[tor-talk] EFF / applied law mailing list?

Cari Machet carimachet at gmail.com
Sat Jul 26 11:16:39 PDT 2014


i would be interested to collaborate on making one


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net> wrote:

> On 7/26/14, grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is there such thing as an applied law / best practices
> > mailing list in the digital field... perhaps suited to
> > service providers, but also covering users, and meta-orgs
> > of digital/privacy/activism/rights, etc? And perhaps where
> > real lawyers might actually participate in discussion.
>
>
> There was Groklaw, but that is no more.
>
> I have presumed in the past that certain "groundwork" work might be
> useful for those involved in cases.
>
> However, pre-emptive action is difficult due to the number of
> jurisdictions. Groklaw built on the SCO case, which was a) widely
> reported, b) struck at the heart of the free/libre software world, c)
> involved big budged companies, d) continued for a very long time.
>
> A very valuable literary-legal resource was created by that effort
> (other cases were covered to some degrees).
>
> I would discourage self-represented defence in cases surrounding
> Tor/I2P etc, due to the potential significance of adverse consequences
> to the broader *globabl* free-speech network communities!
>
> Self-represented may be ok in conjunction with support from
> pro-liberty lawyers. This might be quite jurisdiction-sensitive, I
> don't know.
>
> But first and foremost, we have a duty of care to each other in this
> freedom-speech community, to not hide such cases from those who would
> be able to support, due to the potential community chilling effects.
>
> SO, such a list might be a very useful thing to set up, so that those
> who might "valantly" charge ahead in a case self-representing, might
> receive the support and the cautions from supportive lawyers regarding
> all possible approaches, etc, etc.
>
> Regards
> Zenaan
>



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