Snowden triggers flood of Crapware [was: Gruveo, more secure skype?]

rysiek rysiek at hackerspace.pl
Wed Jul 23 15:09:59 PDT 2014


Dnia środa, 23 lipca 2014 17:24:22 grarpamp pisze:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Cypher <cypher at cpunk.us> wrote:
> > On 2014-07-22 23:24, unixninja92 wrote:
> >> Recently found Gruveo[1]. Allows easy video and audio calls similar to
> >> cryptocat. Unfortunately not open source and makes no mention of being
> >> audited. Otherwise looks very interesting and promising. It tries to
> >> use P2P to make calls, and if it fails, then it will go through their
> >> servers. Uses WebRTC for end to end encrypted audio and video chat.
> >> They claim they don't keep any logs that could identify users.
> >> 
> >> So the question is, is this an NSA honey pot or something that might
> >> actually be trustworthy? It seems at least a bit more
> >> secure/trustworthy than skype to me.
> > 
> > Why even consider closed alternatives when you have things like Jitsi[1]
> > available? It's open source, does secure voice, video, and text, and runs
> > on just about any platform (including Android).
> > 
> > [1] www.jitsi.org
> > 
> > Eugen says...
> > RetroShare has quite good P2P audio. It's not properly audited though,
> > caveat emptor.
> 
> Ditto. Though it will take some time not just for the open source
> community to pick which projects to audit under limited resources,
> but to even develop a real auditing framework within itself to do that
> under. It's a huge undertaking and responsibility in its own right.
> 
> Further, what's with crap like gruveo.com, goldbug.sf.net [1],
> protonmail.ch, and so many more (especially the 'Look, we just solved Email
> encryption' crowd)? And of the partly open hw/sw stack vendor types like
> BlackPhone?

Here, have a chuckle:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/icloak/icloak-tm-stik-easy-powerful-online-privacy-for-yo

Hat-tip to all the TAILS/Tor people here.

-- 
Pozdr
rysiek
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