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J.A. Terranson measl at mfn.org
Mon Jan 20 18:17:19 PST 2014


On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Philip Shaw wrote:

> On 20 Jan 2014, at 21:38 , Cari Machet <carimachet at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > FYI now they make laws that are retroactive to indict - i know of a 
> > case (or 5 actually) where the law was made to indict and convict 2 
> > years after the "crime" yup ppl went to fed prison for years ... seems 
> > the breech of the rule of law by the US has come more out of the 
> > shadows
> 
> Do you have a citation for those cases? I?m not doubting you, but the 
> legal sophistry to argue that an ex post facto law was constitutional 
> despite the explicit prohibition would be interesting. I?ve heard of 
> cases where higher penalties were applied than existed at the time 
> (which IIRC is banned by the ECHR and possibly the CCPR, although is 
> allowed in the USA and elsewhere), or where statutes of limitations were 
> extended, but a blatant ex post facto law seems surprising.

Telecom/NSA/*retroactive immunity* ring a bell? 


//Alif

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