Spy Files: New WikiLeaks docs expose secretive, unruly surveillance industry

Dan White dwhite at olp.net
Thu Sep 5 08:51:30 PDT 2013


On 09/05/13 10:31 -0500, Kyle Maxwell wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Dan White <dwhite at olp.net> wrote:
>> On 09/05/13 10:02 -0400, John Young wrote:
>>>
>>> Coda: Free the Snowden docs, end censoring, peddling and
>>> lying about them like spies. That's you I'm talking about
>>> WikiLeaks, Guardian, Der Spiegel, Washington Post, O Globo,
>>> New York Times, ProPublica, end your secretive commercial
>>> spy aiding.
>>
>>
>> I don't get the idea that releasing the Snowden docs in bulk and unfiltered
>> is entirely up to the media outlets listed. My guess is Snowden himself is
>> doing much of the metering. The slow, but consistent, rate of blockbuster
>> headlines is resulting in a punctuated evolutionary change in the public's
>> view of what the NSA is doing.
>
>The journalists (like Barton Gellman) working on the releases have
>specifically stated that Snowden's not doing this. According to
>Gellman[0], Snowden passed them the docs with fairly minimal
>instructions ("select for news and avoid damage"). One could certainly
>disbelieve Gellman, but there's the assertion nonetheless.

I could believe that he's not redacting information contained within
classified documents (which may raise suspicion about his motives).

There was an article posted to this list a couple of weeks back that
showed, at least in his initial contacts with journalists, that he was
being selective in what information he was providing them.



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