Curious RNG stalemate [was: use of cpunks]

[Bill Stewart]

At 11:46 AM 10/18/2013, Joseph Holsten wrote:
>On 2013-10-17, at 16:56, grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Now if someone would just sell a completely open discrete logic
> > serial port hw entropy source for under $50... that would end
> > a lot of the talk.
>Open design doesn't mean it hasn't been undermined in manufacturing.
>If you didn't built it yourself, you can't be sure.

That's particularly true if you're getting cheap electronic hardware
manufactured in China.  Not because of security risks, but just because
a lot of people who've gotten cheap stuff built over there have found
that the local manufacturers often "improve" designs to make them
more manufacturable or substitute parts for stuff they've got on hand.