Geotemporal Public Key Distribution

Rich Jones rich at openwatch.net
Mon Aug 26 17:34:07 PDT 2013


Yeah, with J3M, it relies on the user to supply their own sensor data,
which is obviously problematic if the use case is to prevent forgery (if
it's just for archival purposes, it works fine.) With a networked system,
the location would be determined from the traffic source or similar.


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Lee Azzarello <lee at guardianproject.info>wrote:

> I don't fully understand the model that excludes GPS data as a
> provider of a "specific place". Would the GPS satellites and ground
> units be an "external" data source? If so, is your assertion that GPS
> data from a device's logging app could be forged in transit?
>
> -lee
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Rich Jones <rich at openwatch.net> wrote:
> > I'm familiar with J3M, but unfortunately none of the current
> J3M/informacam
> > techniques actually work, as they have no _external_ verifiability. There
> > isn't actually any information which ties the media to a place or a time,
> > it's just information encoded into data which could be applied to any
> > document at any time. By factoring the network, a geotemporal pkey system
> > would address this problem. J3M is good for tying information to a
> specific
> > device (sort of) - but not to a place or a time.
> >
> > R
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Lee Azzarello <lee at guardianproject.info
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Informacam
> >>
> >> "InformaCam is a mobile application for Android that enables users to
> >> inflate image and video with extra points of data, or metadata. The
> >> metadata includes information like the user’s current GPS coordinates,
> >> altitude, compass bearing, light meter readings, the signatures of
> >> neighboring devices, cell towers, and wifi networks; and serves to
> >> shed light on the exact circumstances and contexts under which the
> >> digital image was taken. With InformaCam the app starts to behave
> >> almost like Adobe Photoshop or GIMP, supporting non-destructive,
> >> layer-based edits to media built on top of Obscuracam."
> >>
> >> https://guardianproject.info/apps/informacam/
> >>
> >> There is a sub-project to standardize metadata called j3m.
> >> http://j3m.info/
> >>
> >> -lee
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Rich Jones <rich at openwatch.net> wrote:
> >> > This is a small, unfinished idea I had, but I'd be interested in
> hearing
> >> > any
> >> > feedback anybody here might have to offer. Normally we talk about
> >> > cryptography to secure communications, but this is an idea rather
> about
> >> > verifying the authenticity of media.
> >> >
> >> > [Quick backround: OpenWatch is a global citizen media network using
> >> > mobile
> >> > phones as the basis for a free worldwide press. We care very much
> about
> >> > the
> >> > authenticity of citizen media, and have designed some systems which
> >> > attempt
> >> > to improve the verifiability of citizen media.]
> >> >
> >> > The problem is that sometimes media artifacts are presented as a
> record
> >> > of a
> >> > current event, when in fact they from different events. An example of
> >> > this
> >> > was when images of a marathon race in Istanbul were presented as
> images
> >> > of
> >> > the recent Occupy Gezi protests.
> >> >
> >> > Now, imagine the globe divided into a grid coordinate system, say
> >> > 100,000
> >> > units (or perhaps 232, if IP rather than physical address is to be
> >> > used).
> >> > Based on their physical location, reporters can contact a server and
> are
> >> > assigned a key with which to sign or encrypt their media to. This then
> >> > ties
> >> > a media object to a physical space. This can be further improved to
> >> > include
> >> > both time and space by dividing a space-day into a number of units,
> >> > suppose
> >> > 1440, such that different keys would be handed out at different times
> of
> >> > the
> >> > day, thus further tying a document to a moment in time as well.
> >> >
> >> > Does anybody know if any systems like this have ever been discussed or
> >> > designed in the past? I suppose this is somewhat similar to the
> >> > RSA-keyfob
> >> > system, although this allows for anonymous access without
> >> > pre-arrangement as
> >> > well.
> >> >
> >> > R
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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> > Rich Jones
> >
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