Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept

Shelley shelley at misanthropia.org
Mon Apr 6 14:59:39 PDT 2015


>> (sic) nazi's

And Godwin ends the thread!

Wondered how long it would take.  Cari doesn't disappoint (well, at least 
not in that regard...)

Troll on!

-S


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On April 6, 2015 2:28:57 PM Cari Machet <carimachet at gmail.com> wrote:

> bethany you are obviously NOT a journalist... its called exploitation
>
> i dont remember the images of the baby at hiroshima or the girl burned
> naked running in vietnam having the journalists fat head in the frame
>
> guess who gets their picture took with dead bodies? smiling american
> soldiers have in afghanistan and nazi's - i am sure you can look those
> images up for yourself i wont be a party to it
>
> just because you dont understand ethics doesnt mean they dont exist
>
> being filmed with dead bodies is absolutely a breech of journalistic ethics
>
> ++++++++++++++++++
>
> thanks alexis for your analysis of tor i heartily agree with your
> conclusion
>
> look into a blow up of @emptywheel had regarding her protections of @pierre
> when the whole ukranian thing was revealed she has to do a lot of dancing
> to dodge the bullets coming her way ...
>
> when i get time later i will look it up for you
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Bethany <groundhog593 at riseup.net> wrote:
>
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> > On 06/04/15 12:59 PM, Cari Machet wrote:
> > > its not a 'claim' watch his film that was up for an academy award
> > >
> > > there is a scene in mogadishu where he is in the morgue there is a dead
> > body and him in the scene he is standing right next to it - the person was
> > hit by a drone strike
> > >
> > > no journalist gets filmed with dead bodies it is unethical it never
> > happens
> > >
> > > perhaps if you were a journalist in the field you would understand
> >
> >
> >
> > Absolutely. The first thing any good journalist should think when he's
> > investigating drone strikes and is permitted to witness the examination of
> > a body of a victim is "shit, don't film me here, where I am! So gauche!"
> >
> > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Alexis Wattel <alexiswattel at gmail.com
> > <mailto:alexiswattel at gmail.com> <alexiswattel at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Speaking about facts checking: intrigued by these allegations I
> > looked up wiki on Omydiar, and his network association is said to have
> > partnered with the CIA, which is not generally all about "philanthropy",
> > although this claim lack any reference.
> > >
> > >     Would someone know why is the Agency mentioned there?
> > >
> > >     Aside from that, financed projects include "mobile intelligence" for
> > prospectors and deploying banks onto mobile phones to make sure everyone
> > even in Africa pays his fees to the landlords. They even dare to say it's
> > cheaper than cash. I wonder how that is.
> > >
> > >
> > >     Anyway... Wild allegations are very entertaining, but seriously
> > what's the real meaning of this about Tor?
> > >     Because no technical evidence suggest it is "backdoored" (whatever
> > that would mean, this is a trendy word, makes the one who says it sound so
> > l33t in journalism circles).
> > >
> > >     On the other hand, Tor devs are more and more often prone on
> > reminding that traffic analysis/correlation is not part of their threat
> > model. The problem is that it is nowadays a definitely proven capability of
> > adversaries.
> > >
> > >     I really can't help thinking this is a deliberate desire of keeping
> > Tor at government's reach because the eternal argument they oppose do not
> > stand. They say that randomized wait times at each relay would make the
> > traffic too slow. But I remember using Tor 8 years ago when it took forever
> > to load a Web page, and still did I use it in spite of this major extra
> > effort, because anonymous surfing was such a blast.
> > >     Today the network is fast enough to be able to swap 25% speed for a
> > massive increase of anonymity.
> > >     The other solution, randomized length of packets with dummy padding
> > discarded at each relay would impact even less on responsiveness.
> > >
> > >     I honestly can't see why they legitimately refuse to implement this.
> > >     They seem to think that the need to observe both ends is too hard.
> > Did they hear about the BGP routing attack that targeted Iceland? Funny how
> > the Silk Road server was found a month later in... Oh shit, Iceland.
> > >
> > >     When you claim to protect activists with government money, you'd
> > better not show dubious intentions if people trust are what you depend on.
> > Because that's why Tor was opened at first. The government officials needed
> > to hide among civilian traffic. They do need the people to run nodes.
> > >
> > >     Le 6 avril 2015 15:04:21 CEST, xezha <xezha at riseup.net
> > <mailto:xezha at riseup.net> <xezha at riseup.net>> a écrit :
> > >
> > >
> > > I think I may have to leave this list.
> > >
> > > Can you really not tell the difference between a real article and
> > something made up/joke/propaganda?
> > > Please be a little more critical and back up for claims before
> > slandering someones name. Even 5 minutes of research with google will
> > demonstrate that you are the only source of ANY claims about Jeremy
> > Scahills unethical journalism. You seem to have a screw loose.
> > >
> > > Xe
> > >
> > >
> > > On 06/04/15 02:35, Cari Machet wrote:
> > > > thank you!!
> > >
> > > > i just want to say that @jeremyscahill took a selfie with a (murdered)
> > dead body which no & i mean no journalist does - no one ... he is a very
> > sick capitalist fascist
> > >
> > > > he has done more than this but i wont go on & on
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:58 AM, Juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:juan.g71 at gmail.com> <juan.g71 at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:juan.g71 at gmail.com> <juan.g71 at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:juan.g71 at gmail.com> <juan.g71 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > >     On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:29:06 -0700
> > > >     Seth <list at sysfu.com <mailto:list at sysfu.com> <list at sysfu.com>
> > <mailto:list at sysfu.com> <list at sysfu.com> <mailto:list at sysfu.com>
> > <list at sysfu.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > >     > It's about damn time ;)
> > > >     >
> > > >     >
> > 
> http://chronicle.su/2015/03/07/greenwald-scahill-step-down-from-the-intercept/
> > > >     >
> > > >     >
> > >
> > >
> > > >             is this some kind of stupid 'joke' ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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