Harvard and MIT Students Launch ‘NSA-Proof’ Email Service | Betabeat

Juan juan.g71 at gmail.com
Tue May 20 12:16:07 PDT 2014


On Tue, 20 May 2014 06:49:26 -0700
Lance Cottrell <loki at obscura.com> wrote:

> Just read the “Threat Model” section of the website. They are working
> to prevent mass surveillance, 



	Really? But they are going to collect 'metadata' about all
	their users, no? 




> not to stop targeted nation state level
> attacks against individual users.
> 
> 	-Lance
> 
> --
> Lance Cottrell
> loki at obscura.com
> 
> 
> 
> On May 19, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Александр <afalex169 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > http://betabeat.com/2014/05/harvard-and-mit-students-launch-nsa-proof-email-service/
> > 
> > well, it
> > seems too good to be truth.
> > Recently we"ve got a lot of projects like that.
> > 
> > Yes, there are enthusiasts.
> > A real good ones.
> > But we should also ask ourselves,
> > (except what tpb-crypto mentiond), who these guys are? Could they
> > be a project of... the NSA itself? Yes.
> > 
> > I read their security section. The first thing in my mind (i am not
> > tooooo paranoid:)) is that it is too good. It is absolutely free
> > WITHOUT any mention of donations. Not even a mention. Who supports
> > them? Can we trust him/it? Are they millionaires:)?
> > We see not even one word about the money.
> > Second of all, when you read their
> > security section, its like a honey for bees - it invites you. Its
> > ideal. Too much ideal. So yes, i rely on my feelings too, and there
> > is something wrong with that.
> > 
> > These guys are from Germany:
> > https://lavaboom.com/en/beta.html
> > It seems to me a better choice (except the problem of the fact that
> > Germany has got its nsa=bnd and that they give everything to nsa)
> > 
> > In the end, we need to trust someone. But we dont read their
> > minds:). And it could be, after all, a big fall.
> > 
> > We"ve got pgp. Thanks God.
> > But a 100% reliable and bulletproof email provider?
> > No.
> 





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