Re: Harvard and MIT Students Launch ‘NSA-Proof’ Email Service | Betabeat
Lance Cottrell
loki at obscura.com
Tue May 20 12:34:59 PDT 2014
It looks like they would be in a position to do so if they wanted.
-Lance
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Lance Cottrell
loki at obscura.com
On May 20, 2014, at 12:16 PM, Juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 May 2014 06:49:26 -0700
> Lance Cottrell <loki at obscura.com> wrote:
>
>> Just read the “Threat Model” section of the website. They are working
>> to prevent mass surveillance,
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> Really? But they are going to collect 'metadata' about all
> their users, no?
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>> not to stop targeted nation state level
>> attacks against individual users.
>>
>> -Lance
>>
>> --
>> Lance Cottrell
>> loki at obscura.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 19, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Александр <afalex169 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> http://betabeat.com/2014/05/harvard-and-mit-students-launch-nsa-proof-email-service/
>>>
>>> well, it
>>> seems too good to be truth.
>>> Recently we"ve got a lot of projects like that.
>>>
>>> Yes, there are enthusiasts.
>>> A real good ones.
>>> But we should also ask ourselves,
>>> (except what tpb-crypto mentiond), who these guys are? Could they
>>> be a project of... the NSA itself? Yes.
>>>
>>> I read their security section. The first thing in my mind (i am not
>>> tooooo paranoid:)) is that it is too good. It is absolutely free
>>> WITHOUT any mention of donations. Not even a mention. Who supports
>>> them? Can we trust him/it? Are they millionaires:)?
>>> We see not even one word about the money.
>>> Second of all, when you read their
>>> security section, its like a honey for bees - it invites you. Its
>>> ideal. Too much ideal. So yes, i rely on my feelings too, and there
>>> is something wrong with that.
>>>
>>> These guys are from Germany:
>>> https://lavaboom.com/en/beta.html
>>> It seems to me a better choice (except the problem of the fact that
>>> Germany has got its nsa=bnd and that they give everything to nsa)
>>>
>>> In the end, we need to trust someone. But we dont read their
>>> minds:). And it could be, after all, a big fall.
>>>
>>> We"ve got pgp. Thanks God.
>>> But a 100% reliable and bulletproof email provider?
>>> No.
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