request for transcript: Bruce Schneier and Eben Moglen discuss a post-Snowden Internet

[Juan Garofalo]

--On Monday, December 16, 2013 1:17 AM -0200 APX 808 <apx.808 at gmail.com>
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>> From "Traffic correlation" attacks to "NSA being able to break Tor" there
> is a long way.
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	Oh really? Traffic correlation is what tells you who is who, so yes, it's
the same as breaking tor. 

	If you mean, stuff encrypted by tor using standard crypto can't be read,
well, maybe that is true. But is not the point.

	
	Also, given the fact that the american nazi government has influenced and
bribed virtually everybody in the 'security' 'community', isn't it an
obvious educated guess that Tor, which is directly funded by the american
nazi governemnt is, let's say, not so trustable? 

	








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> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Juan Garofalo <juan.g71 at gmail.com>
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>> --On Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:01 PM -0800 Al Billings
>> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
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>> > From: Juan Garofalo juan.g71 at gmail.com
>> >> > Ha? tor developers admit that the nsa can break tor but schneider
>> >> says
>> >> otherwise?
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>> >> plus, schneier, greenwald and partners don't seem to have too
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>> >> credibility at this point
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>> > So you think you know more than Schneier? Do tell.
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>>         seems to be 'public' knowledge eh
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>>         cryptome.org/2013/08/tor-users-routed.pdf
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>> > Al Billings
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