NSA good guys

tpb-crypto at laposte.net tpb-crypto at laposte.net
Wed Apr 16 12:10:31 PDT 2014



> Message du 16/04/14 15:01
> De : "Lodewijk andré de la porte" 
> A : tpb-crypto at laposte.net
> Copie à : "Gregory Foster" , "cypherpunks at cpunks.org" 
> Objet : Re: NSA good guys
>

> 2014-04-16 12:16 GMT+02:00 :
> 
> > > Message du 16/04/14 10:16
> > > De : "Gregory Foster"
> > > On 4/15/14, 11:40 PM, tpb-crypto at laposte.net wrote:
> > > > Companies cannot seize your property, put you in jail and queue you
> > > > to the death row.
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi
> > >
> > > > The company received widespread publicity in 2007 when a group of
> > > > its employees shot at Iraqi civilians killing 17 and injuring 20 in
> > > > Nisour Square, Baghdad. ... Blackwater was also hired during the
> > > > aftermath of Hurricane Katrina by the United States Department of
> > > > Homeland Security, as well as by private clients, including
> > > > communications, petrochemical and insurance companies.
> > >
> >
> > Ok, the exception that confirms the rule, that was a company hired by the
> > government to do its dirty job, ie, mercenaries.
> >
> > Until google, facebook, comcast, DHL, GM, Boeing, ... don't hire such
> > services or do it themselves, they continue to be a lesser threat to the
> > people than government is. Legally, none of them can do what you quoted
> > above.
> 
> 
> And neither can persons!
> 
> Government having a violence monopoly is EXACTLY the idea! And one I
> wholeheartedly wish would be 100% effective and fair! Actually if the
> government would just TAKE all the violence and write it to /dev/null
> that's be PERFECT for me. Then we can start struggling with less demons
> such as abuse of power and wealth.
> 
> Doesn't it just disgust you to think that anyone could be used sexually in
> whatever means, provided sufficient money compensates someone for it? What
> kind of violence is it that someone can provide something so compelling
> that he/she would do anything to get it? Think of how that used person
> convinces him/herself to do something completely unnatural, so disgusting
> it makes one retch, sheerly for an imaginary compensation.
> 
> I wonder how well that situation is actually the situation for many
> prostitutes in present day.
> 
> Is this even related? Oh yes, the NSA. Well. Seems this has become a thread
> about unnatural and utterly disgusting things.
> 

Well, we were talking about the dangers of companies vs. danger of governments.

Before a girl turns into a prostitute, with the exception of countries like Haiti and Democratic Republic of Congo, she can try and do other things rather than sell her body. Even in the third world, there's plenty of shopping centers, laundry and cleaning works they can try.

It pays less, but it also doesn't violate anyone's bodies. Most prostitutes had a choice at least once.




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