fuck these guys

[Luther Blissett]

On Wed, 2013-11-06 at 02:01 -0800, shelley at misanthropia.info wrote:
> Thank you for posting this, Eugen.  I would have missed this exchange.
> 
> >> "Fuck You" is nice. Service and a court date is a lot nicer.
> 
> My sentiments, exactly.  Fuck these guys, indeed.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013, at 12:56 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> > 
> > https://plus.google.com/+MikeHearn/posts/LW1DXJ2BK8k
> > 
> > Mike Hearn Shared publicly  -  Yesterday 10:30 AM #NSA
> >  
> >  
> > The packet capture shown in these new NSA slides shows internal database
> > replication traffic for the anti-hacking system I worked on for over two
> > years. Specifically, it shows a database recording a user login as part
> > of
> > this system: 
> > 
> > http://googleblog.blogspot.ch/2013/02/an-update-on-our-war-against-account.html
> > 
> > Recently  +Brandon Downey , a colleague of mine on the Google security
> > team,
> > said (after the usual disclaimers about being personal opinions and not
> > speaking for the firm which I repeat here) - "fuck these guys": 
> > 
> > https://plus.google.com/108799184931623330498/posts/SfYy8xbDWGG 
> > 
> > I now join him in issuing a giant Fuck You to the people who made these
> > slides. I am not American, I am a Brit, but it's no different - GCHQ
> > turns
> > out to be even worse than the NSA. 
> > 
> > We designed this system to keep criminals out . There's no ambiguity
> > here.
> > The warrant system with skeptical judges, paths for appeal, and rules of
> > evidence was built from centuries of hard won experience. When it works,
> > it
> > represents as good a balance as we've got between the need to restrain
> > the
> > state and the need to keep crime in check. Bypassing that system is
> > illegal
> > for a good reason . 
> > 
> > Unfortunately we live in a world where all too often, laws are for the
> > little
> > people. Nobody at GCHQ or the NSA will ever stand before a judge and
> > answer
> > for this industrial-scale subversion of the judicial process. In the
> > absence
> > of working law enforcement,  we therefore do what internet engineers have
> > always done - build more secure software. The traffic shown in the slides
> > below is now all encrypted and the work the NSA/GCHQ staff did on
> > understanding it, ruined. 
> > 
> > Thank you Edward Snowden. For me personally, this is the most interesting
> > revelation all summer.
> > 
> > How we know the NSA had access to internal Google and Yahoo cloud data
> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/11/04/how-we-know-the-nsa-had-access-to-internal-google-and-yahoo-cloud-data/
> 
> [snip]

Fuck'em n leave a note or millions of them.
#snowdenstyle