New end to end encrypted IM/VOIP web app focused on ease of use

rysiek rysiek at
Wed Aug 20 06:59:38 PDT 2014

Dnia wtorek, 19 sierpnia 2014 20:20:17 piszesz:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:35:18PM +0200, rysiek wrote:
> > Well,
> > 
> > not trying to be a wet blanket, but why use Subrosa, when RetroShare does
> > almost all of that (sans group video conferences), and does not require a
> > single server, at all?
> > 
> > If RS was able to get crypto right and in a completely decentralised
> > manner, why go back to client-server architecture, with all it's
> > potential single points of failure?
> Deployment. Since there is no AGPLv3 hardware that contains all the tools
> required to design (and validate no trojan circuits), we might as well just
> use client-server from groups that we have some confidence in their motives,
> or at least that write good code.

So you either have a situation in which you use free software secure 
communication project on unverified hardware, or a situation in which you use 
a free software secure communication project with potential single points of 
failure, and on unverified hardware.

Both situations are not great, but one is a bit less bad. Can you spot, which? 

> How do I get Retroshare on my phone? (okay, bad question, because Qualcomm
> has my keys), but if I want my friends to use it, It needs to work on
> android/ios/etc.

The same way you get Subrosa on any client right now: write a mobile client 
for it. Instead of writing a new client-server architecture (which *should* be 
considered obsolete by now, IMVHO) tool, why not expand upon the completely 
decentralised projects?

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