, Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:
>On 07/30/2015 02:32 AM, oshwm wrote:
>> would a pre-internet era set of IC's and components kick-start the
>process a little without losing too much trust?
>> Use slow old IC's in parallel to gain something usable :)
>
>There was NSA before Internet ;)
>
>> On 30 July 2015 09:22:33 BST, Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:
>>> On 07/30/2015 01:52 AM, grarpamp wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Steve Kinney
><admin at pilobilus.net>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> <SNIP>
>>
>>>>> then it is not possible to build a trusted CPU.
>>>>
>>>> You watch while... I collect wood and ore and smelt into axe, you
>>>> trust axe. I split tree and assemble hut, you trust hut. I put
>>>> wheel in water and make mill, you trust flour. I give you magical
>>>> computer before I make abacus, you throw in river and order me
>>>> make abacus first. Eventually trusted CPU is made.
>>
>>> Woah! How many years to build the tool chain to a trusted CPU?
>>
>>> Also, how many people? And how to trust them? One bad apple, you
>know.
>>
>>
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