TURBINE

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Thu Mar 13 09:35:42 PDT 2014


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:53:50AM -0400, Robert Hettinga wrote:
> 
> On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
> 
> > Let's doxx the spooks.
> 
> Somewhere, Jim Bell is laughing. Maybe even hereā€¦

Actually, we demonstrably have a case of collusion among rogue 
intelligence services of several countries for the purpose
of undermining the democratic order and the constitution of
said countries, which is high treason, if you care about such
trifles. If nobody else is taking measures (official stonewalling 
is slowly getting there, making such individuals actually 
potentially complicit in high treason) GG Art 20 (arguably, 
also Art 32 StGB) applies and taking countermeasures by individual 
citizens is lawful. Always IANAL, of course.

So if the state is not taking measures against surveillance
gear on US embassies or unlawful data collection by foreign
intelligence agencies, individuals are by law allowed to.

See e.g. https://lqfb.piratenpartei.de/lf/initiative/show/6555.html
https://lqfb.piratenpartei.de/lf/suggestion/show/12807.html
http://www.golem.de/news/spionage-hilft-nur-noch-notwehr-gegen-die-nsa-1401-104106.html
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/geheimer-krieg-us-beamte-ueberpruefen-reisende-in-deutschland-1.1820764
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/geheimer-krieg-us-beamte-ueberpruefen-reisende-in-deutschland-1.1820764-2

Doxxing foreign (of course, everybody is a foreigner, somewhere) 
intelligence and special services appears a rather mild measure, 
under the circumstances.



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