Android IMSI Catcher detection

[coderman]

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:07 PM,  <dan at geer.org> wrote:
> ... is the kind
> of remote penetration of potential enemies by technical means, such
> as coderman postulated at length, closer to politics or closer to
> war?  Or, in current argot, is it closer to cyberpolitics or closer
> to cyberwar?


CNE+TAO as non destructive espionage (politics)
  but they also play
CNE+TAO as kinetic force multiplier (war)


so the answer is: both!  depending on the target...