Cypher cypher at cpunk.us
Thu Mar 13 11:50:42 PDT 2014

On 03/13/2014 05:00 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 08:39:40PM -0700, coderman wrote:
>> so they've been spending tens of millions every year to red team 
>> privacy enhancing technologies.
>> when do we get to see the results and improve our tools?
>> ;)
>> https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/03/12/nsa-plans-infect-millions-computers-malware/
> Above is a declaration of war. Here's a modest counterproposal.
> What do intelligence services fear most? Like cockroaches, they
> hate the light. Public scrutiny is their permethrin.
> So what we need is a hidden service (Tahoe LAFS as distributed 
> storage backend run by many volunteers world-wide) where annotated
>  collection of personal information can be crowdsourced. You can 
> start collecting license plates and match them to addresses and 
> photos.
> Let's doxx the spooks. All intelligence services, all countries. 
> Make sure to vet data against malicious contamination. Publish them
> all, and let God sort them out.

I don't think this goes far enough at all. They won't care if their
information is out there. Similar actions by Anonymous have shown
that. They use it as a base for even more propaganda to the people as
to why this type of pervasive survelliance is needed.

What we /need/, IMHO, is infiltration. Straight out infiltration. We
need to operate just like we would in any regular battle: we need good
people to find jobs within the various agencies that provide them
sufficiently high level access so that they can leak information to
the public. You want to scare them? Take away the security of them
trusting /anybody/. Let them vet people out the ass with their useless
polygraphs and psychological testing procedures. People dedicated to
exposing their evil will pass them, get jobs, and leak the hell out of
their information.


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