Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

Cari Machet carimachet at gmail.com
Tue Jan 7 11:09:09 PST 2014


hmmn i see it as a hack and his other work was similar

he was breaking the user agreement as worded by lawyer types > isnt that a hack?

plus they were all scuuurrred he was going to leak the docs he
downloaded so.... thats kind of a hack

it was presumed becasue of past predictors of behavior that he would
negotiate with JSTOR to change there ways which is umn
super-neoliberal-capitalistic

is stealing a hack? - i think in general that the term hacking has
expanded - i think he was hacking the system >>> maybe we disagree on
the words expansion ???

heres some wordy words mayb u wld like to read re aarons work with others

https://public.resource.org/crime

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hope it is very cold in poland and you are incredibly unhappy > berlin is nice

On 1/7/14, rysiek <rysiek at hackerspace.pl> wrote:
> Dnia wtorek, 7 stycznia 2014 19:36:44 Cari Machet pisze:
>> umn i just met u at #30c3 i know who u r so... aaahhh memories...
>> names .... ppl... buses ... berlin...  i was making a little joke and
>> calling u poland sorry i happen to love poland generally so i like to
>> talk about it i guess
>
> AAAAHH! Now I got all the puzzles in my view. OHAI, CARI. :)
> /me facepalms hard/
>
>> how do you conclude that aaron was not "hacking" PLEASE EXPLAIN ???????
>
> Well... There are two ways the word "hacking" is used most often.
> 1. breaking into computer systems and generally doing some computery-evil
>    stuff
> 2. doing some amazing technical things
>
> So, what Aaron did was in no way fitting the 2., right? He just put a laptop
>
> in a closet and downloaded stuff.
>
> Neither does it fit 1. -- he did not break any kind of security systems,
> cracked passwords, etc., he just put a laptop on a network that had access
> to
> these documents and downloaded the documents. That's all.
>
>
> On a different level, it was indeed consistent with hacker ethos, esp.
> "information wants to be free". But that doesn't mean it was a "hack", in
> any
> meaning of the word.
>
> Also, inb4 "hacker means X - no, it means Y" shitstorm
>
> --
> Pozdr
> rysiek


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