Bitter young men! Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

gwen hastings gwen at cypherpunks.to
Tue Jan 7 07:55:03 PST 2014


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Hmmm cypherpunks write code patrick.. ??


James has actually contributed more(code) than simply hot air and
criticism. And continues to contribute in ways you cant even begin to
perceive simply by continuing to show up.....

Doesn't matter what age he is.. racist maybe.. doesn't matter(I am
melungeon myself and tolerate purebloods and racists well..they ALL like
to have sex and within a very few generation pure bloods WONT exist )


And TC May loves to spoof the gullible and journalists(hmm equivalent?)



     gh - who was the person standing behind the photog at the wired
cypherpunk cover photo shoot.

ps what the fuck have you or Carl contributed youngster?

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On 1/7/14 7:37 AM, Patrick Mylund Nielsen wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Adam Back <adam at cypherspace.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dont worry about James hyperbole, he's just channeling Tim May who was one
>>> of the three or four list co-founders, wrote the cyphernomicon [1], and
>>> had
>>> a habit of using that phrase 'needed killing' now and then, as I recall as
>>> phrase to express his distaste for someone's actions.  Its an expression,
>>> not something literal... but James' black & white, non-PC, absolutist
>>> personality precludes him saying that :)  You just have to read it with a
>>> USENET flame war mentality and parse for what he's actually saying.
>>>
>>> Apart from the refusal to bow to PC, James is actually a pretty smart guy
>>> from what I recall.  He implemented some simplifed UX, ECC crypto email
>>> stuff called 'crypto kong' [2] way back in 1997.
>>>
>>> Cypherpunks write code & all that, gives James some brownie points.
>>
>>
> History is littered with people who did remarkable things only to abuse the
> trust people placed in them to do horrible things. Writing some cool ECC
> crypto code does not preclude you from criticism when you show yourself to
> be someone who fantasizes about killing people. (Just look at all the
> creative ways he killed off people in the last thread! There was way too
> much imagination involved to be channeling anyone.)
> 
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Cari Machet <carimachet at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks - yes I know who may is and I understand the libertarian head space
>> - as a fucking American citizen of native American descent I often find it
>> at best 'racist' - I disagree with The laziness it's thought patterns
>> propagate ... More later on ur packed analysis
>>
> 
> James already proved himself a racist earlier in the discussion when he
> mentioned that he could only find "a number of black felons who should have
> been killed off long ago" while googling a person's name. "Black" was, of
> course, completely irrelevant, but he nevertheless found it important to
> add.
> 
> If you're puzzled as to why he acts this way, his website might shine a
> little light on the issue: http://jim.com/.
> 
> Clearly, the best solution is to ignore him. But let's not try to excuse
> what could best be described as the musings of a bitter old man because he
> wrote some code a decade ago.
> 


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