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Cari Machet carimachet at
Sun Aug 2 16:49:54 PDT 2015

ok zenaan ur way 2 intelligent for everyone ...we get it but....

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 2:13 PM, odinn <odinn.cyberguerrilla at>

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> Not sure if someone already mentioned this, but what of ?
> Which offers professional support for products from that site,

why cant you yak your head (while slapping it) off about solution?

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 2:22 AM, Zenaan Harkness <zen at> wrote:

> On 8/2/15, Lodewijk andré de la porte <l at> wrote:
> > We will not get 50% of the population to use semi-good-crypto.
> Assuming you define TBB as semi-good crypto, the block AIUI to Mozilla
> incorporating Tor plugins/ mods into Firefox by default is simply that
> the Tor network cannot scale Internet wide. Yet. Because of course you
> know then we'd all be secure.
> But what do you define as semi-good crypto?
> > Far more
> > than that just do not give any damns at all.
> Agreed. But they might give some dollars for shiny new handset.
> > Legal protection for those that make insecure shit is so huge that
> society
> > is literally stacked against privacy as a whole. The "protected-consumer"
> > culture has led to widespread market failure - rather than think people
> buy
> > with their hearts. Simply put, "Think Different" turned into "Don't think
> > at all".
> You think you think? Bah! Thinking's overrated.
> > That said, I don't see why there's no company attempting to address the
> > niche of "I want it truly secure".
> Because there's no such thing as "truly secure" and marketing to the
> "I want it truly secure" crowd would likely result in deception, which
> due to the overly paranoid nature of such crowd, would quickly
> deconstruct the bullshit anywya.
> > Wouldn't governments like if the US
> > doesn't spy on them?
> Making a lot of assumptions there - such as "there are few enough
> politicians who are compromised (with sex or money), that the rest can
> stand strong in the face of the few".  Although the very recent French
> and Italian delegations to Crimea suggest at least some are capable of
> on the ground analysis in the face of the rest of their respective
> parliaments. Who knows, next we might see Greece running a referendum
> so the people can decide what their government should be doi... oh,
> hang on...
> > Wouldn't large companies' officers be very happy with
> > a secure e-mail/voice call system?
> And a way to get rid of those compromising images held by their
> respective national governments...
> > If it runs Android apps (protip: Android's JVM is open source) in a more
> > secure manner (like, uhm, in-hardware-sandboxing? Libre Hypervisor CPU
> with
> > the OS on it, and a jailed EvilCorp coprocessor that does the Android
> > stuff?) it doesn't seem to take that much to build a smartphone nowadays
> > (looking at Chinaphones, that is).
> <slaps forehead>
> Of course! We've all missed that obvious for so long - put JVM in a
> secure open source hypervisor and the world will be safe. That would
> even encourage me to be less sarcastic.
> > And, many of the people that want it "truly secure" will understand that
> > the products will cost more than a mass-produced NSA sponsored unit.
> Perhaps Google could kick this project off - they already own Android
> and they must have the dollars. In fact Intel could produce the CPU,
> Foxconn can build the handsets, Google can install the software and
> the NSA can deliver them to us^B^B^B sorry, the Postal Service can
> deliver them to us.
> We have a plan for a better world. It starts with money. Money and
> trust. Trust. But not without money. More money. And technology.
> Technology and money. I'll leave you to contact Goog to start this
> ball rolling.

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