[cryptography] a Cypherpunks comeback

[alex wright]

Accept anyone's right to say (or register) as they please but reserve
the right to think it's dumb.

On 8/7/13, coderman <coderman at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Adam Back <adam at cypherspace.org> wrote:
>> ... which would you rather fight: defense of spurious
>> attention arising from a stupid domain name, or I dunno operating a
>> remailer, a tor exit node, a hidden tor server.
>
> why the false dichotomy? do them both!
>
>
>> ...  If he
>> was prominently using al-qaeda.net you can be sure they'd have spun that
>> into the story.
>
> i also hear he was also a ginger lacking a soul...
>
>
>
>> There is some history also - recall Jim Bell, he got in some fight over
>> taxes or something stupid,... it
>> was a political discussion which he thought had some merit vs a losers
>> game
>> of tax protestation ending in jail time, anyone can see thats never going
>> to
>> work out.
>
> are you stating that "So, say goodnight to Joshua ..." in the context
> of a perceived threat against an individuals family is on the same
> level of offense as a domain name? really?
>
>
>
>> I wouldnt be so sure that using stupid domain names is entirely safe in
>> the
>> US, europe etc.  IMO the US is past its peak in terms of a place of
>> freedom
>> and others have overtaken it.
>
> all the more reason to resist self censorship and cowardice!
>
>
>
>> Not sure how you recover freedoms from a panopticon state with a one
>> dollar
>> one vote and a 100 billion dollar+ military-spy-industrial complex and a
>> significantly biased politicial- judicial system.
>
> now _this_ is a discussion worthy of the list. and there are lots of ideas
> :P
>
>
>
>> You care about crypto deployment, so
>> I dont see the logic in picking the most stupid, unrelated and
>> controversial
>> domain name you can think of hitting as many peoples distaste as you can
>> and
>> use that?
>
> "embracing epithets and culling the useless."
>
>
>
>>  wtf back at you :)
>
> i am indefensible and unreasonable; let's keep me out of this!
>
>
>
>> I guess we should go write some code!
>
> agreed;
>   on that note a few resources and projects to make this tirade not
> entirely useless:
>
>
> "Selected Papers in Anonymity"
> http://freehaven.net/anonbib/author.html
>  [why does this not have an HTTPS URL?]
>
> "Bibliography - GNU's Framework for Secure Peer-to-Peer Networking"
> https://gnunet.org/bibliography?s=author&o=asc
>
> "pentest-bookmarks"
> https://code.google.com/p/pentest-bookmarks/wiki/BookmarksList
>
> "Project Byzantium"
> http://project-byzantium.org/faqs/
>  [why does this not have an HTTPS URL?]
>
> "Dust: A Censorship-Resistant Internet Transport Protocol"
> https://github.com/blanu/Dust
>
> "The Anykernel and Rump Kernels"
> https://www.netbsd.org/docs/rump/
>


-- 
"On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the
machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly
to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a
question."

-Charles Babbage, 19th century English mathematician, philosopher, inventor
and mechanical engineer who originated the concept of a programmable
computer.