Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept

[Mirimir]

On 04/07/2015 06:44 PM, Cari Machet wrote:
> mirimir i would have to dig up the quote where the fuck says that basically
> it is good us is invading to get back at the iraqi's for 9-11

Please do. I don't believe that he could ever have said that. It's
inconceivable. I can imagine that he might have opined that the Hussein
regime had to go. But I don't believe that he was ever dumb enough to go
for the 9-11 bullshit.

> umn the iraqi's had nothing to do with 9-11 and he swallowed that tripe...
> i am sorry but that is just stupid x 5 million

They obviously didn't. But you need a cite for your claim about him.

> i dont care about his excuses my pet spider even knew it was crap

I blame it on the Saudi Caliphate backers. They fucking nailed it :(

> if you can give him a pass for being 'apathetic' which i wouldnt frame it
> like that then that says a lot about you - its not apathy to support a
> fucking invasion of a people - people that are apathetic are like i dont
> know not oh yay lets do it it is a totally different mindset

I'm a very practical guy :)

> and that he is here in daily kos framing out this lie says more to me about
> his lack of character than anything and you of course didnt address that
> part - if the fuck was an actual person he could be like yay i sucked but
> now i know better i changed its so great we get to change our minds in our
> lifetimes and fucking grow but does gleenny do that no he cant face himself
> its pathetic he lives in his ego

You have a point ;)

> ego doesnt want people saying they are wrong ever and its a death echo
> chamber

I agree.

> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 04/07/2015 11:50 AM, Cari Machet wrote:
>>> dear mirimir you cannot read
>>>
>>> 'Nonetheless, because of the general faith I had in political and media
>>> institutions, I assumed - since both political parties and media outlets
>>> and journalists from across the ideological spectrum were united in
>> support
>>> of the war - that there must be some valid basis to the claim that Saddam
>>> posed a threat. My basic trust in these institutions neutralized the
>>> objections I had and led me to passively acquiesce to what was being done
>>> ("I believed then that the president was entitled to have his national
>>> security judgment deferred to, and to the extent that I was able to
>> develop
>>> a definitive view, I accepted his judgment that American security really
>>> would be enhanced by the invasion of this sovereign country.").'
>>>
>>> did you read the motherfucking article?
>>
>> Yes, I read the motherfucking article. He says that he was apathetic,
>> and trusted institutions (and even that asshole W). Maybe he needs to do
>> more mea culpas for that, or cut off his left pinkie. But unless you
>> cite some public statement where he actively supported the invasion,
>> rather than just deferred to arguably better-informed opinions, it's no
>> big deal in the current context. In my opinion.
>>
>>> this should tell you how duplicitous he is just like the government says
>> he
>>> didnt do anything - he didnt fuck that bitch - oh he fucked them hard
>> though
>>
>> I'd say rather that he let Uncle Dick finger fuck him, but just a little ;)
>>
>>> also daily kos sucks
>>
>> Yeah, I don't read that shit.
>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Razer <Rayzer at riseup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/06/2015 10:29 PM, Juan wrote:
>>>>> Well, everything should have been put in the public domain
>>>>>       from day zero. But Snowden thought that would hurt
>>>>>       the interests of the american nazi state. Or maybe he didn't
>>>>>       want to be killed like a dog. Who knows.
>>>>
>>>> I know. As many people who've attempted to change the Crypto-Fascist
>>>> shithole called "America" have noted, the powers that be ARE TOO STRONG
>>>> to take on... head on.
>>>>
>>>> Snowden has set in motion The 'death of a thousand (intelligence) cuts'
>>>> to weaken the surveillance state enough that the issue can be approached
>>>> at all in some way that MAY change it.
>>>>
>>>> As far as whether Greenwald and co or Snowden's a capitalist, or a
>>>> libertard, a demoncrat or rethuglican (the ONLY diff is who receives the
>>>> booty from our imperial adventurism where brown people die) ...is
>>>> absolutely irrelevant to the end result.
>>>>
>>>>
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