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[Jim Bell]

From: Sean Lynch <seanl at literati.org>


> My fiber optic invention has a certain relevance here. A typical
> modern germania-doped-core (GeO2) silica optical fiber has a loss of
> about 0.19 decibels/kilometer (db/km).  Over 50 km, the loss is (50
> km x 0.19 db/km) = 9.5 db, ignoring splice losses.  (A good splice
> has a loss of about 0.10 db.)  So, the quote above is indicating that
> above a loss of about 10 db, a quantum system is hard to maintain.  I
> have suggested in my patent application that isotope-modified fiber
> (where the Si-29 level is brought from nature's 4.67% (atom/atom) to
> 0.10 %, the loss might decrease by a factor of 10 to 20.  This means
> that the ultimate distance limit might increase to 50 x 10 = 500 km,
> to 50 x 20 = 1000 km.  That would be a major improvement if it works.
> The reason that this new fiber would be necessary is this:  Ever
> since the invention of the EDFA (Erbium-doped fiber amplifier  http:/
> /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_amplifier  ) in 1986, it has been used
> to amplify IR signals in the 1510-1560 nanometer band.  Using it and
> ordinary signals (not quantum signals) it is possible to go about 125
> kilometers between amplifiers.  (In other words, that usage tolerates
> about 25 db of optical loss before an EDFA is necessary.)  However,
> apparently an EDFA cannot be used to amplify a quantum system.  http:
> //www.nict.go.jp/en/press/2010/02/08-1.html     Or, at least, not
> directly.


>While reducing loss will certainly help, the NICT paper you link to will
>not. Quantum cryptography relies on only having a single entangled
>particle going to each end, so that if anyone intercepts either particle
>and attempts to measure whatever property you're using to derive the key
>(polarization generally), the keys will not match because the quantum
>state will be destroyed.

>The paper you link to talks about creating large numbers of entangled
>particles. While this is useful for sharing quantum computations over
>long distances, it is not at all useful for quantum cryptography,
>because one could intercept a small number of these particles, measure
>them on each of the possible axes used for the cryptosystem, and figure
>out the shared key.

Okay, thank you for clarifying this matter.  I merely Google-searched for  'EDFA quantum entanglement' and found and cited this paper, and that only because it referred to the problem of trying to amplify quantum signals through an EDFA.  
Myself, I am hoping that longer-key public-key cryptosystems will remain unsolved by quantum techniques, at least as long as it takes to get rid of governments.  After that, it probably won't matter.  As of now, it looks like things will go the way I'd like.
        Jim Bell
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