Update your Tors - Tor security advisory: "relay early" traffic confirmation attack

Juan juan.g71 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 5 16:31:26 PDT 2014

On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 00:19:17 +0200
rysiek <rysiek at hackerspace.pl> wrote:

> One of the things I have learnt during the years of my brushing
> shoulders with Teh Gummint (public consultations, conferences, etc)
> is that a huge bureaucracy like a government is bound to have
> conflicting interests and fund/take conflicting actions.
> Governments are not homogeneous, to say the least.

	Governments are pretty homoneneous criminal organizations. The
	fact that sometimes different government factions within a
	given government quarrel a bit over the spoils is basically
	meaningless, from the point of view of government victims at

	In the case of tor - employees of the american nazi military, it
	should be pretty obvious that they are aligned with american
	nazi policies, despite their hypocritical alleged support for
	'free speech'. 

	By the way, if the american nazi government had to fund
	something like tor, what would be the best approach? 

	Two options : One, try to do it secretly. Problem is, it's
	difficult and sooner or later (sooner) people would find out
	and the project reputation would rightfully suffer. 

	So what to do? Well, hide in plain sight! Get the money openly
	from the government and brag about how 'transparent' the scam
	is!! Clever.

> So I can see how a government can fund a tool that is useful for one
> of the departments or agencies, and which at the same time is
> detrimental to actions of some other department or agency.

	As mentioned ad nauseam tor is 'useful'  for the 'intelligence'

> There's no Huge Plan Or Conspiracy behind it. Just Hanlon's razor, if 
> anything.

	bla bla bla 

	Name calling! You are a witch! You are a conspiracy theorist!!
	You hate AMERIKKKAAA!!!!

	Absolutely none of the government actions are secret.
	Especially things done by the most brutal faction, the
	military. Anything the military do is public, published in
	www.nazis.org and for the common good!!!

> > Draw your own conclusions based on a weighting of (ability of
> > individuals to hide traffic from the state) / (ability of the state
> > to obfuscate intelligence traffic) and taking into consideration
> > how much smaller the threat model is for a state apparatus with
> > known trusted servers and alternative traffic routes through
> > compromised botnets and embassies around the world.
> Yup.
> > Me, I'm more hopeful for i2p; it's just a pity that it's so oddly
> > put together right now.
> Care to elaborate on the "oddly put together" part?

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