Cspace and Trilight software

Jason McVetta jason.mcvetta at gmail.com
Tue Dec 15 21:44:55 PST 2015

For those who may be curious, I was recently sent some information on the
history of CSpace.  The info has been included in the README:

Please note I have no insight into the accuracy of this history.  It was
provided unsolicited by a person I've never met.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Seth <list at sysfu.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 16:51:44 -0800, Seth <list at sysfu.com> wrote:
>> "Things become "catastrophic" for the NSA at level five - when, for
>> example, a subject uses a combination of Tor, another anonymization
>> service, the instant messaging system CSpace and a system for Internet
>> telephony (voice over IP) called ZRTP. This type of combination results in
>> a "near-total loss/lack of insight to target communications, presence," the
>> NSA document states.
> John Gilmore dug up the Cspace software (see below), and I believe this is
> the Trilight software/service mentioned in the NSA docs:
> https://www.trilightzone.org/
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> Subject: "Catastrophic" for NSA: Tor+ Trilight Zone + Cspace + ZRTP on
> Linux
> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 21:50:36 -0800
> From: John Gilmore <gnu[at]new.toad.com>
> Nice to hear that there's some software that makes NSA go deaf, dumb
> and blind.  Here is the Snowden release that mentions it (page 20):
>   "Presentation from the SIGDEV Conference 2012 explaining which
> encryption protocols and techniques can be attacked and which not"
>   http://www.spiegel.de/media/media-35535.pdf
> I found cspace (http://cspace.aabdalla.com/), which was a bit obscure
> and hasn't seen any maintenance since 2009 or so.  Its dependency
> ncrypt-0.6.4's source code is at Pypi and ncrypt-0.6.4 is in current
> Ubuntu distros.
> But I haven't yet found Trilight Zone.  Any clues?
> And I haven't found a reliable, usable, simple, free software VoIP
> client for Linux, let alone one that uses ZRTP.  Though I admit I gave
> up on looking about a year ago when I couldn't get anything to
> actually work.
>         John
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