Time for IETF witch hunt? (was: NSA Co-Chairs of Crypto Forum Research Group, Legitimacy of WebCrypto API in Doubt)

odinn odinn.cyberguerrilla at riseup.net
Sat Oct 25 12:33:07 PDT 2014


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Hopefully this can be thought of not as a witch hunt, but as an
encouragement for people to both participate more in lists where
crypto is discussed as well as keep an eye out for these very issues
of NSA influence (as well as influence from various corporation-state
actors regardless of their geographical place of origin) on an ongoing
basis.

Nicolas Bourbaki wrote:
> Is this a victory? Has anything been learned from the process? We
> know that regime changes are meaningless if the means of governance
> are not also reformed.
> 
> In July of 2013 JFC Morfin registered an appeal [1] to the IAB
> (IETF governing body). He asked the IAB to consider how the concept
> of a protocol should account for social and ethical requirements.
> The IAB's response [2] was terse. It showed that these governing
> bodies lack the means and will to consider how the tools they
> develop effect people.
> 
> We sit in a time where the architect of good citizenry is being 
> increasingly dictated by undemocratic institutions. We are quickly 
> trading space beholden to social contracts of the commons for
> those built by neo-liberal corporations. The ethics of "the
> protocol" is dictated by whichever company provides the most coffee
> and cake for the next workgroup meeting. I think the argument of
> "GeoIP as a threat to democracy" [3] provides an example rhetoric
> illustrating why concern for this is so important and why perhaps a
> witch hunt within the IETF is in order.
> 
> 1. 
> http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2013/07/appeal-morfin-2013-07-08.pdf
>
>  2. 
> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce/current/msg11697.html
>
> 
3.
> https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2014-July/005037.html
> 
> On 23/10/2014 20:30, odinn wrote:
>> As a (hopefully final) note to this particular issue, please
>> note the resolution at:
> 
>> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25839#c64
> 
>> The NSA co-chair is resigning, and it appears the Working Groups 
>> are moving ahead without the involvement of that co-chair, for 
>> example:
> 
>> (see comments 61 and 62 at)
> 
>> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25618#c61
> 
>> Cheers,
> 
> 
>> -Odinn
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