How we get there Re: Geoff Stone, Obama's Review Group

[Cari Machet]

i do need to read it but at face value - or what u pulled out - consensus
is not a problem regarding time wasting - as the ideas of efficiency are
capitalistic and massively overblown + often what seems efficient is just
short term problem solving - leaving huge gaps for people to have to deal
with later - the big problem with consensus is mob rule - just like the
problem we have with supposed democracy in the representative manner
prolific now


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Douglas Lucas <dal at riseup.net> wrote:

> The book Binding Chaos by Heather Marsh, who ran WikiLeaks Central from
> 2010 to 2012, describes a system for governance using the Internet as a
> mass collaboration tool. Free, full text PDFs available from the landing
> page: http://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2013/05/24/binding-chaos/
>
> The book describes using stigmergy for work, rather than time-wasting
> consensus or coercive hierarchy, approval economy instead of a financial
> system, control by user groups rather than democracy, and more.
>
> Douglas
>
> On 04/04/2014 03:25 PM, Cypher wrote:
> > On 04/04/2014 09:24 AM, Patrick Chkoreff wrote:
> >> Cypher wrote, On 04/03/2014 05:22 PM:
> >
> >>> But, please, instead of ranting and wild arm-waving, educate me
> >>> if I am wrong. I would certainly /love/ to see a workable, large
> >>> scale, anarchistic plan.
> >
> >> Please, no large scale plans, I beg you.  I simply wish to see the
> >> emergent effects of countless individuals interacting with each
> >> other solely on the basis of mutual consent.  That is all.
> >
> > Good response, Patrick. But how do you think we're going to get to
> > that? Without concerted action, and it has to be more than everybody
> > doing their own thing IMHO, how will that goal be achieved? I hear a
> > lot of anarchists saying what you say and it's a fantastic goal. But
> > how do we get there?
> >
> >
>



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