It is abundantly clear to me that much of the ranting going on here on this list is at least 50% sour grapes. Not to pick on Tim, but he just seems like a convenient example; it is clear in Tim's mind that he does not want the possibility of Gore being the next president. He may have some procedural reasons to back this rant up, but he definitely does not like Gore. The same can be said of the rants about the dead guy. The same can be said of the disgruntled voters of Palm county. The same can be said of Republicans and Democrats desperately trying to manipulate the rules to gain some tiny margin of hope of winning. Yes, in all of these cases, the interested party can cite many legal issues and keep lots of lawyers fed and happy. But if the opposing party was the one who might stand to gain from the same procedural maneuvers, these rants and whines would never have come from the same people. I know Tim will be offended because I am accusing him of being less than objective, but I really have trouble believing he would hold the same position so firmly if his favorite candidate might stand to gain from the post-election-day legal challenges. (Like I said, Tim, I'm sorry it looks like I'm picking on you, but you've made yourself so easy to pick on. Perhaps you would just think about what would happen if your candidate was the one who WOULD stand to gain from the legal challenges.) It's just sour grapes. Ern