I'll add two words to the list: "support" (as opposed to "provide"), and "accountability." I prefer to say that a digital signature is a tool that "supports accountability." I suppose that "supports non-repudiation" would be fine as well. My concern is when the phrase "provides non-repudiation" is used it implies that complete non-repudiation can be provided technically (which I don't believe is the case). Mike J. > -----Original Message----- > From: David Jablon [[1]mailto:dpj@world.std.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:29 AM > To: Arnold G. Reinhold > Cc: dcsb@ai.mit.edu; cryptography@c2.net; cypherpunks@cyberpass.net > Subject: Re: Non-Repudiation in the Digital Environment (was Re: First > Monday August 2000) > > > "Anti-repudiation" sounds good to me. > > ... even if does remind me of "antidisestablishmentarianism". > Come to think of it, now even that term sounds appropriate here -- as > our belief in the value of methods that deter key "dis-establishment". > Pretty scary. > > -- dpj > > At 09:08 AM 10/11/00 -0400, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote: > >My concern is that the vast majority of informed lay people, > lawyers, > >judges, legislators, etc. will hear "non-repudiation" and hear > >"absolute proof." If you doubt this, read the breathless articles > >written recently about the new U.S. Electronic Signatures Act. > > > >I don't think technologists should be free to use evocative > terms and > >then define away their common sense meaning in the fine print. > >Certainly a valid public key signature is strong evidence and > >services like that described in the draft can be useful. I simply > >object to calling them "non-repudiation services." I would > not object > >to "anti-repudiation services," "counter-repudiation services" or > >"repudiation-resistant technology." Would the banking > industry employ > >terms like "forgery-proof checks," "impregnable vaults" or > >"pick-proof locks" to describe conventional security measures that > >were known to be fallible? > > References 1. mailto:dpj@world.std.com