CryptoSeal shutters, ala: LavaBit

[Ted Smith]

...so the third party decrypts your traffic for you and sends you
plaintext?

On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 23:26 -0400, Kelly John Rose wrote:
> Crazy idea.
> 
> Put the server into the hands of a third party outside of the US. Have
> that 3rd party have total and absolute rights to the SSL root
> certificate and your party to not have any capacity to force said party
> to hand over the certificate. You use it, but you don't have any ability
> to actually get access to it directly.
> 
> Crazy idea, but I wonder if there would be some way to make this work
> where even if they tried to force you, you couldn't hand it over.
> 
> On 21/10/2013 11:09 PM, Kyle Maxwell wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Jim Bell <jamesdbell8 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>     The practice of shutting down a service in anticipation of the
> >> government showing up and issuing a warrant (whether search- or
> >> pen-register, or whatever) shows not merely a lack of guts, but also an
> >> incredible lack of imagination.  For example, I previously pointed out that
> >> there is no longer any real basis for keeping records on the metadata
> >> involved in in setting up a telephone call:
> > 
> > So how do you propose that a provider perform SSL without keeping
> > their private cert? And how should they respond when a court *orders*
> > them to allow law enforcement or other agencies to install sniffers on
> > their network? That's essentially what Lavabit faced.
> > 
> > Also: it's easy to accuse someone of lacking guts or imagination, but
> > I don't think any of these folks are shutting down services and even
> > businesses without serious consideration of the costs involved -
> > financial and otherwise.
> > 
> > --
> > @kylemaxwell
> > 
> 

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