It is possible for you to receive a freeze order that will compel
   you to maintain referenced records. These orders (generally received
   prior to a pending subpoena) can be rather general, so this generally
   serves the purpose of preventing you from going on a
   shred/rm/wipe/degauss spree before the authorities get what they want
   from you. However, I do know of at least one case where someone
   challenged such a document on the basis that it was obtuse. Can't cite
   off the top of my head, though. If you would like to see some copies of
   documents that are generally used by feds to accomplish these goals,
   let me know. I will see if I can neuter some for reference purposes.

   ok,
   Rush

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Jim Choate [[1]mailto:ravage@einstein.ssz.com]
   Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 5:02 PM
   To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com
   Subject: Computer logs

   FindLaw doesn't show anything for 'computer logs'.

   Other than destroying them because they are evidence of a crime I am
   not
   aware of anything that might require anyone to keep them. There
   certainly
   wasn't any sort of requirement for folks like myself at the time of the
   CJ
   trial to keep records for any length of time.

   The flip side is that if you go around destroying all your logs as they
   are made the security of your system comes into question.


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