Geoff Stone, Obama's Review Group

Thu Apr 3 13:49:40 PDT 2014

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Cypher <cypher at cpunk.us> wrote:

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> On 04/03/2014 02:48 PM, Cari Machet wrote:
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> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:34 PM, <tpb-crypto at laposte.net
> > <mailto:tpb-crypto at laposte.net>> wrote:
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> >> Message du 03/04/14 16:54 De : "Cari Machet"
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> >>> Not that journalists should be expected to make a lasting
> >>> difference.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> WTF?
> >>
> >> this shit was posted on huffington post probably for those
> >> without ad blocker there was ad with bewbs on it next to the
> >> text
> >>
> >> one more thing why do you assume to know the minds of the people
> > that own
> >> the snowden data - they are capitalists - that is all
> >>
> >
> > Do capitalists upset you?
> >
> >
> > CAPITALISTS have no concept of reality and are completely self
> > serving yes that is upsetting to my sensibilities and
> > consciousness
>
> Which is *precisely* why I would trust information provided to me by a
> capitalist than that provided to me by an idealist.

i am a fucking anarchist which by the words you use in your writing that
point to your low level concepts - you probably have no clue about

you are a capitalist - making frames for others to fit your fucking lame
ass argument - pathetic

> A capitalist sees
> everything as a product that will either further his desire for
> success or hinder it. An idealist sees everything as a mission fitting
> within their narrow agenda. A capitalist has much more incentive to
> provide a good product (correct, accurate, information) than an
> idealist who's sole goal is to further an agenda. Both have their uses
> though and both can be manipulated to good and bad ends.
>

an anarchist DOES NOT generally have one goal - capitalists think that way
anarchists are node based thinkers capitalist are monolithic thinkers and
often frame things in a dualistic or black and white manner which is very
christian religion in form and thought pattern

capitalism is an economic model that has severe ramifications for society
it is no different than having a monarch really there is a degree of
difference regarding poverty but ... i heard today that if you are dying of
cancer in uganda you have a 10% chance of having access to morphine ...
they give cancer patients paracetamol ... thats your great capitalism i
find it disgusting

> > the careerist journalists laura poitras et al are capitalistic in
> > every way - exploitive
>
> I disagree. The careerist journalists are "crony capitalists" in every
> way.

listen i am an activist journalist making money / becoming famous like them
off of journalism in the way they do it  is not ok with me its not how i
would ever in a million years do my work

> They know that, regardless of the accuracy of their information,
> the 'other side of the coin' will smooth things over and keep the
> public hooked on an inferior product. That's not a true capitalist.
>
>
i think your an idealist actually 'true capitalism' thats a theory

> That's one of my main arguments with socialists and other
> non-capitalist believers:

BELIEVERS????????? LMAO

i dont believe in belief that is religious

> they point to our current system and say
> 'see, it's exploitive and hurts people!' and it does. But that's not a
> true capitalist system. Will we ever actually have one? Doubtful. But
> what we have now is definitely not a good example.
>

i dont think you understand that capitalism is well beyond an economy -
watch naomi klein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka3Pb_StJn4

with capitalism the iraq invasion happened within its frame

black sites torture sites around the globe where conducted within the frame
of capitalism > gitmo 'lives' inside the frame of capitalism

i dont think you understand anarchy or anarchistic thought processies at all

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> Cypher
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