Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc.
manning bill
bmanning at isi.edu
Tue Jan 14 12:03:36 PST 2014
decentralization is (imho) a very poor characterization - what is wanted is target diffusion. in California-speak,
“It’s all about me!”
I could care less if my access to AT&T, Twitter, etc. are broken, I DON’T use them - I do have some folks hanging off
AT&T that I do care about so access to them is important.
To borrow from the subject line - there are -millions- of Captains
/bill
Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet.
On 14January2014Tuesday, at 11:48, rysiek <rysiek at hackerspace.pl> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Dnia wtorek, 14 stycznia 2014 11:28:08 Odinn Cyberguerrilla pisze:
>> (...)
>> But how often do you hear people talking about what is needed to literally
>> Decentralize Everything?
>>
>> Well, except for posts occasionally on lists like these, or meetings /
>> discussions with like-minded people, or hackerspaces, or development
>> discussions, the answer is Almost Never.
>
> Yes, because people do not understand why it is important. And it is not
> limited to the (let's call it) "digital domain", look what's happening in
> retail. Just try *not* buying Unilever, for example...
>
>> Anyway, this recent ruling announcement re. net neutrality (or its death)
>> here in the USA is just one more example of how we cannot rely upon laws,
>> at least in my view. But it also made me think some more about this and
>> realize that if we want decentralized protocols / solutions to spread at
>> all, we have to do a way better job at being good advocates for them and
>> talking about them incessantly to everyone in a way that is easy, simple,
>> and makes sense to people.
>
> We need more than that. We need to understand -- yes, us, the tech community
> -- that for people to use decentralised services, these services must,
> absolutely must!, be compatible and interoperable.
>
> Case in point: you can talk till you're blue in the mouth about federated
> social web, but even once you get a person convinced to ditch Facebook for it,
> you get The Question -- "So, which one should I use? Diaspora? Friendica?
> StatusNet? Pump.io?"
>
> The proper answer, the answer we *have to* be able to give, is:
> "use any of these, they talk to each other".
>
> This is, sadly, not the case. The Not Invented Here syndrome is killing us.
> Look at what moving identi.ca from StatusNet to pump.io did to the federated
> microblogging community...
>
>> As this post already exhibits I can be very wordy and windbaggish.
>> Further evidence of that fact is presented amply in my recent post here:
>> https://odinn.cyberguerrilla.org/index.php/2014/01/02/opensourcebuildguide/
>>
>> As I reflect on this I think about the following.
>>
>> 1) I need to make something shorter that easily introduces people to open
>> source stuff. Something that's even simpler than prism-break
>> (http://prism-break.org/) - an option which is so simple that anyone (at
>> least in primary school levels) can understand it and act on things
>> presented in it within less than a minute. Look. Software. Click (one
>> click, two max!) to get it. Done.
>>
>> 2) What are some ways to Decentralize Everything? To the DNS and beyond?
>> Stuff that comes to mind (remember, there is no one thing, there are no
>> captains, there is no one solution, these are just examples of possible
>> partial solutions being thrown out here):
>> 2)a. https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/
>> 2)b. https://github.com/namecoin
>> 2)c. https://nameid.org/
>> 2)d. concepts like this
>> http://torrentfreak.com/how-the-pirate-bay-plans-to-beat-censorship-for-good
>> -140105/ 2)e. Convergence for namecoin
>> https://github.com/JeremyRand/Convergence/tree/namecoin
>> 2)f. Convergence (a different one) https://github.com/moxie0/Convergence
>> 2)g. Tack.io - for pinning (it's my understading that moxie0 prefers
>> this direction, but I haven't been tracking it closely enough to say
>> what is going on with it right now) --> http://tack.io/
>> 2)g.1. See also the Tack internet draft(!) at http://tack.io/draft.html
>> 2)g.2. See also reference TACK implementations https://github.com/tack
>>
>> So...
>>
>> As I read through this, and similar stuff, I think to myself, something
>> about this needs to be broadcast in a way that it is so easy to do, so
>> simple to accept, that it meets the "everybody sees it (or it's in the
>> news) and they click and download it"
>>
>> I know it's never really that simple. But I am throwing this out there
>> because even more censorship is coming. And there are no captains, and we
>> do need to decentralize everything. We must get A Lot more people on board
>> with decentralization, open source, and as close to p2p as possible, we
>> need to make it so easy to defeat censorship of anything that those who
>> propose allowing it to happen will just throw up their hands in
>> frustration. So the question (one of many!) is how to present this in a
>> way that makes sense to a lot of people.
>>
>> A lot more than currently.
>>
>> OK I am done for now.
>>
>> your thoughts please
>
> Consider one idea for getting people to use decentralised social networks
> instead of failbook:
> http://rys.io/en/88
>
> --
> Pozdr
> rysiek
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