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From measl at mfn.org  Thu Mar  1 10:28:44 2012
From: measl at mfn.org (J.A. Terranson)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:28:44 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [cryptography] Constitutional Showdown Voided as Feds
  Decrypt  Laptop (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1203011228190.26610@mx1.mfn.org>

How convenient :-/


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:02:32 -0500
From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader at gmail.com>
To: James S. Tyre <jstyre at jstyre.com>
Cc: cryptography at randombit.net
Subject: Re: [cryptography] Constitutional Showdown Voided as Feds Decrypt
    Laptop

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:53 PM, James S. Tyre <jstyre at jstyre.com> wrote:
> (This is the case in Colorado, not the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals case which has been
> much discussed of late.)
>
> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/02/decryption-flap-mooted
>
> Constitutional Showdown Voided as Feds Decrypt Laptop
>
>    By David Kravets
>    Email Author
>    February 29, 2012 |
>    5:17 pm
>
> Colorado federal authorities have decrypted a laptop seized from a bank-fraud defendant,
> mooting a judge's order that the defendant unlock the hard drive so the government could
> use its contents as evidence against her.
>
> The development ends a contentious legal showdown over whether forcing a defendant to
> decrypt a laptop is a breach of the 5th Amendment right against compelled self
> incrimination.
>
> The authorities seized the encrypted Toshiba laptop from defendant Ramona Fricosu in 2010
> with valid court warrants while investigating alleged mortgage fraud, and demanded she
> decrypt it. Colorado U.S. District Judge Robert Blackburn ordered the woman in January to
> decrypt the laptop by the end of February. The judge refused to stay his decision to allow
> Fricosu time to appeal.
>
> "They must have used or found successful one of the passwords the co-defendant provided
> them," Fricosu's attorney, Philip Dubois, said in a telephone interview Wednesday.
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From oli at cryptosms.org  Thu Mar  1 03:46:59 2012
From: oli at cryptosms.org (oli)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:46:59 +0100
Subject: [liberationtech] jamming satellite phones in Homs
Message-ID: <mailman.3277.1576008221.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Hi,

according to:

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"But communication with residents in the district was difficult.
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Anyone any ideas what this "new technology" is?

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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:32:28 +0100
Subject: [liberationtech] jamming satellite phones in Homs
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Subject: [Pigdog] Hallo Heimatlandsicherheitsdienst
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On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Eugen Leitl wrote:

> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:07:00 +0100
> From: Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org>
> To: Schweinehundlisten <pigdog at pigdog.org>, tt at postbiota.org
> Subject: [Pigdog] Hallo Heimatlandsicherheitsdienst
> 
>     Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
>     Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
>     Coast Guard (USCG)
>     Customs and Border Protection (CBP)
>     Border Patrol
>     Secret Service (USSS)
>     National Operations Center (NOC)
>     Homeland Defense
>     Immigration Customs Enforcement (ICE)
>     Agent
>     Task Force
>     Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
>     Fusion Center
>     Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA)
>     Secure Border Initiative (SBI)
>     Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
>     Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (ATF)
>     U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS)
>     Federal Air Marshal Service (FAMS)
>     Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
>     Air Marshal
>     Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)
>     National Guard
>     Red Cross
>     United Nations (UN)
> 
>     Assassination
>     Attack
>     Domestic security
>     Drill
>     Exercise
>     Cops
>     Law enforcement
>     Authorities
>     Disaster assistance
>     Disaster management
>     DNDO (Domestic Nuclear Detection Office)
>     National preparedness
>     Mitigation
>     Prevention
>     Response
>     Recovery
>     Dirty Bomb
>     Domestic nuclear detection
>     Emergency management
>     Emergency response
>     First responder
>     Homeland security
>     Maritime domain awareness (MDA)
>     National preparedness initiative
>     Militia
>     Shooting
>     Shots fired
>     Evacuation
>     Deaths
>     Hostage
>     Explosion (explosive)
>     Police
>     Disaster medical assistance team (DMAT)
>     Organized crime
>     Gangs
>     National security
>     State of emergency
>     Security
>     Breach
>     Threat
>     Standoff
>     SWAT
>     Screening
>     Lockdown
>     Bomb (squad or threat)
>     Crash
>     Looting
>     Riot
>     Emergency Landing
>     Pipe bomb
>     Incident
>     Facility
> 
>     Hazmat
>     Nuclear
>     Chemical Spill
>     Suspicious package/device
>     Toxic
>     National laboratory
>     Nuclear facility
>     Nuclear threat
>     Cloud
>     Plume
>     Radiation
>     Radioactive
>     Leak
>     Biological infection (or event)
>     Chemical
>     Chemical burn
>     Biological
>     Epidemic
>     Hazardous
>     Hazardous material incident
>     Industrial spill
>     Infection
>     Powder (white)
>     Gas
>     Spillover
>     Anthrax
>     Blister agent
>     Exposure
>     Burn
>     Nerve agent
>     Ricin
>     Sarin
>     North Korea
> 
>     Outbreak
>     Contamination
>     Exposure
>     Virus
>     Evacuation
>     Bacteria
>     Recall
>     Ebola
>     Food Poisoning
>     Foot and Mouth (FMD)
>     H5N1
>     Avian
>     Flu
>     Salmonella
>     Small Pox
>     Plague
>     Human to human
>     Human to ANIMAL
>     Influenza
>     Center for Disease Control (CDC)
>     Drug Administration (FDA)
>     Public Health
>     Toxic
>     Agro Terror
>     Tuberculosis (TB)
>     Agriculture
>     Listeria
>     Symptoms
>     Mutation
>     Resistant
>     Antiviral
>     Wave
>     Pandemic
>     Infection
>     Water/air borne
>     Sick
>     Swine
>     Pork
>     Strain
>     Quarantine
>     H1N1
>     Vaccine
>     Tamiflu
>     Norvo Virus
>     Epidemic
>     World Health Organization (WHO and components)
>     Viral Hemorrhagic Fever
>     E. Coli
> 
>     Infrastructure security
>     Airport
>     CIKR (Critical Infrastructure & Key Resources)
>     AMTRAK
>     Collapse
>     Computer infrastructure
>     Communications infrastructure
>     Telecommunications
>     Critical infrastructure
>     National infrastructure
>     Metro
>     WMATA
>     Airplane (and derivatives)
>     Chemical fire
>     Subway
>     BART
>     MARTA
>     Port Authority
>     NBIC (National Biosurveillance Integration Center)
>     Transportation security
>     Grid
>     Power
>     Smart
>     Body scanner
>     Electric
>     Failure or outage
>     Black out
>     Brown out
>     Port
>     Dock
>     Bridge
>     Canceled
>     Delays
>     Service disruption
>     Power lines
> 
>     Drug cartel
>     Violence
>     Gang
>     Drug
>     Narcotics
>     Cocaine
>     Marijuana
>     Heroin
>     Border
>     Mexico
>     Cartel
>     Southwest
>     Juarez
>     Sinaloa
>     Tijuana
>     Torreon
>     Yuma
>     Tucson
>     Decapitated
>     U.S. Consulate
>     Consular
>     El Paso
>     Fort Hancock
>     San Diego
>     Ciudad Juarez
>     Nogales
>     Sonora
>     Colombia
>     Mara salvatrucha
>     MS13 or MS-13
>     Drug war
>     Mexican army
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>     Cartel de Golfo
>     Gulf Cartel
>     La Familia
>     Reynose
>     Nuevo Leon
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>     Execution
>     Gunfight
>     Trafficking
>     Kidnap
>     Calderon
>     Reyosa
>     Bust
>     Tamaulipas
>     Meth Lab
>     Drug trade
>     Illegal immigrants
>     Smuggling (smugglers)
>     Matamoros
>     Michoacana
>     Guzman
>     Arellano-Felix
>     Beltran-Leyva
>     Barrio Azteca
>     Artistics Assassins
>     Mexicles
>     New Federation
> 
>     Terrorism
>     Al Queda (all spellings)
>     Terror
>     Attack
>     Iraq
>     Afghanistan
>     Iran
>     Pakistan
>     Agro
>     Environmental terrorist
>     Eco terrorism
>     Conventional weapon
>     Target
>     Weapons grade
>     Dirty bomb
>     Enriched
>     Nuclear
>     Chemical weapon
>     Biological weapon
>     Ammonium nitrate
>     Improvised explosive device
>     IED (Improvised Explosive Device)
>     Abu Sayyaf
>     Hamas
>     FARC (Armed Revolutionary Forces Colombia)
>     IRA (Irish Republican Army)
>     ETA (Euskadi ta Askatasuna)
>     Basque Separatists
>     Hezbollah
>     Tamil Tiger
>     PLF (Palestine Liberation Front)
>     PLO (Palestine Libration Organization)
>     Car bomb
>     Jihad
>     Taliban
>     Weapons cache
>     Suicide bomber
>     Suicide attack
>     Suspicious substance
>     AQAP (Al Qaeda Arabian Peninsula)
>     AQIM (Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb)
>     TTP (Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan)
>     Yemen
>     Pirates
>     Extremism
>     Somalia
>     Nigeria
>     Radicals
>     Al-Shabaab
>     Home grown
>     Plot
>     Nationalist
>     Recruitment
>     Fundamentalism
>     Islamist
> 
>     Emergency
>     Hurricane
>     Tornado
>     Twister
>     Tsunami
>     Earthquake
>     Tremor
>     Flood
>     Storm
>     Crest
>     Temblor
>     Extreme weather
>     Forest fire
>     Brush fire
>     Ice
>     Stranded/Stuck
>     Help
>     Hail
>     Wildfire
>     Tsunami Warning Center
>     Magnitude
>     Avalanche
>     Typhoon
>     Shelter-in-place
>     Disaster
>     Snow
>     Blizzard
>     Sleet
>     Mud slide or Mudslide
>     Erosion
>     Power outage
>     Brown out
>     Warning
>     Watch
>     Lightening
>     Aid
>     Relief
>     Closure
>     Interstate
>     Burst
>     Emergency Broadcast System
> 
>     Cyber security
>     Botnet
>     DDOS (dedicated denial of service)
>     Denial of service
>     Malware
>     Virus
>     Trojan
>     Keylogger
>     Cyber Command
>     2600
>     Spammer
>     Phishing
>     Rootkit
>     Phreaking
>     Cain and abel
>     Brute forcing
>     Mysql injection
>     Cyber attack
>     Cyber terror
>     Hacker
>     China
>     Conficker
>     Worm
>     Scammers
>     Social media
> 
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> 


//Alif

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From: coderman at gmail.com (coderman)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 22:06:20 -0800
Subject: 8107 odell rd
Message-ID: <CAJVRA1QnedrvD=VhmWmFBUAkbHqgnJ04MyzidEsJxPf-+73hMQ@mail.gmail.com>

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From measl at mfn.org  Sat Mar  3 01:39:28 2012
From: measl at mfn.org (J.A. Terranson)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 03:39:28 -0600 (CST)
Subject: 8107 odell rd
In-Reply-To: <CAJVRA1QnedrvD=VhmWmFBUAkbHqgnJ04MyzidEsJxPf-+73hMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJVRA1QnedrvD=VhmWmFBUAkbHqgnJ04MyzidEsJxPf-+73hMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1203030337150.31969@mx1.mfn.org>

On Fri, 2 Mar 2012, coderman wrote:

> speaking of fun topics, anyone know what the sign reads at:
> 
> 8107 Odell Rd Laurel, MD 20708
> 
> ?

Good luck with that: it's been intentionally blurred (circular blur zone).  
Likely just a playground for some lettered agency.


//Alif

-- 
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advertise."    [Capitalization as in original]

[1936] U.S. Public Health Service poster alerting the public to the
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From jya at pipeline.com  Sat Mar  3 04:07:17 2012
From: jya at pipeline.com (John Young)
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 07:07:17 -0500
Subject: 8107 odell rd
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1203030337150.31969@mx1.mfn.org>
References: <CAJVRA1QnedrvD=VhmWmFBUAkbHqgnJ04MyzidEsJxPf-+73hMQ@mail.gmail.com>
   <CAJVRA1QnedrvD=VhmWmFBUAkbHqgnJ04MyzidEsJxPf-+73hMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1S3nk1-0001lv-00@pop03.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

Although the sign likely does not say so, that entrance is 
to a State Department-CIA communications facility. Another 
entrance nearby goes to the CIA-NSA Special Collections 
Service which develops the technology and prepares and
runs operations for black bag and bugging jobs. This has
a pretty detailed description with names and titles of
personnel a few years back:


http://cryptome.org/state-cia.htm

Bing.com/maps has oblique views




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From r.rohozinski at psiphon.ca  Sat Mar  3 17:16:14 2012
From: r.rohozinski at psiphon.ca (Rafal Rohozinski)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 17:16:14 -0800
Subject: [liberationtech] Kill the Messenger: What Russia taught Syria
Message-ID: <mailman.3278.1576008221.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Good article on TAC SIGINT capabilities for laypersons.

Rafal



http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/03/02/kill_the_messenger?page=full


Kill the Messenger
What Russia taught Syria: When you destroy a city, make sure no one -- not even the story -- gets out alive.

BY ROBERT YOUNG PELTON | MARCH 2, 2012


It was a star-filled night in Chechnya's besieged capital of Grozny. The snow crunched under my feet as I walked with the Chechen rebel commander away from the warmth of our safe house. When we entered a bombed-out neighborhood 15 minutes away, I put the battery in my Iridium satellite phoneand waited for the glowing screen to signal that I had locked on to the satellites.

I made my call. It was short. Then the commander made a call; he quickly hung up and handed me back the phone. "Enough," he said, motioning for me to remove the battery.
As we walked briskly back to the safe house, it was exactly 10 minutes before the cascade of double wa-whumps announced the Grad rocket batteries pounding the vacant neighborhood we had just left.

It was December 1999, and the Russian assault on Grozny was unfolding in all its gruesome detail. After the dissolution of so much of the former Soviet empire, Chechnya was one country that the newly minted prime minister, Vladimir Putin, refused to let go of. His boss, Boris Yeltsin, and the Russian army had been defeated and then humiliated in the media by Chechen forces in the first war. Five years later, Russia was back. And Putin's new strategy was unbending: silence, encircle, pulverize, and "cleanse." It was a combination of brutal tactics -- a Stalinist purge of fighting-age males plus Orwellian propaganda that fed Russians a narrative wherein Chechen freedom fighters were transformed into Islamist mercenaries and terrorists. More than 200,000 civilians were to die in this war, the echoes of which continue to this day.

This time, journalists were specifically targeted to prevent sympathetic or embarrassing reports from escaping the killing zone. As such, you can't find a lot of stories about the second Chechen war. One of the few and best accounts was written by Marie Colvin, who described her terrifying escape from Grozny for the Sunday Times. Last month, Colvin thought she could roll the dice and enter the besieged Syrian city of Homs to defy yet another brutal war of oppression. This time she lost.

It's impossible to know whether Syrian President Bashar al-Assad -- a longtime ally of Russia -- studied the success of the last Chechen war before launching his own assault on the restive city of Homs. However, his Russian military advisors surely know the tactics well. The crackdown in Homs carries a grim echo of Grozny, both in its use of signals intelligence to track down and silence the regime's enemies and in its bloody determination to obliterate any opposition, including Western journalists.

Assad's ability to lethally target journalists using satellite-phone uplinks could well have cost Colvin her life. Multiple reports have suggested that Syrian forces used phone signals to pinpoint her location and then launched a rocket barrage that resulted in her death on Feb. 22, along with that of French photographer Remi Ochlik and multiple Syrian civilians.

The use of satellite and cellular transmissions to determine a subject's location was relatively new a decade ago, when I was in Grozny. Tracking phone transmissions to hunt down targets began in earnest with a covert unit of U.S. intelligence officers from the National Security Agency (NSA), CIA, Navy, Air Force, and special operations called "The Activity." This snooping unit was also called the Army of Northern Virginia, Grey Fox, and even Task Force Orange. We see much of this technology used to inform modern drone and U.S. Joint Special Operations Command strikes. My decade covering U.S. spec ops, intelligence gathering, and their contractors highlighted the impressive ability of various countries to monitor, locate, network, and act on what is called SIGINT, or signals intelligence.

The Russians have their own version of this capability, which fell under the command of the Federal Agency of Government Communications and Information, now part of the Federal Protective Service. In the United States, it would be equivalent to the NSA and FBI combined, and the agency provides sophisticated eavesdropping support to Russia's military, intelligence, and counterterrorism units -- and to Russia's allies, including Syria.

Russia has spent a long time perfecting these techniques. On April 21, 1996, Chechnya's breakaway president, Dzhokhar Dudayev, was speaking on a satellite phone with Russian envoy Konstantin Borovoi about setting peace talks with Yeltsin. During the phone call, he was killed by a signal-guided missile fired from a Russian jet fighter. The warplane had received Dudayev's coordinates from a Russian ELINT (electronic intelligence) plane that had picked up and locked on to the signal emitted by the satellite phone. It was Russian deception and brutality at its finest.

It should have been clear even back then that there was a benefit and a distinct penalty to modern communications on the battlefield.

Flash forward to Syria today. The opposition Free Syrian Army is officially run by a former air force colonel who commands a barely organized group of army defectors supported by energetic youth. They rely almost entirely on cell-phone service, satellite phones, the Internet, and social media to organize and communicate. Early in February, according to a Fox News report, Qatar provided3,000 satellite phones, which the Syrian rebels have used to upload numerous impactful videos and stories.

These past few weeks, under a barrage of mortar, tank, and artillery shells, their plaintive calls for help from inside the besieged Baba Amr neighborhood of Homs sparked international outrage. But without Western journalists filing for newspapers and television outlets, these videos -- mostly shaky, low-resolution footage of corpses and artillery strikes -- wouldn't have had the impact they deserve.

In a welcome resurgence of non-embedded journalism, brave reporters like Colvin and many others risked their lives to enter Homs and report from the ground. What they showed us was moving, horrific, and embarrassing. Once again, Western governments were caught doing nothing -- while women, children, and innocents were murdered by their own government. It's a playbook the Syrians are good at: The shelling of Homs began on Feb. 3, 2012 -- exactly 30 years after the Hama massacre, in which Hafez al-Assad, Bashar's father, killed up to 15,000 civilians over three weeks in a similar program of wanton destruction.

What we haven't seen as clearly is the extent to which the Syrian regime (thanks to its Russian advisors) now has the tools of electronic warfare to crush this popular uprising -- and anything that happens to get in the way. Syria is one of Russia's biggest clients for weapons, training, and intelligence. In return for such largesse, it has offered the Russian Navy use of Tartus, a new deep-water military port in the Mediterranean. Moscow sold Damascus nearly $1 billion worth of weapons in 2011, despite growing sanctions against the oppressive Assad regime. With these high-tech weapons comes the less visible Russian-supplied training on technologies, tactics, and strategies.

The sounds of rockets pulverizing civilians should have brought back memories and warnings to Colvin. She would have recognized all the signs from her previous reporting in Chechnya, where she and her escorts were hunted relentlessly by Russian domestic security agents who sought to arrest, silence, or kill any journalist attempting to report on the slaughter of civilians.

My time in Grozny included being surrounded three times by the Russian army, numerous direct bombardments, and frequent close calls. I paid attention to the safety warnings of the Chechen rebel commanders who kept me alive. These rebels were once part of the Soviet military and intelligence apparatus and were fully schooled in Russia's dirty tricks. They taught me much. Chief among them was not communicating electronically while in country, not trusting "media guides," and never telling people where I was going. If captured by Russian troops, they urged me -- for my own safety -- to say that I had been kidnapped by Chechen forces.

Just as I exited Chechnya, I met Colvin, who was heading in. She wanted to know as much as she could. I warned her of the duplicity and violent intent of the Russian military and their Chechen proxies. Despite my warnings, she bravely entered Chechnya and wrote riveting, award-winning stories that now sound almost identical to her coverage from Syria.

I was distressed to read of Colvin's death in Syria, and even more distressed to think she might still be alive now if she had remembered some basic warnings. Her first error was that she stayed inside the rebel "media center" -- in reality, a four-story family home converted to this use as it was one of the few places that had a generator.

The second was communication. The Syrian army had shut down the cell-phone system and much of the power in Baba Amr -- and when journalists sent up signals it made them a clear target. After CNN's Arwa Damon broadcast live from the "media center" for a week, the house was bombarded until the top floor collapsed. Colvin may have been trapped, but she chose to make multiple phone reports and even went live on CNN and other media channels, clearly mentioning that she was staying in the bombed building.

The third mistake was one of tone. She made her sympathies in the besieged city clearly known as she emotionally described the horrors and documented the crimes of the Syrian government.

Unsurprisingly, the next day at 9 a.m., a barrage of rockets was launched at the "media center." She was killed -- along her cameraman, Remi Ochlik, and at least 80 Syrian civilians across the city -- targeted with precision rocket barrages, bombs, and the full violence of the Syrian army.

In Grozny, Russian forces decided that they would eliminate everything, everybody, and every voice that stood up to the state -- including journalists who tried to enter. Syria has clearly made the same determination in Homs. This military action is intended to be a massacre, a Stalinist-style lesson to those who dare defy the rulers of Syria.

The United Nations estimates that more than 7,500 Syrians have so far been killed in the yearlong spasm of violence there. Perhaps this ghastly toll would be even higher now if brave reporters like Colvin had not entered. With the recent news that the rebels have retreated from the bombardment of Baba Amr to safer territory, Assad's forces, as well as their Russian advisors, are claiming victory. According to official news reports from the Syrian Information Ministry, "the foreign-backed mercenaries and armed terrorist groups" have fled, the corpses of three Western journalists have been "discovered," and Homs is now "peaceful."

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From brianc at smallworldnews.tv  Sat Mar  3 20:51:40 2012
From: brianc at smallworldnews.tv (Brian Conley)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 20:51:40 -0800
Subject: [liberationtech] Kill the Messenger: What Russia taught Syria
Message-ID: <mailman.3279.1576008221.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

I have to respecfully disagree. If our only concern is to properly scare
people about the implications of targeting based on RF transmissions, then
yes, the article does a good job of that.

My concern is to ensure that journalists, activists, and their enablers
have access to the best information and the most likely/accurate review of
events about which we may never have "facts."

I guess I should specify the elements of the article that I consider to be
sensational, speculative, and/or downright misleading/scare-mongering.

First of all, Mr. Pelton is well known for being a glory-hound, his book
"The World's Most Dangerous Places" should be enough to make that clear.

So firstly, he starts with his own "glory days" covering Chechnya, and the
first issue I would raise is this quote:

"As we walked briskly back to the safe house, it was exactly 10 minutes
before the cascade of double *wa-whumps* announced the Grad rocket
batteries pounding the vacant neighborhood we had just left."

Mr. Pelton has mentioned previously in a forum of journalists, human rights
reporters, and their colleagues(fixers, translators etc), known as the
Vulture Club, that the Russians have equipment that can lock onto an RF
signal and fire Grad rockets at the location within a matter of minutes,
taking merely 10 minutes from starting a phone call to hitting the
location. I asked him repeatedly if he would clarify which targeting
system, specifically, Unfortunately none of the details he provided
suggested such a capacity, therefore while it's certainly possible this
capacity exists, to just state it as fact, to my mind, qualifies as
scaremongering, and does not serve to improve our general understanding of
the risks of satellite communications.

There follows three paragraphs serving only to establish that yes indeed
journalists have been directly targeted in Russia's war in Chechnya. This
is then used to suggest it is self-evident that:

" journalists were specifically targeted to prevent sympathetic or
embarrassing reports from escaping the killing zone."

This is just outright unsubstantiated. There was one account in the
Telegraph paper that sourced Lebanese intelligence stating that the Syrian
regime has claimed it would target journalists directly. If it is prime
facie fact, isn't it strange that there is only one source and no other
papers directly carried this allegation?

Next Mr. Pelton asserts that satellite phone uplinks:

"could well have cost Colvin her life." and "Multiple reports have
suggested<http://cpj.org/blog/2012/02/caveat-utilitor-satellite-phones-can-always-be-tra.php>
that
Syrian forces used phone signals to pinpoint her location"

Now then, if Mr. Pelton were simply another ignorant journalist printing
what he understood as potential threats, that would be one thing, however
he has been privy to extended discussions about the relative improbability
that satellite phones were targeted, vs the much more likely case that the
VSAT and/or BGAN on the roof of the "makeshift media centre" or, equally
likely, old-fashioned human intelligence targeting resulted in the deaths
of the individuals noted. Further these "multiple reports" are essentially
rehashings of the same initial report, of which Mr. Pelton should be well
aware.

It is very sad that Colvin and Ochlik were killed, and other journalists
grievously wounded. It's even more sad that so many Syrians lost their
lives evacuating the survivors. Given these facts and the importance of
honoring their loss, I would prefer to see less hyperbole and
sensationalism and more soul-searching and review of just how these events
happened.

As I stated last week on this list, Marie Colvin herself was quoted as
saying that she would not use her satellite phone because of her fear that
it could be intercepted/targeted. Instead she opted to depend on Skype
which, though variously secure, relies on a much higher bandwidth
connection which is vastly easier to target. Rather than continuing the
magical thinking that may well have led to Colvin's death, we should take a
hard look at what we know about the facts and review the lack of
approachable, available documentation about communications security,
particularly satellite-based communications.

Brian

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Jillian C. York <jilliancyork at gmail.com>wrote:

> Not really. The writer clearly notes that this is reported, not fact, and
> these lessons, if not pertinent to Colvin specifically, no doubt will be.
>
> As you note, it's still all speculation, but the author makes that pretty
> clear.
>  On Mar 3, 2012 5:49 PM, "Brian Conley" <brianc at smallworldnews.tv> wrote:
>
>> There is all kinds of sensationalism and speculation in this article.
>>
>> Further, I think I've already clearly explained that the speculation the
>> journalists were directly targeted is speculation and the most likely
>> transmissions related target is the satellite modem setup likely provided
>> by Avaaz to the opposition, not the phones.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 17:16, Rafal Rohozinski <r.rohozinski at psiphon.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good article on TAC SIGINT capabilities for laypersons.
>>
>> Rafal
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/03/02/kill_the_messenger?page=full
>>
>>
>>  Kill the Messenger<http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/03/02/kill_the_messenger> What
>> Russia taught Syria: When you destroy a city, make sure no one -- not even
>> the story -- gets out alive.
>> BY ROBERT YOUNG PELTON | MARCH 2, 2012
>>
>>
>> It was a star-filled night in Chechnya's besieged capital of Grozny. The
>> snow crunched under my feet as I walked with the Chechen rebel commander
>> away from the warmth of our safe house. When we entered a bombed-out
>> neighborhood 15 minutes away, I put the battery in my Iridium satellite
>> phone**and waited for the glowing screen to signal that I had locked on
>> to the satellites.
>>
>> I made my call. It was short. Then the commander made a call; he quickly
>> hung up and handed me back the phone. "Enough," he said, motioning for me
>> to remove the battery.
>>
>> As we walked briskly back to the safe house, it was exactly 10 minutes
>> before the cascade of double *wa-whumps* announced the Grad rocket
>> batteries pounding the vacant neighborhood we had just left.
>>
>> It was December 1999, and the Russian assault on Grozny was unfolding in
>> all its gruesome detail. After the dissolution of so much of the former
>> Soviet empire, Chechnya was one country that the newly minted prime
>> minister, Vladimir Putin, refused to let go of. His boss, Boris Yeltsin,
>> and the Russian army had been defeated and then humiliated in the media by
>> Chechen forces in the first war. Five years later, Russia was back. And
>> Putin's new strategy was unbending: silence, encircle, pulverize, and
>> "cleanse." It was a combination of brutal tactics -- a Stalinist purge of
>> fighting-age males plus Orwellian propaganda that fed Russians a narrative
>> wherein Chechen freedom fighters were transformed into Islamist mercenaries
>> and terrorists. More than 200,000 civilians were to die in this war, the
>> echoes of which continue to this day.
>>
>> This time, journalists were specifically targeted to prevent sympathetic
>> or embarrassing reports from escaping the killing zone. As such, you can't
>> find a lot of stories about the second Chechen war. One of the few and best
>> accounts was written by Marie Colvin, who described her terrifying escape
>> from Grozny for the *Sunday Times*. Last month, Colvin thought she could
>> roll the dice and enter the besieged Syrian city of Homs to defy yet
>> another brutal war of oppression. This time she lost.
>>
>> It's impossible to know whether Syrian President Bashar al-Assad -- a
>> longtime ally of Russia -- studied the success of the last Chechen war
>> before launching his own assault on the restive city of Homs. However, his
>> Russian military advisors surely know the tactics well. The crackdown in
>> Homs carries a grim echo of Grozny, both in its use of signals intelligence
>> to track down and silence the regime's enemies and in its bloody
>> determination to obliterate any opposition, including Western journalists.
>>
>> Assad's ability to lethally target journalists using satellite-phone
>> uplinks could well have cost Colvin her life. Multiple reports have
>> suggested<http://cpj.org/blog/2012/02/caveat-utilitor-satellite-phones-can-always-be-tra.php> that
>> Syrian forces used phone signals to pinpoint her location and then launched
>> a rocket barrage that resulted in her death on Feb. 22, along with that of
>> French photographer Remi Ochlik and multiple Syrian civilians.
>>
>> The use of satellite and cellular transmissions to determine a subject's
>> location was relatively new a decade ago, when I was in Grozny. Tracking
>> phone transmissions to hunt down targets began in earnest with a covert
>> unit of U.S. intelligence officers from the National Security Agency (NSA),
>> CIA, Navy, Air Force, and special operations called "The Activity." This
>> snooping unit was also called the Army of Northern Virginia, Grey Fox, and
>> even Task Force Orange. We see much of this technology used to inform
>> modern drone and U.S. Joint Special Operations Command strikes. My decade
>> covering U.S. spec ops, intelligence gathering, and their contractors
>> highlighted the impressive ability of various countries to monitor, locate,
>> network, and act on what is called SIGINT, or signals intelligence.
>>
>> The Russians have their own version of this capability, which fell under
>> the command of the Federal Agency of Government Communications and
>> Information <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAPSI>, now part of the
>> Federal Protective Service. In the United States, it would be equivalent to
>> the NSA and FBI combined, and the agency provides sophisticated
>> eavesdropping support to Russia's military, intelligence, and
>> counterterrorism units -- and to Russia's allies, including Syria.
>>
>> Russia has spent a long time perfecting these techniques. On April 21,
>> 1996, Chechnya's breakaway president, Dzhokhar Dudayev, was speaking on a
>> satellite phone* *with Russian envoy Konstantin Borovoi about setting
>> peace talks with Yeltsin. During the phone call, he was killed<http://www.nytimes.com/1996/04/25/world/chechen-rebels-say-leader-died-in-russian-air-attack.html?ref=dzhokarmdudayev> by
>> a signal-guided missile fired from a Russian jet fighter. The warplane had
>> received Dudayev's coordinates from a Russian ELINT (electronic
>> intelligence)* *plane that had picked up and locked on to the signal
>> emitted by the satellite phone. It was Russian deception and brutality at
>> its finest.
>>
>> It should have been clear even back then that there was a benefit and a
>> distinct penalty to modern communications on the battlefield.
>>
>> Flash forward to Syria today. The opposition Free Syrian Army is
>> officially run by a former air force colonel who commands a barely
>> organized group of army defectors supported by energetic youth. They rely
>> almost entirely on cell-phone service, satellite phones, the Internet, and
>> social media to organize and communicate. Early in February, according to a
>> Fox News report, Qatar provided3,000 satellite phones<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/08/report-us-and-allies-were-considering-plans-for-military-aid-to-syrian-rebels/>,
>> which the Syrian rebels have used to upload numerous impactful videos and
>> stories.
>>
>> These past few weeks, under a barrage of mortar, tank, and artillery
>> shells, their plaintive calls for help from inside the besieged Baba Amr
>> neighborhood of Homs sparked international outrage. But without Western
>> journalists filing for newspapers and television outlets, these videos --
>> mostly shaky, low-resolution footage of corpses and artillery strikes --
>> wouldn't have had the impact they deserve.
>>
>> In a welcome resurgence of non-embedded journalism, brave reporters like
>> Colvin and many others risked their lives to enter Homs and report from the
>> ground. What they showed us was moving, horrific, and embarrassing. Once
>> again, Western governments were caught doing nothing -- while women,
>> children, and innocents were murdered by their own government. It's a
>> playbook the Syrians are good at: The shelling of Homs began on Feb. 3,
>> 2012 -- exactly 30 years after the Hama massacre, in which Hafez al-Assad,
>> Bashar's father, killed up to 15,000 civilians over three weeks in a
>> similar program of wanton destruction.
>>
>> What we haven't seen as clearly is the extent to which the Syrian regime
>> (thanks to its Russian advisors) now has the tools of electronic warfare to
>> crush this popular uprising -- and anything that happens to get in the way.
>> Syria is one of Russia's biggest clients for weapons, training, and
>> intelligence. In return for such largesse, it has offered the Russian Navy
>> use of Tartus, a new deep-water military port in the Mediterranean. Moscow
>> sold Damascus nearly $1 billion<http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/21/us-syria-russia-arms-idUSTRE81K13420120221> worth
>> of weapons in 2011, despite growing sanctions against the oppressive Assad
>> regime. With these high-tech weapons comes the less visible
>> Russian-supplied training on technologies, tactics, and strategies.
>>
>> The sounds of rockets pulverizing civilians should have brought back
>> memories and warnings to Colvin. She would have recognized all the signs
>> from her previous reporting in Chechnya, where she and her escorts were
>> hunted relentlessly by Russian domestic security agents who sought to
>> arrest, silence, or kill any journalist attempting to report on the
>> slaughter of civilians.
>>
>> My time in Grozny included being surrounded three times by the Russian
>> army, numerous direct bombardments, and frequent close calls. I paid
>> attention to the safety warnings of the Chechen rebel commanders who kept
>> me alive. These rebels were once part of the Soviet military and
>> intelligence apparatus and were fully schooled in Russia's dirty tricks.
>> They taught me much. Chief among them was not communicating electronically
>> while in country, not trusting "media guides," and never telling people
>> where I was going. If captured by Russian troops, they urged me -- for my
>> own safety -- to say that I had been kidnapped by Chechen forces.
>>
>> Just as I exited Chechnya, I met Colvin, who was heading in. She wanted
>> to know as much as she could. I warned her of the duplicity and violent
>> intent of the Russian military and their Chechen proxies. Despite my
>> warnings, she bravely entered Chechnya and wrote riveting, award-winning
>> stories<http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/MarieColvin/article876254.ece> that
>> now sound almost identical to her coverage from Syria.
>>
>> I was distressed to read of Colvin's death in Syria, and even more
>> distressed to think she might still be alive now if she had remembered some
>> basic warnings. Her first error was that she stayed inside the rebel "media
>> center" -- in reality, a four-story family home converted to this use as it
>> was one of the few places that had a generator.
>>
>> The second was communication. The Syrian army had shut down the
>> cell-phone system and much of the power in Baba Amr -- and when journalists
>> sent up signals it made them a clear target. After CNN's Arwa Damon broadcast
>> live<http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/17/video-arwa-damon-reports-from-homs/> from
>> the "media center" for a week, the house was bombarded until the top floor
>> collapsed. Colvin may have been trapped, but she chose to make multiple
>> phone reports and even went live on CNN<http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-22/world/world_marie-colvin-interview-transcript_1_civilians-marie-colvin-syria?_s=PM:WORLD> and
>> other media channels, clearly mentioning that she was staying in the bombed
>> building.
>>
>> The third mistake was one of tone. She made her sympathies in the
>> besieged city clearly known as she emotionally described the horrors and
>> documented the crimes of the Syrian government.
>>
>> Unsurprisingly, the next day at 9 a.m., a barrage of rockets was launched
>> at the "media center." She was killed -- along her cameraman, Remi Ochlik<http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/02/22/remi_ochlik_photos_in_memoriam>,
>> and at least 80 Syrian civilians across the city -- targeted with precision
>> rocket barrages, bombs, and the full violence of the Syrian army.
>>
>> In Grozny, Russian forces decided that they would eliminate everything,
>> everybody, and every voice that stood up to the state -- including
>> journalists who tried to enter. Syria has clearly made the same
>> determination in Homs. This military action is intended to be a massacre, a
>> Stalinist-style lesson to those who dare defy the rulers of Syria.
>>
>> The United Nations estimates<http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/UN-Assads-Crackdown-Has-Killed-Well-Over-7500-People-140807773.html> that
>> more than 7,500 Syrians have so far been killed in the yearlong spasm of
>> violence there. Perhaps this ghastly toll would be even higher now if brave
>> reporters like Colvin had not entered. With the recent news that the rebels
>> have retreated from the bombardment of Baba Amr to safer territory, Assad's
>> forces, as well as their Russian advisors, are claiming victory. According
>> to official news reports from the Syrian Information Ministry, "the
>> foreign-backed mercenaries and armed terrorist groups" have fled, the
>> corpses of three Western journalists have been "discovered," and Homs is
>> now "peaceful."
>>
>> Despite what Damascus claims, this fight is not yet over. And we need
>> more brave and bright journalists who will shine a light in places like
>> Syria, where a regime works diligently to plunge its people into darkness.
>> But let's not forget whose callous playbook they're using.
>> ****
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From gfoster at entersection.org  Sun Mar  4 02:25:15 2012
From: gfoster at entersection.org (Gregory Foster)
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 04:25:15 -0600
Subject: [drone-list] North Dakota Sheriff's Dept preparing to deploy UAVs
Message-ID: <mailman.3280.1576008221.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

@sUASnews (Mar 4) - "Grand Forks Sheriff's Department launching UAS  
program" by Chris Bieri of @GFHerald:
http://www.suasnews.com/2012/03/12582/grand-forks-sheriff%E2%80%99s-department-launching-uas-program/

It looks like the Grand Forks Herald has been reporting a LOT of articles 
about UAS's:
http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/search/order/date/keywords/UAS

In part, that must be because the University of North Dakota has embraced 
the opportunity to become a locus for research, education, and training for 
unmanned aircraft systems:
http://www.uasresearch.com/home.aspx

It is therefore appropriate that The Center for UAS Research, Education  
and Training's homepage prominently features an image of a Department of  
Homeland Security Customs and Border Protection General Atomics MQ-9  
Reaper "Predator B" drone, as five of DHS's seven MQ-9's are based in  
North Dakota at the Grand Forks Air Force Base:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-9_Reaper#US_Homeland_Security

In December, Brian Bennett [ @thingsblowup ] of the LA Times reported "  
Local police say they have used two unarmed Predators based at Grand Forks 
Air Force Base to fly at least two dozen surveillance flights since June" 
in the first widely reported case of American citizens being arrested by 
local authorities with the assistance of drone surveillance provided by 
federal authorities upon request from a local law enforcement agency:
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/10/nation/la-na-drone-arrest-20111211

On September 13, 2010, North Dakota Senator Byron L. Dorgan convened a  
field hearing "at 8 a.m. in the Red River Valley Room of the Memorial  
Union, University of North Dakota, Grand Forks" on the subject of "The  
Integration of Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UASs) Into the National Airspace 
System (NAS): Fulfilling Imminent Operational and Training Requirements".  
North Dakota Representative Earl Pomeroy was also in attendance, helping 
convene a check-in meeting to spur cooperation between the FAA and Defense 
officials.  Secrecy News' Steven Aftergood [ @saftergood ] archived a copy 
of the complete transcript of the meeting, including all statements by 
witnesses and prepared testimony included in the record:
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2010_hr/uas.html

Senator Dorgan described the context for the meeting in his opening  
statement,

The hearing is about the subject of unmanned aerial
vehicles, and most particularly, the issue of training and
operations for UAVs in this region. Grand Forks and this region
of North Dakota is slated to become a major UAV center. We will
have the Predators and the Global Hawks. We'll have fleets of
Global Hawks and Predators stationed here at the Grand Forks
Air Force Base. We have Homeland Security, which flies UAVs
here. The University of North Dakota Center for Aerospace
Science is designated by law and in the DOD descriptions as the
center for UAV research. I did that because we fly unmanned
aerial vehicles in all kinds of weather, and I had visited
Nellis and Creach a number of times and discovered they do
quite well when it's warm, flying over desert sand, but they'll
be flying them in other areas of the country as well, and the
world, and having a center for research of UAVs here, connected
to the Air Force and the University of North Dakota, one of
the--probably the preeminent aviation school in the world, just
made a lot of sense.

The Senator goes on to describe reasons for convening the meeting and  
mentions a kickoff roundtable discussion 19 months earlier:

Here at the University of North Dakota, at the Center for
Research for UAVs, there's a lot of work going on, on sensitive
technologies and radar and so on, on just this very subject.
About a year ago, February 16, 2009, we met in this room, not
in a hearing, but in a roundtable discussion, and we had a very
substantial discussion about what needed to be done and the
timelines to do it, in which to create routine training and
operation capability for UAVs here in this region. We had the
Air Force and the FAA talk about creating a working group, and
from that meeting, a working group was created and has been
working between then and now.

The February 2009 confluence of "Federal and state dignitaries" in Grand  
Forks coincided with the opening of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection 
Unmanned Aircraft Operations Center of North Dakota.
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/news_releases/archives/2009_news_releases/february_2009/02162009.xml

The reason for the presence of drones in Grand Forks can be dated to 2005, 
when then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld issued a " report to the 
Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) Commission [which] noted the strategic 
importance of maintaining an air base in the north central United States 
and specifically cited the Grand Forks base for an 'emerging mission' 
involving UAVs, the fastest growing mission area in the Air Force."
http://conrad.senate.gov/pressroom/record.cfm?id=276203

In the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Commission's Final Report to  
the President (Sep 8 2005), page 151 (Chapter 1, "Air Force") indicates  
the Grand Forks Air Force Base mission was realigned from a KC-135 tanker 
hub "to include the Department of Defensebs intent to bed down a family of 
Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs)":
http://www.brac.gov/finalreport.html

The drones have had nests prepared to come home to roost for quite some  
time, much longer than might be gauged by the amount of welcome attention 
garnered by a controversial Congressional mandate in the FAA  
Reauthorization and Reform Act of 2012: " Not later than 270 days after  
the date of enactment of this Act [(February 13, 2012)], the Secretary of 
Transportation, in consultation with representatives of the aviation  
industry, Federal agencies that employ unmanned aircraft systems  
technology in the national airspace system, and the unmanned aircraft  
systems industry, shall develop a comprehensive plan to safely accelerate 
the integration of civil unmanned aircraft systems into the national 
airspace system."
http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2012/02/faa-uas.html
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h658/show

It is important to understand the scope of the bureaucratic inertia (and  
agility) that has been painstakingly transformed into kinetic motion over 
time as well as the actors involved, their dispositions, and constraints 
(or lack thereof).

The unmanned aircraft systems industry is represented first and foremost  
by the Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International [ @auvsi ]  
which lobbies Congress (and presumably other "government, industry, and  
academia" officials) on behalf of its more than 7,000 members and "2,100  
member organizations from 60 allied countries":
<http://www.auvsi.org/home/aboutus/>http://www.auvsi.org/home/aboutus/

Lobbyists from AUVSI frequently speak with elected officials, 53 of whom  
are members of the Congressional Unmanned Systems Caucus [ @CUSCaucus ],  
co-chaired by Representatives Howard P. "Buck" McKeon (R-CA-25) and Henry 
Cuellar (D-TX-28):
http://unmannedsystemscaucus.mckeon.house.gov/

Representative Buck McKeon also speaks directly to AUVSI members, as in  
his keynote at the AUVSI Unmanned Systems Program Review (Feb 7-9), here  
documented by Zaid Jilani of Republic Report:
http://www.republicreport.org/2012/mckeon-drone-lobby-speech/
http://www.auvsi.org/events/auvsievents/auvsisunmannedsystemsprogramreview/Proceedings12/

During his keynote, CodePink co-founder @MedeaBenjamin interrupted the  
proceedings and was forcibly removed.  "War Bucks" McKeon, unruffled,  
continued: " Wouldnbt we all like to cut our swords, and pull our  
ploughshares and live in total world peace? Ibll tell ya, it's  
not...thatbs not happening."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsLLVW88k20<http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2011/08/hijacked-by-code-pink.html>
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-mckeon-auvsi-drone-20120208,0,341564.story

Finally, returning to the theme of the original link, here is a list of  
all currently planned upcoming AUVSI events, including a webinar March  
14th titled "UAVs Take to the Sky for Law Enforcement":
http://www.auvsi.org/AUVSI/Events/Calendar/?ShowAsList=True

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Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:18:51 +0100
Subject: <nettime> Mute article on Bitcoin
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On 04.03.2012 16:50, Jaromil wrote:

> hi Josie,

>> The Wine and Cheese Appreciation Society and Scott Len take the
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> A rather quick conclusion, comprehensible since it takes some
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BitCoin is nothing more and nothing less than electronic specie.

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From: gfoster at entersection.org (Gregory Foster)
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:54:07 -0600
Subject: [drone-list] Montgomery Cty drone crashes during test
Message-ID: <mailman.3283.1576008221.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

   @sUASnews (Mar 5) - "Drone crashes into SWAT team tank during police
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   [1]http://www.suasnews.com/2012/03/12711/drone-crashes-into-swat-team-t
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   gf
--
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@gregoryfoster <> [3]http://entersection.com/

References

   1. http://www.suasnews.com/2012/03/12711/drone-crashes-into-swat-team-tank-during-police-test-near-houston/
   2. mailto:gfoster at entersection.org
   3. http://entersection.com/

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 17:08:53 -0500
Subject: [drone-list] Eric Holder's speech on the legality of drone use
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Good afternoon, folks:

In case you haven't seen it yet, here's the full-text of Attorney General
Eric Holder's speech at Northwestern University, in which he touches upon
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From joehall at gmail.com  Mon Mar  5 14:25:06 2012
From: joehall at gmail.com (Joseph Lorenzo Hall)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 17:25:06 -0500
Subject: [tor-talk] Teaching Non-technical Folks About Tor...
Message-ID: <mailman.3285.1576008221.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Hi tor-talk!

This is a request for input. Pedagogical input, but I'm also aware of
how crazy smart you all are in general!

About six months ago, one of you described vaguely how your servers
were seized by German cops and you explained to the police how Tor
works using envelopes within envelopes.  I had the thought that this
kind of a technique could be really helpful in teaching non-technical
folks how some aspects of Tor works through a hands-on demonstration.

This semester, I'm teaching a class of upper-division undergraduate
students in a Communications department at NYU about privacy.  I want
them to know more about Tor, and thankfully I have Runa and Aaron
stopping by my class. woo!

However, I sat down recently and tried to sketch out how an in-class
hands-on exercise might work that explained some of the core features
of Tor.  Here is the result:

https://josephhall.org/tor/tor-exercise.html
https://josephhall.org/tor/tor-exercise.text (Markdown input)

This is my first draft. It really only works with a small class (mine
is 11) or a sub-set of a larger class.  It also doesn't let the
students choose much about the messaging (this is to avoid
distractions like the hunky guy getting a bunch of love letters during
an in-class exercise! ... or more negative versions of the same.).

However, it has some serious flaws... for example, the students don't
"build circuits" through successive tunnels; the circuits are sort of
handed to them.  Also, the way it works right now the instructor is a
central big brother node.  I have tried to think about ways students
could be assigned a message and recipient and then roll dice to decide
the circuit path, but nothing seems terribly workable (and I don't
want it to get much more complex!).  Another self-criticism is that
it's not immediately apparent what part of this who charade Tor takes
care of. ::)

So, having a real physical demonstration of onion-routing may be
unrealistic... but I'm wondering if you all have comments or better
ideas about how to make it realistic without making it terribly
complex (Ideally, smart high school or grammar school students could
be taught about Tor using this kind of an exercise).

best and thanks, Joe

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From andrew at torproject.is  Tue Mar  6 09:22:16 2012
From: andrew at torproject.is (Andrew Lewman)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:22:16 -0500
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
Message-ID: <mailman.3286.1576008221.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:22:33 -0500
Ted Smith <tedks at riseup.net> wrote:
> While I like the graphic overall, I think the "NSA as a global passive
> adversary" element is an example of the graphic being overloaded with
> information that will confuse/scare away most people.

So far, there is one story where Eva claims the NSA can break tor
easily, see this Tor and HTTPS graphic as proof:

https://secure.security.nl/artikel/40574/1/%2522NSA_kan_Tor-gebruikers_identificeren%2522.html

If your adversary is any rumored global passive adversary that can watch
and record the entire Internet at once, then you've probably already
lost the game.

At PETS in 2009[0], Paul did a talk on 'why I'm not an entropist' and
suggested that people need to start working on defeating a mythical
global passive adversary. Maybe in the near future some government will
have the capability of being the global passive adversary.

[0] http://petsymposium.org/2009/program.php

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Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
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From warner at lothar.com  Tue Mar  6 19:23:39 2012
From: warner at lothar.com (Brian Warner)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:23:39 -0800
Subject: [tahoe-dev] Idea for a Publish/Subscribe Message System on
	Tahoe-LAFS
Message-ID: <mailman.3287.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:08 AM, darrob <darrob at i2pmail.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to discuss my idea for a messaging system on Tahoe with you.
>> As far as I know there is currently no such thing.

Great idea! We've discussed this a bit in the past, in the context of
helping AllMyData users send files to each other, but never got around
to building most of it. (We did build a tinyurl-like service that
pointed at filecaps, with some Javascript in the frontend that acted
upon the link by inserting the filecap into your root directory, but it
was mostly out-of-band).

Our thought was to give each pair of users a pair of directories. Each
one would be an "inbox" for one of them and an "outbox" for the other.
You'd give your friend the writecap to your inbox, and they'd add things
to it. Then you'd read from it later. A user agent could notice when
something was added to the inbox and move it somewhere else (sort of
like maildir's new/ and cur/ directories), to keep the inbox tidy.

>> The file naming scheme here is <username>-<user_ID>-<timestamp>
>> -<message_hash>. The user_ID could be the directory URI or a shorter
>> hash of it etc.

You could just use the file's filecap: those are unique. Or the
storage-index if you wanted to show someone else the directory listing
without revealing the filecaps.

>> [1]: A text file containing a list of URIs would work, too, I
>> suppose. I don't know which will be more efficient.

The benefit of using a dircap to track them is that you could fetch your
messages from a different machine by just remembering the dircap,
instead of the whole list of URIs.

>> [4]: A quick Google search brought up
>> http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2010/10/15/fake-smtp-server-with-python/

Twisted has a lot of SMTP functionality built-in, which would make it
easier to integrate into the Tahoe process, if that ended up being
useful.



On 3/5/12 9:26 PM, David Reid wrote:

> I've so far considered the problem from a fairly email centric point
> of view.   My ideas also require the so far non-existant append-only
> capability and draw inspiration from systems like StubMail[1] and
> Internet Mail 2000[2].
> 
> You see an email address, is capability in it's own right.  It's a
> transferable (practically) non-revocable append-only capability for a
> message queue that is directly linked to your attention span.  At this
> point I should hope that the negative properties of an email address
> are obvious.

You've read my http://petmail.lothar.com/ paper, right? It probably
won't surprise you that some of these ideas influenced Tahoe too.

> Alice has bob's append-cap.
> Alice creates a new message on the grid.
> Alice takes the read-cap for that message and writes that (perhaps
> with other metadata) into bob's append-cap.

As above, you can mostly avoid the need for append-caps by using
pairwise inbox/outbox directories.

Drawbacks:
* Giving Alice a one-inbox writecap allows her to cancel messages
  (deleting it before Bob has a chance to read it), but you could
  actually argue this is a feature
* For long-term storage, Bob might want to have a user agent (or a cron
  job) copy/move messages out of the inbox and into some archive
  directory where Alice can't delete them any longer

Advantages:
* it's clear where the message came from: Alice cannot write into the
  inbox that Bob has created for Carol
* append-only caps are, cryptographically speaking, really hard

> Bob then uses the read-cap to his inbox to look at all the message
> metadata and download the messages he wants to read. This is where the
> system resembles Internet Mail 2000, in a grid with accounting the
> cost of storing the unread sent message is pushed to the sender.

Yeah, my problem with IM2k was always that storage of the message body
is not the important cost: as you pointed out, it's the recipient's
attention that really matters. In IM2k, or this scheme, you have to give
the recipient enough information about the message (typically the
subject line) to decide whether to download the rest. It'll take the
spammers at most an hour before every subject line is "Help I've been
mugged and lost my wallet", or "Hi sweetie", or "Important your account
has been suspended", and the recipient has to download every message (or
ignore them and suffer false-positives). Actually, I take it back, every
spam I get already has those subject lines :).

What you really need is to rate-limit attention-grabbing behavior that
comes from outside a "social contract". New connections (people who
learn about me out-of-band, from a conference or a blog post or on the
street) are only enabled by allowing strangers to consume your time, but
if you can require them to spend their time too, then you can keep
things to a comfortably civilized level. That rate-limiting could take
the form of CAPTCHA, or money (either a refundable bond or outright
payment), or proof of membership in some group, whatever fits your
tastes.

You also want reciprocal access and easy third-party introductions to
reduce the barrier to natural human communication patterns, and you want
gradual revocation to discourage abuse by otherwise normal
correspondents (that uncle who keeps forwarding chain letters to you).

> My ideas sort of hinge on something which is not quite possible in
> Tahoe today, the revocable append-only capability. Sadly I don't even
> feel I have a good understanding of how hard it is. But if it existed
> it would be an incredibly powerful primitive for all sorts of
> applications.

Append-only caps are possible but tricky: we've had them sketched out
for years. They need pubkey-encryption (which we don't currently have or
need in Tahoe), but that's not too hard. The biggest part is deciding
how much complexity we're willing to accept in exchange for reducing the
server-attacker's ability to selectively roll-back individual records.
There's a big fun multi-way tradeoff here. Zooko is keen on using
client-side storage to remember the most-recent state of the mutable
object (so they can reject attempts to roll it back). I keep fantasizing
about a per-share DAG of record dependencies to make it hard for N-1 of
the servers to convince you that a record has gone away. And there's a
funny lattice of caps (append+write+read, append-only, append-and-read,
write-only, read-only, verify) that need some thought. It gets even
weirder when you consider the failure modes: if each record is
erasure-coded, and you get 4 shares that show evidence of record A being
added, and 3 with record B added, but k=5 and neither is enough to
recover the new records.. what should a new record-appender do?

Adding revocation to append-only caps is more complicated, but not
horribly so. You'd keep a list of pubkeys (verifiying keys) in each
share, signed by a master key (which gets to add/revoke append-caps). It
adds an extra dimension of failure modes. The server needs to be more
aware of the share format (to enforce some of the writer restrictions,
to prevent simple availability-threatening graffiti), but that's the
case for irrevocable appendcaps too.

> Of course, I leave the UX model of interacting with these long random
> cryptographic URLs as address for contacting people as an exercises
> for the reader.

Bah (/me waves hands), that's what petnames are for :).

cheers,
 -Brian
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From khsu at stanford.edu  Tue Mar  6 20:53:57 2012
From: khsu at stanford.edu (Kevin Hsu)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 20:53:57 -0800
Subject: [liberationtech] Atlantic: How Western Tech Firms Are Helping Arab
	Dictators
Message-ID: <mailman.3288.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Article of interest from *The Atlantic Monthly*
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/how-western-tech-firms-are-helping-arab-dictators/254008/


Surveillance Inc: How Western Tech Firms Are Helping Arab Dictators By
Trevor Timm & Jillian C. York
Mar 6 2012, 7:01 AM ET

*As democratic movements spread in the Middle East, governments are
cracking down, and that means big business for the companies who help them
do it.*

[image: tunis march5 p.jpg]

A computer systems coordinator at Tunisia Television in Tunis / Reuters


Reliance means vulnerability, and the activists and citizen journalists of
the Arab uprisings rely heavily on the Internet and mobile technology. They
use text messaging to coordinate protests, for example, or social media
sites to upload the photos and videos that then make it into mainstream
global media. In the first protests in Tunisia, because traditional
journalists could not get access, citizen journalists filled in, using
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including, for example, the Egyptians and Syrians who later began revolts
of their own -- a window into the events there.

For all of the good this technology has done, activists are also beginning
to understand the harm it can do. As Evgeny Morozov wrote in *The Net
Delusion<http://www.amazon.com/The-Net-Delusion-Internet-Freedom/dp/1610391063/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330898853&sr=8-1>
*, his book on the Internet's darker sides, "Denying that greater
information flows, combined with advanced technologies ... can result in
the overall strengthening of authoritarian regimes is a dangerous path to
take, if only because it numbs us to potential regulatory interventions and
the need to rein in our own Western corporate excesses."


The communications devices activists use are not as safe as they might
believe, and dozens of companies -- many of them based in North America and
Europe -- are selling technology to authoritarian governments that can be
used against democratic movements. Such tools can exploit security flaws in
the activists' technology, intercept a user's communications, or even
pinpoint their location. In many cases, this technology has led to the
arrest, torture, and even death of individuals whose only "crime" was
exercising their universal right to free speech. And, in most of these
cases, the public knew nothing about it.

Recent investigations by the
*Wall<http://online.wsj.com/public/page/censorship-investigation.html>
<http://online.wsj.com/public/page/censorship-investigation.html>Street<http://online.wsj.com/public/page/censorship-investigation.html>
<http://online.wsj.com/public/page/censorship-investigation.html>Journal<http://online.wsj.com/public/page/censorship-investigation.html>
* and *Bloomberg <http://topics.bloomberg.com/wired-for-repression/>
<http://topics.bloomberg.com/wired-for-repression/>News<http://topics.bloomberg.com/wired-for-repression/>
* have revealed just how expansively these technologies are already being
used. Intelligence agencies throughout the Middle East can today scan,
catalogue, and read virtually every email in their country. The technology
even allows them to change emails while en route to their
recipient<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-12/tunisia-after-revolt-can-alter-e-mails-with-big-brother-software.html>,
as Tunisian authorities sometimes did before the revolution.


These technologies turn activists' phones against them, allowing
governments to listen in on phone calls, read text messages, even scan cell
networks and pinpoint callers with voice recognition. They allow
intelligence agents to monitor movements of activists via a GPS locator
updated every fifteen seconds. And by tricking users into installing
malware on their devices -- as is
currently<http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-17/tech/tech_web_computer-virus-syria_1_opposition-activists-computer-viruses-syrian-town?_s=PM:TECH>
<http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-17/tech/tech_web_computer-virus-syria_1_opposition-activists-computer-viruses-syrian-town?_s=PM:TECH>
happening<http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-17/tech/tech_web_computer-virus-syria_1_opposition-activists-computer-viruses-syrian-town?_s=PM:TECH>in
Syria - government agents can remotely turn on a laptop webcam or a
cell
phone microphone without its user knowing.


In Syria recently, American journalist Marie Colvin and French photographer
Rimi Ochlik were killed by a mortar attack that may have been targeted to
the locations of their satellite
phones<http://www.rferl.org/content/marie_colvin_death_concerns_about_safe_use_satelite_phones/24495230.html>.
We don't know for sure how the Syrian army tracked them, but Lebanese
intelligence had recorded Syrian officials as planning to
target<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9099325/Marie-Colvin-Syria-regime-accused-of-murder-in-besieged-Homs.html>Western
journalists, and following satellite phone signals is just one of
the tech-aided ways they could have done it.


Syria and other abusive Middle Eastern regimes rely on technology companies
such as Area SpA, the Italian firm that contracted with the regime there to
build a surveillance center, and that pulled out only after exposure by
Bloomberg News prompted protests at their Italian headquarters. There's
also the American company Bluecoat Systems. When it was reported that their
Internet-monitoring equipment had been re-sold to the Syrian government, a
senior VP told<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203687504577001911398596328.html>the
*Wall Street Journal*, "We don't want our products to be used by the
government of Syria or any other country embargoed by the United States."

For all the evil of Syria's regime, it's hard to ignore the role and often
the complicity of Western technology companies that can sometimes act as
dictator's little helper. While Syria's use of surveillance has been
particularly egregious and well-documented, this problem goes far beyond
just one country. For years, Western firms have been selling surveillance
equipment to the most brutal regimes. And while sales to Syria often
violate sanctions policy, such companies can sell to many other
authoritarian countries -- many of them U.S. and E.U. allies -- without
repercussions.


In pre-revolutionary Tunisia, surveillance firms
gave<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-22/torture-in-bahrain-becomes-routine-with-help-from-nokia-siemens-networking.html>
<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-22/torture-in-bahrain-becomes-routine-with-help-from-nokia-siemens-networking.html>
discounts<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-22/torture-in-bahrain-becomes-routine-with-help-from-nokia-siemens-networking.html>to
a government agency because the firms wanted to use the country for
testing and bug-tracking. The technology was so advanced that it prompted
the post-revolutionary head of the Tunisian government's Internet agency to
<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704438104576219190417124226.html>
remark<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052748704438104576219190417124226.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFpg-smFytMWUuBK9KsDCFhbv32Tw>,
"I had a group of international experts from a group here lately, who
looked at the equipment and said: 'The Chinese could come here and learn
from you.'"


In Bahrain, dozens of political activists have
testified<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-12/tunisia-after-revolt-can-alter-e-mails-with-big-brother-software.html>that
the security officers who detained and beat them also read transcripts
of their text messages and emails likely gathered from technology purchased
from Germany-based Trovicor <http://trovicor.com/>, a former Nokia Siemens
subsidiary. According to *Bloomberg* *News*, a spokesman for the latter
confirmed<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-12/tunisia-after-revolt-can-alter-e-mails-with-big-brother-software.html>the
sale and maintenance of this equipment to the Bahraini government.

"The bulk of this digital arms trade happens under the radar.

Qaddafi's regime was later found to have spied on *Al Jazeera* journalist
Khaled Mehiri by monitoring his emails and Facebook messages
using<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203764804577056230832805896.html>
<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203764804577056230832805896.html>
technology<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203764804577056230832805896.html>made
by French company Amesys. Mehiri was later interrogated and threatened
by the head of Libya's intelligence service. The reporters who found
Mehiri's surveillance file in Tripoli's abandoned Internet monitoring
center discovered similar files on many other journalists, human rights
advocates, and democratic activists.


The mass surveillance industry is a large one -- estimates now
put<http://owni.eu/2011/12/01/spyfiles-wikileaks-revelations-of-mass-internet-surveillance/>the
global market at $5 billion per year. The businesspeople getting rich
from the crackdown industry don't often talk to the media, but some of the
few who do can seem less than concerned about their potential role in their
clients' violence.


Jerry Lucas is the president of Telestragies Inc, the company that runs ISS
World, the trade show circuit (also known as the "Wiretapper's Ball") that
brings these companies and their clients together. Asked by the
*Guardian*<http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/nov/01/governments-hacking-techniques-surveillance>in
November if he would be comfortable knowing that regimes in Zimbabwe
and
North Korea were purchasing the technology from his trade shows, he
responded, "That's just not my job to determine who's a bad country and
who's a good country." He added, "That's not our business, we're not
politicians ... we're a for-profit company. Our business is bringing
governments together who want to buy this technology."


<http://www.theatlantic.com/special-report/democracy>This is the crux of
the problem: These companies seem fully aware of what they're doing - after
all, the better they understand how to help secret police find and
terrorize  dissidents, the better their products will do on the market --
but far less concerned about the implications. As Dutch member of the E.U.
Parliament Marietje Schaake told us last week, "The bulk of this digital
arms trade happens under the radar; through spin-offs of well-known
companies, but mostly by players without a reputation to lose with
consumers."


Schaake, who has been leading an effort in Europe to halt the sale of
surveillance technologies to repressive regimes, helped pass E.U. export
restrictions to some government actors in Syria. In the U.S., Rep. Chris
Smith introduced<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-09/house-bill-would-ban-surveillance-gear-sales-by-american-firms.html>a
bill in the House that would require American companies listed on the
stock exchange to report to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission on
how they conduct due diligence on human rights issues.


Unfortunately, apart from the work of a few individuals, this problem has
gone mostly ignored by Western governments, and the digital surveillance
trade still seems to be flourishing. Congress, the E.U., and the U.N. all
have the ability act -- by requiring the relevant companies to at least
transparently evaluate whether or not their technology is aiding in human
rights abuses, if not banning those sales outright -- but so far, even as
dozens of Syrians die every day, they haven't.

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From syverson at itd.nrl.navy.mil  Tue Mar  6 20:14:39 2012
From: syverson at itd.nrl.navy.mil (Paul Syverson)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 23:14:39 -0500
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
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On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:15:58PM -0500, Mansour Moufid wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Paul Syverson <syverson at itd.nrl.navy.mil> wrote:
> > I'm a mere four years behind in putting my work up on the web, and
> > this one wasn't co-authored so nobody else did either. I'll try to do
> > something about that in my copious free time this week and send a
> > link.
> 
> Please do, this attack you mention is one I've been very interested
> in. I'm sure many others would also love to read more about it.
> 
I'll try to get to it soon.

> It's time the myth of the GPA was challenged. I don't think active
> correlation attacks can be defended against, but I think they can at
> least be detected.

Actually there are many papers over the last several years (e.g., at
ACM CCS and Info Hiding) showing that one can place undetectable
timing channels on flows (for some schemes provably undetectable for
others practically undetectable).  But passive correlation is adequate
anyway, even at very low sampling rates (cf. Murdoch and Zielinski,
PETS 2007). This is long known and well understood. It's why we have
always said that onion routing resists traffic analysis not traffic
confirmation.

-Paul
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From mk at dee.su  Tue Mar  6 15:18:01 2012
From: mk at dee.su (Maxim Kammerer)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 01:18:01 +0200
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 23:04, Paul Syverson <syverson at itd.nrl.navy.mil> wrote:
> The suggestion was that people _stop_ working on
> defeating the GPA, which is unrealistic as both too strong (global)
> and too weak (passive).

While this may be true in the theoretical sense, it doesn't mean that
one can't make correlation attacks less practical. I find it hard to
believe that right now NSA, for instance, has Tor traffic analysis
tightly integrated into its worldwide communications sniffing
framework, simply because it's too much of a logistic problem, and
anonymous networks are unlikely to be sufficiently high-profile
targets so as to warrant expending the resources to deal with the
logistics (yet). But I think that it is entirely believable that NSA
has a dedicated project (even if only for research purposes) where the
traffic from all known relays (a relatively stable pool of ~3000
nodes?) is sniffed and analyzed b that would be relatively simple to
setup and maintain, given the unlimited interception capabilities. And
you can combat the latter b by extending and popularizing the entry
bridges concept, implementing exit bridges, making all clients relays
by default (even if that won't contribute significant bandwidth), etc.

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From owend at he.net  Wed Mar  7 01:53:47 2012
From: owend at he.net (Owen DeLong)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 01:53:47 -0800
Subject: [ipv6hackers] IPv6 prefix changing
Message-ID: <mailman.3291.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

It isn't law (yet) in Germany, but, since many of the ISPs there think that it is, it might as well be.

Also, likely it will become a law, especially if a significant fraction of ISPs don't implement it without one.

It's really unfortunate, because the recommendation is actually more concerned about the suffix portion than the prefix portion and states that it should be up to the subscriber's preference.

However, like most recommendations, it suffers from the telephone game (the more parties involved in relaying a message, the more mutated the message becomes) and the human tendency towards over-simplification creates an implementation attitude of simply forcing periodic prefix changes to "satisfy German privacy laws".

IMHO, better would be to default to a static prefix, inform customers of the option of using privacy addresses (non-MAC based SLAAC addresses) which are now default (unfortunately) on Windows and MacOS anyway. Offer customers that want a dynamic prefix the option. This should satisfy German privacy concerns while still allowing most customers to get sane IPv6 deployments.

Owen

On Mar 6, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Alex List wrote:

> According to [1] there's no such law in Germany. Btw, if someone could
> point me out where one could find such law in any country, I would be very
> thankful.
> 
> @Sara: try to search for 'dynamic prefix nanog'
> 
> Regards, Alex
> 
> Refs:
> [1]
> http://www.datenschutz-hamburg.de/uploads/media/IPv6_Aufsatz_in_MMR-08-2011.pdf,
> page 5: "Regulierung der Adressvergabe"
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From AllegraUlmer at mail.com  Tue Mar  6 23:28:19 2012
From: AllegraUlmer at mail.com (NickyBrydges)
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From the.raccoon23 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  6 20:55:54 2012
From: the.raccoon23 at gmail.com (The23rd Raccoon)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 04:55:54 +0000
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
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On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Seth David Schoen <schoen at eff.org> wrote:
> andrew at torproject.is writes:
>
> I was concerned that the graphic should not make people think that
> _no one_ can ever associate them with their browsing when they use
> Tor.  I've been taught to think of the GPA threat (and other traffic
> correlation threats) as real, so I thought people should have some
> indication of those threats.

Now bear in mind that I'm just a Raccoon, but some time ago I scrawled
a proof out that showed that the correlation accuracy of a "dragnet
GPA" goes down in proportion to the square of the number of concurrent
users using an anonymization service:
http://archives.seul.org/or/dev/Sep-2008/msg00016.html

The belief that you can test a correlation system independent of a
population size is called the Base Rate Fallacy, and I believe much of
the PETS timing attack literature suffers from it. In that post I
demonstrated the effect the Fallacy has on dragnet correlation. I also
gave some example calculations for how accuracy changes from different
points of network surveillance with respect to population size and
correlation accuracy.

With end-to-end encryption and proper Tor cell size choice, the NSAs
odds of watching everyone all the time (Example 1 in my post) and
getting the correlation right are low and do clearly drop as more
people use Tor.

Therefore, I think the most accurate representation would be to put a
question mark next to the data link between the two NSA dudes in your
graphic, because they aren't exactly sharing perfectly; they are
consulting each other, correlating observed traffic patterns with some
error rate, and rolling the dice. A question mark captures this well.

Putting "Capabilities Uncertain" underneath the question mark or as a
footnote might be even better, if we already have newspaper articles
citing the graphic as proof Tor is broken...


P.S. To the list administrators, it looks like the new archives have
truncated my proof at the new archive:
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2008-September/002493.html
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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:57:35 +0100
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:17:11 +0100
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 12:21:36 -0500
Subject: [tahoe-dev] Instant messaging.
Message-ID: <mailman.3293.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

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author, Pekka Riikonen.
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SILC was a really cool project.

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From mikeperry at torproject.org  Wed Mar  7 12:27:53 2012
From: mikeperry at torproject.org (Mike Perry)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 12:27:53 -0800
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
Message-ID: <mailman.3294.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Thus spake Paul Syverson (syverson at itd.nrl.navy.mil):

> > It's time the myth of the GPA was challenged. I don't think active
> > correlation attacks can be defended against, but I think they can at
> > least be detected.
> 
> Actually there are many papers over the last several years (e.g., at
> ACM CCS and Info Hiding) showing that one can place undetectable
> timing channels on flows (for some schemes provably undetectable for
> others practically undetectable).

Thanks to Mark Klein, we know that the NSA wiretaps in the US are
passive in nature, not active. But who knows what they do to overseas
links and specific high-value targets...

> But passive correlation is adequate anyway, even at very low sampling
> rates (cf. Murdoch and Zielinski, PETS 2007). This is long known and
> well understood. It's why we have always said that onion routing
> resists traffic analysis not traffic confirmation.

I have to agree with the Raccoon here. I actually don't think Murdoch's
work demonstrated that sampling adversaries can adequately correlate
web-sized traffic.

It seems pretty clear to me that the typical sampling rate of 1/2048 did
not become effective until you were around O(100MB) in transfer. He
wrote that 1/500 became effective at around O(1MB) in transfer, but that
is still a bit above most web page sizes.

There is also the question of an extremely low concurrent flow count
compared to reality today. He used only 500 flows/hour to correlate,
where as at any given *second* O(10k) TCP connections are opened through
every gbit Tor node in operation today. He also used an artificial prior
distribution on connection sizes. Both of these properties alter the
event rate and thus the overall accuracy in the experimental results as
compared to reality.

I think we can agree that large video uploaders stick out like sore
thumbs (due to relative lack of upload traffic frequency), but I don't
think The Man can correlate millions of simultaneous web page views and
expect to have certainty over who is viewing what at all times. At some
point, you simply run out of differentiating bits to extract from size
and timing information to properly segment the userbase.

And as far as I know, no one has really considered the full impact of
userbase size on correlation in the research community (aside from the
Raccoon).



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From grarpamp at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 10:57:23 2012
From: grarpamp at gmail.com (grarpamp)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:57:23 -0500
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
Message-ID: <mailman.3295.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

> The nodes must reside in commercial data centers

Subject only to Tor's defenses, such as CIDR block restrictions, a
node is a node. Going with the USA idea: what if the FBI, in the
normal course of business, calls up all their local cable/dsl/fiber/cell
providers and has a few lines run to each office and outhouse
nationwide. Not enough nodes? Maybe they offer their workers free
internet access and give them a secure little 'router'. Or use
routing and vpn tricks to buy/borrow enough CIDR safe node IP's
from whoever and route them all back to a node farm for easier
management.

> the resulting possibility of discovering the interception framework
> employed

Only the node list needs to be classified against FOIA to prevent
blockage. Once the tech is figured out to the point that product
is producible, the remaining thing is what can be legally done with
it all. Warrantless and dragnet tap projects are holding up pretty
well so far, right? Certainly targeted actions are no problem.

> run untrusted software (including necessarily modified Tor clients),
> all of which exposes them to hacking risks

No news of Tor daemons being cracked to date, right? Isn't Tor full
of nodes running all sorts of untrusted software under less than
perfect admin skills? It's pretty unlikely that 'chat room' busts
use Common Criteria systems either.


> But one could try correlating Tor relays and Tor clients growth
> graphs since, say, 2000 - if at some point there was a sharp
> growth in USA-located relays without a corresponding growth in
> total clients, and if those relays have similar bandwidth / data
> center quality capabilities, then that could be "The Man".

There is this thread for starters:

 http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Jun-2009/msg00253.html

I would also look to make sure the timing to a node makes sense
with its presumed geolocation. It should never be shorter than
possible, nor really much longer either.


Perhaps the threat is unlikely, but not impossible.
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From CharitaGreear at mail.com  Tue Mar  6 23:19:22 2012
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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 15:19:22 +0800
Subject: I need your opinion on this.
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From mk at dee.su  Wed Mar  7 06:43:03 2012
From: mk at dee.su (Maxim Kammerer)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:43:03 +0200
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
Message-ID: <mailman.3296.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 06:30, grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
> Setting aside the taps, what if half the 3000 nodes are 'The Man'?

I think that's quite unlikely. The nodes must reside in commercial
data centers and run untrusted software (including necessarily
modified Tor clients), all of which exposes them to hacking risks and
to the resulting possibility of discovering the interception framework
employed (which is probably not unique to Tor, so that's a huge risk).
But one could try correlating Tor relays and Tor clients growth graphs
since, say, 2000 b if at some point there was a sharp growth in
USA-located relays without a corresponding growth in total clients,
and if those relays have similar bandwidth / data center quality
capabilities, then that could be "The Man".

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From matteodellamico at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 07:52:19 2012
From: matteodellamico at gmail.com (Matteo Dell'Amico)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 16:52:19 +0100
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Nash equilibrium on p2p networks
Message-ID: <mailman.3297.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 07/03/2012 15:02, danimoth wrote:
> Il giorno mar, 06/03/2012 alle 16.34 +0000, Michael Rogers ha scritto:
> If you're modelling a DHT as a game then who are the players, what are
>> the possible strategies, what are the payoffs, how much do the players
>> know about each other's strategies and payoffs, and what strategy do
> you
>> want to encourage?
>>
> That's are the questions I'm asking to myself since first post, and
> looking to other's work (if exists) applied to p2p networks maybe could
> help me.

There's actually plenty of work on incentives to cooperation in P2P  
systems that can actually interest you. The keywords to look for in Google 
Scholar are probably "p2p incentives", "p2p reputation".

The papers about the topic that I like most are: "Incentives build  
robustness in BitTorrent" by Bram Cohen (P2PEcon 2003) and "Sybilproof  
reputation mechanisms" by Alice Cheng and Eric Friedman (P2PEcon 2005).

I wrote my Ph.D. thesis on incentives to cooperation in P2P, and you might 
be interested in the Background chapter:  
http://www.disi.unige.it/person/DellamicoM/research/phd-thesis.pdf

cheers!

matteo
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From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:56:56 +0100
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
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From eugen at leitl.org  Wed Mar  7 08:58:32 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:58:32 +0100
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Nash equilibrium on p2p networks
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From eugen at leitl.org  Wed Mar  7 09:19:55 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 18:19:55 +0100
Subject: AG Sort of Explains When and Why the President Could Drop a
  Bomb 	on You
Message-ID: <20120307171955.GJ9891@leitl.org>

(you keep using that word. it doesn't mean what you think it means.
also, furriners are never out of season, apparently)

http://www.loweringthebar.net/2012/03/ag-sort-of-explains-when-and-why-the-president-could-drop-a-bomb-on-you.html

AG Sort of Explains When and Why the President Could Drop a Bomb on You

In case you missed it, the Attorney General of the United States spent a
little time yesterday discussing the circumstances under which the President
could order your death without having a trial or even having charged you with
any crime.

I just wrote that sentence myself, and I still keep re-reading it, thinking
"that can't be true."

I wrote this up in more detail yesterday over at Forbes, where as you may
have noticed I tend to post (or initially post) things masquerading as more
serious items. "Attorney General Explains Why It's Okay to Kill U.S. Citizens
Without a Trial," Forbes.com (Mar. 5, 2012); see also "You Say 'Indefinite
Military Detention of Citizens Like It's a Bad Thing," Forbes.com (Dec. 7,
2011). I do think there are some decent lines in yesterday's post, although
maybe not as good as Jonathan Turley's crack about the same speech: "The good
news is that Holder promised not to hunt citizens for sport."

I think that's a pretty good summary. The lowlights of the speech, I think,
were Holder's promise that no citizen would be blown up unless the government
had determined (among other things) "that the individual poses an imminent
threat of violent attack against the United States," and his somewhat unusual
definition of "due process."

First, it turns out that "imminent" doesn't mean what you think it means (or
what the dictionary thinks it means). Rather, the concept "incorporates
considerations of the relevant window of opportunity to act, the possible
harm that missing the window would cause to civilians, and the likelihood of
heading off future disastrous attacks against the United States." If you see
anything in there that has to do with being "imminent," please let me know.
The "future" is a big place, and just because something might be in it does
not make that thing "imminent." Major Kong rides the bomb in Dr. Strangelove
Not quite on point, but a great picture anyway

Second, Holder did promise that nobody would be killed without "due process."
Comforting! But no! Because this also doesn't mean what you think it means.
"'Due process' and 'judicial process' are not one and the same," Holder said,
"particularly when it comes to national security. The Constitution guarantees
due process, not judicial process." Oh. So what process are we due? Executive
process. But have no fear, you won't be put on a death list without a
"thorough and careful review" of the (secret) evidence against you by the
Executive Branch, Holder basically promised. So there's really no need to get
those other branches involved. Let's just keep this between us.

Again, more details in the Forbes post, here.




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From eugen at leitl.org  Wed Mar  7 11:47:49 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 20:47:49 +0100
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
Message-ID: <20120307194749.GQ9891@leitl.org>

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From eugen at leitl.org  Wed Mar  7 11:58:46 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 20:58:46 +0100
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Nash equilibrium on p2p networks
Message-ID: <20120307195846.GR9891@leitl.org>

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From grarpamp at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 23:37:23 2012
From: grarpamp at gmail.com (grarpamp)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 02:37:23 -0500
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
Message-ID: <mailman.3298.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

> Thanks to Mark Klein, we know that the NSA wiretaps in the US are
> passive in nature, not active.

We know that *back then* *one* of their possible tap systems was
passive. All thanks due of course.

> But who knows what they do [...]

... today, to whoever.


> I don't think The Man can correlate millions of simultaneous web
> page views and expect to have certainty over who is viewing what
> at all times. At some point, you simply run out of differentiating
> bits to extract from size and timing information to properly
> segment the userbase.

It's now possible to do well timed rx/tx at 10Gb line rate on a
single commodity system (FreeBSD, Linux)...

http://www.ntop.org/products/nprobe/

http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/netmap/
http://www.ntop.org/products/pf_ring/

http://www.ntop.org/blog/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Time_Protocol
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From grarpamp at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 23:38:17 2012
From: grarpamp at gmail.com (grarpamp)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 02:38:17 -0500
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
Message-ID: <mailman.3299.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

> I think that it is important to differentiate national security
> and law enforcement here.

Yes. They are two separate camps. Who now more regularly talk with
each other to varying degrees, both in the office, and in the pub.

It's likely only a legal question as to what tools either may use.
Then saying, 'hey, we have this program', seems not a big deal.

> yet FBI is apparently unable to locate members of pedophile
> networks who use Tor

Based on 4+ year old methods up against a first time case.
What were the lessons learned? What gaps are being filled?

> National security agencies, on the other hand, have to think about
> the "big picture", and would not put their methods of work in
> danger of disclosure

Of course. That's why I put out possible examples that would only
utilize publicly known methods. There are no secrets in anonbib.

> or indulge in otherwise risky behavior (routing tricks and the
> like, which can be discovered by regular employees).

Secret projects have secret nets with secret admins...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Worldwide_Intelligence_Communications_System


I'm not really suggesting that any such global or national all
seeing system is in place. Only that given budgets and current tech,
the odds are surely not zero on some of the scenarios.

Particularly concerning results available even with limited visibility.
Such as running both a HS and an entry node that a user happens to
use. Or running enough nodes that having an interesting circuit
transit all three/six is less than a rare occurance.


Scaling Note: If the network needs to scale, such as keeping nodes
very busy but not saturated, non-exit relay by default (NE-RBD)
could be metered out by way of a client self enabling it (or whatever
other scale factor) based on the client's/relay's own fingerprint.
Whether driven by release or net consensus: 0-9a-g = on, h-z = off
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From jamesd at echeque.com  Wed Mar  7 11:48:50 2012
From: jamesd at echeque.com (James A. Donald)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 05:48:50 +1000
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Nash equilibrium on p2p networks
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On 2012-03-08 1:52 AM, Matteo Dell'Amico wrote:
> On 07/03/2012 15:02, danimoth wrote:
>> Il giorno mar, 06/03/2012 alle 16.34 +0000, Michael Rogers ha scritto:
>> If you're modelling a DHT as a game then who are the players, what are
>>> the possible strategies, what are the payoffs, how much do the players
>>> know about each other's strategies and payoffs, and what strategy do
>> you
>>> want to encourage?
>>>
>> That's are the questions I'm asking to myself since first post, and
>> looking to other's work (if exists) applied to p2p networks maybe could
>> help me.
>
> There's actually plenty of work on incentives to cooperation in P2P
> systems that can actually interest you. The keywords to look for in
> Google Scholar are probably "p2p incentives", "p2p reputation".
>
> The papers about the topic that I like most are: "Incentives build
> robustness in BitTorrent" by Bram Cohen (P2PEcon 2003) and "Sybilproof
> reputation mechanisms" by Alice Cheng and Eric Friedman (P2PEcon 2005).

Available at http://www.ee.ucl.ac.uk/~mrio/papers/infocom09.pdf

I would summarize their proposal as ripple for bittorrent with a routing  
algorithm.

The paper fails to consider the UI for managing reputation information, or 
the UI for finding and identifying services

With a method for finding torrents and information about torrents, would  
be a major improvement on bittorrent, since it provides seeding incentive.
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From: the.raccoon23 at gmail.com (The23rd Raccoon)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 07:52:57 +0000
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
Message-ID: <mailman.3301.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Mike Perry <mikeperry at torproject.org> wrote:

> You know, in hindsight, I don't want to sound like I'm hating on Steven
> or his work. His work was quite clear along all of the dimensions I am
> talking about, and was excellent research.
>
> He in fact did even compare 500 flows/hour to 50 flows/hour and found
> that the success rate did drastically improve, implicitly acknowledging
> and measuring the relationship between event rate and accuracy.

Yes. Murdoch's work was quite informative, one of the more palatable
dumpster morsels I've happened across.

If you draw a line straight down figure 5(a) of [1] at 10k packets,
you actually can see the effect of the base rate fallacy right there.
As his concurrent flow count increases, the P(M|C) (which he calls
P(correct target)) rate drops rather quickly. I bet if you got the
actual P(C|M) values and adjusted the units appropriately, you'd find
a 1/M^2 in there.

George Danezis claimed in [2] that the best-match decision process of
modern classifiers eliminates the quadratic 1/M^2 drop-off, but I
don't believe that to be the case. I think that experimentally you'll
find that your best-match classifier performs worse when you throw
more items at it, just as Murdoch did. This effect is also seen in
authorship classification work. The more authors you try to correlate,
the worse off your rankings are. In fact, the last time I checked,
state of the art text classification currently breaks down at around
just 100 authors, using a best-match classifier.


[1]. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sjm217/papers/pet07ixanalysis.pdf
[2].
https://conspicuouschatter.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/the-base-rate-fallacy-and-the-traffic-analysis-of-tor/
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From eugen at leitl.org  Wed Mar  7 23:24:30 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 08:24:30 +0100
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
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From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar  8 02:05:09 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:05:09 +0100
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
Message-ID: <20120308100509.GH9891@leitl.org>

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From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar  8 02:05:42 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:05:42 +0100
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
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Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 19:54:37 -0800
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012, at 04:20 PM, Seth David Schoen wrote:
> andrew at torproject.is writes:
> 
> > The GPA is in every paper on the topic. But only Seth has the real
> > answer.
> 
> I was concerned that the graphic should not make people think that
> _no one_ can ever associate them with their browsing when they use
> Tor.  I've been taught to think of the GPA threat (and other traffic
> correlation threats) as real, so I thought people should have some
> indication of those threats.

Why do you assume that the NSA can break Tor but not HTTPS?

As I see it, if you extrapolate the timing attack literature to justify
ignoring fixing active attacks, why do you not extrapolate the work on
RSA key cracking to assume that the NSA can factor popular website keys
in bathtubs full of DNA?

Or, at the very least, why not extrapolate it to the NSA compromising
one of the 1000-some wildcard root certificates your own SSL Observatory
scan has detected?

This paywall (ie non-"dumpster available") abstract appears to indicate
that the research community is within striking distance of factoring an
RSA keys in use by many HTTPS servers today. At least, when compared to
how close timing attack research is to breaking Tor.
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=1435370

I guess I'm just wondering: where do we draw the line?

In addition to the decentralized HTTPS certificate observatory, one
could imagine a network verifying the DH parameters are the same when
received by two endpoints of an HTTPS session. If perfect forward
secrecy is universally deployed, a bathtub full of DNA or server
compromise that yielded an RSA private key for google.com could be used
transparently to escape your decentralized observatory scan, but a
DH-recording scanning network will still see different DH parameters at
the endpoints.

But how do deploy such a network? Is planetlab up to the task? Is anyone
studying endpoint consensus on DH parameters? Shouldn't they be?

It seems like our rabbit hole is very deep. Do we really have what it
takes to watch the watchers?

I fucking hope so, but it does seem that consensus reality wrt
cryptographic security is hard to establish.

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From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar  8 13:29:32 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 22:29:32 +0100
Subject: [liberationtech] Pakistan's Firewall: Need your help and
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From sana at bolobhi.org  Thu Mar  8 10:31:39 2012
From: sana at bolobhi.org (Sana Saleem)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 23:31:39 +0500
Subject: [liberationtech] Pakistan's Firewall: Need your help and support
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Hi all,

There's been significant media coverage of the impending internet
censorship plans by Pakistan's Government. The anti-censorship campaign has
been able to garner support from national and international organizations.
The positive news is that, we were able to push the government to extend
the tender closing date, for URL filtering and blocking system, from 1st of
March to the 16th of March. Our partners in the campaign, Business Human
Rights Resource Centre, were able to forward our petition and letter to
company CEO's  and we received commitments form:

-Websense
- Cisco
-Verizon
-Sandvine

They have committed not to bid for the URL filtering system. However,
Mcafee,ZTE , Huawei, Bluecoat has not responded. We are now getting very
close to the tender closing date and have entered a crucial phase in the
campaign. We believe at this point it would be most beneficial to keep
building pressure.

- Getting businesses with investments in Pakistan to speak up and write to
the Ministry of IT
- Getting media to focus on various aspects of the issues, including how
this could effectively turn online spaces as tools for surveillance, how
this would hurt the economy, academic paralysis and halt innovation.

We have put together a Press Kit, it is comprehensive and has basic info
that most of you might already be aware of, to inform journalists within
and outside of Pakistan about the situation and it's repercussions. Please
feel free to share, amongst your contacts:
http://bolobhi.org/press-release-public-statements/press-kit/national-url-filtering-blocking-system/


Here is a timeline for the campaign so far:
http://bolobhi.org/timeline-campaign-against-internet-censorship-in-pakistan/


Thank you and I would really appreciate your suggestions, feedback and
help,
Best,
Sana

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From martinobal at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 17:39:49 2012
From: martinobal at gmail.com (Martin Baldan)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:39:49 +0100
Subject: [tahoe-dev] General questions about TAHOE-LAFS,
	local filesystems and P2P.
Message-ID: <mailman.3305.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Hello,

I'm basically just a curious potential end user of this awesome technology.

I've read a couple of posts that got me thinking:

[Freedombox-discuss] Tahoe-LAFS is not a filesystem
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/freedombox-discuss/2011-November/003162.html

[tahoe-dev] "BitTorrent for storage" is a bad idea -- [p2p-hackers]
P2P file storage systems
https://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2011-February/006150.html


This is a little example of what I think a nice user experience could
be like, realistically (ie, assuming files and applications as
currently understood are still relevant):

I create a document, let's say a LibreOffice presentation. I save it.
I modify it and save it again. I right-click on it (or similar
procedure) and I can see that a copy is stored locally, another copy
is stored in an online server I pay for (fully encrypted), and a third
copy is stored in my laptop (or smartphone). They are all synced,
unobstrusively (I don't experience any latency, syncing just works in
the background).


Now, let's say I want to share this document with a friend. I open a
menu on the file (right click or whatever), select "share", select
friend (like in Google docs). Now he will have a notification that I
shared a document with him.  My friend right-clicks on this document
and he selects "follow this document". Now If I delete my document
later, my friend will still be able to see all the snapshots up to the
time I deleted it.

My friend likes the document, so he recommends that I publish it. So I
simply share it with a some popular swarm of peers.


My question is, where does Tahoe fit in this picture, if at all? I
mean, what would be the best way to merge local storage, single-user
distributed storage, F2F (like Tahoe seems to be) and full-scale P2P,
at the lowest level possible and in a transparent, but configurable,
way? Since Tahoe is not intended to fill all those roles, how could it
be combined with other services in order to produce a seamless user
experience? Should Tahoe be the manager and delegate to other
filesystems, should it be the other way around, should they coexist
and be managed by some upper layer?

And how does Tahoe relate right now with other projects such as
XtreemFS (very similar to Tahoe) , Camlistore (more emphasis on
metadata, less on duplication logistics), OneSwarm (privacy-preserving
P2P), Tribler (a trackerless Bittorrent), to name a few? I would say
XtreemFS is a direct competitor (but there could also be cooperation).
As for the others, maybe they could be somehow combined with Tahoe to
build an awesome user experience. What do you think?

Best,

 -Martin
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From m-- at gmx.com  Fri Mar  9 00:11:50 2012
From: m-- at gmx.com (Michael Rogers)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 08:11:50 +0000
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Nash equilibrium on p2p networks
Message-ID: <mailman.3306.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 07/03/12 20:05, James A. Donald wrote:
> If I understand the proposed system
> http://www.ee.ucl.ac.uk/~mrio/papers/infocom09.pdf correctly:
> 
> Every entity has a public key.
> 
> Leechers issue IOUs to seeders.  This creates a network of IOUs.  The
> pledgeroute software looks for ways to cancel out IOUs, thus honoring
> them - for example Ann seeds Bob, Bob seeds Carol, and Carol seeds Ann.
> 
> If your IOUs get cancelled out, your key gains reputation, causing your
> IOUs to be valued.
> 
> It is not clear to me how the sybil attack is avoided:  Is it that you
> only gain reputation with those benefiting from the cancellation?

If you consider a cluster of Sybils, the creator of the Sybils is free
to create any structure of IOUs within the cluster, and any structure of
IOUs from Sybils to non-Sybils. But IOUs from non-Sybils to Sybils can
only be created by non-Sybils, and that only happens when the Sybils
provide a service.

No matter how many Sybils a person creates, the total debt owed to them
by non-Sybils is limited by the total amount of service they provide. So
there's no advantage in creating Sybils. It's not impossible - it's just
pointless.

I think that's how it works, anyway - it's been a while since I read the
paper and I could be confusing it with the Sybilproof reputation
mechanisms paper Matteo mentioned.

Cheers,
Michael
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From syverson at itd.nrl.navy.mil  Fri Mar  9 07:51:39 2012
From: syverson at itd.nrl.navy.mil (Paul Syverson)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:51:39 -0500
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
Message-ID: <mailman.3307.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 11:14:39PM -0500, Paul Syverson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:15:58PM -0500, Mansour Moufid wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Paul Syverson <syverson at itd.nrl.navy.mil> wrote:
> > > I'm a mere four years behind in putting my work up on the web, and
> > > this one wasn't co-authored so nobody else did either. I'll try to do
> > > something about that in my copious free time this week and send a
> > > link.
> > 
> > Please do, this attack you mention is one I've been very interested
> > in. I'm sure many others would also love to read more about it.
> > 
> I'll try to get to it soon.

And there was a star in the east...
I actually updated my webpage, not as fully as I would like, but
I updated all the dead links and added about a dozen or so papers.
In particular there is now a link to the "Why I'm not an Entropist"
paper, the "Practical Vulnerabilities of the Tor Anonymity Network"
paper that Andrew asked me to post over a year ago, my recent
historical review "A Peel of Onion", etc. HTH.

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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar  9 02:13:51 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:13:51 +0100
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Nash equilibrium on p2p networks
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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar  9 02:17:53 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:17:53 +0100
Subject: [drone-list] New Meetup: Drone Journalism: Reporting from above
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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar  9 04:15:58 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 13:15:58 +0100
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar  9 04:40:14 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 13:40:14 +0100
Subject: [tahoe-dev] General questions about TAHOE-LAFS, local
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From cheeni at gmail.com  Fri Mar  9 10:02:05 2012
From: cheeni at gmail.com (Srini RamaKrishnan)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 19:02:05 +0100
Subject: [silk] [liberationtech] Pakistan's Firewall: Need your help and
	support
Message-ID: <mailman.3308.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Raj Shekhar <spamme at rajshekhar.net> wrote:
>
> Did not know India had a firewall in place.  I know that the ISPs are
> under the thumb of the government and will dance to whatever tune is
> played.  Is that what you are referring to?


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http://goo.gl/5EFlF (links to)

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/news/internet/Govt-to-set-up-a-national-internet-scanning-agency/articleshow/12066010.cms


Feb 28, 2012, 09.51AM IST
Govt to set up a national internet scanning agency

NEW DELHI/BARCELONA: The Government is setting up an internet scanning
agency which will monitor all web traffic passing through Internet
service providers in the country. The scanning agency to be called
'National Cyber Coordination Centre, will issue 'actionable alerts' to
government departments in cases of perceived security threats.

The move comes as the government has been unable to prevent many
terror attacks, in the absence of a credible internet scanning system.

According to the minutes of a meeting held on February 3, 2012, at the
National Security Council Secretariat under the Prime Minister's
Office, a National Cyber Coordination Centre will 'also scan cyber
traffic flowing at the point of entry and exit at India's
international internet gateways.'

The web scanning centre will provide 'actionable alerts for proactive
actions' to be taken by government departments.

All government departments will now talk to the Internet Service
Providers such as Bharti Airtel, Reliance Communication, BSNL, MTNL
and Tata Communications through NCCC for real time information and
data on threats.

According to sources, government is planning to invest about Rs 800
crore in the setup. "The coordination centre will be the first layer
of threat monitoring in the country. It would always be in virtual
contact with the control room of the Internet Service Providers," the
Deputy National Security Advisor Vijay Latha Reddy said, as per
minutes of the meeting.

The government is collating manpower requirements for the centre currently.

"At present, the monitoring of web traffic is done by Centre for
Development of Telematics ( C-DoT) which has installed its equipments
at the premises of ISPs and gateways," informs Rajesh Chharia,
President at association of Internet service providers.

All tweets, messages, emails, status updates and even email drafts
will now pass through the new scanning centre. The centre may probe
further into any email or social media account if it finds a perceived
threat.

India's National Security Council Secretariat (NCSC) has asked various
departments to assess their needs for officials, who will coordinate
with the scanning agency. The National Security Council handles the
political, nuclear, energy and strategic security concerns of the
country.

As per the minutes seen by ET, Defence Research and Development
Organization (DRDO) officials were of the view that there is no
perfect system. "There is always an element of risk in using ICT.
Efforts should be focused on reducing cyber security vulnerabilities,"
DRDO said.

The meeting was attended by officials from DRDO, intelligence bureau,
Indian Army, Ministry of Home Affairs, Indian Navy, Department of IT,
National Technical Research Organization (NTRO), Telecom Department
and Computer Emergency Response Teams of various departments.

Internet scanning policy is followed in many countries. In US, the
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) scans the internet for keywords
such as 'virus', 'bomb', or 'collapse.' The DHS sets up fake social
media and Twitter accounts to scan the internet. Iran uses web
surveillance to suppress dissidents.

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From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 19:41:06 +0100
Subject: [silk] [liberationtech] Pakistan's Firewall: Need your help
  	and support
Message-ID: <20120309184106.GS9891@leitl.org>

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From congratulatel1 at reavey-ni.com  Fri Mar  9 23:09:28 2012
From: congratulatel1 at reavey-ni.com (=?koi8-r?B?4sDE1sXUydLP18HOycU=?=)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:09:28 +0800
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From zooko at zooko.com  Sat Mar 10 16:55:19 2012
From: zooko at zooko.com (Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:55:19 -0800
Subject: [tahoe-dev] Boulder Hack Fest!
Message-ID: <mailman.3309.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Folks:

Let's have a Hack Fest in Boulder, Colorado, and on the Internet on
the weekend of March 30! David-Sarah will be in town, visiting LAE
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family will drive over from Kansas City. If anybody else wants to
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to get access to a big enough conference room, and map out crash space
on our floor. I know Jean Lorchat wants to be linked in over the
Internet. If anybody else wants that, let me know.

Regards,

Zooko
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From: morlockelloi at yahoo.com (Morlock Elloi)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:55:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: <nettime> What do you think about .art?
Message-ID: <mailman.3310.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

DNS and ICANN and such are on their way out. Private namespaces are back.

The assumption - that, for example, xyz.com *must* resolve to the same IP number wherever the query is done - went curiously unchallenged for a long time. Now, seriously, why is it so important that google.com means the same in New Zealand and Czech Republic? Where is this notion that the planet needs the globally unique name space coming from? What makes it "good" (hint - you can't use Google, Inc. profits as an argument) ? 

Historically, only the state insisted on unique identifiers, for its own needs.

The unique namespace is a terrible idea. It's a shit amplifier. It skips and disables local roadsigns and greatly reduces the number of roadsign posters. It's no wonder that ICANN attracts slimy thugs - a prospect that few can decide on global naming has attractiveness of a dung pile for flies miles away.

There are very good reasons for having things harder to find. A complex discovery process itself is a great moron filter. During the search you may find things and people you didn't look for.


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From nighat at bytesforall.pk  Sun Mar 11 00:41:12 2012
From: nighat at bytesforall.pk (nighat at bytesforall.pk)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:41:12 -0500
Subject: [liberationtech] Pakistan Firewall
Message-ID: <mailman.3311.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

You all may like to read something more on Pakistan Firewall.

http://futurechallenges.org/local/build-the-great-firewall-follow-the-masters/

Regards
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From moritz at torservers.net  Sun Mar 11 05:45:15 2012
From: moritz at torservers.net (Moritz Bartl)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:45:15 +0100
Subject: [liberationtech] Hackerbus: First Tour Dates: Switzerland, France,
	Spain, Portugal
Message-ID: <mailman.3312.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Hi Libtechs,

I was asked to keep this list updated every once in a while, and I am
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technology in Europe? Human rights activist? Journalist focussing on
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http://www.hackerbus.eu/blog/2012/03/11/first-tour-dates-switzerland-france-spain-portugal.html

I am excited to finally announce the beginning of my tour! As a
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* from March 18th, 2012: Switzerland
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References: <20120311093151.GO9891@leitl.org>
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From lee at royalgardens.us  Mon Mar 12 14:29:50 2012
From: lee at royalgardens.us (Lee @ Royal Gardens)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:29:50 -1000
Subject: Cryptome Downed
Message-ID: <CAAacbUeeJS1AyV49Oc+KXOV3Busfryo+7zHvTjzOun2kQ6opnA@mail.gmail.com>

Obviously, Downy, a feces company, does not comprehend that their client
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From lodewijkadlp at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 11:16:46 2012
From: lodewijkadlp at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?lodewijk_andr=C3=A9_de_la_porte?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:16:46 +0100
Subject: [info] <nettime> What do you think about .art?
In-Reply-To: <20120311093258.GQ9891@leitl.org>
References: <20120311093258.GQ9891@leitl.org>
Message-ID: <CAHWD2rLB+sfE2FkcULiiZM1wwKKzp13Z+7NODsZ+zhx-Ey4QMw@mail.gmail.com>

Morlock Elloi wrote:

>  A complex discovery process itself is a great moron filter.


How do we earn the moron's cash? Put kindly the duplication of brand names
will create confusion among non-technical users and from that confusion
will result a loss of income.

Besides why would I want google.com to lead elsewhere than what I expect it
to? Do I want to have to go through a DNS(-ish?) config procedure when I
want to show nyan cat at my friends house? What else than a unique name do
you want, 20Q? Good luck getting free from "slimy thugs".

Naturally we could don the DNS system and use onion-id style identifiers.
Good luck making the usability plea on that one. "Don't worry Google can
find it for you"? Not to mention we can already use IPv4/6 addresses
without DNS. Why don't you?

The only thing that really fucking frustrates me is the requirement of
"."'s in the name. Why not just accept any string as an ID? Why does Google
have to register Google.[com|org|net|nl|co.uk|be|sp|hu|etc.]? Why not just
"google" or "google"? Tie it right in with the brand-name protection stuff
we've got going on. They should've done that from the beginning. You
register your company, you get a unique address. Strip the "Inc", "AG",
"BV" and stick to the company name. There is some cross-business-type
problems, fix them by either appending a ".accounting" or by changing
names. Allow people to register addresses but override them if a business
comes in the way.

Why didn't they do it? Politics, man.

Seriously though, we should figure out a way of splitting the
responsibility for who gets what address. ICANN is now screwing that
bigtime by spamming gTLD's. Maybe we'll abandon them completely in the
future. I suspect the switch'll be quite painful.




From kb at karelbilek.com  Mon Mar 12 12:12:04 2012
From: kb at karelbilek.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Karel_B=EDlek?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:12:04 +0100
Subject: [info] <nettime> What do you think about .art?
In-Reply-To: <CAHWD2rLB+sfE2FkcULiiZM1wwKKzp13Z+7NODsZ+zhx-Ey4QMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20120311093258.GQ9891@leitl.org>
  <CAHWD2rLB+sfE2FkcULiiZM1wwKKzp13Z+7NODsZ+zhx-Ey4QMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGUkT8Yoa-nJDzMqxH024VNcM7HSyrRzk4Zm2pi1eYHs4yk2ew@mail.gmail.com>

I never understood how it works exactly, but what is wrong with namecoin?

(besides the fact that noone uses it)

2012/3/12 lodewijk andri de la porte <lodewijkadlp at gmail.com>:
> Morlock Elloi wrote:
>
>>  A complex discovery process itself is a great moron filter.
>
>
> How do we earn the moron's cash? Put kindly the duplication of brand names
> will create confusion among non-technical users and from that confusion
> will result a loss of income.
>
> Besides why would I want google.com to lead elsewhere than what I expect it
> to? Do I want to have to go through a DNS(-ish?) config procedure when I
> want to show nyan cat at my friends house? What else than a unique name do
> you want, 20Q? Good luck getting free from "slimy thugs".
>
> Naturally we could don the DNS system and use onion-id style identifiers.
> Good luck making the usability plea on that one. "Don't worry Google can
> find it for you"? Not to mention we can already use IPv4/6 addresses
> without DNS. Why don't you?
>
> The only thing that really fucking frustrates me is the requirement of
> "."'s in the name. Why not just accept any string as an ID? Why does Google
> have to register Google.[com|org|net|nl|co.uk|be|sp|hu|etc.]? Why not just
> "google" or "google"? Tie it right in with the brand-name protection stuff
> we've got going on. They should've done that from the beginning. You
> register your company, you get a unique address. Strip the "Inc", "AG",
> "BV" and stick to the company name. There is some cross-business-type
> problems, fix them by either appending a ".accounting" or by changing
> names. Allow people to register addresses but override them if a business
> comes in the way.
>
> Why didn't they do it? Politics, man.
>
> Seriously though, we should figure out a way of splitting the
> responsibility for who gets what address. ICANN is now screwing that
> bigtime by spamming gTLD's. Maybe we'll abandon them completely in the
> future. I suspect the switch'll be quite painful.




From ragoutsatb2137 at riverboat.com  Mon Mar 12 17:18:32 2012
From: ragoutsatb2137 at riverboat.com (=?koi8-r?B?z8LSwdrFwyDCydrOxdMg0MzBzsE=?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:18:32 -0300
Subject: =?koi8-r?B?9d7Fws7ZyiDL1dLTOuLJ2s7F0yDQzMHOLCD0/O8sIJYg0sHa0sHCz9TL?=
	=?koi8-r?B?wSDJIMHOwczJ2i4=?=
Message-ID: <000d01cd00ae$d2c7a060$6400a8c0@ragoutsatb2137>



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From visgean at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 14:41:56 2012
From: visgean at gmail.com (Visgean Skeloru)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:41:56 +0100
Subject: [info] <nettime> What do you think about .art?
In-Reply-To: <CAGUkT8Yoa-nJDzMqxH024VNcM7HSyrRzk4Zm2pi1eYHs4yk2ew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20120311093258.GQ9891@leitl.org> 
  <CAHWD2rLB+sfE2FkcULiiZM1wwKKzp13Z+7NODsZ+zhx-Ey4QMw@mail.gmail.com> 
  <CAGUkT8Yoa-nJDzMqxH024VNcM7HSyrRzk4Zm2pi1eYHs4yk2ew@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPy44ZWhsHZX0g5sxO8WyNyMa0wRBS-swT3aQAn8fwQv069JCw@mail.gmail.com>

Well that would be the problem of all these dns alternatives, nobody uses
them. After the IPv6 will spread things will probably change slightly, as
there will be more demand for cheaper yet safe dns.

2012/3/12 Karel BC-lek <kb at karelbilek.com>

> I never understood how it works exactly, but what is wrong with namecoin?
>
> (besides the fact that noone uses it)
>
> 2012/3/12 lodewijk andri de la porte <lodewijkadlp at gmail.com>:
> > Morlock Elloi wrote:
> >
> >>  A complex discovery process itself is a great moron filter.
> >
> >
> > How do we earn the moron's cash? Put kindly the duplication of brand
> names
> > will create confusion among non-technical users and from that confusion
> > will result a loss of income.
> >
> > Besides why would I want google.com to lead elsewhere than what I
> expect it
> > to? Do I want to have to go through a DNS(-ish?) config procedure when I
> > want to show nyan cat at my friends house? What else than a unique name
> do
> > you want, 20Q? Good luck getting free from "slimy thugs".
> >
> > Naturally we could don the DNS system and use onion-id style identifiers.
> > Good luck making the usability plea on that one. "Don't worry Google can
> > find it for you"? Not to mention we can already use IPv4/6 addresses
> > without DNS. Why don't you?
> >
> > The only thing that really fucking frustrates me is the requirement of
> > "."'s in the name. Why not just accept any string as an ID? Why does
> Google
> > have to register Google.[com|org|net|nl|co.uk|be|sp|hu|etc.]? Why not
> just
> > "google" or "google"? Tie it right in with the brand-name protection
> stuff
> > we've got going on. They should've done that from the beginning. You
> > register your company, you get a unique address. Strip the "Inc", "AG",
> > "BV" and stick to the company name. There is some cross-business-type
> > problems, fix them by either appending a ".accounting" or by changing
> > names. Allow people to register addresses but override them if a business
> > comes in the way.
> >
> > Why didn't they do it? Politics, man.
> >
> > Seriously though, we should figure out a way of splitting the
> > responsibility for who gets what address. ICANN is now screwing that
> > bigtime by spamming gTLD's. Maybe we'll abandon them completely in the
> > future. I suspect the switch'll be quite painful.
>



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From lodewijkadlp at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 15:36:30 2012
From: lodewijkadlp at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?lodewijk_andr=C3=A9_de_la_porte?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:36:30 +0100
Subject: [info] <nettime> What do you think about .art?
In-Reply-To: <CAGUkT8Yoa-nJDzMqxH024VNcM7HSyrRzk4Zm2pi1eYHs4yk2ew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20120311093258.GQ9891@leitl.org>
  <CAHWD2rLB+sfE2FkcULiiZM1wwKKzp13Z+7NODsZ+zhx-Ey4QMw@mail.gmail.com> 
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2012/3/12 Karel BC-lek <kb at karelbilek.com>

> I never understood how it works exactly, but what is wrong with namecoin?
>
> (besides the fact that noone uses it)
>

No domain name arbitration. If someone cybersquatted Microsoft.bit that'd
really suck. Maybe they'd have the means to go after them but I likely
wouldn't have.

(and it doesn't solve the dumb users don't get it problem. There's been
some really cool DNS providers integrating .bit to standard resolves
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From zooko at zooko.com  Tue Mar 13 14:32:56 2012
From: zooko at zooko.com (Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:32:56 -0700
Subject: [tahoe-dev] monitoring/visualization (was: What about this?)
Message-ID: <mailman.3313.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Ted Rolle, Jr. <stercor at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Or, is this functionality already built into Tahoe-LAFS?

What sort of monitoring functionality are you interested in, Ted? What
data do you want to see?

There is the "Download Performance Graphs" in the Tahoe client. Check
it out! It contains lots of information.

There is also the "/statistics" page served up by the Tahoe client
that shows a few statistics about uploads and downloads.

There are munin plugins in the source tree:

https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/browser/git/misc/operations_helpers/munin

I'm not sure, but I think that those plugins are the source of these
graphs of volunteergrid2:

https://vg2-stats.rosenkeller.org/

Least Authority Enterprises has set up some basic monitoring of our
services with zenoss:

https://monitoring.leastauthority.com

(username: guest, password: guest)

We haven't yet published the configuration and scripts that we use to
run that monitoring server. We intend to do so. If you care about such
details let us know on this list and this will encourage us to
prioritize publishing it.

A couple of tahoe-lafs contributors, Nejucomo Wilcox and Leif Ryge,
work at StatMover -- http://statmover.com/ -- which is making a
database and JavaScript visualization tool:
https://bitbucket.org/0x0000/saturnalia/wiki/Home I'd like to see
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seem fun to explore data in it.

So the first question from your perspective, Ted, is probably "What do
I want to know?".

Regards,

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From: jacob at appelbaum.net (Jacob Appelbaum)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:06:04 -0700
Subject: [liberationtech] New Satphone Safety Guide
Message-ID: <mailman.3314.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 03/13/2012 03:43 PM, Brian Conley wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm pleased to announce that we have released our newest guide, focusing on
> increasing satphone safety through best practices.
> 
> You can find the guide here:
> 
> http://smallworldnews.tv/Guide/Guide_SatPhone_English.pdf
> 
> comments, questions, and critiques much appreciated!
> 
> I will be writing a longer blog about the motivations and timeliness later
> this week. Also you can see Frank Smyth's comments here at CPJ.org:
> 
> http://cpj.org/blog/2012/03/from-small-world-timely-advice-on-safe-satphone-us.php
> 
> 
> 


Hi Brian,

Some thoughts in response to specific chunks of text from your pdf follow...

"If you communicate with someone outside the satphonebs service provider
network your communications are subject to any observation happening on
the other user. Communicating with other satphones from the same service
provider is much safer. Even this method is not entirely secure, but
following these basic steps will limit your risks."

This is a really weird statement. The first sentence is true. The second
is pretty subjective, I'd even say incorrect but there is some wiggle
room. The third is also a bit weird to the point of being incorrect.
Limit what risk? Risk in relation to whom? If someone is sniffing the
uplink for either phone, it's irrelevant to take such a step - it's
probably even irrelevant if your threat model includes the sat phone
provider as part of the adversary model.

"The time needed to connect with the network is the first
major security risk."

Sure - why is that though? Isn't it because 0) the beam pattern for
uplink 1) gps location being sent by the phone 2) the phone provider
knowing 0 & 1 and 3) the downlink? So really is it the time that is the
issue? Or what is done during that time?

"2.3 USING A SATPHONE, A WALKTHROUGH"

This walk through seems not entirely correct. For example 07 is not
really the full picture, is it it? Isn't that when the phone sends the
GPS data and not in step 10 as indicated?

"3.1 PHONE CONFISCATION"

I rather like this part of the guide.

"In some cases the authorities may have the proper equipment
to blisten inb on your transmissions, however this requires highly
advanced and sophisticated technology"

I think this is misleading. What country doesn't have the ability to do
this? It requires a fun cube dongle pro or a GNU Radio, a commercial
device or something else home brew - if a hacker at the CCC can do it,
it's not "highly advanced and sophisticated technology" in my opinion.
That isn't to say that it was easy, it's just that now that the work is
done - the code, the hardware and the rest of the information is
available for anyone who cares to try. That is not a high bar and it
would be misleading to suggest it.

"Your location may be logged at the service providerbs Ground Earth
Station (GES)"

Or anyone watching...

"Thurayabs encryption has been broken, and more advanced
governments may be able to break the encryption of other
satphones. To learn more see Section 6.2.2"

Which sat phone protocol isn't broken? I don't see a table for which
protocols or devices you mean to support with this guide - so it's not
clear why Thuraya is the security exception, rather than an example of
the insecurity rule.

"Voice calls are a very risky method for communicating via satellite."

All times when a user is associated with the network the user is at risk.

"It is best to keep your call under three minutes"

Why three?

"Email sent from your satphone does not provide the same protection as
Email sent via computer or mobile data plans."

While true, this implies that email is somehow secure, ever - which we
all know to be totally bogus, right?

"On some mobile phones and all computers Tor can be used to
anonymize your computers traffic and hide your identity and
location. If at all possible use a secure internet connection to
communicate, not a satphone."

Tor can't protect you from hardware that spies on you - if your sat
phone sends your GPS location, an attacker will know the exact location
of the user, even if they do not know what they are doing or saying.
This seems obvious but it is important to note - the GPS location is at
a different layer.

"Inmarsatbs iSatphonePro"

Why? Rheinmetall, trltech, and others intercept that by brand name. How
is that better than Thuraya? They're all doomed in terms of content
security and location privacy - why suggest those in that case?

For example, it seems odd to me that you did not mention the
Cryptophone[0] as an example of how to secure the content of the
communications - that is probably the only tool on the market right now
that has any such claim.  Combined with a Motorola 9501 Iridium
satellite pager[1], I think you could do something interesting that
actually improved the security of communications or at least assist in
solving the rendezvous problem.

The Motorola 9501 is entirely passive and so it can receive with a very
minimal view of the sky, it does not transmit your location from the
device, etc.

All the best,
Jacob

[0] http://www.cryptophone.de/en/products/satellite/
[1] http://www.outfittersatellite.com/iridium_9501.htm
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From brianc at smallworldnews.tv  Tue Mar 13 15:43:29 2012
From: brianc at smallworldnews.tv (Brian Conley)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:43:29 -0500
Subject: [liberationtech] New Satphone Safety Guide
Message-ID: <mailman.3315.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Hi all,

I'm pleased to announce that we have released our newest guide, focusing on
increasing satphone safety through best practices.

You can find the guide here:

http://smallworldnews.tv/Guide/Guide_SatPhone_English.pdf

comments, questions, and critiques much appreciated!

I will be writing a longer blog about the motivations and timeliness later
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http://cpj.org/blog/2012/03/from-small-world-timely-advice-on-safe-satphone-us.php

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From coderman at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 19:31:34 2012
From: coderman at gmail.com (coderman)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:31:34 -0700
Subject: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic
Message-ID: <mailman.3316.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Mike Perry <mikeperry at torproject.org> wrote:
> ...
> Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

my last comment for this sad, confused tangent of a thread;
  it has been accosted via conjecture with too much frequency *grin*


SCTP for congestion control of transparent proxy TCP/UDP traffic.
local classification of traffic allocates by protocol / use fairness
instead of aggregate tcp fairness. like bittorrent or aria2 parallel
traffic treated as distinct low priority unit of traffic, deferring to
higher priority low latency web traffic and messaging.

multi-homing / multi-path endpoints in SCTP would maintain concurrent
connection with distinct endpoints, avoiding predecessor, timing,
denial of service attacks present in reliable, ordered, single stream
transports.

edges would be screwed as you mention, unless they were full fledged
participants consistently. using a UDP based transport with LEDBAT or
other technique to keep broadband upstream unsaturated and unclogged
(no deep queues), allowing all broadband endpoints the ability to
contribute to a large shared network.

ORCHID IPv6 addressing with IPsec tunnels is intended to re-use
existing work, including well tested auth+privacy with datagram
padding in IPsec. SCTP+TLS would fit over top of IPv6 ORCHID endpoints
(using IPsec SAs) to transport signalling/keying and encapsulated
client traffic. part of this would also include lowest priority (lossy
reliable) SRMP type delivery of useful, less immediate information to
nodes. to some extent the ORCHID addresses could be thought of as
hidden service names and also circuit endpoints for a given IPsec
tunnel.

this set of:
a. critical signalling and keying traffic
b. high priority, interactive web traffic and messaging
c. lower priority bulk traffic, downloads, streaming media
d. best effort, latent bulk caching and exchange

are the classful shaping groups ordered inside of opaque SFQ outbound
queues at various improved/concurrent stratified dependent link
padding paths of IPsec telescopes carrying intermediate
hop(signalling) and bearer traffic.

combining better prioritization of traffic and consistent consumption
of traffic (deferring low priority packets and using opportunistic
caching strategies for network information respectively) obtains the
best performance out of the SFQ DLP paths with the lowest latency for
priority traffic.

still, so many details left as exercise for the reader ;)


> Do free reference implementations exist for all of these protocols?

sort of, for only parts; if you want a portable user space
implementation (or port) it's all custom. the joys of wild conjecture
include absurd timelines and technical effort for free...

rump is about as close as i've seen: http://www.netbsd.org/docs/rump/index.html

this is not the least of "how to deploy a thing like this" concerns.
there is also no backward compatibility or slow transition from an
existing Tor network to something using UDP encapsulated IPsec
telescopes (even if TCP can be transparently proxied over SCTP over
this).
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Цель:

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Для участия в курсе мы приглашаем как специалистов с многолетним опытом работы в сфере международного налогового планирования, стремящихся расширить область своих знаний, так и слушателей, еще не сталкивавшихся с иностранными юрисдикциями. Насыщенность материала конкретными примерами, взятыми из жизни, решение нестандартных и частных задач в ходе занятия, а также доступность объяснений относятся к неоспоримым достоинствам данного курса.

Важно отметить, что ведущий курса имеет не только многолетний опыт разработки и курирования крупных консалтинговых проектов, но также многократного участия в их реализации "под ключ" с последующим сопровождением. Это позволяет наполнить курс уникальным материалом, посвященным не только схемам оптимизации налогов, но и многочисленными практическими комментариями и описанием проблем, с которыми сталкивается бизнес, даже при выборе "правильных и выверенных" схем.

По ходу и после окончания курса будет предусмотрено время для индивидуальных вопросов как по заявленным темам, так и по вопросам, которые не предусматривала программа курса.

Оффшоры, Кипр и другие иностранные юрисдикции не являются налоговой панацеей, и в некоторых случаях их использование принесет лишь новые финансовые издержки и бессмысленные риски конфликтов с налоговыми органами. К счастью, таких случаев пока меньшинство.


Программа:

БЛОК 1. ОФФШОРЫ, НИЗКОНАЛОГОВЫЕ И ПРЕСТИЖНЫЕ ЕВРОПЕЙСКИЕ ЮРИСДИКЦИИ: КРИТЕРИИ ВЫБОРА.

* Сравнение популярных оффшорных юрисдикций (Британские Виргинские острова, Белиз, Сейшелы, Панама и т.д.) – от каких стоит отказаться и почему?

* Гонконг как инструмент работы с азиатским рынком

* Зачем использовать низконалоговые юрисдикции, если есть полностью безналоговые?

* Использование престижных юрисдикций: Швейцария, Люксембург, Нидерланды и т.д. – когда это обоснованно?

* "Черные списки" ФАТФ, ОЭСР, Минфина, ЦБ РФ – кому о них можно забыть?

БЛОК 2. ПРАКТИКА ИСПОЛЬЗОВАНИЯ КИПРСКИХ КОМПАНИЙ

* Особенности работы с кипрским администратором: как не дать себя обмануть?

 ** налог на прибыль (Corporate Income Tax), сбор на оборону (Defence Contribution Tax), НДС и применение “reverse charge” 

* Изменения кипрского законодательства 2012 и тенденции 2013.

* Ратификация Протокола к Соглашению между РФ и Кипром: кто понесет убытки, а кому удастся на этом заработать?

* Почему Кипр редко используют при экспорте/импорте товаров?

* Кипр как инструмент работы с ценными бумагами

БЛОК 3.СХЕМЫ, ПРИМЕНЯЕМЫЕ В МЕЖДУНАРОДНОМ НАЛОГОВОМ ПЛАНИРОВАНИИ

* Внешнеторговые операции (экспорт/импорт):

 ** схемы с использованием оффшоров и Гонконга;

 ** схемы с использование английских LTD и партнерств LLP;

 ** эстонские, чешские, датские, нидерландские компании в торговых схемах.

* Холдинговые структуры
 ** выплаты дивидендов и построение холдинговых структур;

 ** займы как оптимальный путь финансирования;

 **  (суб)лицензионные договоры и выплаты роялти за использование прав интеллектуальной собственности;

 ** анализ сложностей и рисков, расчет предельных величин отчислений по займам и роялти.

* Владение и сдача в аренду недвижимости с использованием нерезидентов

БЛОК 4. КОНФИДЕНЦИАЛЬНОСТЬ И НОМИНАЛЬНОЕ ВЛАДЕНИЕ

* Номинальный сервис:

 ** инструменты контроля номинальных директоров и номинальных акционеров;

 ** лица, которым будут известны имена бенефициаров;

* Какие данные о компании хранятся в публичных реестрах Кипра и оффшоров, и кто имеет к ним доступ?

* Обмен информацией – в каких случаях государственные органы РФ могут получить информацию о владельцах?

* Изменения в Гражданском Кодексе: бенефициар должен раскрыть себя сам.

* Трасты и семейные фонды – когда их использование оправдано?

* "Подводные камни" при использовании номинального сервиса и трастов/фондов.

БЛОК 5. ОТКРЫТИЕ СЧЕТОВ НА ИНОСТРАННЫЕ КОМПАНИИ

* Надежность, оперативность работы, лояльность – какой банк выбрать?

* Какие банки не делятся информацией с российскими спецслужбами?

* Раскрытие банковской тайны – факты и выводы

* Пути снятия средств со счета иностранного банка в России

* Росфинмониторинг: когда можно не опасаться?

БЛОК 6. ЧАСТО ЗАДАВАЕМЫЕ ВОПРОСЫ, СИТУАЦИИ ИЗ ПРАКТИКИ, ОБЗОР СУДОВ И ПИСЕМ МИНФИНА.

* Насколько международная структура владения защищает от рейдерских захватов?

* Как часто нужно предоставлять сертификат налогового резидентства и нужно ли проходить аудит для его выпуска?

* Ведет ли использование доверенностей с широким кругом полномочий  к возникновению постоянного представительства? Официальная позиция.

* Дает ли регистрация компании в ЕС возможность на привлечение кредитов и получение гражданства?

* Если компания не нужна: нужно ликвидировать или можно "бросить"?

* и т.д.

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From warner at lothar.com  Wed Mar 14 13:06:37 2012
From: warner at lothar.com (Brian Warner)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:06:37 -0700
Subject: [tahoe-dev] #466 (signed-introducer-announcements) landed!
Message-ID: <mailman.3317.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>


Thanks to Zooko's hard work in getting pycryptopp-0.6.0.(mumble)
released yesterday, I was finally able to land the #466
signed-introducer code last night. What does this mean for users?

* tahoe now depends upon the new pycryptopp: next time you update,
  you'll need to do 'setup.py build' so it will pick up 0.6.0

* the first time your node wakes up with the new code, it will create a
  NODEDIR/private/server.privkey file, containing the new Ed25519
  private signing key. This is a binary file, not meant for copy/paste
  or human interaction.

* server IDs are changing. The old (foolscap-based) IDs look like
  "rkybwv7hpuwpnyqhwjz43v727orr7fqd". Once everything is upgraded, the
  Welcome page will show new server IDs that look like
  "v0-fcmgu663rdyshncihts4e45rtwjwvc7ebcrtlaiv345yyps667pq". (the old
  ones are a SHA1 hash of the tub's public SSL certificate, the new ones
  are an Ed25519 public verifying key)


Internally, this opens up the door for a bunch of stuff:

* Introducer announcements are now extensible dictionaries, instead of
  fixed-size tuples. This allows servers to cleanly advertise new
  services, and include additional metadata like how much space they
  have available. This will be used by the upcoming Accounting work to
  advertise an alternate storage-server object from which per-account
  connections can be obtained. #666

* Announcements are signed, which means the Introducer doesn't get to
  modify the metadata, reducing its authority a little bit. This gets us
  one step closer to having a distributed introduction mechanism (the
  signed announcements can simply be flooded, without worrying about
  what the other nodes might do to them in transit). #68

* Server nodes are known by their Ed25519 public verifying key, rather
  than by their Foolscap SSL TubID. This enables secure non-SSL
  messaging (sign a request instead of sending unsigned requests over a
  validated-SSL connection), so we can switch from Foolscap to e.g. HTTP
  for share transport, which should make the Tahoe protocol easier to
  port to other languages (Foolscap offers more features than we really
  need, and its need to check the SSL certificate is an implementation
  hassle). #510

* Clients can securely reference a server by its pubkey, which will be
  the basis for explicit "which servers am I willing to use"
  configuration. #467, #295


What about compatibility? All combinations of V1/V2 client/introducer
should work as expected:

* new (V2) clients can talk to old (V1) Introducers just fine: they'll
  detect the lack of V2 methods and talk down to the introducer (sending
  it unsigned V1-format tuples instead of signed V2-format
  dictionaries).

* old V1 clients can talk to new V2 introducers: they send announcements
  to the old method name, the Introducer will upgrade the tuples to
  dictionaries (unsigned, of course) for distribution to V2 clients, and
  distributes the original tuple to V1 clients

* new V2 Introducers can talk to old V1 clients just fine: the client
  will subscribe with the old V1 method, causing the Introducer to
  downgrade new-style announcements for the V1 client

* V1 clients always get tuples, V2 clients always get dictionaries.
  *Signed* announcements will only happen when all three participants
  (announcing client, Introducer, subscribing client) are V2.


What about serverid compatibility?

* over the last few months we've refactored the way clients use storage
  servers, to split their notion of "serverid" (aka "peerid") into
  several pieces. V2 announcements provide specific values for these
  different pieces, so that some can remain the same as before, while
  others are new. (this process is about 80% complete)

* "serverid" will be used to mean the Ed25519 pubkey (but some code
  still uses it to mean the tubid.. this will eventually be fixed). This
  is the servers's long-term secure identifier, suitable for #467-style
  server designation. Old V1 nodes won't have serverids, so it won't be
  possible to securely reference a V1 node, so using #467 will depend
  upon upgraded servers and an upgraded Introducer.

* "name" is used to describe servers on the Welcome page, and is either
  the pubkey (if available) or the tubid. It is not secure, in the sense
  that it could be spoofed, and so shouldn't be used for #467-style
  server designation.

* "permutation seed" is used by the server-selection algorithm. It is
  provided by the server (which can use anything it likes). Brand new V2
  servers use the ed25519 serverid. Old V1 servers use the foolscap
  tubid (i.e. when V1 tuples are upgraded by the Introducer to V2 dicts,
  it adds a "permutation-seed-base32" key derived from the tubid). V2
  servers which wake up with existing shares will use their tubid
  forevermore, since that probably means other clients have known them
  by the tubid, so they'll be expecting share placement based upon the
  old tubid. This allows backwards compatibility for old shares while
  allowing brand new empty servers to live in the future, not the past.

* "lease seed" is always the tubid, and continues to be used to generate
  the per-share per-server lease-renew/cancel secrets. To safely use a
  shared secret, you have to send that secret over a very specific
  channel, which means they're tied to a transport protocol and a
  verifiable endpoint. So they won't be usable in a post-Foolscap world
  anyways. The plan (as part of #666) is to replace shared-secrets with
  per-lease Ed25519 keypairs.

* "foolscap write enabler seed" is also the tubid, for exactly the same
  reasons. We'll need to replace both lease-management and mutable-file
  write-management before we can move from Foolscap to unencrypted HTTP.


Open questions:

* serverids currently include a short version marker: the "v0-" in
  "v0-fcmgu663rdyshncihts4e45rtwjwvc7ebcrtlaiv345yyps667pq". Does that
  get in the way of cut-and-paste? Would it be better to use something
  like "v0fcmgu663rdyshncihts4e45rtwjwvc7ebcrtlaiv345yyps667pq"? When we
  abbreviate these in places like the FileChecker results page (to
  identify specific servers), is there a way to get the v0- out of the
  abbreviated form? (maybe use a "-v0"/"v0" suffix? maybe define the
  abbreviated form to skip the prefix, so this example appears as just
  "fcmgu"?)

* are there places where I've missed the tubid-to-serverid transition? I
  spotted one just now, the "My nodeid" field on the welcome page.

* Next steps: push forward on the Accounting work, specifically looking
  for ways to display (to clients) which servers you're using, and then
  maybe to exert some control over that list. There are some UI
  questions to figure out: I can imagine managing this config with both
  tahoe.cfg (have a config key with a list of serverids) and via a web
  page (a <table> with enable/disable checkboxes), but the latter
  requires some web-security frameworking that we don't have in place
  yet (and might not want to rely upon anyways).

Let me know if you have an questions.. I imagine some of this is as
clear as mud.

cheers,
 -Brian
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From nnnijcyw.5.stripes at arcr.com  Wed Mar 14 00:39:19 2012
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Театр Киноактера
       
16 Марта, начало в 19.00
   
Заложники любви
    
Тел: (495) 641-89-75
     
Лирическая комедия
     
Автор пьесы: Наталья Демчик (входит в пятерку лучших современных драматургов-комедиографов).  
 
Вот и встретились два одиночества в Рождественский вечер. Он - командированный в Россию американец, Она - очаровательная русская вдовушка.  А в Рождество, как известно, происходят всякие чудеса. В самый интересный момент, в момент предложения руки и сердца, к влюблённым неожиданно являются с "небес" их покойные супруги - "рубаха-парень" Гришаня, и феминистка Дебора...
   
Начинается бурное выяснение отношений: тут и ревность, и шовинизм, и прошлые обиды...Водка подогревает споры, и каждая сторона высказывается сполна, не жалея эпитетов. К утру наступает умиротворение. "Пришельцам" пора возвращаться. А Екатерина и Скотт серьезно задумываются над тем, как же им на этом свете выстроить отношения  друг  с  другом,  чтобы  прожить  счастливо.
       
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Действующие  лица  и  исполнители:
     
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From warner at lothar.com  Wed Mar 14 13:25:36 2012
From: warner at lothar.com (Brian Warner)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:25:36 -0700
Subject: [tahoe-dev] keeping private grids private
Message-ID: <mailman.3318.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 3/9/12 7:39 PM, Vladimir Arseniev wrote:

> Let's say that we have a private grid, with both local and hosted
> servers. But our introducer.furl falls into the wrong hands, and
> uninvited nodes start appearing. Maybe they're just leeching storage.
> Maybe they're disrupting the grid through flapping, running deep-check
> all the time, or whatever. Maybe they're actively attacking the grid.
> 
> How do we exclude them? Can introducers be configured to accept only
> known nodes? Could we create a new introducer, and circulate its furl
> to authorized nodes? Or would that just create a new grid?

Like Markus said, we're getting closer, but we aren't quite there yet.
The most important fix is to make the introducer.furl actually secret
(currently it's guessable by anyone who knows the tubid): ticket #860 is
related (but I can't find the actual ticket). Once fixed, then keeping
the introducer.furl from falling into those wrong hands will work. It
gives you a sort of secret-frat-party security system: anyone who's in
the club can invite anyone they like, and there's no way to kick someone
out (knowledge of the introducer.furl is irrevocable).

We don't want to add new security measures to the Introducer itself
(like giving it a list of "good" clients so it can ignore the rest),
because we want to get rid of the Introducer entirely. We want to
replace it with a distributed gossip-based system (#68), and you can't
rely on a bunch of gossiping nodes to enforce access-control policies.
So we're looking in different directions to provide the sort of control
you're looking for.

The next step is the explicit-server-selection work: #467. When that's
done, each client will be able to indicate which servers they want to
use, ignoring rogue servers. That will fix the availability problems
(servers connecting, accepting shares, then disappearing). The
configuration of this is still a matter of debate: one approach is to
list the pubkey of the servers you want to use, but that can be
labor-intensive for larger grids, and makes it hard to share files if
the uploader uses a different list than the downloader. Another approach
is to delegate membership to a "grid manager" of some sort: more moving
pieces but probably easier to use.

The step after that is part of Accounting (#666), in which servers
reject operations by unauthorized clients. This would include both
storage (leeching) and network bandwidth (downloading shares, running
deep-check, etc, but not basic DoS).

But for now, yeah, IP-address filtering is a good quick answer.

cheers,
 -Brian
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From bbrewer at littledystopia.net  Wed Mar 14 13:37:17 2012
From: bbrewer at littledystopia.net (bbrewer)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:37:17 -0400
Subject: [wired] Unknown Tech Company Defies FBI In Mystery Surveillance
  Case
Message-ID: <4F61017D.9080407@littledystopia.net>

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/mystery-nsl/


________________________________________________________________||

Unknown Tech Company Defies FBI In Mystery Surveillance Case

"Sometime earlier this year, a provider of communication services in the
United States  perhaps a phone company, perhaps Twitter  got a letter
from the FBI demanding it turn over information on one, or possibly even
hundreds, of its customers. The letter instructed the company to never
disclose the existence of the demand to anyone  in particular, the
target of the investigation.

This sort of letter is not uncommon post-9/11 and with the passage of
the U.S. Patriot Act, which gave the FBI increased authority to issue
so-called National Security Letters (NSLs). In 2010, the FBI sent more
than 24,000 NSLs to ISPs and other companies, seeking information on
more than 14,000 individuals in the U.S.

The public heard about none of these letters.

But this time, the company that received the request pushed back. It
told the agency that it wanted to tell its customer that he or she was
being targeted, which would give the customer a chance to fight the
request in court, as a group of Twitter users did last year when the
Justice Department sought their records under a different kind of
request. The minor defiance in this latest case was enough to land the
NSL request in a federal court docket last Friday, where the government
filed a request for a court order to force the company to adhere to the
gag order."

...........




From stercor at gmail.com  Wed Mar 14 14:31:09 2012
From: stercor at gmail.com (Ted Rolle, Jr.)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:31:09 -0400
Subject: [tahoe-dev] Safely defined.
Message-ID: <mailman.3319.1576008222.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Brian:  Define safely.

I'm in a volunteer grid.  Bulletproof code is important for reliability.
This does _not_ reflect your coding ability.

It's a characteristic of large systems.  I've written large systems and
had unintended consequences from "small, harmless, guaranteed-to-work"
changes.  But, we didn't have a testing environment as complete as
Tahoe-LAFS has.  If new code passes the testing suite, it's most
probably clean.

Change of mind: I like to be on the cutting edge.  I'll put the new code
into place when it's someone says its safe to do so.

Thanks for all your work,

Ted

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From eugen at leitl.org  Wed Mar 14 13:12:39 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:12:39 +0100
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:30:33 +0100
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From eugen at leitl.org  Wed Mar 14 14:38:07 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:38:07 +0100
Subject: [tahoe-dev] Safely defined.
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Ставка обязательных страховых взносов (СВ) с зарплаты с 2012 года составляет 30% почти для всех плательщиков (включая субъектов УСН и ЕНВД). При формальном снижении нагрузки по зарплате многих сотрудников фактически выплаты возрастут: если раньше с больших зарплат СВ не уплачивались, то теперь их ставка составит 10% с суммы дохода свыше 512 тыс. рублей в год. Если вспомнить про 13% НДФЛ и НДС, который тоже косвенно является налогом на зарплату, то многие предприниматели и руководители видят только один путь √ назад, к "черным" схемам. 

Есть возможность посещения любого одного дня: программа разбита на два логических блока, каждый из которых занимает один день. Рекомендуется посещение обоих дней. 

Первый день посвящен поиску путей выживания компаний при условии легальности всех выплат доходов физическим лицам. Участники узнают, как можно и как нельзя оптимизировать "зарплатные" налоги с учетом изменений законодательства, судебной практики и тенденций развития правоприменительной практики. Кроме того, рассматриваются общие для всех налоговых схем условия и принципы применения √ такие как наличие деловых целей, отсутствие аффилированности и фиктивных сделок, грамотное оформление.

Второй день посвящен изучению основных практических методов оптимизации налога на прибыль и (в той степени, в которой это возможно) НДС в торговых (оптовых и розничных) и производственных предприятиях, предприятиях, оказывающих услуги или выполняющих работы, в т.ч. строительные. Рассматриваются субъекты льготного налогообложения, способы переноса на них налогооблагаемой базы и пути безналогового рефинансирования (возврата) выведенных сумм. Участники получат краткие индивидуальные консультации по тематике курса.

Программа:

1 день: Методы оптимизации расходов на выплату белой зарплаты и других доходов физических лиц в 2012-13 гг. 

1. Понятие и принципы налогового планирования: платить налоги, но не переплачивать. "Черные", "серые" и "белые" схемы. Классификация методов оптимизации налогообложения доходов физических лиц. Обзор изменений законодательства по страховым взносам на 2012-13 гг., как они повлияли на налоговые схемы.

2. Использование специальных налоговых режимов:

 * в каком случае выплата зарплаты на спецрежимах сохраняет актуальность;

 * дивидендные схемы √ замена выплаты зарплате на "упрощенке"? Нюансы, рекомендации. Выплата квартальных дивидендов ежемесячно частями. Выплаты из прибыли в АО, ООО, производственном кооперативе ("народном предприятии"). Расчет эффективности,

 * договоры с предпринимателем: возмездного оказания услуг, выполнения работ, агентский, транспортные услуги, механизм трансфертных цен, штрафные санкции, аренда и пр. Способы минимизации рисков имущественной ответственности предпринимателя. Расчет эффективности,

 * дарение физлицом наличных денег, заработанных в качестве предпринимателя: легальная альтернатива обналичиванию, дающая безналоговый доход? Выбор банков, проблемы, связанные с новым порядком ведения кассовых операций.

3. Условия применения всех схем: Непритворный характер заключаемых сделок. Экономическая целесообразность расходов ("деловая цель", "легенда", отсутствие дублирующихся функций). Грамотное обоснование цен и качественное документальное оформление расходов. Неаффилированность, прямые и косвенные признаки аффилированности, ее негативные последствия и когда она допустима; "искусственное дробление бизнеса с целью уклонения от уплаты налогов" (подход "как к ЮКОСу"); "деловые цели", обосновывающие деление бизнеса. Самостоятельность низконалоговых субъектов. 
4. Использование вспомогательных организаций:

 *  "инвалидные" организации и их филиалы, актуальность;

 * страховые компании. Долгосрочное накопительное страхование жизни работников и ДМС за счет предприятия.

5. Использование иностранных (низконалоговых) компаний. Корпоративные или личные пластиковые карты иностранных банков. Перевод на них или на карты российских банков зарплат, компенсаций, гонораров и иных легальных доходов от нерезидентов.

6. Как компенсировать снижение социальных гарантий (включая пенсионные накопления) работников при применении налоговых схем, не предусматривающих выплату зарплаты?

7. Использование процентных займов от физлиц. Расчет эффективности. Потребительский кредитный кооператив граждан √ способ получения безналогового дохода в виде процентов.

8. Специальные методы. Все виды компенсаций (за несвоевременную выплату заработной платы, за использование личного имущества, за разъездной характер работы, "золотые парашюты" и др.). Выплата арендной платы. Закуп у физлиц ТМЦ. Суточные. Обучение сотрудников с заключением ученического договора, как способ налогового планирования.

9. Потребительское кредитование, компенсация процентов по ипотечным кредитам и другие эффективные способы замены заработной платы безналоговыми источниками материальной выгоды.

10. Способы подтверждения источников крупных расходов физлиц и когда это необходимо.

2 день: Налоговое планирование по страховым взносам и НДФЛ в 2012 г. с учетом изменений законодательства

1. Методы планирования налога на прибыль и НДС. Принципиальная невозможность экономии НДС "белыми" схемами и случаи, когда это все же возможно.

2. Низконалоговые субъекты:

 * субъекты специальных налоговых режимов √ ЕНВД и УСН, в т.ч. патентная система, субъекты УСН из "низконалоговых" регионов, где введена минимальная ставка единого налога при объекте "доходы минус расходы" (5%) на все или почти на все виды деятельности, а также простое товарищество с их участием,

 * оффшоры или связанные с ними компании-нерезиденты из респектабельных юрисдикций,

 * экзотические варианты: ИП на общей системе, физлица (при условии несистематичности извлечения дохода), "инвалидные" структуры, убыточные предприятия и фирмы, имеющие переплату НДС,

3. Незаконные варианты: "недобросовестные налогоплательщики" и контактирующие с ними риск-структуры ("белая" - "серая" - "черная" фирмы). Примеры "серых" схем с применением затратных механизмов (как нельзя "оптимизировать"!). Как не стать "недобросовестным".

4. Способы переноса налогооблагаемой базы по налогу на прибыль на низконалоговых субъектов:

 * нефиктивные услуги, работы,

 * выплата процентов по долговым обязательствам. Включение процентов в расходы в любом размере,

 * платежи за использование и обслуживание объектов основных средств и нематериальных активов, в т.ч. лицензионные и франчайзинговые,

 * штрафные санкции, возмещение убытков, включая демередж и прочий простой,

 * платежи за увеличенный срок и/или объем гарантийных обязательств,

 * плата за залог или поручительство, делькредере.

 * механизм трансфертных цен. Новое антитрансфертное законодательство, способы ухода от контроля за сделками, грамотное обоснование трансфертных цен,

5. Займы как способ возвратного рефинансирования √ преимущества и недостатки, риск ведения незаконной банковской деятельности. Безналоговое рефинансирование (возврат) и капитализация выведенной прибыли предприятия (холдинга) через уставный капитал, безвозмездную передачу имущества, увеличение чистых активов, ст. 27 Закона "Об ООО".

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7. Экономия НДС в торговле, производстве, выполнении работ, оказании услуг через разделение финансово-товарных потоков "с НДС" и "без НДС". Ограничение использования: покупатели/заказчики, не нуждающиеся в вычете НДС, как их выявить, или создать искусственно. Риски и рекомендации по использованию схемы.

8. Иностранные низконалоговые компании, цели применения. Их использование при проведении внутрироссийских операций для оптимизации налога на прибыль: традиционные (торговля, проценты, дивиденды, роялти, услуги и т.п.) и нетрадиционные схемы (простое товарищество, агентские). Выбор низконалоговых юрисдикций.

9. Обзор изменений налогового законодательства, как они повлияют на налоговые схемы. Ответы на вопросы. По желанию и по возможности √ индивидуальное экспресс-моделирование схем налогового планирования для компаний-участниц курса.

3 день: Оптимизации налога на прибыль и НДС как антикризисная мера: как снизить расходы и увеличить прибыль

1. Методы планирования НДС. Принципиальная невозможность экономии НДС "белыми" схемами и случаи, когда это все же возможно.

2. Оптимизация НДС и налога на прибыль в оптовой и розничной торговле и производстве с использованием ИП на ЕНВД с уплатой символического налога (маленький торговый зал, торговое место, развозная торговля). Нюансы. Ограничение использования: покупатели, не нуждающиеся в вычете НДС, как их выявить или создать искусственно. Риски, связанные определением розничной торговли по ГК и рекомендации по использованию схемы.

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From rguerra at privaterra.org  Thu Mar 15 07:50:28 2012
From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:50:28 -0400
Subject: [liberationtech] decentralized DNS...
Message-ID: <mailman.3320.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Another option is to use a hosting service,  a registry and registrar that are in a jurisdiction that is out of reach of US authorities..

here's a recent post from Byron Holland, the CEO of CIRA (the top level country code domain for Canada- .ca)

http://blog.cira.ca/2012/03/domain-name-seizures-and-ca/


Posted by: Byron Holland

Domain name seizures have been top-of-mind for many people lately.

It was one of the topics identified at the Canadian Internet Forum, and the high profile seizure by the U.S. government of the Canadian online gambling site bodog.com has been getting a lot ofmedia attention. This also isnbt the first time the U.S. government has seized domain names based on billegalb activity. In 2010, a number of .COM, .NET and .ORG domains were seized, and a country code top-level domain (ccTLD) operated by VeriSign in California, .TV, wasseized as well. In 2011, another 150 were seized.
For the most part, the Internet does not recognize national borders. Internet traffic is routed all over the globe, and itbs possible to register a domain using a wide variety of domain name extensions.

Herebs the thing b the stuff to the right of the dot matters: note that bodog.ca still resolves.
If you register a domain name with an extension that is managed in another country, it is likely subject to the laws of that country b full stop. If a website is found to be in violation of American law, and the domain for that site is an extension managed by a U.S. entity, the U.S. government may seize it.
If you keep your business in another country (in the case of Canada, register a .CA with a Canadian Registrar and use a Canadian web host), foreign governments canbt unilaterally seize it. CIRA has never been asked by a foreign government to shut down or seize a domain name.
The DNS root zone does fall under American jurisdiction with ICANN (through IANA) as the operator. However, ICANN has explicitly stated in a blog post that they do bnot take down domain namesb and that they bhave no technical or legal authority to do that.b

The fact is ICANN couldnbt cherry-pick domains even if it wanted to. If the U.S. government decided that they wanted to shut down a .CA website, and tried to do it through ICANN, they would have to shut down all of .CA in the root zone. This would involve cutting off every single .CA website and email address from the Internet, and theybre not going to do that for a number of reasons (not the least of which is the fact that shutting down the entire .CA domain space and everything in it would be a major international incident).

The global economy would freeze if the U.S. government took such an action. The underpinnings of the Internet would be completely undermined. Think about this: the U.S. government hasnbt even shut down the Internet in nations theybve been at war or have very strained relations with b Iraq, Libya, Iran are just a few examples b because the trust that supports the Internet is fundamental to the economic and social well-being of humanity.  Given that, why would they shut down an entire top level domain over a single website?

The Internet has brought us incredible benefits, many due to the fact that it breaks down national and geographic borders.  However, because of the very nature of the Internet b the fact that it is bvirtualb and bin the cloudb b most of us donbt tend to think of it being governed by the laws of a particular nation. But as the bodog.com case demonstrates, it is critically important to be aware of which jurisdiction your digital assets are in, and therefore what laws they may be subject to.
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From rohandixit86 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 15 11:36:54 2012
From: rohandixit86 at gmail.com (Rohan Dixit)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:36:54 -0700
Subject: [liberationtech] Thoughts on decentralized DNS,
	and OpenNIC particularly?
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Thanks for this, really helpful. My purpose in doing this is to figure out
what the most practical/quickest to deployment solution is for distributed
DNS records, so this is definitely useful.

I looked at both namecoin and CJDNS. Looks like namecoin has attracted most
of the developers from the initial project, with CJDNS still limping along
(I'm guessing based on activity here.)

Links to the code:
namecoin: https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/graphs/impact
CJDNS: https://github.com/vinced/namecoin/graphs/impact

Could you speak to the structure of namecoin a bit more? Looks like it uses
the "proof-of-work" trick from bitcoin to validate DNS records (and
arbitrary key-value pairs), unless my skimming was totally off. That's
pretty ingenious, for those who are interested I found a great blog post
that serves both as an introduction to Bitcoin and explains how it could be
used to make a distributed DNS.

http://paulbohm.com/2011/06/17/bitcoins-value-is-decentralization

It appears they're also proposing integrating with providers like OpenNIC,
OpenDNS, etc. although I'm not qualified to judge how feasible that is.
http://dot-bit.org/Project_Roadmap They also share computing resources with
current bitcoin generators.... seems they've thought of everything.


Someone mentioned DNSSEC in a new off-shoot thread. DNSSEC within the
existing DNS paradigm is only a half-measure (although I think you'll
agree, an important one.)


*Notes on other dDNS providers:*
So besides namecoin and CJDNS, there's also Dot-P2p, the dDNS system that
was proposed based on the BitTorrent protocol. Some info was here:
http://p2pfoundation.net/Dot-P2P but the link to
http://dot-p2p.org/index.php?title=Main_Page looks dead. The first hit
Googling "distributed dns" brings up another codebase that hasn't been
modified seemingly since 2005 (
http://sourceforge.net/projects/distributeddns/files). I checked out DIANNA
as well, but didn't see a link to active code so assumed it was mostly
dead. http://dianna-project.org/wiki/Main_Page



On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:36 PM, <liberationtech at lewman.us> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:19:47PM -0700, rohandixit86 at gmail.com wrote
> 14K bytes in 317 lines about:
> : Curious if anyone had thoughts on OpenNIC as a provider of decentralized
> : DNS. From my naive point of view, it often seems like dDNS is a good way
> to
> : stop lazy types of censorship. But perhaps I'm missing something and the
> : problem is more complicated than that?
>
> It is not distributed. It is just a rebirth of the non-ICANN root
> servers. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlterNIC for past history on
> this idea.
>
> See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root for more
> history and current status.
>
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From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar 15 07:52:31 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:52:31 +0100
Subject: [liberationtech] decentralized DNS...
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From kb at karelbilek.com  Thu Mar 15 08:24:11 2012
From: kb at karelbilek.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Karel_B=EDlek?=)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:24:11 +0100
Subject: [info] <nettime> What do you think about .art?
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You cannot have it both ways.

The domain system will either be centralized with name arbitration and
without cybersquatting, but with domain ceisures; or decentralized,
but with rampant cybersquatting.

I can't imagine how to do decentralized DNS with domain name
arbitration. You need to have a central power to do this.

KB

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:36 PM, lodewijk andri de la porte
<lodewijkadlp at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2012/3/12 Karel Bmlek <kb at karelbilek.com>
>>
>> I never understood how it works exactly, but what is wrong with namecoin?
>>
>> (besides the fact that noone uses it)
>
>
> No domain name arbitration. If someone cybersquatted Microsoft.bit that'd
> really suck. Maybe they'd have the means to go after them but I likely
> wouldn't have.
>
> (and it doesn't solve the dumb users don't get it problem. There's been
some
> really cool DNS providers integrating .bit to standard resolves though, I'd
> like to see more of that)




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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 04:24:11PM +0100, Karel Bmlek wrote:
> You cannot have it both ways.
> 
> The domain system will either be centralized with name arbitration and
> without cybersquatting, but with domain ceisures; or decentralized,
> but with rampant cybersquatting.
> 
> I can't imagine how to do decentralized DNS with domain name
> arbitration. You need to have a central power to do this.

How often do you enter the host names? Most people enter
Google into the Google search windows to find, you guessed it,
Google.

There are multiple decentral models to avoid cybersquatting.
Publishing at cost, credits gained by operating name resolution,
using a network of reputation for registries to penalize
flooders, and so on.




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From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:48:13 +0100
Subject: [liberationtech] Thoughts on decentralized DNS, and OpenNIC
  	particularly?
Message-ID: <20120315194813.GE9891@leitl.org>

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From danimoth at cryptolab.net  Fri Mar 16 03:14:05 2012
From: danimoth at cryptolab.net (danimoth)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:14:05 +0100
Subject: [liberationtech] Thoughts on decentralized DNS,
	and OpenNIC particularly?
Message-ID: <mailman.3322.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Il giorno gio, 15/03/2012 alle 11.36 -0700, Rohan Dixit ha scritto:

> I looked at both namecoin and CJDNS. Looks like namecoin has attracted
> most of the developers from the initial project, with CJDNS still
> limping along (I'm guessing based on activity here.)
> 
> 
> Links to the code:
> namecoin: https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/graphs/impact
> 
> CJDNS: https://github.com/vinced/namecoin/graphs/impact
> 
> 
> 
> Could you speak to the structure of namecoin a bit more? Looks like it
> uses the "proof-of-work" trick from bitcoin to validate DNS records
> (and arbitrary key-value pairs), unless my skimming was totally off.
> That's pretty ingenious, for those who are interested I found a great
> blog post that serves both as an introduction to Bitcoin and explains
> how it could be used to make a distributed DNS. 
> 
> 
> http://paulbohm.com/2011/06/17/bitcoins-value-is-decentralization

Namecoin is another currency, based from bitcoin code. But like many
crypto things, when you take a "black box" and little modify it, the
conseguences could be a complete disaster.
Namecoin is flawed and *NOBODY* should consider it anymore. From [1]:

0. Coins are destroyed
1. NetworkFee descreasing for 50 to zero and will be zero in ~80000
block and has no feedback with network activity like difficulty has.
2. Namecoin was designed for free domains and this is its future
3. Developers have to do system intrusion from time to time to avoid
collapse or spam hell

DIANNA try to use existing bitcoin chain's (as satoshi explained) to do
the same thing, but they are designing it carefully. Help them if you
can. 

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62017.0


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From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:59:36 +0100
Subject: [liberationtech] Thoughts on decentralized DNS, and OpenNIC
  	particularly?
Message-ID: <20120316105936.GZ9891@leitl.org>

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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar 16 06:35:26 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:35:26 +0100
Subject: The NSA Is Building the =?utf-8?Q?Country?= 
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Message-ID: <20120316133526.GM9891@leitl.org>

(yay, Bamford is back from the dead)

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Today Bluffdale is home to one of the nationbs largest sects of polygamists,
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assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze,
and store vast swaths of the worldbs communications as they zap down from
satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of
international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2
billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through
its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all
forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails,
cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data
trailsbparking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other
digital bpocket litter.b It is, in some measure, the realization of the
btotal information awarenessb program created during the first term of the
Bush administrationban effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it
caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americansb privacy.

But bthis is more than just a data center,b says one senior intelligence
official who until recently was involved with the program. The mammoth
Bluffdale center will have another important and far more secret role that
until now has gone unrevealed. It is also critical, he says, for breaking
codes. And code-breaking is crucial, because much of the data that the center
will handlebfinancial information, stock transactions, business deals,
foreign military and diplomatic secrets, legal documents, confidential
personal communicationsbwill be heavily encrypted. According to another top
official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous
breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break,
unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments
around the world but also many average computer users in the US. The upshot,
according to this official: bEverybodybs a target; everybody with
communication is a target.b

For the NSA, overflowing with tens of billions of dollars in post-9/11 budget
awards, the cryptanalysis breakthrough came at a time of explosive growth, in
size as well as in power. Established as an arm of the Department of Defense
following Pearl Harbor, with the primary purpose of preventing another
surprise assault, the NSA suffered a series of humiliations in the post-Cold
War years. Caught offguard by an escalating series of terrorist attacksbthe
first World Trade Center bombing, the blowing up of US embassies in East
Africa, the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, and finally the devastation of
9/11bsome began questioning the agencybs very reason for being. In response,
the NSA has quietly been reborn. And while there is little indication that
its actual effectiveness has improvedbafter all, despite numerous pieces of
evidence and intelligence-gathering opportunities, it missed the
near-disastrous attempted attacks by the underwear bomber on a flight to
Detroit in 2009 and by the car bomber in Times Square in 2010bthere is no
doubt that it has transformed itself into the largest, most covert, and
potentially most intrusive intelligence agency ever created.

In the processband for the first time since Watergate and the other scandals
of the Nixon administrationbthe NSA has turned its surveillance apparatus on
the US and its citizens. It has established listening posts throughout the
nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone
calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. It has created
a supercomputer of almost unimaginable speed to look for patterns and
unscramble codes. Finally, the agency has begun building a place to store all
the trillions of words and thoughts and whispers captured in its electronic
net. And, of course, itbs all being done in secret. To those on the inside,
the old adage that NSA stands for Never Say Anything applies more than ever.

UTAH DATA CENTER

When construction is completed in 2013, the heavily fortified $2 billion
facility in Bluale will encompass 1 million square feet.

Utah Data Center

1 Visitor control center

A $9.7 million facility for ensuring that only cleared personnel gain access.

2 Administration

Designated space for technical support and administrative personnel.

3 Data halls

Four 25,000-square-foot facilities house rows and rows of servers.

4 Backup generators and fuel tanks

Can power the center for at least three days.

5 Water storage and pumping

Able to pump 1.7 million gallons of liquid per day.

6 Chiller plant

About 60,000 tons of cooling equipment to keep servers from overheating.

7 Power substation

An electrical substation to meet the centerbs estimated 65-megawatt demand.

8 Security

Video surveillance, intrusion detection, and other protection will cost more
than $10 million.

Source: U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Conceptual Site plan

A swath of freezing fog blanketed Salt Lake City on the morning of January 6,
2011, mixing with a weeklong coating of heavy gray smog. Red air alerts,
warning people to stay indoors unless absolutely necessary, had become almost
daily occurrences, and the temperature was in the bone-chilling twenties.
bWhat I smell and taste is like coal smoke,b complained one local blogger
that day. At the citybs international airport, many inbound flights were
delayed or diverted while outbound regional jets were grounded. But among
those making it through the icy mist was a figure whose gray suit and tie
made him almost disappear into the background. He was tall and thin, with the
physique of an aging basketball player and dark caterpillar eyebrows beneath
a shock of matching hair. Accompanied by a retinue of bodyguards, the man was
NSA deputy director Chris Inglis, the agencybs highest-ranking civilian and
the person who ran its worldwide day-to-day operations.

A short time later, Inglis arrived in Bluffdale at the site of the future
data center, a flat, unpaved runway on a little-used part of Camp Williams, a
National Guard training site. There, in a white tent set up for the occasion,
Inglis joined Harvey Davis, the agencybs associate director for installations
and logistics, and Utah senator Orrin Hatch, along with a few generals and
politicians in a surreal ceremony. Standing in an odd wooden sandbox and
holding gold-painted shovels, they made awkward jabs at the sand and thus
officially broke ground on what the local media had simply dubbed bthe spy
center.b Hoping for some details on what was about to be built, reporters
turned to one of the invited guests, Lane Beattie of the Salt Lake Chamber of
Commerce. Did he have any idea of the purpose behind the new facility in his
backyard? bAbsolutely not,b he said with a self-conscious half laugh. bNor do
I want them spying on me.b

For his part, Inglis simply engaged in a bit of double-talk, emphasizing the
least threatening aspect of the center: bItbs a state-of-the-art facility
designed to support the intelligence community in its mission to, in turn,
enable and protect the nationbs cybersecurity.b While cybersecurity will
certainly be among the areas focused on in Bluffdale, what is collected, how
itbs collected, and what is done with the material are far more important
issues. Battling hackers makes for a nice coverbitbs easy to explain, and who
could be against it? Then the reporters turned to Hatch, who proudly
described the center as ba great tribute to Utah,b then added, bI canbt tell
you a lot about what theybre going to be doing, because itbs highly
classified.b

And then there was this anomaly: Although this was supposedly the official
ground-breaking for the nationbs largest and most expensive cybersecurity
project, no one from the Department of Homeland Security, the agency
responsible for protecting civilian networks from cyberattack, spoke from the
lectern. In fact, the official whobd originally introduced the data center,
at a press conference in Salt Lake City in October 2009, had nothing to do
with cybersecurity. It was Glenn A. Gaffney, deputy director of national
intelligence for collection, a man who had spent almost his entire career at
the CIA. As head of collection for the intelligence community, he managed the
countrybs human and electronic spies.

Within days, the tent and sandbox and gold shovels would be gone and Inglis
and the generals would be replaced by some 10,000 construction workers.
bWebve been asked not to talk about the project,b Rob Moore, president of
Big-D Construction, one of the three major contractors working on the
project, told a local reporter. The plans for the center show an extensive
security system: an elaborate $10 million antiterrorism protection program,
including a fence designed to stop a 15,000-pound vehicle traveling 50 miles
per hour, closed-circuit cameras, a biometric identification system, a
vehicle inspection facility, and a visitor-control center.

Inside, the facility will consist of four 25,000-square-foot halls filled
with servers, complete with raised floor space for cables and storage. In
addition, there will be more than 900,000 square feet for technical support
and administration. The entire site will be self-sustaining, with fuel tanks
large enough to power the backup generators for three days in an emergency,
water storage with the capability of pumping 1.7 million gallons of liquid
per day, as well as a sewage system and massive air-conditioning system to
keep all those servers cool. Electricity will come from the centerbs own
substation built by Rocky Mountain Power to satisfy the 65-megawatt power
demand. Such a mammoth amount of energy comes with a mammoth price tagbabout
$40 million a year, according to one estimate.

Given the facilitybs scale and the fact that a terabyte of data can now be
stored on a flash drive the size of a manbs pinky, the potential amount of
information that could be housed in Bluffdale is truly staggering. But so is
the exponential growth in the amount of intelligence data being produced
every day by the eavesdropping sensors of the NSA and other intelligence
agencies. As a result of this bexpanding array of theater airborne and other
sensor networks,b as a 2007 Department of Defense report puts it, the
Pentagon is attempting to expand its worldwide communications network, known
as the Global Information Grid, to handle yottabytes (1024 bytes) of data. (A
yottabyte is a septillion bytesbso large that no one has yet coined a term
for the next higher magnitude.)

It needs that capacity because, according to a recent report by Cisco, global
Internet traffic will quadruple from 2010 to 2015, reaching 966 exabytes per
year. (A million exabytes equal a yottabyte.) In terms of scale, Eric
Schmidt, Googlebs former CEO, once estimated that the total of all human
knowledge created from the dawn of man to 2003 totaled 5 exabytes. And the
data flow shows no sign of slowing. In 2011 more than 2 billion of the
worldbs 6.9 billion people were connected to the Internet. By 2015, market
research firm IDC estimates, there will be 2.7 billion users. Thus, the NSAbs
need for a 1-million-square-foot data storehouse. Should the agency ever fill
the Utah center with a yottabyte of information, it would be equal to about
500 quintillion (500,000,000,000,000,000,000) pages of text.

The data stored in Bluffdale will naturally go far beyond the worldbs
billions of public web pages. The NSA is more interested in the so-called
invisible web, also known as the deep web or deepnetbdata beyond the reach of
the public. This includes password-protected data, US and foreign government
communications, and noncommercial file-sharing between trusted peers. bThe
deep web contains government reports, databases, and other sources of
information of high value to DOD and the intelligence community,b according
to a 2010 Defense Science Board report. bAlternative tools are needed to find
and index data in the deep web b& Stealing the classified secrets of a
potential adversary is where the [intelligence] community is most
comfortable.b With its new Utah Data Center, the NSA will at last have the
technical capability to store, and rummage through, all those stolen secrets.
The question, of course, is how the agency defines who is, and who is not, ba
potential adversary.b

The NSAbS SPY NETWORK

Once itbs operational, the Utah Data Center will become, in effect, the NSAbs
cloud. The center will be fed data collected by the agencybs eavesdropping
satellites, overseas listening posts, and secret monitoring rooms in telecom
facilities throughout the US. All that data will then be accessible to the
NSAbs code breakers, data-miners, China analysts, counterterrorism
specialists, and others working at its Fort Meade headquarters and around the
world. Herebs how the data center appears to fit into the NSAbs global
puzzle.bJ.B.

SPY NETWORK

1 Geostationary satellites

Four satellites positioned around the globe monitor frequencies carrying
everything from walkie-talkies and cell phones in Libya to radar systems in
North Korea. Onboard software acts as the first filter in the collection
process, targeting only key regions, countries, cities, and phone numbers or
email.

2 Aerospace Data Facility, Buckley Air Force Base, Colorado

Intelligence collected from the geostationary satellites, as well as signals
from other spacecraft and overseas listening posts, is relayed to this
facility outside Denver. About 850 NSA employees track the satellites,
transmit target information, and download the intelligence haul.

3 NSA Georgia, Fort Gordon, Augusta, Georgia

Focuses on intercepts from Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa.
Codenamed Sweet Tea, the facility has been massively expanded and now
consists of a 604,000-square-foot operations building for up to 4,000
intercept operators, analysts, and other specialists.

4 NSA Texas, Lackland Air Force Base, San Antonio

Focuses on intercepts from Latin America and, since 9/11, the Middle East and
Europe. Some 2,000 workers staff the operation. The NSA recently completed a
$100 million renovation on a mega-data center hereba backup storage facility
for the Utah Data Center.

5 NSA Hawaii, Oahu

Focuses on intercepts from Asia. Built to house an aircraft assembly plant
during World War II, the 250,000-square-foot bunker is nicknamed the Hole.
Like the other NSA operations centers, it has since been expanded: Its 2,700
employees now do their work aboveground from a new 234,000-square-foot
facility.  6 Domestic listening posts

The NSA has long been free to eavesdrop on international satellite
communications. But after 9/11, it installed taps in US telecom bswitches,b
gaining access to domestic traffic. An ex-NSA official says there are 10 to
20 such installations.

7 Overseas listening posts

According to a knowledgeable intelligence source, the NSA has installed taps
on at least a dozen of the major overseas communications links, each capable
of eavesdropping on information passing by at a high data rate.

8 Utah Data Center, Bluffdale, Utah

At a million square feet, this $2 billion digital storage facility outside
Salt Lake City will be the centerpiece of the NSAbs cloud-based data strategy
and essential in its plans for decrypting previously uncrackable documents.

9 Multiprogram Research Facility, Oak Ridge, Tennessee

Some 300 scientists and computer engineers with top security clearance toil
away here, building the worldbs fastest supercomputers and working on
cryptanalytic applications and other secret projects.

10 NSA headquarters, Fort Meade, Maryland

Analysts here will access material stored at Bluffdale to prepare reports and
recommendations that are sent to policymakers. To handle the increased data
load, the NSA is also building an $896 million supercomputer here.

Before yottabytes of data from the deep web and elsewhere can begin piling up
inside the servers of the NSAbs new center, they must be collected. To better
accomplish that, the agency has undergone the largest building boom in its
history, including installing secret electronic monitoring rooms in major US
telecom facilities. Controlled by the NSA, these highly secured spaces are
where the agency taps into the US communications networks, a practice that
came to light during the Bush years but was never acknowledged by the agency.
The broad outlines of the so-called warrantless-wiretapping program have long
been exposedbhow the NSA secretly and illegally bypassed the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Court, which was supposed to oversee and authorize
highly targeted domestic eavesdropping; how the program allowed wholesale
monitoring of millions of American phone calls and email. In the wake of the
programbs exposure, Congress passed the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, which
largely made the practices legal. Telecoms that had agreed to participate in
the illegal activity were granted immunity from prosecution and lawsuits.
What wasnbt revealed until now, however, was the enormity of this ongoing
domestic spying program.

For the first time, a former NSA official has gone on the record to describe
the program, codenamed Stellar Wind, in detail. William Binney was a senior
NSA crypto-mathematician largely responsible for automating the agencybs
worldwide eavesdropping network. A tall man with strands of black hair across
the front of his scalp and dark, determined eyes behind thick-rimmed glasses,
the 68-year-old spent nearly four decades breaking codes and finding new ways
to channel billions of private phone calls and email messages from around the
world into the NSAbs bulging databases. As chief and one of the two
cofounders of the agencybs Signals Intelligence Automation Research Center,
Binney and his team designed much of the infrastructure thatbs still likely
used to intercept international and foreign communications.

He explains that the agency could have installed its tapping gear at the
nationbs cable landing stationsbthe more than two dozen sites on the
periphery of the US where fiber-optic cables come ashore. If it had taken
that route, the NSA would have been able to limit its eavesdropping to just
international communications, which at the time was all that was allowed
under US law. Instead it chose to put the wiretapping rooms at key junction
points throughout the countryblarge, windowless buildings known as
switchesbthus gaining access to not just international communications but
also to most of the domestic traffic flowing through the US. The network of
intercept stations goes far beyond the single room in an AT&T building in San
Francisco exposed by a whistle-blower in 2006. bI think therebs 10 to 20 of
them,b Binney says. bThatbs not just San Francisco; they have them in the
middle of the country and also on the East Coast.b

The eavesdropping on Americans doesnbt stop at the telecom switches. To
capture satellite communications in and out of the US, the agency also
monitors AT&Tbs powerful earth stations, satellite receivers in locations
that include Roaring Creek and Salt Creek. Tucked away on a back road in
rural Catawissa, Pennsylvania, Roaring Creekbs three 105-foot dishes handle
much of the countrybs communications to and from Europe and the Middle East.
And on an isolated stretch of land in remote Arbuckle, California, three
similar dishes at the companybs Salt Creek station service the Pacific Rim
and Asia.

The former NSA official held his thumb and forefinger close together: bWe are
that far from a turnkey totalitarian state.b

Binney left the NSA in late 2001, shortly after the agency launched its
warrantless-wiretapping program. bThey violated the Constitution setting it
up,b he says bluntly. bBut they didnbt care. They were going to do it anyway,
and they were going to crucify anyone who stood in the way. When they started
violating the Constitution, I couldnbt stay.b Binney says Stellar Wind was
far larger than has been publicly disclosed and included not just
eavesdropping on domestic phone calls but the inspection of domestic email.
At the outset the program recorded 320 million calls a day, he says, which
represented about 73 to 80 percent of the total volume of the agencybs
worldwide intercepts. The haul only grew from there. According to Binneybwho
has maintained close contact with agency employees until a few years agobthe
taps in the secret rooms dotting the country are actually powered by highly
sophisticated software programs that conduct bdeep packet inspection,b
examining Internet traffic as it passes through the 10-gigabit-per-second
cables at the speed of light.

The software, created by a company called Narus thatbs now part of Boeing, is
controlled remotely from NSA headquarters at Fort Meade in Maryland and
searches US sources for target addresses, locations, countries, and phone
numbers, as well as watch-listed names, keywords, and phrases in email. Any
communication that arouses suspicion, especially those to or from the million
or so people on agency watch lists, are automatically copied or recorded and
then transmitted to the NSA.

The scope of surveillance expands from there, Binney says. Once a name is
entered into the Narus database, all phone calls and other communications to
and from that person are automatically routed to the NSAbs recorders.
bAnybody you want, route to a recorder,b Binney says. bIf your numberbs in
there? Routed and gets recorded.b He adds, bThe Narus device allows you to
take it all.b And when Bluffdale is completed, whatever is collected will be
routed there for storage and analysis.

According to Binney, one of the deepest secrets of the Stellar Wind
programbagain, never confirmed until nowbwas that the NSA gained warrantless
access to AT&Tbs vast trove of domestic and international billing records,
detailed information about who called whom in the US and around the world. As
of 2007, AT&T had more than 2.8 trillion records housed in a database at its
Florham Park, New Jersey, complex.

Verizon was also part of the program, Binney says, and that greatly expanded
the volume of calls subject to the agencybs domestic eavesdropping. bThat
multiplies the call rate by at least a factor of five,b he says. bSo youbre
over a billion and a half calls a day.b (Spokespeople for Verizon and AT&T
said their companies would not comment on matters of national security.)

After he left the NSA, Binney suggested a system for monitoring peoplebs
communications according to how closely they are connected to an initial
target. The further away from the targetbsay youbre just an acquaintance of a
friend of the targetbthe less the surveillance. But the agency rejected the
idea, and, given the massive new storage facility in Utah, Binney suspects
that it now simply collects everything. bThe whole idea was, how do you
manage 20 terabytes of intercept a minute?b he says. bThe way we proposed was
to distinguish between things you want and things you donbt want.b Instead,
he adds, btheybre storing everything they gather.b And the agency is
gathering as much as it can.

Once the communications are intercepted and stored, the data-mining begins.
bYou can watch everybody all the time with data- mining,b Binney says.
Everything a person does becomes charted on a graph, bfinancial transactions
or travel or anything,b he says. Thus, as data like bookstore receipts, bank
statements, and commuter toll records flow in, the NSA is able to paint a
more and more detailed picture of someonebs life.

The NSA also has the ability to eavesdrop on phone calls directly and in real
time. According to Adrienne J. Kinne, who worked both before and after 9/11
as a voice interceptor at the NSA facility in Georgia, in the wake of the
World Trade Center attacks bbasically all rules were thrown out the window,
and they would use any excuse to justify a waiver to spy on Americans.b Even
journalists calling home from overseas were included. bA lot of time you
could tell they were calling their families,b she says, bincredibly intimate,
personal conversations.b Kinne found the act of eavesdropping on innocent
fellow citizens personally distressing. bItbs almost like going through and
finding somebodybs diary,b she says.  In secret listening rooms nationwide,
NSA software examines every email, phone call, and tweet as they zip by.

But there is, of course, reason for anyone to be distressed about the
practice. Once the door is open for the government to spy on US citizens,
there are often great temptations to abuse that power for political purposes,
as when Richard Nixon eavesdropped on his political enemies during Watergate
and ordered the NSA to spy on antiwar protesters. Those and other abuses
prompted Congress to enact prohibitions in the mid-1970s against domestic
spying.

Before he gave up and left the NSA, Binney tried to persuade officials to
create a more targeted system that could be authorized by a court. At the
time, the agency had 72 hours to obtain a legal warrant, and Binney devised a
method to computerize the system. bI had proposed that we automate the
process of requesting a warrant and automate approval so we could manage a
couple of million intercepts a day, rather than subvert the whole process.b
But such a system would have required close coordination with the courts, and
NSA officials werenbt interested in that, Binney says. Instead they continued
to haul in data on a grand scale. Asked how many
communicationsbbtransactions,b in NSAbs lingobthe agency has intercepted
since 9/11, Binney estimates the number at bbetween 15 and 20 trillion, the
aggregate over 11 years.b

When Barack Obama took office, Binney hoped the new administration might be
open to reforming the program to address his constitutional concerns. He and
another former senior NSA analyst, J. Kirk Wiebe, tried to bring the idea of
an automated warrant-approval system to the attention of the Department of
Justicebs inspector general. They were given the brush-off. bThey said, oh,
OK, we canbt comment,b Binney says.

Sitting in a restaurant not far from NSA headquarters, the place where he
spent nearly 40 years of his life, Binney held his thumb and forefinger close
together. bWe are, like, that far from a turnkey totalitarian state,b he
says.

There is still one technology preventing untrammeled government access to
private digital data: strong encryption. Anyonebfrom terrorists and weapons
dealers to corporations, financial institutions, and ordinary email
sendersbcan use it to seal their messages, plans, photos, and documents in
hardened data shells. For years, one of the hardest shells has been the
Advanced Encryption Standard, one of several algorithms used by much of the
world to encrypt data. Available in three different strengthsb128 bits, 192
bits, and 256 bitsbitbs incorporated in most commercial email programs and
web browsers and is considered so strong that the NSA has even approved its
use for top-secret US government communications. Most experts say that a
so-called brute-force computer attack on the algorithmbtrying one combination
after another to unlock the encryptionbwould likely take longer than the age
of the universe. For a 128-bit cipher, the number of trial-and-error attempts
would be 340 undecillion (1036).

Breaking into those complex mathematical shells like the AES is one of the
key reasons for the construction going on in Bluffdale. That kind of
cryptanalysis requires two major ingredients: super-fast computers to conduct
brute-force attacks on encrypted messages and a massive number of those
messages for the computers to analyze. The more messages from a given target,
the more likely it is for the computers to detect telltale patterns, and
Bluffdale will be able to hold a great many messages. bWe questioned it one
time,b says another source, a senior intelligence manager who was also
involved with the planning. bWhy were we building this NSA facility? And,
boy, they rolled out all the old guysbthe crypto guys.b According to the
official, these experts told then-director of national intelligence Dennis
Blair, bYoubve got to build this thing because we just donbt have the
capability of doing the code-breaking.b It was a candid admission. In the
long war between the code breakers and the code makersbthe tens of thousands
of cryptographers in the worldwide computer security industrybthe code
breakers were admitting defeat.

So the agency had one major ingredientba massive data storage facilitybunder
way. Meanwhile, across the country in Tennessee, the government was working
in utmost secrecy on the other vital element: the most powerful computer the
world has ever known.

The plan was launched in 2004 as a modern-day Manhattan Project. Dubbed the
High Productivity Computing Systems program, its goal was to advance computer
speed a thousandfold, creating a machine that could execute a quadrillion
(1015) operations a second, known as a petaflopbthe computer equivalent of
breaking the land speed record. And as with the Manhattan Project, the venue
chosen for the supercomputing program was the town of Oak Ridge in eastern
Tennessee, a rural area where sharp ridges give way to low, scattered hills,
and the southwestward-flowing Clinch River bends sharply to the southeast.
About 25 miles from Knoxville, it is the bsecret cityb where uranium- 235 was
extracted for the first atomic bomb. A sign near the exit read: what you see
here, what you do here, what you hear here, when you leave here, let it stay
here. Today, not far from where that sign stood, Oak Ridge is home to the
Department of Energybs Oak Ridge National Laboratory, and itbs engaged in a
new secret war. But this time, instead of a bomb of almost unimaginable
power, the weapon is a computer of almost unimaginable speed.

In 2004, as part of the supercomputing program, the Department of Energy
established its Oak Ridge Leadership Computing Facility for multiple agencies
to join forces on the project. But in reality there would be two tracks, one
unclassified, in which all of the scientific work would be public, and
another top-secret, in which the NSA could pursue its own computer covertly.
bFor our purposes, they had to create a separate facility,b says a former
senior NSA computer expert who worked on the project and is still associated
with the agency. (He is one of three sources who described the program.) It
was an expensive undertaking, but one the NSA was desperate to launch.

Known as the Multiprogram Research Facility, or Building 5300, the $41
million, five-story, 214,000-square-foot structure was built on a plot of
land on the labbs East Campus and completed in 2006. Behind the brick walls
and green-tinted windows, 318 scientists, computer engineers, and other staff
work in secret on the cryptanalytic applications of high-speed computing and
other classified projects. The supercomputer center was named in honor of
George R. Cotter, the NSAbs now-retired chief scientist and head of its
information technology program. Not that youbd know it. bTherebs no sign on
the door,b says the ex-NSA computer expert.

At the DOEbs unclassified center at Oak Ridge, work progressed at a furious
pace, although it was a one-way street when it came to cooperation with the
closemouthed people in Building 5300. Nevertheless, the unclassified team had
its Cray XT4 supercomputer upgraded to a warehouse-sized XT5. Named Jaguar
for its speed, it clocked in at 1.75 petaflops, officially becoming the
worldbs fastest computer in 2009.

Meanwhile, over in Building 5300, the NSA succeeded in building an even
faster supercomputer. bThey made a big breakthrough,b says another former
senior intelligence official, who helped oversee the program. The NSAbs
machine was likely similar to the unclassified Jaguar, but it was much faster
out of the gate, modified specifically for cryptanalysis and targeted against
one or more specific algorithms, like the AES. In other words, they were
moving from the research and development phase to actually attacking
extremely difficult encryption systems. The code-breaking effort was up and
running.

The breakthrough was enormous, says the former official, and soon afterward
the agency pulled the shade down tight on the project, even within the
intelligence community and Congress. bOnly the chairman and vice chairman and
the two staff directors of each intelligence committee were told about it,b
he says. The reason? bThey were thinking that this computing breakthrough was
going to give them the ability to crack current public encryption.b

In addition to giving the NSA access to a tremendous amount of Americansb
personal data, such an advance would also open a window on a trove of foreign
secrets. While today most sensitive communications use the strongest
encryption, much of the older data stored by the NSA, including a great deal
of what will be transferred to Bluffdale once the center is complete, is
encrypted with more vulnerable ciphers. bRemember,b says the former
intelligence official, ba lot of foreign government stuff webve never been
able to break is 128 or less. Break all that and youbll find out a lot more
of what you didnbt knowbstuff webve already storedbso therebs an enormous
amount of information still in there.b The NSA believes itbs on the verge of
breaking a key encryption algorithmbopening up hoards of data.

That, he notes, is where the value of Bluffdale, and its mountains of
long-stored data, will come in. What canbt be broken today may be broken
tomorrow. bThen you can see what they were saying in the past,b he says. bBy
extrapolating the way they did business, it gives us an indication of how
they may do things now.b The danger, the former official says, is that itbs
not only foreign government information that is locked in weaker algorithms,
itbs also a great deal of personal domestic communications, such as
Americansb email intercepted by the NSA in the past decade.

But first the supercomputer must break the encryption, and to do that, speed
is everything. The faster the computer, the faster it can break codes. The
Data Encryption Standard, the 56-bit predecessor to the AES, debuted in 1976
and lasted about 25 years. The AES made its first appearance in 2001 and is
expected to remain strong and durable for at least a decade. But if the NSA
has secretly built a computer that is considerably faster than machines in
the unclassified arena, then the agency has a chance of breaking the AES in a
much shorter time. And with Bluffdale in operation, the NSA will have the
luxury of storing an ever-expanding archive of intercepts until that
breakthrough comes along.

But despite its progress, the agency has not finished building at Oak Ridge,
nor is it satisfied with breaking the petaflop barrier. Its next goal is to
reach exaflop speed, one quintillion (1018) operations a second, and
eventually zettaflop (1021) and yottaflop.

These goals have considerable support in Congress. Last November a bipartisan
group of 24 senators sent a letter to President Obama urging him to approve
continued funding through 2013 for the Department of Energybs exascale
computing initiative (the NSAbs budget requests are classified). They cited
the necessity to keep up with and surpass China and Japan. bThe race is on to
develop exascale computing capabilities,b the senators noted. The reason was
clear: By late 2011 the Jaguar (now with a peak speed of 2.33 petaflops)
ranked third behind Japanbs bK Computer,b with an impressive 10.51 petaflops,
and the Chinese Tianhe-1A system, with 2.57 petaflops.

But the real competition will take place in the classified realm. To secretly
develop the new exaflop (or higher) machine by 2018, the NSA has proposed
constructing two connecting buildings, totaling 260,000 square feet, near its
current facility on the East Campus of Oak Ridge. Called the Multiprogram
Computational Data Center, the buildings will be low and wide like giant
warehouses, a design necessary for the dozens of computer cabinets that will
compose an exaflop-scale machine, possibly arranged in a cluster to minimize
the distance between circuits. According to a presentation delivered to DOE
employees in 2009, it will be an bunassuming facility with limited view from
roads,b in keeping with the NSAbs desire for secrecy. And it will have an
extraordinary appetite for electricity, eventually using about 200 megawatts,
enough to power 200,000 homes. The computer will also produce a gargantuan
amount of heat, requiring 60,000 tons of cooling equipment, the same amount
that was needed to serve both of the World Trade Center towers.

In the meantime Cray is working on the next step for the NSA, funded in part
by a $250 million contract with the Defense Advanced Research Projects
Agency. Itbs a massively parallel supercomputer called Cascade, a prototype
of which is due at the end of 2012. Its development will run largely in
parallel with the unclassified effort for the DOE and other partner agencies.
That project, due in 2013, will upgrade the Jaguar XT5 into an XK6, codenamed
Titan, upping its speed to 10 to 20 petaflops.

Yottabytes and exaflops, septillions and undecillionsbthe race for computing
speed and data storage goes on. In his 1941 story bThe Library of Babel,b
Jorge Luis Borges imagined a collection of information where the entire
worldbs knowledge is stored but barely a single word is understood. In
Bluffdale the NSA is constructing a library on a scale that even Borges might
not have contemplated. And to hear the masters of the agency tell it, itbs
only a matter of time until every word is illuminated.

James Bamford (washwriter at gmail.com) is the author of The Shadow Factory: The
Ultra-Secret NSA from 9/11 to the Eavesdropping on America.




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From: warner at lothar.com (Brian Warner)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:54:21 -0700
Subject: [tahoe-dev] several questions about tahoe backup
Message-ID: <mailman.3323.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 3/1/12 11:50 AM, Dmitriy Kazimirov wrote:

> 98% of this are results of tahoe backup runs and deep-check --repair
> --add-lease takes more than 2 days to complete and it never completed
> successfully for one reason or another. Usually it crashes on
> network(I think related to gateway's network connection) errors and
> starts from beginning.

Yeah, I'm really satrting to think that we need that RepairAgent that we
keep talking about: something inside the tahoe client node (or inside
the "Agent" that we discusses briefly at the last Summit) which can
manage a rate-limited asynchronous interruptable/restartable
check/repair/renew process. Doing it entirely from the command line is
too fragile: it basically implies that the whole process needs to
complete before 1: your CLI command gets killed, 2: the node gets
bounced, 3: the client's connections to the storage servers remain
intact.

The hard part about the RepairAgent has always been how to configure it.
But I'm starting to think that tahoe.cfg should just be able to list a
couple of aliases and a frequency (once/day, etc).

> I tried to make specific aliases for each tahoe backup destination and
> parallize deep-check but new questions arise:
> - if other gateway performs deep-check on directory, and at same time
>   - tahoe backup writes new backup - is it safe?Will worse possible
>   result be 'Uncoordinate Write Error' but no data loss except
>   possible current backup session?

Backups use almost entirely immutable files and directories, and
immutable files are not vulnerable to collision problems. The only
mutable directory is the top-level one (which contains the timestamped
subdirectories and the "Latest" link). So the only potential danger is
that the "tahoe backup" is modifying that directory while the
"deep-check --repair" is repairing it.

It's hard to say what the chances are of bad things happening here. A
couple of thoughts:

 - "tahoe backup" modifies the top-level directory at the very end of
   the process, while "deep-check --repair" visits the top directory at
   the very beginning of the process. If you start both at the same
   time, they probably won't collide.
 - if the directory needed repairing, then the "tahoe backup"
   modify-directory operation will effectively repair it at the same
   time, perhaps reducing the chances that deepcheck--repair will try to
   repair it later
 - The chances of UCWE resulting in lost data depends upon the encoding
   parameters and how many simultaneous writers there are. With 3-of-10,
   assuming all shares are available, there'd have to be 5 simultaneous
   versions of the file before none of them are recoverable (two shares
   of version A, two of version B, two*C, two*D, two*E). Which
   theoretically means that one tahoe-backup writer, one repairer, and
   one previously-existing version should always result in at least one
   version being recoverable. But, this is highly dependent upon what
   sort of damage the repairer was trying to fix in the first place.

> - if several deep-checks are being performed on directory, from
>   different gateways(due for example script error) - is it safe?(I
>   knew it does not make sense to do so but what will be worse possible
>   result?)

(incidentally deep-check without --repair is always safe: it doesn't
modify the shares at all)

Multiple deep-check --repair operations on the same directory runs the
same UCWE risk as multiple writers trying to modify a directory at the
same time: the danger is that each will successfully replace shares on
different servers at the same time, resulting in some old "A" shares,
some new "B" shares, and some new (different) "C" shares. Having a
variety of share versions reduces your recoverability margins.

We haven't ever tried to seriously model or test this. It would be
interesting to create a directory, set up multiple clients, have them
all repeatedly hammer away at it (making modifications) and measure how
many UCWEs they get, and when/if the file becomes unrecoverable. It'd
probably be a good idea to instrument the storage servers to send
details of how the shares are changing to a common logfile, so we could
reconstruct the process later.

cheers,
 -Brian
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From kb at karelbilek.com  Sat Mar 17 10:53:19 2012
From: kb at karelbilek.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Karel_B=EDlek?=)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:53:19 +0100
Subject: [tt] [silk] library.nu
In-Reply-To: <1331498371.12520.6.camel@anglachel>
References: <20120311093151.GO9891@leitl.org>
  <1331498371.12520.6.camel@anglachel>
Message-ID: <CAGUkT8baerLP6WAdah+eTzGk22x-qYwP5862xLYn9s0+Zi9RgQ@mail.gmail.com>

There is something here
http://free-books.us.to/

torrents of... I guess the index here (with magnet links)
ftp://free-books.us.to/repository_torrent/

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Ted Smith <teddks at gmail.com> wrote:

> <deleted all previous text since my comment is an irrelevant tangent --
> hopefully of some value.>
>
> One of the things I've come to love about the sort of people that are on
> tt/cypherpunks is that they tend to care more about action than
> rhetoric. People can debate "intellectual property" and "pirates vs.
> freedom fighters" forever, if you let them. But that seems not to happen
> here, at least not very often.
>
> So, who has a library.nu rip? I'd seed it.
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature
> which had a name of signature.asc]




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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:40:43 +0100
Subject: [tahoe-dev] several questions about tahoe backup
Message-ID: <20120317204043.GJ9891@leitl.org>

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From: kb at karelbilek.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Karel_B=EDlek?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 01:16:21 +0100
Subject: [tt] [silk] library.nu
In-Reply-To: <CAGUkT8baerLP6WAdah+eTzGk22x-qYwP5862xLYn9s0+Zi9RgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20120311093151.GO9891@leitl.org>
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  <CAGUkT8baerLP6WAdah+eTzGk22x-qYwP5862xLYn9s0+Zi9RgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGUkT8ZeDQCD9wnG5o-b3FqucJS8Xw8gtkZ43_5SS3gWPajo7w@mail.gmail.com>

nope, the torrents are the books themselves (without any metadata)

all the metadata is in one big csv here
ftp://free-books.us.to/content/

it should be easy to reconstruct a mirror from these

2012/3/17 Karel Bmlek <kb at karelbilek.com>

> There is something here
> http://free-books.us.to/
>
> torrents of... I guess the index here (with magnet links)
> ftp://free-books.us.to/repository_torrent/
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Ted Smith <teddks at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> <deleted all previous text since my comment is an irrelevant tangent --
>> hopefully of some value.>
>>
>> One of the things I've come to love about the sort of people that are on
>> tt/cypherpunks is that they tend to care more about action than
>> rhetoric. People can debate "intellectual property" and "pirates vs.
>> freedom fighters" forever, if you let them. But that seems not to happen
>> here, at least not very often.
>>
>> So, who has a library.nu rip? I'd seed it.
>>
>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature
>> which had a name of signature.asc]




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From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 10:49:05 +0100
Subject: [tt] [silk] library.nu
In-Reply-To: <CAGUkT8ZeDQCD9wnG5o-b3FqucJS8Xw8gtkZ43_5SS3gWPajo7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20120311093151.GO9891@leitl.org>
  <1331498371.12520.6.camel@anglachel>
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On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 01:16:21AM +0100, Karel Bmlek wrote:
> nope, the torrents are the books themselves (without any metadata)
> 
> all the metadata is in one big csv here
> ftp://free-books.us.to/content/
> 
> it should be easy to reconstruct a mirror from these

You need the files themselves, the SQL DB dump (last one 261 MB,
uncompressed 1.3 GByte), the PHP sources, and a http server with 
PHP and an SQL dbase (there's a standalone USBWeberserv version
which can run from an USB flash stick which is presumably Windows-only.  
And about 8.5 TByte of disk space (789 directores, each about 
10 GByte), of course. Can be spread over directories, the sources 
do allow for that.

The site gives the following directions to set up a mirror
(I have not done any of the above or below, so I can't vouch it
will all work):

Creating a mirror of the Library Genesis


The Library Genesis has three main components:
1) book repository (book files)
2) MySQL database (book records)
3) Web-server (dynamic Web-pages to link the book records and book files, this is the libgen PHP source-code)

As of writing this, there are just over 320,000 books in the Library Genesis repository. The book repository is broken up into directories of a 1000 books each. The name of each book is actually the MD5-hash of the file contents. This allows for robust querying and helps avoid duplicate entries. The MySQL database links book records with book in the repository. The Web-server hosts the PHP-files that request a book info from the database and serve it to the user.

I. Download the libgen book repository.

This is the easiest as well as the most time consuming process, as the repository is 2.5 TB!
Going at 1.0MB/s, it would take a full month to completely download. Fortunately, the Library
can function while incomplete!

You will need a bittorrent client (e.g. utorrent for Windows or Transmission for Linux and Mac) and a RAR archive handler (e.g. 7-zip for Windows or unrar for Linux).

If you do not have the unrar package on Ubuntu, you can install it easily:

Code:
$ sudo apt-get install unrar


Then download the most recent .torrent archive of the repository from http://free-books.dontexist.com/repository_torrent/ .
This file will have a name like 0-276.rar, meaning it has the torrents for the approximately 276000 books. Each .torrent file
contains just one of the 1000-book directories. You can unpack this .rar:

Code:
$ unrar x 0-276.rar


Then open up Transmission and start downloading every torrent.

That's pretty much it for obtaining the repository. You may need more space, or to divide the repository up over multiple directories or hard drives. That's more than okay; libgen is robust enough to handle this.

II. Install the MySQL database

If you have not previously installed MySQL, you need to do that now.

Code:
$ sudo apt-get install mysql-server


During installation, you will be asked to provide a password for the database's root user. Write this down as you will need it later.

Make sure your MySQL server is running:

Code:
$ /sbin/service mysqld start


And then you can issue commands to mysql using

Code:
$ sudo mysql


Enter the following into the mysql prompt:

Code:
CREATE USER 'bookuser'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'bookpass';
GRANT USAGE ON * . * TO 'bookuser'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'bookpass' WITH MAX_QUERIES_PER_HOUR 0 MAX_CONNECTIONS_PER_HOUR 0 MAX_UPDATES_PER_HOUR 0 MAX_USER_CONNECTIONS 0 ;
GRANT SELECT , LOCK TABLES ON `bookwarrior` . * TO 'bookuser'@'localhost';


You can then exit mysql with
Code:
exit

After this, make sure you have downloaded the most recent MySQL database dump from your preferred libgen mirror (e.g. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3268251/backup-last.rar).
Extract the .sql file and save it to your machine under a name you can remember (e.g. dump.sql).

To set up the database:
Code:
$ mysql -p -u root < dump.sql


You will be prompted for your mysql password, and then your database should be set up.

III. Get the webcode up and running

First, make sure you have apache2 and php5 installed. Ubuntu comes with apache2 by default, but not php5.

Code:
$ sudo apt-get install php5


Restart apache2 after installing php5.

Code:
$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart


Now download the source code for the website, again from your favorite mirror. (I use http://assembla.com/spaces/libgen ).

Unpack it into a directory in your apache2 site directory (default /var/www). I use /var/www/libgen.

Open up config.php and make the following edits:

Code:
        // mysql params
        $dbhost = 'localhost';
        $db = 'bookwarrior';
        $dbtable = 'updated';
        $dbuser = 'root';
        $dbpass = 'My_pass_here'; // <-- Put your own MySQL password here


Scroll down and make sure repository also points to the right place:

Code:
        $repository = array(
                '0-300000' => '/path/to/libgen'); // <-- Put path to your libgen repository here.


Last, but not least, create a file called index.php. It's contents should simply be:

Code:
<?php
    header('Location:search.php');
    die();
?>


And then just load up your web browser and navigatee to yourdomain.com/libgen/

And bam, there it is.

IV. Things that can go wrong
A few things can go wrong:
1) If you can get to the site but see nothing at all (blank page), it probably means you forgot to restart apache2 after installing php5.
2) If you don't have access to the site, your problem is probably with apache2 settings or web server settings. Try navigating to the site using http://127.0.0.1/libgen/. If you can get the site like this, but not through the Internet, make sure your network permissions are set up correctly.
3) If you try to download a book and get a File not found error, your apache2 probably can't access your books. Make sure apache has read access to all the books. You can do this by going to your repository directory and typing
Code:
chmod -R 755 *

4) A host of other things. Post on the forums if you have questions. They're really helpful there.

The manual has grown from this topic.




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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 01:15:41 +0400
Subject: [tahoe-dev] keeping private grids private
Message-ID: <mailman.3324.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Thanks for your responses, Markus and Brian. Running the grid on a VPN
is still the best option, it seems (with firewall rules to block non-VPN
traffic). Only VPN clients can see the introducer, and connect to other
nodes on the VPN. But there are vulnerabilities.

We've been using OpenVPN's commercial Access Server, which is presumably
well secured. However, the setup is vulnerable to attackers with
physical access to the server. We've mitigated the risk by encrypting
the server's credential databases, but determined attackers can read
passphrases from memory. We've tried running the server locally, and
forwarding the access port to a VPS, but connections (through commercial
VPNs) haven't been reliable enough, and latencies are huge. Still, we do
control the introducer, and could readily move our grid to a new VPN, if
necessary.

OpenVPN's default star topology is also problematic, and creating mesh
networks seems complicated. We've looked at CloudVPN, but nodes can be
cloned, and there's no mechanism for refusing connections. Access
control depends on firewall rules, and using a public DHCP server with
static mapping and static ARP. That may be the way to go, however, if
the OpenVPN server bottleneck becomes an issue.
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From: stu.card at critical.com (Stuart W. Card)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:10:08 -0400
Subject: [tahoe-dev] Idea for a Publish/Subscribe Message System,
	on Tahoe-LAFS
Message-ID: <mailman.3325.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

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all --

Sorry to chime in late and initially without reference citations, but I
wanted you all to be aware of some work we have been doing recently at
Syracuse University and my company Critical Technologies Inc., using
Tahoe-LAFS as a principal building block for a publish-subscribe-query
distributed blackboard that will be the backbone of a framework for
distributed sensing/computation/control. A unifying theme is use of
capability based security throughout the stack, from the underlying
microkernel-based hypervisor all the way up through the mobile agent
based applications.

We are working towards compliance with OMG Data Distribution Service
(DDS) API specs, but initially have done only proof-of-concept work
without regard for such specs. We are looking at plugging in Tahoe as an
archival message store for OpenDDS, OpenSplice or RTI-DDS.

I am limited in what I can say in public prior to obtaining specific
permission from our funding sources, but as Tahoe is a community
supported product that is central to our architecture, I believe I can
discuss here those aspects directly related to Tahoe development.

I will go out on a limb and say that I think the whole notion of mutable
files is a mistake. We currently use them only for directories, and
there only until such time as we develop a replacement based on our
architecture. Instead of mutable files, we prefer revision control: once
a message (file) is published, it is immutable for all time; but a new
version can be published, as either a complete snapshot or a diff
(respect to rsync), with suitable meta-data markups and pointers in
directories (also to be immutable but version controlled).

To provide notification of new publications (including revisions of old
ones), we use the NACK Oriented Reliable Multicast (NORM) transport
protocol, which is the _only_ IETF standards track reliable multicast
protocol that offers both statistical reliability (erasure code FEC) and
acknowledged delivery (ARQ), combining them in a Type II Hybrid ARQ/FEC
(which can approach the Shannon limit despite dynamically varying
channel error rates). Urgent short messages that do not require
persistent archival can also be sent via NORM without the latencies and
costs inherent to Tahoe. Long term, we also want to enable use of NORM
as a multicast transport for Tahoe, in place of multiple unicast TCP
connections.

We have some notions about using URIs as capabilities, not only for
Tahoe, but also for the microvisor and other subsystems. We want to
define a syntax and semantics for extended capability URIs that can
embed policies (including PKI based restrictions on who can exercise the
capability, thus integrating Role Based Access Control with
capabilities), and short "handle" URIs (that merely reference long URIs
with their embedded information). We intend to develop capability
middleware (including proxies subsuming the capability security notion
of "membrane") that will enable programmers and admins who are not [yet]
familiar with capability security to nonetheless utilize it with a
minimum of unintended capability leaks.

If any of you find any of the above interesting and want to discuss it,
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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:44:09 +0100
Subject: bitcoin is worse is better
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    Pre-requisites
    Delay
        Impractical?
    Contemporary objections
        Cryptographers' objections
            Aesthetics
            How Worse is Better
    External links

Some wonder who is the real man under the Satoshi Nakamoto mask; a hard
question - how many libertarian cryptographers are there? But the interesting
thing is, Satoshi could be anybody. Bitcoin involves no major intellectual
breakthroughs, so Satoshi need have no credentials in cryptography or be
anything but a self-taught programmer! Satoshi published his whitepaper May
20091, but if you look at the cryptography that makes up Bitcoin, they can
basically be divided into:

    Public key cryptography
    Cryptographic signatures
    Cryptographic hash functions
    Hash chain used for proof-of-work
        Hash tree
        Bit gold
    cryptographic time-stamps

Pre-requisites

    "So the first answer to Why Now? is simply 'Because it's time.' I can't
tell you why it took as long for weblogs to happen as it did, except to say it
had absolutely nothing to do with technology. We had every bit of technology
we needed to do weblogs the day Mosaic launched the first forms-capable
browser. Every single piece of it was right there. Instead, we got Geocities.
Why did we get Geocities and not weblogs? We didn't know what we were
doing."2

The interesting thing is that by even the most generous accounting, all the
pieces were in place for at least 8 years before Satoshi's publication, which
was followed more than half a year later3 by the first public4 prototype. If
we look at the citations in the whitepaper and others, and then order the
relevant technologies by year in descending order:

    2001-20055: Nick Szabo, Bit Gold
    2001: SHA-256 finalized
    1998: Wei Dai, B-money6
    1997: HashCash
    1992-1993: Proof-of-work for spam7
    1991: cryptographic timestamps
    1980: public key cryptography8
    1979: Hash tree

This lack of novelty is part of the appeal - the fewer new parts of a
cryptosystem, the less danger9. All that was lacking was a Satoshi to start a
Bitcoin.
Delay

But why this delay? If the idea is easy to understand and uses basic ideas10,
if it is very far from the cutting-edge of cryptography11, then there's no
obvious reason it would not be seriously tried. Certainly the cypherpunks of
the '90s were wildly creative, inventing everything from Cypherpunk/Mixmaster
to MojoNation to assassination markets to data havens (memorably depicted in
Cryptonomicon). We have already seen 2 of their proposed cryptocurrencies, and
proof-of-work was one of the most common proposals to deal with the rising
tsunami of spam12. Why did Bitcoin take a decade to be born? The problem nags
at me - similar to the historical question of why England experienced the
Industrial Revolution and grew to empire, and not China, which seems better
equipped in every respect13. There must be an answer.
Impractical?

Is the problem one of resources? In the whitepaper, Satoshi remarks:

    A block header with no transactions would be about 80 bytes. If we suppose
blocks are generated every 10 minutes, 80 bytes * 6 * 24 * 365 = 4.2MB per
year. With computer systems typically selling with 2GB of RAM as of 2008, and
Moore's Law predicting current growth of 1.2GB per year, storage should not be
a problem even if the block headers must be kept in memory.

That's fine to say in 2008, after many doublings. Would memory be a problem in
the 1990s? It doesn't have to be. The difficulty of bitcoin mining is
obviously adjustable, so the problem boils down to:

    disk usage
        With a smaller hash like SHA114, the 80 bytes can be shrunk
        10 minutes is not graven in stone; why not 20 minutes? Right there we
have halved the hash tree
        the hash tree can be 'garbage collected' and shrunk15

        it is only necessary to maintain a full hash tree if one is paranoid.
        In practice, like many programs of the era such as mail or Usenet
clients, the default could simply be to hold onto the last n blocks/hashes
(Satoshi estimates 12kb/day); this would consume a limited amount of disk
space.

    network connectivity is solvable by solutions to #1
        A function of the existing hash tree size
        And frequency of new transactions

It's worth pointing out that it's generally expected that at some point
ordinary desktop users like you or me are expected to stop being full-fledged
nodes and bitcoin miners and will instead make use of some specialist service
running powerful servers of its own; in a counterfactual universe where
Bitcoin was begun in the early 1990s, the changeover would simply have
occurred sooner. (And with all the investment money desperately investing in
the first Internet bubble, it would be quite easy to start such a service
regardless of the technical demands.)
Contemporary objections

As well, few of the objections to cryptocurrencies seem to have been
"computers which can run it are fantastically expensive"16. In computing,
applications and techniques are often invented many decades before Moore's law
makes them practically useful17, but this does not seem to have happened with
Bitcoin. A similar objection obtains with patents or published papers; if
Bitcoin was a known idea, where are they? I have yet to see anybody point out
what patents might have deterred cryptography researchers & implementers; the
obvious answer is that there were none. Because there was no investor
interest? Not that Satoshi needed investors, but there were a tremendous
number of online payment services started in the '90s, each searching for the
secret sauce that would let them win 'mindshare' and ride 'network effects' to
victory; DigiCash again comes to mind.

So if the basic idea is accessible, and it's useful on consumer-grade hardware
for the last 20 years or so, then what's the problem?
Cryptographers' objections

I think it's instructive to look at Satoshi's ANN thread on the Cryptography
newsgroup/mailing list; particularly the various early criticisms:

    disk/bandwidth won't scale18
    proposal is underspecified (omitting all the possible race conditions and
desynchronization attacks and scenarios in a distributed system) and details
available only in ad hoc code19
    conflating transactions with bitcoin creation requires constant inflation
    it is very difficult to achieve consensus on large amounts of distributed
data even without incentives to corrupt it or attacks
    domination of the hash tree by fast nodes and starvation of transactions
    pseudonymity & linkable transactions20 (irreversible transactions also
implies double-spend must be very quickly detectable)

As well, let's toss in some recent blog posts on Bitcoin by the cryptographer
Ben Laurie and Victor Grischchenko; Laurie particularly criticizes21 the
hash-contest which guarantees heavy resource consumption:

    "Bitcoin"
    "Bitcoin 2"
    "Bitcoin is Slow Motion"
    "Decentralised Currencies Are Probably Impossible: But Letbs At Least
Make Them Efficient"
    "Bitcoin?"

What's the common thread? Is there any particular fatal flaw of Bitcoin that
explains why no one but Satoshi came up with it?
Aesthetics

No! What's wrong with Bitcoin is that it's ugly. It is not elegant22. It's
clever to define your bitcoin balance as whatever hash tree is longer, has won
more races to find a new block, but it's ugly to make your network's security
depend solely on having more brute-force computing power than your opponents,
ugly to need now and in perpetuity at least half the processing power just to
avoid double-spending23. It's clever to have a P2P network distributing
updated blocks which can be cheaply & independently checked, but there are
tons of ugly edge cases which Satoshi has not proven (in the sense that most
cryptosystems have security proofs) to be safe and he himself says that what
happens will be a 'coin flip' at some points. It's ugly to have a hash tree
that just keeps growing and is going to be gigabytes and gigabytes in not
terribly many years. It's ugly to have a system which can't be used offline
without proxies and workarounds, unlike Chaum's elegant solution24. It's ugly
to have a system that has to track all transactions, publicly; even if one can
use bitcoins anonymously with effort, that doesn't count for much - a
cryptographer has learned from incidents like anon.penet.fi and decades of
successful attacks on pseudonymity25. And what's with that arbitrary looking
21 million bitcoin limit? Couldn't it have been a rounder number or at least a
power of 2? (Not that the bitcoin mining is much better, as it's a massive
give-away to early adopters. Coase's theorem may say it doesn't matter how
bitcoins are allocated in the long run, but such a blatant bribe to early
adopters rubs against the grain. Again, ugly and inelegant.) Bitcoins can
simply disappear if you send them to an invalid address. And so on.
How Worse is Better

In short, Bitcoin is a perfect example of Worse is Better (original essay).
You can see the tradeoffs that Richard P. Gabriel enumerates: Bitcoin has many
edge cases; it lacks many properties one would desire for a cryptocurrency;
the whitepaper is badly underspecified; much of the behavior is socially
determined by what the miners and clients collectively agree to accept, not by
the protocol; etc.

But it seems to work. Just like Unix, there were countless ways to destroy
your data or crash the system, which didn't exist on more 'proper' OSs like
OpenVMS, and there were countless lacking features compared to systems like
ITS or the Lisp machine OSs. But like the proverbial cockroaches, Unix spread,
networked, survived - and the rest did not.26

A cryptographer would have difficulty coming up with Bitcoin because it is so
ugly and there are so many elegant features he wants in it. Programmers and
mathematicians often speak of 'taste', and how they lead one to better
solutions. A cryptographer's taste is for cryptosystems optimized for
efficiency and theorems; it is not for systems optimized for virulence, for
their sociological appeal27. Centralized systems are natural solutions because
they are easy, like the integers are easy; but like the integers are but a
vanishingly small subset of the reals, so too are centralized systems a tiny
subset of decentralized ones28. DigiCash and all the other cryptocurrency
startups may have had many nifty features, may have been far more efficient,
and all that jazz, but they died anyway. They had no communities, and their
centralization meant that they fell with their corporate patrons. They had to
win in their compressed timeframe or die out completely. But "that is not dead
which can eternal lie".

It may be that Bitcoin's greatest virtue is not its deflation, nor its
microtransactions, but its viral distributed nature; it can wait for its
opportunity. "If you sit by the bank of the river long enough, you can watch
the bodies of your enemies float by."
External links

    Silk Road -(using the Silk Road marketplace)

    Original essay published on Bitcoin Weekly (7 comments)
        Reddit discussion
        Hacker News discussion

    Nick Szabo's reply/rebuttal, "Bitcoin, what took ye so long?"

    bitcoin.org was registered 18 August 2008, so presumably Satoshi had been
developing the bitcoin idea at least as early as 2008.b)

    "A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy", by Clay Shirky, published July 1, 2003
on the "Networks, Economics, and Culture" MLb)

    The first revision in the Github repository is dated August 2009 by
'sirius-m'.b)

    Satoshi claims that before he write the whitepaper, he wrote a
prototypeb)

    It's hard to figure out when Szabo devised bit gold; his post claims to be
from December 2008 but the URL indicates 2005 and it is linked in November
2008 emails. Szabo has long been interested in proof-of-work systems, writing
on them in ~1998. A paper started in 2001 motivates the existence of bit gold
and describes, but that may be material from the 2004 or 2005 revisions. Hal
Finney mentioned bit gold in 2008 (in the context of a bitcoin discussion)
describing Szabo's proposal as 'many years ago', and inasmuch as Hal has been
active in cryptography circles since the '80s (was a member of the Cypherpunks
mailing list etc.), it seems unlikely Hal was speaking of something then just
3 years ago.b)

    In the same vein of 'the network is a third party which keeps a copy of
all signed transactions', you could include Ian Grigg's 2005 paper "Triple
Entry Accounting".b)

    "Pricing via Processing, Or, Combating Junk Mail", , Dwork 1993, published
in CRYPTO'92.b)

    This is Satoshi's citation date; Diffie-Hellman, the first published
system, was in 1976, not 1980.b)

    In cryptography, new parts are guilty until proven innocent. Hundreds of
past systems have been broken, sometimes after decades of study & use.b)

    I am only a layman with an interest in cryptography, but I am not alone in
seeing this lack of really novel primitives or ideas in the Bitcoin scheme;
Ben Laurie expresses exactly this idea in an aside in a blog post attacking
Bitcoin:

        "A friend alerted to me to a sudden wave of excitement about Bitcoin.
I have to ask: why? What has changed in the last 10 years to make this work
when it didn't in, say, 1999, when many other related systems (including one
of my own) were causing similar excitement? Or in the 20 years since the wave
before that, in 1990? As far as I can see, nothing."

    b)

    One thinks of the formidable mathematical difficulties surrounding the
area of homomorphic encryption where one would expect any breakthrough to be
from a bona fide genius, or at least a credentialed expert.b)

    Although ironically, proof-of-work never seemed to go into widespread use
because of general inertia and because to deter large amounts of spam,
proof-of-work would deter legitimate users under some models; spam seems to
have been kept in check by better filtering techniques (eg. Paul Graham's "A
Plan for Spam" using Bayesian spam filtering) and legal action against botnets
& spammers.b)

    For more on that history, see Wikipedia on Industrial Revolution#Causes
for occurrence in Europe,
Chinese_industrialization#Reasons_for_the_delay_in_industrialization, the
Great Divergence; I strongly recommend Gregory Clark's A Farewell to Alms.b)

    SHA-1, as of 2011, has not been cracked in practice.b)

    My understanding is that simply no one has bothered to program this
functionality since 400MB is not that much space.b)

    Or rather, the objections were that cryptocurrencies had to be mobile -
usable on the contemporary PDAs and cellphones, with the computing power of a
watch.b)

    Garbage collection and most of artificial intelligence (or machine
learning in particular) seem to have waited decades for sufficiently fast
hardware. Indeed, I sometimes feel that Alan Kay's entire career has
essentially been sketching out what he could do if only he had some decent
cheap hardware.b)

    It probably will. Some informal projections have been made of what it
would take to run millions of transactions worth trillions of dollars, and
they tend to come in at comparable to the existing resource use of companies
like Google (which fund their own power plants or monopolize convenient
hydroelectric dams to run their datacenters).b)

    Recent criticism, too, sometimes focuses on the quality of the C++
codebase and ad hoc nature of many of the choices; from an anonymous Facebook
comment:

        "The protocol is not well-defined and clearly designed by an amateur
(that is, not someone who has done much protocol implementation work). It's a
binary protocol with a smattering of length-prefixing, null terminated
strings, etc. The messages look reasonable, just a horrible encoding. The
rules of the protocol are poorly defined and tightly coupled to
implementation; the implementation is done by someone who feels it's good and
well to have only 5 major source files for 17 KLOC. Due to lack of a
well-specified protocol, there is also a bit of client monoculture going on.

        It's worth noting that the whole system assumes SHA-256 -- the bitcoin
community says that rolling over to something else is just a matter of
introducing a new algo, but in actuality it's not nearly that simple. The
protocol has no concept of upgrading to different algos, so it would
necessitate a complete overhaul of the protocol (since there's a lot of
32-byte fields in there) AND a re-computation/rollover of the entire
transaction history. ...The protocol also has had no thought put into it re:
network architecture -- there are peers and that's it. Due to the
cryptographic nature of transactions, it's simply not possible to have
realtime transactions with bitcoin as the network scales (it already take 5-10
mins on average for the network to see a single transaction). Thus, there will
need to be some concept of a node in the network that can facilitate
interactions between two peers in a faster fashion, with the assumption of a
measure of trust. You shouldn't require it, of course, but it should be
defined, I think."

    Security expert Dan Kaminsky is similarly appalled at the bandwidth
requirements to scale (":0" was his emoticon) and predicts that the Bitcoin
network will eventually turn into a quasi-bank-like oligarchy of supernodes
(which changes the system and "offers a host of ugly semantics" since the
supernodes "don't need 50% -- just need to inconvenience 50% to accept your
opinion"). He comments that while "Normal Code" seems good but "Scratch the
surface, it's actually really bad", the Bitcoin codebase "Looks really bad up
front" and "Scratch the surface, it's actually surprisingly good". New Yorker
article's "The Crypto-currency: Bitcoin and its mysterious inventor":

        "'When I first looked at the code, I was sure I was going to be able
to break it', Kaminsky said, noting that the programming style was dense and
inscrutable. 'The way the whole thing was formatted was insane. Only the most
paranoid, painstaking coder in the world could avoid making mistakes.'...He
quickly identified nine ways to compromise the system...when he found the
right spot, there was a message waiting for him. 'Attack Removed', it said.
The same thing happened over and over, infuriating Kaminsky. 'I came up with
beautiful bugs', he said. 'But every time I went after the code there was a
line that addressed the problem.'...'I've never seen anything like it',
Kaminsky said, still in awe...'Either there's a team of people who worked on
this', Kaminsky said, 'or this guy is a genius.'"

    On a technical basis, he dislikes the use of SHA-256 as opposed to slower
time-lock crypto functions like bcrypt, because SHA-256 "can be accelerated
massively with GPUs" leading to GPU shortages and massive hashing disparities
between peers, and his slides conclude "BitCoin is actually well designed, if
you accept that anonymity and scaling forces the entire present model to be
shifted into something that effectively looks like banking"b)

    Nick Szabo, discussing Chaumian ecash ("the greatest simple equation since
e=mc2"), comments with almost palpable distaste of a hypothetical system akin
to Bitcoin in this respect:

        "A use-once-address communications mix plus forswearing any reputation
gain from keeping accounts, in theory also buys us unlinkability, but a
communications mix [BTC: "mixing service"; not necessarily easy] is weak and
very expensive."

    The most widely known, popular, and secure communications mix is probably
Tor; a number of flaws have been found in it over time, and Tor will never be
very secure - it's fundamentally difficult to impossible to have a anonymizing
communications mix which is also near real-time. Some flaws can't be removed
by the Tor network, like the ability of exit nodes to snoop on traffic (as has
been done many times, most memorably during the startup of Wikileaks).
Communications mixes are usually expensive in resources, so typically only
make up a part of an overall network - and the rest of the network leaks
considerable information, including in Bitcoin.b)

    Perry Metzger summarizes Laurie's approach:

        "I think people have missed the more subtle point that Ben Laurie made
here. Bitcoin requires the use of an unusual sort of secure consensus protocol
to work reliably, and such protocols are not known to exist in this context.
In the presence of such a protocol, however, there is no longer any need for
mining -- the system can simply elect a member to acquire a new coin every N
seconds via a secure election protocol (and those are known given the rest).
Thus, Ben's point that if you're going to have a system like bitcoin, one
could at least have an efficient system of this sort rather than a stupid one
based on an electrical potlatch."

    b)

    Not everyone agrees with me or those initial posters, though; "Bitcoins
create truly democratic policy, followers say", Canada.com:

        '"It's like the Mona Lisa." said Bruce Wagner, an IT consultant who
discovered bitcoin in October and now hosts an online TV show about it. "It's
a masterpiece of technology."'

    b)

    "Decentralised Currencies Are Probably Impossible: But Letbs At Least
Make Them Efficient", Ben Laurie:

        "Now that we understand the core problem, namely that of agreement, we
can quite easily understand Bitcoinbs solution to the problem. Bitcoin
defines the consensus group as ball the computing power in existenceb, and
requires participants to prove their possession of whatever fraction of this
power they care to spend on Bitcoin by using it to produce proof-of-work
tokens. And once we state the problem like this, we can quite clearly see the
flaw. Until at least half of the computing power in existence is actually used
to produce Bitcoins, we cannot know that we have consensus! If, for example,
1% of the total power availableStrictly, I mean energy rather than power,
since Bitcoin actually, in effect, sums power over time. is used to produce
Bitcoins at present (in fact, the amount is far less than that), then at any
point someone could come along with a further 1.1% of the total power and use
this to define their own consensusBy forking history right back to the first
block, and producing a hash chain that is longer than the current consensus.,
thus invalidating all the work, and all the money, of the initial group, and
instead take possession of the entire currency for themselves.

        ...Even worse, it is clear that arriving at the equilibrium state for
Bitcoin is incredibly expensive: half of all the computing power in existence
must be burnt, in perpetuity, maintaining agreement about the current state of
the currency. It also unknowable: we can never be sure that we actually are
burning half of all the power in existence, because we do not know how much
power exists."

    Laurie points out that in practice, the Bitcoin community does depend on a
centralized authority which periodically passes down 'blessed' block-chains -
the Bitcoin developers periodically hardwire known-good states of the
block-chain into the clients (which of course is a theoretical weakness).b)

    Chaum pays a price for his systems' ability to work offline. Don't take my
word for it; see Tim May in section 12.6.6 of his early '90s Cyphernomicon
(not to be confused with Stephenson's novel drawing heavily on it):

        "...Chaum went to great lengths to develop system which preserve
anonymity for single-spending instances, but which break anonymity and thus
reveal identity for double-spending instances. I'm not sure what market forces
caused him to think about this as being so important, but it creates many
headaches. Besides being clumsy, it require physical ID, it invokes a legal
system to try to collect from "double spenders", and it admits the extremely
serious breach of privacy by enabling stings. For example, Alice pays Bob a
unit of money, then quickly Alice spends that money before Bob can...Bob is
then revealed as a "double spender," and his identity revealed to whomever
wanted it...Alice, IRS, Gestapo, etc. A very broken idea. Acceptable mainly
for small transactions.

            Multi-spending vs. on-line clearing
                I favor on-line clearing. Simply put: the first spending is
the only spending. The guy who gets to the train locker where the cash is
stored is the guy who gets it. This ensure that the burden of maintaining the
secret is on the secret holder.
                When Alice and Bob transfer money, Alice makes the transfer,
Bob confirms it as valid (or verifies that his bank has received the deposit),
and the transaction is complete.
                With network speeds increasing dramatically, on-line clearing
should be feasible for most transactions. Off-line systems may of course be
useful, especially for small transactions, the ones now handled with coins and
small bills."

    b)

    For example, see some of the most recent research I linked in Death Note:
L, Anonymity & Eluding Entropy.b)

    The UNIX-HATERS Handbook, which contains many entertaining and often
still-applicable descriptions of the fecklessness and sharp edges of Unixes,
also contains an extremely funny 'Anti-Foreword' by Dennis Ritchie:

        "To the contributors to this book: I have succumbed to the temptation
you offered in your preface: I do write you off as envious malcontents and
romantic keepers of memories. The systems you remember so fondly (TOPS-20,
ITS, Multics, Lisp Machine, Cedar/Mesa, the Dorado) are not just out to
pasture, they are fertilizing it from below...You claim to seek progress, but
you succeed mainly in whining. Here is my metaphor: your book is a pudding
stuffed with apposite observations, many well-conceived. Like excrement, it
contains enough undigested nuggets of nutrition to sustain life for some. But
it is not a tasty pie: it reeks too much of contempt and of envy. Bon
appetit!"

    b)

    Many anonymous commenters point this out because it makes Bitcoin smell
like some sort of Ponzi scheme or multilevel marketing scheme:

        "Bitcoin, like the recent commercial phenomenon Groupon, tends to turn
people into marketers because they feel they have something to gain, however
small it might be in the end; I think that partly accounts for its temporary
success."

    Or "The Rise and Fall of Bitcoin", Wired:

        "Stefan Brands, a former ecash consultant and digital currency
pioneer, calls bitcoin bcleverb and is loath to bash it but believes
itbs fundamentally structured like ba pyramid schemeb that rewards early
adopters."

    John Robb, "More Thoughts on Bitcoin":

        "Lots of people are saying: "The deflation built into bitcoin was a
terrible idea. People are getting rich." In fact, it was a brilliant idea. It
brought in speculators (people that are buying/selling it as if in a game). It
created a bubble. The bubble put it on the map. The bubble has attracted
thousands of developers/participants. Think of how the Netscape IPO fueled the
Web/Internet."

    b)

    Decentralized systems are usually convertible into centralized systems
easily, while the converse is not true. (Much like parallel versus serial
programming - to make a parallel program serial, just insert a lot of
blocking.) For a simple example, consider cases where n=2: imagine a
BitTorrent swarm (a decentralized system) with one seed and one leech. Or take
Distributed Revision Control Systems like Darcs or Git; it's a commonplace to
point out that if a group really wants a 'centralized' workflow, they can just
designate one particular repository the 'master' canonical repository and
continue onwards with the DVCS as a more capable replacement for Apache
Subversion or CVS.b)




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From bbrewer at littledystopia.net  Mon Mar 19 14:36:50 2012
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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:36:50 -0400
Subject: "The Pirate Bay Attacks Censorship With Low Orbit Server
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http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bays-attacks-censorship-with-server-drones-120318/

The Pirate Bay Attacks Censorship With Low Orbit Server Drones
ErnestoMarch 18, 2012145 tpbPrint
In recent months The Pirate Bay has drastically changed its site to make
it less vulnerable to ever increasing censorship attempts across the
globe. But that was just the start, as the torrent site now says its
getting ready to put some of its hardware in GPS controlled drones.
Everyone knows WHAT TPB is. Now theyre going to have to think about
WHERE TPB is, The Pirate Bay team told TorrentFreak.

It is no secret that Hollywood wants The Pirate Bay to shut down. But to
accomplish this authorities may soon have to shoot down the sites
servers as these will be hovering in the air.

The Pirate Bay today unveiled their new mission. Theyre working on
hosting parts of their site in GPS-controlled drones, instead of
old-fashioned data centers.

Everyone knows WHAT TPB is. Now theyre going to have to think about
WHERE TPB is, The Pirate Bay team told TorrentFreak. We were further
informed that the first drone will probably fly above international waters.

Were already the most resilient and the most down to earth. Thats why
we need to lift off, being this connected to the ground doesnt feel
appropriate to us anymore, TPB told us. Although the line between
reality and fantasy can be rather thin at The Pirate Bay, we were
assured that the plan to launch a drone is real.


TPBs new host?


In a blog post Hollywoods arch-rivals half reveal some more details
about the unconventional plan.

With the development of GPS controlled drones, far-reaching cheap radio
equipment and tiny new computers like the Raspberry Pi, were going to
experiment with sending out some small drones that will float some
kilometers up in the air. This way our machines will have to be shut
down with aeroplanes in order to shut down the system. A real act of war.

Were just starting so we havent figured everything out yet. But we
cant limit ourselves to hosting things just on land anymore. These Low
Orbit Server Stations (LOSS) are just the first attempt. With modern
radio transmitters we can get over 100Mbps per node up to 50km away. For
the proxy system were building, thats more than enough.

The drone plan is yet another move to make it harder to censor or
shutdown The Pirate Bay. Last month the file-sharing site traded in
torrents for magnets for the exact same reason, and behind the scenes
The Pirate Bay team is making more adjustments.

Looking ahead, The Pirate Bay team thinks the site may no longer be
hosted on this planet.

When the time comes we will host in all parts of the galaxy, being true
to our slogan of being the galaxys most resilient system. And all of
the parts well use to build that system on will be downloadable.

Interesting times..




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From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:19:47 +0100
Subject: Could Bitcoin Become the Currency of System D?
Message-ID: <20120320111947.GU9891@leitl.org>

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/03/19/could-bitcoin-become-the-currency-of-system-d/

Could Bitcoin Become the Currency of System D?

If zeros and ones are outlawed, only outlaws will use zeros and ones.

Cryptography shall always have a place in securing our digital future and
most especially in securing our digital value. Advanced public-key encryption
for the masses cannot be eliminated nor denied b the genie is out of the
bottle and mankind is the better for it. The unintended consequence of
regulating or restricting decentralized cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin is
that their use as a currency will have been brecognizedb officially and that
usage will be driven largely underground.

ISSOUF SANOGO/AFP/Getty Images

However, underground may not be so bad anymore as Robert Neuwirth points out
in his brilliant Foreign Policy article, bThe Shadow Superpowerb. If
aggregated, this $10 trillion global black market is the worldbs second
largest economy after the United States and it is also the worldbs fastest
growing economy. The OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and
Development) projects that, by the year 2020, fully two-thirds of the worldbs
workers will inhabit this shadow economy, or bSystem D.b As Neuwirth
elaborates, it refers to the entire untaxed, unlicensed, and unregulated
cash-based economy:

    System D is a slang phrase pirated from French-speaking Africa and the
Caribbean. The French have a word that they often use to describe
particularly effective and motivated people. They call them dC)brouillards. To
say a man is a dC)brouillard is to tell people how resourceful and ingenious
he is. The former French colonies have sculpted this word to their own social
and economic reality. They say that inventive, self-starting, entrepreneurial
merchants who are doing business on their own, without registering or being
regulated by the bureaucracy and, for the most part, without paying taxes,
are part of blbeconomie de la dC)brouillardise.b Or, sweetened for street use,
bSysteme D.b This essentially translates as the ingenuity economy, the
economy of improvisation and self-reliance, the do-it-yourself, or DIY,
economy.

Enter bitcoin. All kind of vibrant economic activity is occurring in this
informal economy, which in some regions is between 20-60% of GDP or more, and
every economy needs a currency. Essentially, bitcoin is the bSystem Db of
currencies b global, decentralized, and non-state sanctioned. It is still
early days but as bitcoin bypasses traditional banking and financial
institutions, it is a currency off the grid just as System D. To deny the
existence of System D is to deny the fact that economic participants find
ways to survive even during prolonged times of hardship. According to
Neuwirth bit asserts an important truth: what happens in all the unregistered
markets and roadside kiosks of the world is not simply haphazard. It is a
product of intelligence, resilience, self-organization and group solidarity.b

It is inconceivable to think of those in under-developed countries and the
developed economies of the eurozone coping without System D activity given
the recurring recessions that are exacerbated by the violent central
bank-induced business cycles. Despite increasing consumption taxes like VAT
(value-added tax), the informal economy can still provide relief through
various markets and bazaars. Americans too will need black markets to
survive. System D represents the future.

Currently, transactions within the shadow economy have to be made face to
face, but an electronic System D currency would enable remote and even
cross-border transactions. This could significantly broaden the entire
informal ecosystem because consumers would have an international reach and
merchants would have vast new choices in selecting suppliers. Not all bitcoin
transactions require a standard computer and if the mobile payment
prognosticators are correct, the mobile phone equipped with applications like
Bitcoin Android could end up originating the majority of bitcoin
transactions. Contrary to the thesis of anti-cashist David Wolman, the
unbanked and the System D traders will not migrate away from cash unless its
replacement offers similar privacy features.

Bitcoin is barely three years young. Any bootstrapped currency initially will
have a chicken-and-egg problem due to the fact that a currencybs overall
success is determined by its network effect and pervasive spread. Critics of
bitcoin as a currency are quick to point out that not many merchants accept
it as a payment type yet. That will change. And, they also point out that the
total available market is severely limited. Oh, how wrong!  Bitcoinbs first
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From: joss-liberationtech at pseudonymity.net (Joss Wright)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:46:55 +0000
Subject: [liberationtech] CfP: 2nd Workshop on Free and Open Communications
	on the Internet (FOCI)
Message-ID: <mailman.3326.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Hello All,

This year Roger Dingledine of the Tor Project and I will be chairing the
2nd Workshop on Free and Open Communications on the Internet (FOCI), in
conjunction with the USENIX Security Symposium, on the 6th of August in
Bellevue, WA.

FOCI aims to bring together a community of researchers working on all
aspects of internet censorship. In addition to computer science
research, we are particularly keen to expand on the interdisciplinary
approach taken by the first workshop, and so are actively seeking
submissions from social and political sciences, law, economics,
activism, and any other field that can contribute to the discussion.

The full call for papers is available here:
https://www.usenix.org/conference/foci12/call-for-papers

I hope to see some of you there,

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From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:34:22 +0100
Subject: FY;) TERRORISTS are using online war games like Call of Duty to
  	plot attacks, The Sun can reveal. 
Message-ID: <20120320153422.GF9891@leitl.org>

(the Sun emulates the Onion)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4205896/Terrorists-play-online-games-like-Call-of-Duty-to-plan-attacks.html

Game fanatics

Terrorists plan attacks in net chats

Kids' fave keeps their plots secret Deadly ... terrorists are turning to
online war games to plot attacks without being monitored

Exclusive

By DAVID WILLETTS and TOM WELLS

Last Updated: 20th March 2012

TERRORISTS are using online war games like Call of Duty to plot attacks, The
Sun can reveal.

Islamic extremists know cops monitor phone calls, emails and online messages.

So they are turning to PlayStation and Xbox games to keep their deadly plans
secret.

Gamers can log on in groups to play against each other and b crucially b to
chat in private.

Once signed in to a "lobby" using a password, plotters put on Bluetooth
headsets and speak securely to conspirators on the same site.

Other shoot-'em-up games suspected of being targeted by terrorists are
thought to be Medal of Honour and the Halo series.

Realistic ... war games

Alamy

Last night, a source said: "It's a terrifying reality. These people waste no
time finding a secure method of chatting.

"They are logging into group games over the internet and discussing terror
plots. Security people know about it.

"For millions who love these games this will be a huge shock.

"To think fanatics use them for their own ends is a real worry." Sources say
plotters choose realistic conflict games so they can mask their deadly
discussions as harmless web chat.

Call Of Duty

Online craze ... 40 million people play Call Of Duty on the net

There has even been evidence would-be jihadists treat war games as training
tools, a bit like a pilot might use a flight simulator.

News of the growing threat comes five years after the CIA first warned of the
menace.

But with the soaring popularity of the games, there are now fears they are
being used by increasing numbers of criminals and terrorists.

Last night government sources said police and spy chiefs were already
responding to the threat.

A security expert revealed: "Those who fight crime and terrorism keep up to
date with technological changes."

Call Of Duty MW3

Best-seller ... Call Of Duty MW3 made B#250m in 24 hours

The terrorists choose incredibly realistic "first person games" where the
controller works through a complex simulation of war scenarios, carrying out
missions and battling enemy fighters.

Gamers choose different styles of play and missions b from planting bombs to
fighting one-on-one.

Then they enter the lobby and invite their friends to join in.

Call of Duty addicts can even join "clans" b groups who regularly play
together.

The games use a password-protected log-on to keep users' identities secret.
The system was designed so players anywhere on the globe can get together for
harmless fantasy battles.

But security chiefs now fear plotters are set to turn those fantasies into
reality.

d.willetts at the-sun.co.uk




From eugen at leitl.org  Tue Mar 20 08:55:56 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:55:56 +0100
Subject: [liberationtech] CfP: 2nd Workshop on Free and Open
  Communications 	on the Internet (FOCI)
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From eugen at leitl.org  Wed Mar 21 02:12:26 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:12:26 +0100
Subject: Bitcoin Seeks New Life In Africa
Message-ID: <20120321091226.GQ9891@leitl.org>

(Rudiger is a good friend of mine, I hope he can make it to the 5th May event
in Munich)

http://www.technologyreview.com/business/39829/?p1=BI

Wednesday, March 21, 2012

Bitcoin Seeks New Life In Africa

A digital currency without a central bank could be ideal for economies where
the mobile phone is king but the banking systems are weak.

By Tom Simonite

Recent months have not been kind to proponents of Bitcoin, the virtual
peer-to-peer currency that soared to a value of over $30 last summer on a
surge of public interest and media reports.

The currency operates over the Internet with no central control. But now its
15 minutes of fame appear to be over. Reports of a $500,000 digital heist
last year were followed by wild volatility in the value of a bitcoin, which
has now dropped to around $5. Last month, the largest exchange where bitcoins
could be traded for dollars unexpectedly closed because of what it called
"increasing regulation."

Now some in the Bitcoin community, a blend of people motivated by libertarian
politics and commitment to open-source software, are beginning to wonder if
their pet currency may have brighter prospects in the developing economies of
Africa. German software developer R|diger Koch, a consultant to the
U.K.-based bitcoin exchange Intersango, recently traveled to speak at the
Mobile Money Africa event in Lagos, Nigeria. There, Koch told the audience of
businesspeople and government officials that Bitcoin could support a system
of robust, low-fee mobile payments for anyone whose cell phone has a camera.

"Many of them were interested in how Bitcoin could be useful," says Koch. His
talk in Nigeria was intended to launch a dialogue that could lead Intersango
or others to launch practical Bitcoin-based mobile payment systems for
Africa. Koch has also visited several African embassies in Berlin to
introduce government officials to the currency.

The system needed to create and exchange bitcoins made its mysterious
appearance on the Internet in 2009 (it remains unclear who wrote the
software). The coins are impossible to fake and can be created and used
without any central authority, such as a central bank. The work of generating
bitcoins and verifying transactions is shared among the users of the
software, all protected by sophisticated mathematics.

In the United States and Europe, Bitcoin's meteoric rise was mostly driven by
speculators; hardly anyone used the currency to actually pay for goods and
services. Koch thinks things could be different in Africa, where a universal,
electronic currency could solve real problems. Fast-growing African economies
such as those of Kenya and Nigeria rely heavily on cash transactions,
particularly in rural areas where there are no ATMs and few people have bank
accounts. In some places, large networks of illegal money changers are used
for cross-border payments.


That situation is part of the reason for the early success in Africa of
mobile-phone payment systems such as Kenya's M-Pesa, which allows users to
send each other money using text messages. Koch believes that mobile payments
built around Bitcoin could be even more useful. "It's interesting to see how
creative Africans can be about transferring money," says Koch. "They really
think seriously about a cashless society."

Open-source technology created by the Bitcoin community could be used to
create simple mobile apps for payments accessible to almost any phone with a
camera, says Koch. Use of smart phones is now growing rapidly in some African
countries, particularly Kenya, as prices for models using Google's Android
software have dropped rapidly. He imagines a design similar to the Bitcoin
for Android app, which allows one person to transfer bitcoins to another by
using a phone to snap a photo of a 2-D bar code or QR code on the screen of
another phone. "People could exchange money when they meet on the street,"
says Koch.

The decentralized design of Bitcoin means a payment system that uses the
currency would easily span national borders and could avoid system-wide
outages like those suffered by M-Pesa in December, which left users unable to
do business. "All centralized systems have the same problem," says Koch. "If
you rely on it and you don't have a way to pay, then you are in trouble."

Tonny Omwansa, an academic at the University Of Nairobi, Kenya, studies
payment systems and recently published a book on M-Pesa. "The low financial
inclusion, low penetration of formal financial services, and uptake and
penetration of mobile phones make mobile payments very valuable," he says.
However, he notes, users currently run the risk of "dependence on a supplier
which is monopolistic."

Mobile payments built on top of Bitcoin's decentralized design could avoid
that risk. But Omwansa says that although he is familiar with Bitcoin, most
in Africa are not. "Hardly anyone I know has heard about it," he says.

Copyright Technology Review 2012.




From eugen at leitl.org  Wed Mar 21 05:22:26 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:22:26 +0100
Subject: Autonomous, Roaming Swarm Creates Temporary Local Wi-Fi Network
Message-ID: <20120321122226.GU9891@leitl.org>

http://www.suasnews.com/2012/03/13658/autonomous-roaming-swarm-creates-temporary-local-wi-fi-network/

Autonomous, Roaming Swarm Creates Temporary Local Wi-Fi Network

20 March 2012

By Gary Mortimer

The Electronic Countermeasures project is essentially an autonomous, roaming
Internet swarm, constructed from repurposed UAS.

The project is lead by Liam Young of think tank Tomorrowbs Thoughts Today and
Unknown Fields Division, with assistance from Eleanor Saitta, Oliviu
Lugojan-Ghenciu, and Superflux and was demonstraeted at the Glow Festival in
the Netherlands last year.

Electronic Countermeasures @ GLOW Festival NL 2011 from liam young on Vimeo.

These UAS would fly off and hover above the city, and create ad hoc
connections and networks in a new form of nomadic territorial
infrastructure,b Young says, ba flock of interactive autonomous drones that
form their own place specific, temporary, local, Wi-Fi communityba pirate
Internet.b

Rather than carry satellites to uplink to the greater Internet, Young
imagines his swarm as a highly site-specific means to create peer-to-peer
communication (think text messaging or the old Napster file sharing model).
And in this regard, Young actually views Electronic Countermeasures as a form
of nomadic architectureba roaming infrastructure built from digital beams
rather than steelblike a drifting island of information.

bArchitecture is typically such a slow medium and we wanted to develop
alternative strategies for how an architect may operate and alternative forms
of projects that could play out with much more immediacy,b he writes.




From sickness at tiscali.it  Wed Mar 21 06:09:57 2012
From: sickness at tiscali.it (sickness)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:09:57 +0100
Subject: [tahoe-dev] keeping private grids privatey
Message-ID: <mailman.3327.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

> 
> Setting up a private i2p network might be getting OT. But I'd be
> interested as well in finding out how to setup a private i2p network
> if you ever figure out or find documentation on how to boot strap one
> for your community, please share the documentation on how its done ;)
> 
> Thanks,
> Jimmy.
> 

sure, it was discussed multiple times on i2p forums:
http://forum.i2p2.de/viewtopic.php?p=13603#13603
http://forum.i2p2.de/viewtopic.php?t=2547
http://forum.i2p2.de/viewtopic.php?t=2381

(the same could be done with tor and freenet, iirc
but you don't have tahoe over those, and even if
freenet is able to store content, it's fixed to
k=1 h=3 s=3 speaking in tahoe-lafs language, and
you don't really have a way to repair/check the
shares if not by redownloading the entire content
over time, it's more like a big cache... but
differences between tahoe and freenet were already
discussed by zooko in another post)
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From eugen at leitl.org  Wed Mar 21 06:15:39 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:15:39 +0100
Subject: [tahoe-dev] keeping private grids privatey
Message-ID: <20120321131539.GW9891@leitl.org>

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From eugen at leitl.org  Wed Mar 21 06:53:16 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:53:16 +0100
Subject: 2-GHz clock quantum key distribution over 260 km of standard 
  telecom fiber
Message-ID: <20120321135316.GZ9891@leitl.org>

http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.4323

2-GHz clock quantum key distribution over 260 km of standard telecom fiber

Shuang Wang, Wei Chen, Jun-Fu Guo, Zhen-Qiang Yin, Hong-Wei Li, Zheng Zhou,
Guang-Can Guo, Zheng-Fu Han

(Submitted on 20 Mar 2012)

    We report a demonstration of quantum key distribution (QKD) over a
standard telecom fiber exceeding 50 dB in loss and 250 km in length. The
differential phase shift QKD protocol was chosen and implemented with 2 GHz
system clock rate. By careful optimization of the 1-bit delayed
Faraday-Michelson interferometer and the use of the super-conducting single
photon detector (SSPD), we achieved a quantum bit error rate below 2% when
the fiber length was no more than 205 km, and of 3.45% for the 260 km length
fiber with 52.9 dB loss. We also improved the quantum efficiency of SSPD to
obtain high key rate for 50 km length. 

Subjects: 	Quantum Physics (quant-ph)

Journal reference: 	Optics Letters, 37, 1008-1010 (2012)

DOI: 	10.1364/OL.37.001008

Cite as: 	arXiv:1203.4323v1 [quant-ph]




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From flyingkiwiguy at gmail.com  Wed Mar 21 09:19:28 2012
From: flyingkiwiguy at gmail.com (Gary Mulder)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:19:28 +0000
Subject: [ZS] Bitcoin Seeks New Life In Africa
Message-ID: <mailman.3328.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 21 March 2012 15:56, Dirk Bruere <dirk.bruere at gmail.com> wrote:

Are there any bitcoin exchanges that take PayPal or credit/debit cards?
> I don't do online banking with my accounts.
>

One key feature of Bitcoin is that a transaction is non-revocable. Once you
send Bitcoins to a Bitcoin wallet address, the Bitcoins are irrevocably
sent.  PayPal supports charge backs, so someone who buys Bitcoins could
then file a charge back request with PayPal and get PayPal to refund his
payment. Therefore nobody accepts PayPal for Bitcoin purchases. Credit
cards also have identical issues. Also, get the destination Bitcoin address
wrong and the Bitcoins sent can never be recovered by anyone.

If you want to confirm GBP into Bitcoins you need to use a Bitcoin
exchange. The guys at http://www.intersango.com accept SEPA and bank
transfers to their Lloyds TSB account. The funds usually show up in your
exchange account around 1 business day later. I know the guys running
Intersango, and they are legit. and are based in London and Poland. Having
said that they've had to change from HSBC to Lloyds as HSBC was giving them
a lot of problems, so don't make any large deposits.
http://www.mtgox.comis the other large exchange which is based in
France and Japan. The major
weakness in Bitcoin are the exchanges, as they're they interface between
normal currencies and the Bitcoin ecosystem, and so suffer all the problems
and risks of both systems, i.e. regulation, security, and technical issues.

Caveat emptor - this is the Wild Wild West of currency.

Regards,
Gary

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From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:28:51 +0100
Subject: [ZS] Bitcoin Seeks New Life In Africa
Message-ID: <20120321162851.GI9891@leitl.org>

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From grarpamp at gmail.com  Wed Mar 21 18:58:54 2012
From: grarpamp at gmail.com (grarpamp)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 21:58:54 -0400
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Distributed filesystem choices (aka: none yet?)
Message-ID: <mailman.3329.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Been looking for a distributed filesystem with no luck, any ideas?

Distributed meaning that there is no single central access point.
So the concept of mounting might mean amongst the roving set able
to service it, or some underlying graph of it, something like:

mount -t dht dht://<seed_node> /dist1


Users add their free block devices to the global backing store which
was initialized with certain ZFS-like integrity and redundancy
guarantees.

Files would never vanish unless there are no longer enough blocks
in the backing store to meet the init time guarantees.

Users could either copy their hierarchies into the space, or attach
them into the space for continued local maintenance.

The one time init setting of a space could include whether pki
recognized root users could maintain the overall hierarchy.  Uid's
might be an insertion node id.

There may need to be voting authority on file/tree expiry if under
space pressure, perhaps bitcoin-like, with the metrics established
at init time.

Users could add their block devices to whatever pool had the metrics
they like.

Anononymity and crypto would provide incentive to donate resources
since unlike say bittorrent, no legal fear means no hit and run
required.


I don't really know what it might look like. Just that it needs
sha2/3 integrity, redundancy, and file lifetime guarantees. It needs
to be global, anonymous, and be a usable file system. And somehow
deal with abusive fill such as dd if=/dev/zero of=zero, which implies
some kind of moderated hierarchies appointed by the initializing
entity.

AFS is nice that users can bolt their filespace into the tree, and
it has filesystem semantics.

ZFS/BTRFS is nice due to their sha256 integrity, raidz redundancy
and simple backing block device ideas.

FreeNet/GnuNet/BitTorrent and all other 'filesharing' protocols are
no good because there is no guarantee that files will not vanish.
And they have no filesystem semantics, only push/fetch.

RedHat GFS / DragonFly HAMMER are interesting as a distributed
filesystem in which real work can be done on live files.

Tahoe-LAFS is nice due to adding in block devices, but no good
because of the central access point. Perhaps that could be distributed?

Phantom/I2P/Tor could be used as the backend IP transport.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_file_systems#Distributed_parallel_fault-tolerant_file_systems


The only thing that makes it worth while is that a lot of people
have free space, want to give an get data, safely, and don't want
to see their work in populating it wasted... so it can't go away.
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:57:32 +0900
Subject: No subject
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From nettime at kein.org  Thu Mar 22 00:39:35 2012
From: nettime at kein.org (nettime's avid reader)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 08:39:35 +0100
Subject: <nettime> Worldbs First Flying File-Sharing Drones in Action
Message-ID: <mailman.3330.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>


TorrentFreak
Worldbs First Flying File-Sharing Drones in Action

March 20, 2012

https://torrentfreak.com/worlds-first-flying-file-sharing-drones-in-action-120320/

A few days ago The Pirate Bay announced that in future parts of its site  
could be hosted on GPS controlled drones. To many this may have sounded  
like a joke, but in fact these pirate drones already exist. Project  
bElectronic Countermeasuresb has built a swarm of five fully operational  
drones which prove that an baerial Napsterb or an bairborne Pirate Bayb is 
not as futuristic as it sounds.

In an ever-continuing effort to thwart censorship, The Pirate Bay
plans to turn flying drones into mobile hosting locations.

bEveryone knows WHAT TPB is. Now theybre going to have to think about  
WHERE TPB is,b The Pirate Bay team told TorrentFreak last Sunday,  
announcing their drone project.

Liam Young, co-founder of Tomorrowbs Thoughts Today, was amazed to read  
the announcement, not so much because of the technology, because his group 
has already built a swarm of file-sharing drones.

bI thought hold on, we are already doing that,b Young told TorrentFreak.

Their starting point for project bElectronic Countermeasuresb was to  
create something akin to an baerial Napsterb or bairborne Pirate Bayb, but 
it became much more than that.

bPart nomadic infrastructure and part robotic swarm, we have rebuilt and  
programmed the drones to broadcast their own local Wi-Fi network as a form 
of aerial Napster. They swarm into formation, broadcasting their pirate 
network, and then disperse, escaping detection, only to reform elsewhere,b 
says the group describing their creation.


File-Sharing Drone in Action (photo by Claus Langer)

picture of a sharing drone

In short the system allows the public to share data with the help of  
flying drones. Much like the Pirate Box, but one that flies autonomously  
over the city.

bThe public can upload files, photos and share data with one another as  
the drones float above the significant public spaces of the city. The  
swarm becomes a pirate broadcast network, a mobile infrastructure that  
passers-by can interact with,b the creators explain.

One major difference compared to more traditional file-sharing hubs is  
that it requires a hefty investment. Each of the drones costs 1500 euros  
to build. Not a big surprise, considering the hardware thatbs needed to  
keep these pirate hubs in the air.

bEach one is powered by 2x 2200mAh LiPo batteries. The lift is provided by 
4x Roxxy Brushless Motors that run off a GPS flight control board. Also on 
deck are altitude sensors and gyros that keep the flight stable. They all 
talk to a master control system through XBee wireless modules,b Young told 
TorrentFreak.

bThese all sit on a 10mm x 10mm aluminum frame and are wrapped in a vacuum 
formed aerodynamic cowling. The network is broadcast using various 
different hardware setups ranging from Linux gumstick modules, wireless 
routers and USB sticks for file storage.b

For Young and his crew this is just the beginning. With proper financial  
support they hope to build more drones and increase the range they can  
cover.

bWe are planning on scaling up the system by increasing broadcast range  
and building more drones for the flock. We are also building in other  
systems like autonomous battery change bases. We are looking for funding  
and backers to assist us in scaling up the system,b he told us.

Those who see the drones in action (video below) will notice that theybre 
not just practical. The creative and artistic background of the group 
shines through, with the choreography performed by the drones perhaps even 
more stunning than the sharing component.

bWhen the audience interacts with the drones they glow with vibrant  
colors, they break formation, they are called over and their flight  
pattern becomes more dramatic and expressive,b the group explains.

Besides the artistic value, the drones can also have other use cases than 
being a bpirate hub.b For example, they can serve as peer-to-peer  
communications support for protesters and activists in regions where  
Internet access is censored.

Either way, whether itbs Hollywood or a dictator, there will always be  
groups that have a reason to shoot the machines down. But letbs be honest, 
who would dare to destroy such a beautiful piece of art?


Worlds First File-Sharing Drone
-> http://vimeo.com/36267881



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From Jdean at lsuhsc.edu  Thu Mar 22 07:15:41 2012
From: Jdean at lsuhsc.edu (Dean, James)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:15:41 -0500
Subject: [cryptography] [info] The NSA Is Building the Country's Biggest
	Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <mailman.3331.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

From
http://blogs.computerworld.com/19917/shocker_nsa_chief_denies_total_info
rmation_awareness_spying_on_americans?source=CTWNLE_nlt_security_2012-03
-22:

Despite the fact that domestic spying on Americans is already an
e-hoarding epidemic, the massive new NSA storage facility in Utah will
solve the problem of how to manage 20 terabytes a minute of intercepted
communications.

Even if the intercepted communication is AES encrypted and unbroken
today, all that stored data will be cracked some day. Then it too can be
data-mined. The super secret spook agency is full of code breakers.
"Remember," former intelligence official Binney stated, "a lot of
foreign government stuff we've never been able to break is 128 or less.
Break all that and you'll find out a lot more of what you didn't
know-stuff we've already stored-so there's an enormous amount of
information still in there." Binney added the NSA is "on the verge of
breaking a key encryption algorithm."

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From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar 22 01:58:38 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:58:38 +0100
Subject: [cryptography] [info] The =?utf-8?Q?NS?= 
  =?utf-8?Q?A_Is_Building_the_Country=E2=80=99?= 	=?utf-8?Q?s?= Biggest
  Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <20120322085838.GL9891@leitl.org>

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From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar 22 02:06:34 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:06:34 +0100
Subject: <nettime> =?utf-8?B?V29ybGTigJk=?= 	=?utf-8?Q?s?= First Flying
  File-Sharing Drones in Action
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From zooko at zooko.com  Thu Mar 22 09:09:19 2012
From: zooko at zooko.com (Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:09:19 -0600
Subject: [tahoe-dev] Logging howto / sftp with hashed passwords
Message-ID: <mailman.3332.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

> https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/browser/docs
>
> https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/browser/trunk/docs/logging.rst
>
> https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/Dev
>
> https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/Doc
>
> https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/FAQ

Oh yeah, and then there is this:

https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/NewbieDeveloperSetup

and:

https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/Extensions

I'm really glad that we have so many people contributing docs
nowadays, but we really do need some kind of improvement to helping
people find the docs they seek. I'm really not sure how to do that.
This was my attempt to do so:
https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/Doc , and I'm not sure if
it is sufficient.

Regards,

Zooko
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From lodewijkadlp at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 02:27:43 2012
From: lodewijkadlp at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?lodewijk_andr=C3=A9_de_la_porte?=)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:27:43 +0100
Subject: [info] [ZS] Bitcoin Seeks New Life In Africa
In-Reply-To: <20120321162851.GI9891@leitl.org>
References: <20120321162851.GI9891@leitl.org>
Message-ID: <CAHWD2r+AU4oJpyvK383Voi=NV54Hs+as=XxTJri38kBPHU=e9A@mail.gmail.com>

> Are there any bitcoin exchanges that take PayPal or credit/debit cards?
> > I don't do online banking with my accounts.
> >
>
> One key feature of Bitcoin is that a transaction is non-revocable. Once you
> send Bitcoins to a Bitcoin wallet address, the Bitcoins are irrevocably
> sent.  PayPal supports charge backs, so someone who buys Bitcoins could
> then file a charge back request with PayPal and get PayPal to refund his
> payment. Therefore nobody accepts PayPal for Bitcoin purchases. Credit
> cards also have identical issues. Also, get the destination Bitcoin address
> wrong and the Bitcoins sent can never be recovered by anyone.

SEPA and bank transfers are (sometimes) also easily reversable. Paypal has
a policy against virtual currencies, after a quantity of bitcoin-related
paypal accounts had been closed people stopped using it. Wisely so, Paypal
has strange account-freezing policies.
You may still get a Paypal to Bitcoin exchange in a person-to-person trade
though, ask around. Bitcoin OTC can give you an indication of
someone's trustworthiness.




From virtualadept at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 07:41:24 2012
From: virtualadept at gmail.com (Bryce Lynch)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:41:24 -0400
Subject: [ZS] Bitcoin Seeks New Life In Africa
Message-ID: <mailman.3333.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:19, Gary Mulder <flyingkiwiguy at gmail.com> wrote:

> One key feature of Bitcoin is that a transaction is non-revocable. Once you
> send Bitcoins to a Bitcoin wallet address, the Bitcoins are irrevocably

Incidentally, and this is something that needs to be said out of due
dilligence, this is what helped kill e-cash in the 90's when some of
the cypherpunks came in from the cold and started their own e-cash
ventures.  We can't forget that chargebacks are how banks make a lot
of money, and they still don't know how to act when that's not
possible.

> Therefore nobody accepts PayPal for Bitcoin purchases. Credit cards also

Paypal also started locking the accounts of people who were accepting
currency in exchange for Bitcoins.  So far as I know, those accounts
are still locked out and the funds in them are still frozen.

> have identical issues. Also, get the destination Bitcoin address wrong and
> the Bitcoins sent can never be recovered by anyone

That is a huge, huge problem.  On the desktop/laptop side that's
mitigated by cut-and-paste.  It's also a good argument for escrow of
funds - to catch that problem.  On the mobile side, I know a few
people are working on QRcodes for exchange of Bitcoin account codes.

> If you want to confirm GBP into Bitcoins you need to use a Bitcoin exchange.
> The guys at http://www.intersango.com accept SEPA and bank transfers to
> their Lloyds TSB account. The funds usually show up in your exchange account
> around 1 business day later. I know the guys running Intersango, and they
> are legit. and are based in London and Poland. Having said that they've had
> to change from HSBC to Lloyds as HSBC was giving them a lot of problems, so
> don't make any large deposits. http://www.mtgox.com is the other large
> exchange which is based in France and Japan. The major weakness in Bitcoin

Also remember that MTgox got pwned but good a couple of weeks ago.
Confidence in them tanked as a result.

> are the exchanges, as they're they interface between normal currencies and
> the Bitcoin ecosystem, and so suffer all the problems and risks of both
> systems, i.e. regulation, security, and technical issues.

On the less legitimate side, there are a number of people out there
with fairly high reputation scores on darknet fora who convert
one-time-use Greendot codes into Bitcoins in an anonymous manner.
They're pretty highly ranked on the Silk Road.  On the Third Black
Market, not so much, but time will show who's good at it and who's
not.

What I'm curious about (though I probably shouldn't be) is how the
exchangers in question are cashing out their Greendot and Moneypak
cards because (in the US at least) they have to be tied to a
government acknowledged identity, which torpedos anonymity.

> Caveat emptor - this is the Wild Wild West of currency.

Yee-haw.

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From marsh at extendedsubset.com  Thu Mar 22 10:02:57 2012
From: marsh at extendedsubset.com (Marsh Ray)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:02:57 -0500
Subject: [cryptography] [info] The NSA Is Building the Country's Biggest
	Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <mailman.3334.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 03/22/2012 09:57 AM, Peter Maxwell wrote:
>
> From
> http://blogs.computerworld.com/19917/shocker_nsa_chief_denies_total_information_awareness_spying_on_americans?source=CTWNLE_nlt_security_2012-03-22
>>  "Remember," former intelligence official Binney stated, "a lot of
>> foreign government stuff we've never been able to break is 128 or
>> less. Break all that and you'll find out a lot more of what you
>> didn't know-stuff we've already stored-so there's an enormous
>> amount of information still in there."

In other words, they've accumulated a backlog of ciphertext. Encryption
working as designed.

>> Binney added the NSA is "on the verge of breaking a key encryption
>> algorithm."

This sounds like budget boondoggle baloney to me.

How can you be "on the verge" of something like that?

You might have some ideas on how to attack it, but until they're proven
they're just guesses and likely to be dead ends. Not something you
should justify reworking your computing systems around.

But once they're proven, you're not "on the verge".

> That sounds far more plausible than the previous explanations.  I'd
> also suspect the "key encryption algorithm" may be RC4 and not AES
> at the moment.

Or it could just be all the 40- and 56- bit stuff that was captured by
wiretapping Americans and not decrypted way back when the NSA felt
constrained by laws.

Or it could be everything using 512-bit RSA key exchange.

Or it could be everything for which the security of the encryption
ultimately depends on a user-chosen password. E.g., MS-PPTP/MPPE (but
there's nothing really new about this).

Or it could be a common protocol using a cipher weakly. For example, I
noticed this the other day about RDP "standard, non-FIPS" mode:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc240771%28v=prot.10%29.aspx
If the endpoints do actually manage to negotiate the use of 128 bit (as
opposed to 40 or 56 bit) security, it uses the output of RC4 without
discarding any initial bytes. Those initial bytes have some
correlations, some of which can expose the whole key. Just to make sure
the 1684 bit state size of RC4 doesn't get stale, the protocol refreshes
the key every 4096 packets. (Actually better than MPPE which seems to
rekey every 1 or 256 packets depending on negotiated options).

Or it could be complete BS.

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From iang at iang.org  Wed Mar 21 18:54:30 2012
From: iang at iang.org (ianG)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:54:30 +1100
Subject: [cryptography]
	[info] The NSA Is Building the Countrybs Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <mailman.3335.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 19/03/12 12:31 PM, ianG wrote:

> ... So after a lot of colour, it is not clear if they can break AES.
> Yet. OK. But that is their plan. And they think they can do it, within
> their foreseeable future.


So, step into NSA's shoes.  If there is a timeline here we (NSA) worked  
out we can break AES "soon" ... what would we do?

Would we impress everyone in the world as to how strong it was and push  
NIST to standardise it as much as possible?  Plausible given that everyone 
follows NIST's lead without question.  The Suite B sweetener is aptly 
named, nobody seems to have missed the sour taste of Suite A ;-)

Would we propose or advance some modes or protocols above others?

Where I'm getting at here is things like CTR mode.  It seems that this  
mode reduces the obfuscations of CBC to make AES the sole and only fulcrum 
of strength.  Nice, clear and simple.  But, assuming a predictable counter, 
we have lots of ciphertext with a clear relationship.  So CTR is easier to 
crack assuming a big machine that makes the local county brown-out every 
time someone wants to read a conversation.

Or, is the advantage that CBC and other modes have - obfuscation of the  
ciphertext with variation stolen from the plaintext - of such low value in 
the scheme of things that these things make no difference?  Is the choice 
of mode irrelevant if AES has a weakness?

iang



(context here is that I am examining an older protocol of mine with  
thought of replacing it, and wonder which mode to prefer...)

(thinking about it more, my normal rule of "ignore the NSA always" should 
answer this :) )
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From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar 22 06:20:24 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:20:24 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?They=E2=80=99re_Watching=3A_Home?= 
  =?utf-8?Q?land_Security_Trackin?= 	=?utf-8?Q?g?= Visitors Across
  Alternative News and Prepper Web Sites
Message-ID: <20120322132024.GU9891@leitl.org>

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/theyre-watching-homeland-security-tracking-visitors-across-alternative-news-and-prepper-web-sites_03212012

Theybre Watching: Homeland Security Tracking Visitors Across Alternative News
and Prepper Web Sites

Mac Slavo

March 21st, 2012

SHTFplan.com

Comments (139)
	
Just because youbre paranoid doesnbt mean theybre not out to get you.

If there ever existed individuals and groups that threatened the status quo
itbs now, and they can often be found congregating at alternative news web
sites, forums and preparedness oriented online communities. Government
officials at the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI have done
everything in their power to marginalize their dangerous ideas and activities
going so far as to even issue security bulletins to private businesses like
banks, surplus stores, coffee shops and other retailers outlining what
employees should look for and when to say something to law enforcement
officials. Activities like putting a Ron Paul bumper sticker on your car,
paying cash, buying gold, stocking up on food, promoting banti-U.S.b and
bradical theologies,b and demanding personal privacy are all now considered
to be suspicious in the eyes of a government hell bent on destroying the
Constitution.

While DHS has requisitioned the help of brick and mortar businesses in their
efforts to identify persons-of-interest, they have realized that the best
place to locate domestic threats to national security is the internet. As
such, they have deployed a host of tools to not only monitor what is being
posted online, but who is posting it, who their friends are, which sites they
visit and what information they blikeb in particular.

A recent report from well known survival author James Rawles suggests that
Preparedness oriented web sites are a prime target of government snooping and
sniffing. A web site like Rawlesb Survival Blog, or even our very own
SHTFplan, undoubtedly meets all of the criteria outlined in the multitude of
security bulletins issued by DHS and FBI, thus it would only make sense that
these types of communities would be primary destinations for government
monitoring. In the case of Survival Blog, Rawles reports that a recent
analysis of his logs by web forensic experts yielded some startling results:

    It has come to my attention that from August of 2011 to November of 2011,
the FBI secretly redirected the web traffic of more than 10% of
SurvivalBlogbs US visitors through CJIS, their sprawling data center situated
on 900 acres, 10 miles from Clarksburg, West Virginia. There, the Feebees
surreptitiously collected the IP addresses of my site visitors. In all, 4,906
of 35,494 selected connections ended up going to or through the FBI servers.
(Note that this happened several months beforewe moved our primary server to
Sweden.) Furthermore, we discovered that the FBI attached a long-lived cookie
that allowed them to track the sites that readers subsequently visited. I
suspect that the FBI has done the same to hundreds of other web sites. I find
this situation totally abhorrent, and contrary to the letter of 4th Amendment
as well as the intent of our Founding Fathers.

    I recognize that I am making this announcement at the risk of losing some
readers.So be it. But I felt compelled to tell my readers immediately,
because it was the honorable and forthright course of action.

    Working on my behalf, some volunteer web forensics experts dissected some
cached version histories. (Just about everything is available on the
Internet, and the footprints and cookie crumb trails that you leave are
essentially there for a lifetime.) The volunteers found that the bulk of the
FBI redirects were selected because of a readerbs association with
bIntellectual Propertyb infringing sites like the now defunct Megaupload.
But once redirected, you were assigned a cookie.  However, some of these were
direct connections to the SurvivalBlog site (around 4% of the total.) So if
they had kept this practice up long enough and if you visited us enough times
then the FBIbs computers would have given you a cookie. This has been
verified with sniffer software.

Most alarming about this is that according to James Rawlesb analysis, usersb
browsers were first redirected to an FBI server, then forced to download a
cookie via their browser, and were then redirected back to his web site b the
entire process unbeknownst to the end user because it happens almost
instantly. Because the cookie isnbt removed unless you clear it from your
browser (you can easily remove cookies manually) every web site subsequently
visited by the user would then be logged by an FBI computer in real-time.

You can be assured that if the FBI is engaging in this type of surveillance,
Survival Blog and other preparedness web sites arenbt alone. Chances are
that, as Rawles mentions, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of web sites
being tracked and monitored in similar fashion. A report from the Intel Hub
confirms our suspicions, as do our own visitor logs, and webd venture to
guess that most other web sites in the alternative news sphere will see
similar access logs.

Perhaps for now the government surveillance net is somewhat limited to
specific internet spheres of interest, as their surveillance infrastructure
is still being constructed. But it wonbt be long, in fact less than 18
months, before they have the ability to track every single phone call, text
message, email, image and video upload, blog post, comment, search query and
social networking activity in the world. Yes, thatbs right, EVERY SINGLE
digital interaction:

    Via The Daily Crux:

    Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly
named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency.

    A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle
assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze,
and store vast swaths of the worldbs communications, as they zap down from
satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of
international, foreign, and domestic networks.

As we highlighted in Everything You Do Is Monitored, the government is
rapidly taking steps across the nationbs entire security apparatus and its
ancillary arms such as major search engines, private banks,
telecommunications companies and social networks to log, aggregate and
analyze the behavior of individual users as well as groups to which they
belong. To what end is anybodybs guess (but we could, of course, venture a
few theories).

It should be perfectly clear. Whether youbre a prepper, alternative news
buff, or none of the above, the government wants to know what youbre doing.
No one is immune to the surveillance state.

Webre all suspects now.

Theybre watching.

Resources: Here are some things you can do to protect your privacy online:

-Anonymous Web Surfing (Article)

-Set up a Virtual Private Network to protect your web surfing identity

-The TOR Project: Open source, free anonymous browsing

-Surf the internet from public wireless access points (Article) 

Author: Mac Slavo Date: March 21st, 2012 Website: www.SHTFplan.com

Copyright Information: Copyright SHTFplan and Mac Slavo. This content may be
freely reproduced in full or in part in digital form with full attribution to
the author and a link to www.shtfplan.com. Please contact us for permission
to reproduce this content in other media formats.




From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar 22 07:29:26 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:29:26 +0100
Subject: [cryptography] [info] The NSA Is Building the Country's 
  Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <20120322142926.GX9891@leitl.org>

----- Forwarded message from "Dean, James" <Jdean at lsuhsc.edu> -----


From measl at mfn.org  Thu Mar 22 13:31:25 2012
From: measl at mfn.org (J.A. Terranson)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:31:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?They=E2=80=99re_Watching=3A_Home?=   
  =?utf-8?Q?land_Security_Trackin?=  =?utf-8?Q?g?= Visitors Across 
  Alternative  News and Prepper Web Sites
In-Reply-To: <20120322132024.GU9891@leitl.org>
References: <20120322132024.GU9891@leitl.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1203221523420.32507@mx1.mfn.org>

While I have no doubt whatsoever that NSA is passively intercepting the 
majority (if not close to all) of the Internet traffic, this article is 
making claims that make no snse. In fact, the authors seem to have a 
fundamental misunderstanding of how te Internet actually works.  Why would 
NSA or anyone else leave cookies laying around for paanoid folk to find?  
It's certainly not necessary for the performance of the surveillance 
mission, and in fact endangers suc a mission - interception above layer 3 
just doesnt make a lot of sense, especially wen reconstruction of the 
higher layer activities is such a straightfoward matter if you capture all 
the layer 3 traffic.

I don't doubt that "we are all suspects now", or that NSA is watcing, but 
I seriously doubt that they are watching the way thse guys believe.  It 
sounds to me like these websites realized that FBI visitors were looking 
at the site and then assumed a lot of facts not in evidence.  Hell, I've 
had LOTS of lettered government visits to various web pages, whether by 
bored employes or for active surveillance - but none of those logged 
visits can be considered to be "secret" surveillance: after all, they left 
logs of their visits for chrissakes!

On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, Eugen Leitl wrote:

> http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/theyre-watching-homeland-security-tracking-visitors-across-alternative-news-and-prepper-web-sites_03212012
> 
> Theybre Watching: Homeland Security Tracking Visitors Across Alternative News
> and Prepper Web Sites
> 
> Mac Slavo
> 
> March 21st, 2012
> 
> SHTFplan.com
> 
> Comments (139)
> 	
> Just because youbre paranoid doesnbt mean theybre not out to get you.
> 
> If there ever existed individuals and groups that threatened the status quo
> itbs now, and they can often be found congregating at alternative news web
> sites, forums and preparedness oriented online communities. Government
> officials at the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI have done
> everything in their power to marginalize their dangerous ideas and activities
> going so far as to even issue security bulletins to private businesses like
> banks, surplus stores, coffee shops and other retailers outlining what
> employees should look for and when to say something to law enforcement
> officials. Activities like putting a Ron Paul bumper sticker on your car,
> paying cash, buying gold, stocking up on food, promoting b
anti-U.S.b
 and
> b
radical theologies,b
 and demanding personal privacy are all now considered
> to be suspicious in the eyes of a government hell bent on destroying the
> Constitution.
> 
> While DHS has requisitioned the help of brick and mortar businesses in their
> efforts to identify persons-of-interest, they have realized that the best
> place to locate domestic threats to national security is the internet. As
> such, they have deployed a host of tools to not only monitor what is being
> posted online, but who is posting it, who their friends are, which sites they
> visit and what information they blikeb in particular.
> 
> A recent report from well known survival author James Rawles suggests that
> Preparedness oriented web sites are a prime target of government snooping and
> sniffing. A web site like Rawlesb Survival Blog, or even our very own
> SHTFplan, undoubtedly meets all of the criteria outlined in the multitude of
> security bulletins issued by DHS and FBI, thus it would only make sense that
> these types of communities would be primary destinations for government
> monitoring. In the case of Survival Blog, Rawles reports that a recent
> analysis of his logs by web forensic experts yielded some startling results:
> 
>     It has come to my attention that from August of 2011 to November of 2011,
> the FBI secretly redirected the web traffic of more than 10% of
> SurvivalBlogbs US visitors through CJIS, their sprawling data center situated
> on 900 acres, 10 miles from Clarksburg, West Virginia. There, the Feebees
> surreptitiously collected the IP addresses of my site visitors. In all, 4,906
> of 35,494 selected connections ended up going to or through the FBI servers.
> (Note that this happened several months beforewe moved our primary server to
> Sweden.) Furthermore, we discovered that the FBI attached a long-lived cookie
> that allowed them to track the sites that readers subsequently visited. I
> suspect that the FBI has done the same to hundreds of other web sites. I find
> this situation totally abhorrent, and contrary to the letter of 4th Amendment
> as well as the intent of our Founding Fathers.
> 
>     I recognize that I am making this announcement at the risk of losing some
> readers.So be it. But I felt compelled to tell my readers immediately,
> because it was the honorable and forthright course of action.
> 
>     Working on my behalf, some volunteer web forensics experts dissected some
> cached version histories. (Just about everything is available on the
> Internet, and the footprints and cookie crumb trails that you leave are
> essentially there for a lifetime.) The volunteers found that the bulk of the
> FBI redirects were selected because of a readerbs association with
> b
Intellectual Propertyb
 infringing sites like the now defunct Megaupload.
> But once redirected, you were assigned a cookie.  However, some of these were
> direct connections to the SurvivalBlog site (around 4% of the total.) So if
> they had kept this practice up long enough and if you visited us enough times
> then the FBIbs computers would have given you a cookie. This has been
> verified with sniffer software.
> 
> Most alarming about this is that according to James Rawlesb analysis, usersb
> browsers were first redirected to an FBI server, then forced to download a
> cookie via their browser, and were then redirected back to his web site b the
> entire process unbeknownst to the end user because it happens almost
> instantly. Because the cookie isnbt removed unless you clear it from your
> browser (you can easily remove cookies manually) every web site subsequently
> visited by the user would then be logged by an FBI computer in real-time.
> 
> You can be assured that if the FBI is engaging in this type of surveillance,
> Survival Blog and other preparedness web sites arenbt alone. Chances are
> that, as Rawles mentions, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of web sites
> being tracked and monitored in similar fashion. A report from the Intel Hub
> confirms our suspicions, as do our own visitor logs, and webd venture to
> guess that most other web sites in the alternative news sphere will see
> similar access logs.
> 
> Perhaps for now the government surveillance net is somewhat limited to
> specific internet spheres of interest, as their surveillance infrastructure
> is still being constructed. But it wonbt be long, in fact less than 18
> months, before they have the ability to track every single phone call, text
> message, email, image and video upload, blog post, comment, search query and
> social networking activity in the world. Yes, thatbs right, EVERY SINGLE
> digital interaction:
> 
>     Via The Daily Crux:
> 
>     Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly
> named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency.
> 
>     A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle
> assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze,
> and store vast swaths of the worldbs communications, as they zap down from
> satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of
> international, foreign, and domestic networks.
> 
> As we highlighted in Everything You Do Is Monitored, the government is
> rapidly taking steps across the nationbs entire security apparatus and its
> ancillary arms such as major search engines, private banks,
> telecommunications companies and social networks to log, aggregate and
> analyze the behavior of individual users as well as groups to which they
> belong. To what end is anybodybs guess (but we could, of course, venture a
> few theories).
> 
> It should be perfectly clear. Whether youbre a prepper, alternative news
> buff, or none of the above, the government wants to know what youbre doing.
> No one is immune to the surveillance state.
> 
> Webre all suspects now.
> 
> Theybre watching.
> 
> Resources: Here are some things you can do to protect your privacy online:
> 
> -Anonymous Web Surfing (Article)
> 
> -Set up a Virtual Private Network to protect your web surfing identity
> 
> -The TOR Project: Open source, free anonymous browsing
> 
> -Surf the internet from public wireless access points (Article) 
> 
> Author: Mac Slavo Date: March 21st, 2012 Website: www.SHTFplan.com
> 
> Copyright Information: Copyright SHTFplan and Mac Slavo. This content may be
> freely reproduced in full or in part in digital form with full attribution to
> the author and a link to www.shtfplan.com. Please contact us for permission
> to reproduce this content in other media formats.
> 


//Alif

-- 
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advertise."    [Capitalization as in original]

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:27:30 +0100
Subject: [tahoe-dev] Logging howto / sftp with hashed passwords
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:04:45 +0100
Subject: [cryptography] [info] The NSA Is Building the Country's 
  Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
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From peter at allicient.co.uk  Thu Mar 22 19:23:09 2012
From: peter at allicient.co.uk (Peter Maxwell)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 02:23:09 +0000
Subject: [cryptography] [info] The NSA Is Building the Country's Biggest
	Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <mailman.3336.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 22 March 2012 17:02, Marsh Ray <marsh at extendedsubset.com> wrote:

> On 03/22/2012 09:57 AM, Peter Maxwell wrote:
>
>>
>> From
>>
>> http://blogs.computerworld.com/19917/shocker_nsa_chief_denies_total_information_awareness_spying_on_americans?source=CTWNLE_nlt_security_2012-03-22
>>
>>   "Remember," former intelligence official Binney stated, "a lot of
>>> foreign government stuff we've never been able to break is 128 or
>>> less. Break all that and you'll find out a lot more of what you
>>> didn't know-stuff we've already stored-so there's an enormous
>>> amount of information still in there."
>>>
>>
> In other words, they've accumulated a backlog of ciphertext. Encryption
> working as designed.


Depends on what you mean by "as designed" really.  Personally, I'd presume
as designed is to slow down or hinder an adversary, which would probably
fit in this scenario.



>
>
>  Binney added the NSA is "on the verge of breaking a key encryption
>>> algorithm."
>>>
>>
> This sounds like budget boondoggle baloney to me.
>
> How can you be "on the verge" of something like that?
>
> You might have some ideas on how to attack it, but until they're proven
> they're just guesses and likely to be dead ends. Not something you
> should justify reworking your computing systems around.
>
> But once they're proven, you're not "on the verge".


Meh, strictly speaking, yes, but if we're talking in practical terms it may
be the case that they've figured out how to break some cryptographic
primitive in significantly less time than the original design
specifications but it would still take more computing oomph than they
currently have.  Fairly sure there was similar considerations about 64-bit
RC5 in the late 90s - people knew it could be cracked by brute force, but
took a distributed effort to prove as much (may have details slightly wrong
as was long time ago and I can't be bothered looking it up).

The scenario is not particularly likely though.




>
>
>  That sounds far more plausible than the previous explanations.  I'd
>> also suspect the "key encryption algorithm" may be RC4 and not AES
>> at the moment.
>>
>
> Or it could just be all the 40- and 56- bit stuff that was captured by
> wiretapping Americans and not decrypted way back when the NSA felt
> constrained by laws.
>

Hehe... "NSA constrained by laws", erm, yeah, I suppose there's a first for
everything ;-)



>
> Or it could be everything using 512-bit RSA key exchange.
>
> Or it could be everything for which the security of the encryption
> ultimately depends on a user-chosen password. E.g., MS-PPTP/MPPE (but
> there's nothing really new about this).
>
> Or it could be a common protocol using a cipher weakly. For example, I
> noticed this the other day about RDP "standard, non-FIPS" mode:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc240771%28v=prot.10%29.aspx
> If the endpoints do actually manage to negotiate the use of 128 bit (as
> opposed to 40 or 56 bit) security, it uses the output of RC4 without
> discarding any initial bytes. Those initial bytes have some
> correlations, some of which can expose the whole key. Just to make sure
> the 1684 bit state size of RC4 doesn't get stale, the protocol refreshes
> the key every 4096 packets. (Actually better than MPPE which seems to
> rekey every 1 or 256 packets depending on negotiated options).
>
> Or it could be complete BS.


In reality, they've probably got a lot of uses for more computing power and
the chances of us ever finding out in our lifetime are slim.

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From dan at geer.org  Fri Mar 23 05:42:29 2012
From: dan at geer.org (dan at geer.org)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 08:42:29 -0400
Subject: [cryptography] [info] The NSA Is Building the Country's Biggest
	Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <mailman.3337.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>


Jdean at lsuhsc.edu writes, in part:

 > Even if the intercepted communication is AES encrypted and unbroken
 > today, all that stored data will be cracked some day. Then it too
 > can be data-mined.

What percentage of acquirable/storable traffic do you
suppose actually exhibits perfect forward secrecy?

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From jamesd at echeque.com  Thu Mar 22 16:41:10 2012
From: jamesd at echeque.com (James A. Donald)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:41:10 +1000
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Distributed filesystem choices (aka: none yet?)
Message-ID: <mailman.3338.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 2012-03-23 4:55 AM, Volodya wrote:
> I don't quite understand. The system must be [anonymous in the sense that the
> uploader cannot be identified]&&  [have moderation system based on something
> other than the blocks popularity like in GnuNet/Freenet*]. The system must be
> [using limited amount of disk space given by its users] and [provide infinite
> storage guarantee when moderation doesn't apply].
>
> I think that the reason why you can't find this filesystem is akin to the reason
> why all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good god has not been spotted yet.

Here is a solution:

Everyone is, as with Bitcoin, identified by a public key - but by quite a 
few public keys, providing not anonymity but pseudonymity.

When you store stuff on someone else's system you issue an IOU, which IOU 
is anonymously transferable, using a chaumian protocol, which *does*  
provide anonymity - you pseudonymously store other people's stuff, and  
anonymously use the resulting IOUs to store your own stuff.

>From time to time you check that stuff that is stored on someone else's  
system is available by random sampling.

When stuff stored on someone else's system becomes inaccessible, you note 
him as unreliable, and thus decline to issue IOUs or services to him in 
future, though since IOUs are transferable, you are still up for any IOUs 
you have issued to him in the past.

The software attempts to cancel out IOUs - so that if Bob provides  
services to Carol, Carol provides services to Edwards, and Edwards  
provides services to Bob, they cancel out.  If someone's IOUs get  
cancelled out in a cycle of IOUs that include your own, or include those  
you have confidence are reliable, this is evidence he is reliable in that 
his IOUs are good.

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reliable, and with those where storing stuff with them enables you to  
cancel out IOUs.

You give low priority to storing stuff from people whose IOUs you have no 
reason to believe.

Repeating: You pseudonymously store other people's stuff, using a nym that 
gains reputation thereby, and anonymously store your stuff on other  
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From brianc at smallworldnews.tv  Fri Mar 23 09:49:38 2012
From: brianc at smallworldnews.tv (Brian Conley)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:49:38 -0700
Subject: [liberationtech] Drones are not storytellers or why Syrians need
	better storytelling was Re: Pirate Bay turns to drones
Message-ID: <mailman.3339.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Not only the development costs, but the litigation/jail time costs as well
are a huge issue with more innovative applications of drone tech.

Further, the idea of implementing drones in Syria first of all is a huge
safety risk, and could fundamentally change the perception of an already
hostile regime to encourage increasingly worse actions.

Secondly, the drones for human rights stuff all forgets a fundamental
issue, people care about stories, not grainy footage, unless the crimes are
so enormous, and even then they don't encourage action nor do they help
inform outsiders what exactly Syrians want or need.

For example, there is a fundamental difference between videos like these
that Iraqis we worked with in Baghdad were producing years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVib2fMtP1w

http://www.aliveinbaghdad.org/2008/07/28/al-sahwa-mistakes-in-adhamiya/

http://www.aliveinbaghdad.org/2007/10/08/us-military-destroys-iraqi-homes-by-mistake/

...and shaky content and long range images of what often may or may not be
the "heinous crimes" individuals claim.

see this video for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kQMSkdo_jc&feature=player_embedded

I think its pretty clear why more efforts are not being made to more
effectively and repeatedly tell the stories of individual refugees and
people who have lost homes and loved ones. The people documenting are most
often men, and as a man who has had the same problem myself when
documenting police violence, war, etc, we too often resort to documenting
horrible events, both because we are shocked and because that involves an
adrenaline rush and provides its own sort of benefit to us as individuals,
and leaves beside the wayside any review of whether this content is really
moving minds or pushing forward a liberation agenda.

As a trainer who has worked with individuals all over the world in conflict
areas and the developing world, I have found that women are the best
trainees, followed closely by older men. Young people are often too caught
up in the moment and the injustice of it all to more effectively document
or listen to recommendations about composition, pacing, etc. I guess this
is a bit off-topic, but after spending a long time in a fairly pointless
discussion with a man from Hama about this subject last night, I felt the
need to mention it here.

I'm still trying to sort out exactly why I think the idea of drones as
human rights documentation may make sense, but it certainly cannot replace
storytelling or investigative reporting.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Andrew Lewis <andrew at pdqvpn.com> wrote:

> Yes, telecomix is looking at drones, and really the proposal by TPB is
> outlandish to current drone builders/operators, but most of the limitations
> seem to be artificially limited technical issues that no one has thought
> past due to limitations by US/UK/EU regulations. If you disregard these
> rules, long range drones are well within the realm of possibility. I think
> an open source drone program is possible, if people are willing to commit
> the resources and accept the overall development costs.
>
> Andrew Lewis
> Twitter: ThePunkbob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 23, 2012, at 4:53 PM, KheOps <kheops at ceops.eu> wrote:
>
> > Indeed, we're working on drones to film and livestream stuff in hostile
> > environment such as Syria :) Will keep you posted if something concrete
> > is somehow produced :)
> >
> > On 03/23/2012 04:57 PM, David Johnson wrote:
> >> It sounded ridiculous, but ideas can come from jokes.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:48 AM, KheOps <kheops at ceops.eu
> >> <mailto:kheops at ceops.eu>> wrote:
> >>
> >>    This is a joke - at least according to tetsu0, one of the TPB folks
> :)
> >>
> >>    On 03/23/2012 04:44 PM, David Johnson wrote:
> >>> http://thepiratebay.se/blog/210
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      /TPB LOSS/
> >>>
> >>> /We were down a few hours earlier today. There's no need to worry, we
> >>> haven't been raided this time. We're only upgrading stuff since we're
> >>> still growing./
> >>>
> >>> /One of the technical things we always optimize is where to put our
> >>> front machines. They are the ones that re-direct your traffic to a
> >>> secret location. We have now decided to try to build something
> >>> extraordinary./
> >>>
> >>> /With the development of GPS controlled drones, far-reaching cheap
> >>    radio
> >>> equipment and tiny new computers like the Raspberry Pi
> >>> <http://www.raspberrypi.org/>, we're going to experiment with sending
> >>> out some small drones that will float some kilometers up in the air.
> >>> This way our machines will have to be shut down with aeroplanes in
> >>    order
> >>> to shut down the system. A real act of war./
> >>>
> >>> /We're just starting so we haven't figured everything out yet. But we
> >>> can't limit ourselves to hosting things just on land anymore.
> >>    These Low
> >>> Orbit Server Stations (LOSS) are just the first attempt. With modern
> >>> radio transmitters we can get over 100Mbps per node up to 50km
> >>    away. For
> >>> the proxy system we're building, that's more than enough./
> >>>
> >>> /But when time comes we will host in all parts of the galaxy,
> >>    being true
> >>> to our slogan of being the galaxy's most resilient system. And all of
> >>> the parts we'll use to build //that system on will be downloadable./
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> David V. Johnson
> >>> Web Editor
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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar 23 03:12:24 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:12:24 +0100
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Distributed filesystem choices (aka: none
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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar 23 03:47:34 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:47:34 +0100
Subject: [cryptography] [info] The NSA Is Building the Country's 
  Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <20120323104734.GC9891@leitl.org>

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From jis at qyv.net  Fri Mar 23 09:18:23 2012
From: jis at qyv.net (Jeffrey I. Schiller)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:18:23 -0400
Subject: [cryptography]
	[info] The NSA Is Building the Countrybs Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <mailman.3340.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

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Let's think this through a bit. Assuming no stupendous breakthrough,
breaking encrypted messages will always take a significant amount of
time (and depending on the amount of "stuff" you have to deal with, 1
or 2 seconds might be significant!).

So I see really only two purposes for such a massive data center, and
I suspect both are addressed.

1) Use best available (to the NSA) techniques for breaking selected
   encrypted messages. Presumably these would be those from foreign
   governments and from suspected terrorists etc. But this will always
   be a limited number of messages.

2) Traffic analysis, including plain text analysis of unencrypted
   communications. Sure, there is a lot of encrypted stuff out
   there. But there is also a ton of unencrypted stuff, or stuff where
   you can easily get access to the unencrypted version (aka financial
   transactions etc.). And even of the encrypted traffic, a lot can be
   discarded as boring (aka say all of the https traffic to
   amazon.com).

I bet everyone on this list can send encrypted messages to each other
and they will never be broken... because they probably already know
who we all are and (at least I hope) have put us all in the "mostly
harmless" bucket.

                        -Jeff

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From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:47:40 +0100
Subject: [cryptography] [info] The NSA Is Building the Country's 
  Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar 23 07:34:15 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:34:15 +0100
Subject: National Counterterrorism Center gets insane new power over 
  private data on Americans 
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http://endthelie.com/2012/03/23/national-counterterrorism-center-gets-insane-new-power-over-private-data-on-americans/

National Counterterrorism Center gets insane new power over private data on
Americans

By Madison Ruppert

Editor of End the Lie

Barack Obama with (now former) NCTC Director Michael Leiter, center right,
leadership and analysts in the secure video teleconference room at the
National Counterterrorism Center in McLean, Va, Oct. 6, 2009. (Image credit:
White House/Samantha Appleton) Just when you thought the ludicrously paranoid
federal government of the United States of America couldnbt get any worse;
Attorney General Eric Holder signed new guidelines for the National
Counterterrorism Center (NCTC).

The American Big Brother surveillance state has grown exponentially over
recent years and it does not look like it is going to be slowing down any
time soon with the new guidelines which allow private data on Americans can
be held when there is no suspicion of them being tied to terrorism for a
whopping five years.

Keep in mind, internet service providers just announced that they will soon
be engaging in the largest digital spying operation in history, along with
the National Security Agency (NSA) building a behemoth data center to process
information, which could include just about anything.

Now the NCTC is getting even more power from the Obama administration,
something akin to the George W. Bush-era bTotal Information Awarenessb
program which was supposedly partially shut down by Congress.

For those who are unaware, the NCTC was established by Presidential Executive
Order 13354 in 2004 and later actually codified by the Intelligence Reform
and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004. They are in an interesting position
given that they report directly to the President and to the Director of
National Intelligence, while following the policy dictated by the President
and the National and Homeland Security Councils.

Their primary focus is the collection and sharing of information, supposedly
related to terrorism, but thanks to the new guidelines, they really donbt
need to even pretend it is about terrorism anymore.

Their information sharing reach goes far and wide, including the intelligence
community and bState, Local, Tribal, and Private partners b in coordination
with DHS, FBI, and other members of the ITACG Advisory Council,b according to
the official website.

Anyone who has been following these issues likely realizes that the federal
government just repackaged the Total Information Awareness program.

Now it exists as a much more distributed network of data harvesting and
analysis systems involving both private and public entities.

Much of the raw data mining work has been taken up by Silicon Valley giants
and the technology sector, but now the NCTC will be better able to openly
utilize this information against Americans who have absolutely no links to
terrorism whatsoever.

While the guidelines are public, I seriously doubt that the public document
is the true, complete guide for their operations.

Seeing as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) seems to have absolutely
no problem blatantly deceiving Congress, I see no reason to believe that the
government would be upfront with the American people about anything these
days. After all, they wonbt even tell us why they have decided that it is
legal to kill us.

These new guidelines are expected to result in the NCTC cloning entire
databases of personal information on Americans, which they then will data
mine using highly complex algorithms which supposedly can search for patterns
that might indicate a possible, potential threat.

According to unnamed intelligence officials cited by the New York Times,
these new guidelines have been under development for some 18 months.

They claim that they came in the wake of the designed-to-fail bunderwear
bomberb attack by Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.

They claim that after the fact, they discovered that they had intercepted al
Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) communications and a report from the
United States Consulate in Nigeria which could have identified Abdulmutallab
before he was shuffled on to a plane by a U.S. government agent, according to
eyewitness and practicing attorney Kurt Haskell.

These changes will supposedly allow analysts to identify suspected terrorists
more quickly, yet this assertion is patently absurd since Abdulmutallabbs
father attempted to warn both the United States and Nigeria about what his
son was doing.

Clearly, they were not interested, and it is likely the case that the
government knew full well what was going on, perhaps even running the
operation from the top as they have so many terrorist patsies, the most
recent of which came just last month.

Haskellbs testimony is damning to say the least and the governmentbs reaction
to it was even more damning.

Dutch counterterrorism officials claimed that Abdulmutallab had a valid
Nigerian passport when he boarded the flight, also citing security footage
which did not show any accomplices.

When Haskell encouraged them to put out the video to prove him wrong, U.S.
officials then claimed that they were trying to identify and find the
well-dressed man with the American accent that ushered Abdulmutallab on to
the plane, adding that they believed he was there to make sure Abdulmutallab
bdid not get cold feet.b

I could go on for years tearing apart the farcical fairy tale that is the
underwear bomber case, but I have touched on it before and my readers are
likely astute enough to do their own research and come to their own
conclusions on this matter.

The main thing you should take away from this is that you should be extremely
skeptical of the justifications given to wildly expand these NCTC powers,
especially when even DHS officials claim to be ignorant when it comes to
these critical details of the Abdulmutallab case. Itbs a lot easier to just
ignore the facts rather than address them and attempt to explain them away,
which is essentially impossible at this point.

bThere is a genuine operational need to try to get us into a position where
we can make the maximum use of the information the government already has to
protect people,b said Robert S. Litt, the general counsel in the office of
the Director of National Intelligence, which oversees the National
Counterterrorism Center.

This is the typical justification evoked by those who would love to see
nothing more than every single last one of our rights stripped away from us
in the name of safety.

bWe have to manage to do that in a way that provides protection to peoplebs
civil liberties and privacy. And I really think this has been a good-faith
and reasonably successful effort to do that,b Litt added.

However, there has been absolutely no protection of peoplebs civil liberties
or privacy, in fact their bgood-faith and reasonably successful effortb has
led directly to increased monitoring of the internet by DHS, which has been
objected to by Representative Jackie Speier, not to mention the complete
eradication of the right to due process and Eric Holderbs declaration that
they have the legal authority to assassinate Americans.

What few civil liberties we have left and what miniscule shred of privacy
remains is being quickly swept away, as evidenced by these new NCTC
guidelines.

The NCTC has already created a list of databases to copy in their entirety b
which Litt and others refuse to detail b and the DHS already shares a great
deal of information, including biometric databases, as revealed by a FOIA
lawsuit in November of last year.

These new guidelines were also signed by Director of National Intelligence
James R. Clapper Jr., who made news here at End the Lie early last month when
he nonsensically claimed that Iran is bnow more willing to conduct an attack
in the United States in response to real or perceived U.S. actions that
threaten the regime.b

The previous guidelines issued in 2008 outlined three ways for the NCTC to
gather information on Americans collected by another agency.

These options were: conducting a blimitedb search for the target data on
their own, asking another agency to perform the search, or by copying the
entire database and analyzing the information at the NCTC.

Of course such division between agencies now are little more than theater,
one example being the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court which
green-lighting nearly all of the requests they get for years.

If the NCTC asks an agency to conduct a search, I seriously doubt that the
NCTC would have to ask twice, and it is likely the case that the agency would
just hand over the entire database.

After all, our tyrannical federal government has been making a concerted
effort to break down any and all barriers (many of which are highly
beneficial to the rights, privacy and safety of Americans) through such
centers as the NCTC and the nationwide Fusion Centers.

While the new NCTC guidelines will keep these three methods in place, they
are placing a strong emphasis on the third option, likely because they want
to collect and analyze as much private information on Americans as humanly
possible.

Handling data of this magnitude will be quite a bit easier when the NSAbs new
data center is finished. Remember, all of these agencies work hand in hand.

The new guidelines allow for private information on Americans with no
suspected ties to terrorism to be held for five years, although I suspect in
actuality it will be much longer.

This is because the previous guidelines instructed the NCTC to delete data on
innocent Americas promptly, which they somehow decided was 180 days if no
ties to terrorism were detected (or manufactured).

Furthermore, the first two options do not allow the bpattern analysisb
techniques the NCTC loves so much, but there are no restrictions on cloned
databases.

The executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC)
has raised concerns about how these new guidelines could come into play with
the many proposals to give the government increased access to a wide range of
information and networks under the guise of protecting critical
infrastructure.

I have been covering this issue as much as possible, including McCainbs
proposal which would give the power to the NSA and the military, along with
the alternative proposal which would give the power to the DHS.

Both of these proposals follow the recommendations made by a report published
by MIT which had a laundry list of corporate badvisersb who would directly
benefit from such legislation. In effect, they are identical; it is just a
matter of which alphabet agency will be the standard bearer.

These new guidelines do not mention how data mined from commercial sources b
such as credit card records, travel records, etc b will be used, but the
NCTCbs partnership with the private sector is far from reassuring.

Furthermore, back in 2009 Wiredbs Threat Level got their hands on a list of
the databases which the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) acquired.

As noted above, the FBI is one of the NCTCbs many government partners when it
comes to sharing information, which means we can assume that the NCTC has all
of the databases the FBI has obtained.

These databases included almost 200 million records of private information
belonging to Americans which was obtained through private so-called bdata
brokersb like ChoicePoint. They also included some 55,000 records from
Wyndham hotels and this was only what was obtained from a single agency a
single time in 2009.

Whatever the justification du jour may be, I recommend that you take a few
steps back and examine the situation at hand.

The government is neither keeping us safe nor serving us as they truly
should. In fact, they manufacture terrorism, and have been doing so for quite
a while now, in order to make us think that they are keeping us safe and keep
believing that they are serving our interests while happily handing over our
hard-earned cash and most critical rights.

Instead, they are robbing us blind through several means including the naked
corruption of the private Federal Reserve, while taking away every last one
of our most critical freedoms and slaughtering countless innocent people
across the world while turning just about everything, including innocuous
bodily movements, into indicators of terrorism.

We, as Americans, must push back against the American surveillance state and
start asserting our right to privacy and the fact that we now know beyond a
reasonable doubt that the war on terror has been a scam from the start.

Take a stand, raise awareness and help us turn the tide against citizen
spying (see also here, here, and here), the rapidly growing surveillance
market, and the behemoth agency known as the DHS which would make the likes
of Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Mussolini green with envy several times over.

Only through making Americans aware of the reality of the dire situation we
are in can we hope to begin to push back. As long as the government can
successfully push their manufactured narrative through false flag terrorism
and fear mongering, the American people will remain easily controlled.

You can help by taking the few moments out of your day to share this article
with anyone and everyone who can manage to get past their programming and
face the facts. All it takes is a single person to set off a chain reaction
of awakening and enact real change.

On that note, Ibll leave you with this fitting quote from Samuel Adams:

bIt does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless
minority keen to set brush fires in peoplebs minds.b

Did I miss anything or would you like to submit some of your own original
writing or perhaps send a story tip or some other information my way? Email
me at [email protected]




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From: himqem44 at riederer.com (=?koi8-r?B?IvfFzMnLz8zF0M7ZyiDQz8TB0s/LIg==?=)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:03:04 +0500
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From m-- at gmx.com  Fri Mar 23 09:41:57 2012
From: m-- at gmx.com (Michael Rogers)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:41:57 +0000
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Distributed filesystem choices (aka: none yet?)
Message-ID: <mailman.3341.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 22/03/12 23:41, James A. Donald wrote:
> Repeating: You pseudonymously store other people's stuff, using a nym
> that gains reputation thereby, and anonymously store your stuff on other
> people's systems, using a nym with no reputation.

Hi James,

This is an intriguing idea, but I don't understand how cancelling out
cycles of IOUs (which sounds very much like PledgeRoute, is that right?)
can be combined with Chaumian mixing of IOUs.

Let's say for the sake of argument that we've solved the problem of
finding a trustworthy party to perform the mixing.

Before mixing, Alice has an IOU from Bob. Alice has interacted with Bob
before and established a credit limit for him, so she knows how much an
IOU from him is worth. Alice puts her IOU into the mix and gets out
someone else's IOU. Now she has an IOU from someone she's never
interacted with. How does Alice know the IOU is worth anything?

Cheers,
Michael
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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar 23 09:26:42 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:26:42 +0100
Subject: [cryptography] [info] The =?utf-8?Q?NS?= 
  =?utf-8?Q?A_Is_Building_the_Country=E2=80=99?= 	=?utf-8?Q?s?= Biggest
  Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar 23 09:51:47 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:51:47 +0100
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Distributed filesystem choices (aka: none
  yet?)
Message-ID: <20120323165147.GW9891@leitl.org>

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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar 23 09:52:18 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:52:18 +0100
Subject: [liberationtech] Drones are not storytellers or why Syrians
  need 	better storytelling was Re: Pirate Bay turns to drones
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 * в каком случае выплата зарплаты на спецрежимах сохраняет актуальность;

 * дивидендные схемы √ замена выплаты зарплате на "упрощенке"? Нюансы, рекомендации. Выплата квартальных дивидендов ежемесячно частями. Выплаты из прибыли в АО, ООО, производственном кооперативе ("народном предприятии"). Расчет эффективности,

 * договоры с предпринимателем: возмездного оказания услуг, выполнения работ, агентский, транспортные услуги, механизм трансфертных цен, штрафные санкции, аренда и пр. Способы минимизации рисков имущественной ответственности предпринимателя. Расчет эффективности,

 * дарение физлицом наличных денег, заработанных в качестве предпринимателя: легальная альтернатива обналичиванию, дающая безналоговый доход? Выбор банков, проблемы, связанные с новым порядком ведения кассовых операций.

3. Условия применения всех схем: Непритворный характер заключаемых сделок. Экономическая целесообразность расходов ("деловая цель", "легенда", отсутствие дублирующихся функций). Грамотное обоснование цен и качественное документальное оформление расходов. Неаффилированность, прямые и косвенные признаки аффилированности, ее негативные последствия и когда она допустима; "искусственное дробление бизнеса с целью уклонения от уплаты налогов" (подход "как к ЮКОСу"); "деловые цели", обосновывающие деление бизнеса. Самостоятельность низконалоговых субъектов. 
4. Использование вспомогательных организаций:

 *  "инвалидные" организации и их филиалы, актуальность;

 * страховые компании. Долгосрочное накопительное страхование жизни работников и ДМС за счет предприятия.

5. Использование иностранных (низконалоговых) компаний. Корпоративные или личные пластиковые карты иностранных банков. Перевод на них или на карты российских банков зарплат, компенсаций, гонораров и иных легальных доходов от нерезидентов.

6. Как компенсировать снижение социальных гарантий (включая пенсионные накопления) работников при применении налоговых схем, не предусматривающих выплату зарплаты?

7. Использование процентных займов от физлиц. Расчет эффективности. Потребительский кредитный кооператив граждан √ способ получения безналогового дохода в виде процентов.

8. Специальные методы. Все виды компенсаций (за несвоевременную выплату заработной платы, за использование личного имущества, за разъездной характер работы, "золотые парашюты" и др.). Выплата арендной платы. Закуп у физлиц ТМЦ. Суточные. Обучение сотрудников с заключением ученического договора, как способ налогового планирования.

9. Потребительское кредитование, компенсация процентов по ипотечным кредитам и другие эффективные способы замены заработной платы безналоговыми источниками материальной выгоды.

10. Способы подтверждения источников крупных расходов физлиц и когда это необходимо.

2 день: Общие положения о налоговом планировании и налоги с доходов физических лиц (НДФЛ, страховые взносы)

1. Методы планирования налога на прибыль и НДС. Принципиальная невозможность экономии НДС "белыми" схемами и случаи, когда это все же возможно.

2. Низконалоговые субъекты:

 * субъекты специальных налоговых режимов √ ЕНВД и УСН, в т.ч. патентная система, субъекты УСН из "низконалоговых" регионов, где введена минимальная ставка единого налога при объекте "доходы минус расходы" (5%) на все или почти на все виды деятельности, а также простое товарищество с их участием,

 * оффшоры или связанные с ними компании-нерезиденты из респектабельных юрисдикций,

 * экзотические варианты: ИП на общей системе, физлица (при условии несистематичности извлечения дохода), "инвалидные" структуры, убыточные предприятия и фирмы, имеющие переплату НДС,

3. Незаконные варианты: "недобросовестные налогоплательщики" и контактирующие с ними риск-структуры ("белая" - "серая" - "черная" фирмы). Примеры "серых" схем с применением затратных механизмов (как нельзя "оптимизировать"!). Как не стать "недобросовестным".

4. Способы переноса налогооблагаемой базы по налогу на прибыль на низконалоговых субъектов:

 * нефиктивные услуги, работы,

 * выплата процентов по долговым обязательствам. Включение процентов в расходы в любом размере,

 * платежи за использование и обслуживание объектов основных средств и нематериальных активов, в т.ч. лицензионные и франчайзинговые,

 * штрафные санкции, возмещение убытков, включая демередж и прочий простой,

 * платежи за увеличенный срок и/или объем гарантийных обязательств,

 * плата за залог или поручительство, делькредере.

 * механизм трансфертных цен. Новое антитрансфертное законодательство, способы ухода от контроля за сделками, грамотное обоснование трансфертных цен,

5. Займы как способ возвратного рефинансирования √ преимущества и недостатки, риск ведения незаконной банковской деятельности. Безналоговое рефинансирование (возврат) и капитализация выведенной прибыли предприятия (холдинга) через уставный капитал, безвозмездную передачу имущества, увеличение чистых активов, ст. 27 Закона "Об ООО".

6. Простое товарищество субъектов упрощенной системы налогообложения, в т.ч. из "низконалоговых" регионов. Уплата НДС. Перенос прибыли товарищества на низконалоговых субъектов (УСН 6%, ЕНВД, оффшор и др.). Отсрочка уплаты налога при непередаче прибыли на счета товарищей. Возможен ли обход с помощью простого товарищества правил налогового учета (гл. 25 НК) и ограничений гл. 26.2 НК РФ в части перечня затрат?

7. Экономия НДС в торговле, производстве, выполнении работ, оказании услуг через разделение финансово-товарных потоков "с НДС" и "без НДС". Ограничение использования: покупатели/заказчики, не нуждающиеся в вычете НДС, как их выявить, или создать искусственно. Риски и рекомендации по использованию схемы.

8. Иностранные низконалоговые компании, цели применения. Их использование при проведении внутрироссийских операций для оптимизации налога на прибыль: традиционные (торговля, проценты, дивиденды, роялти, услуги и т.п.) и нетрадиционные схемы (простое товарищество, агентские). Выбор низконалоговых юрисдикций.

9. Обзор изменений налогового законодательства, как они повлияют на налоговые схемы. Ответы на вопросы. По желанию и по возможности √ индивидуальное экспресс-моделирование схем налогового планирования для компаний-участниц курса.

3 день: Построение виртуальной группы компаний (холдинга): что это дает для налоговой оптимизации

1. Методы планирования НДС. Принципиальная невозможность экономии НДС "белыми" схемами и случаи, когда это все же возможно.

2. Оптимизация НДС и налога на прибыль в оптовой и розничной торговле и производстве с использованием ИП на ЕНВД с уплатой символического налога (маленький торговый зал, торговое место, развозная торговля). Нюансы. Ограничение использования: покупатели, не нуждающиеся в вычете НДС, как их выявить или создать искусственно. Риски, связанные определением розничной торговли по ГК и рекомендации по использованию схемы.

3. Экономия НДС в производстве, выполнении работ, оказании услуг, аренде и т.п. через разделение доходов и перераспределение расходов "с НДС" и "без НДС".

4. Примеры "серых" схем ("псевдооптимизации") НДС (как нельзя "оптимизировать"!). Недобросовестные налогоплательщики и контактирующие с ними риск-структуры ("белая" - "серая" - "черная" фирмы). Реализация товаров через неплательщика НДС (принципала) с использованием агентского договора. Планирование НДС с использованием механизма переоценки. Схема с небольшим агентским вознаграждением и большой дополнительной экономией (агент √ субъект УСН, договор предусматривает, что вся допвыгода принадлежит ему). Создание недоимки по налогам на фирме, не обремененной активами. Агент (комиссионер) не может удержать НДС при выплате дохода принципалу (комитенту)-нерезиденту (векселем и т.п.).

5. "Метод холдинга" в налоговом планировании. Понятие виртуальной группы компаний (холдинга) как средства налогового планирования. Создание рациональной финансовой и организационной холдинговой структуры, схемы товарно-финансовых потоков и договорных отношений холдинга. Рациональное построение финансовых потоков и договорных отношений в холдинге через разделение оборотов, капитала (прибыли), активов, персонала, отношений с контрагентами и рисков Элементы холдинга √ Основные предприятия, Управляющая или финансирующая компания (Казначейство), Хранитель активов, Торговый дом (Снабжающая или закупочная организация), Центры обслуживания (Кадровые центры), риск-структуры и их роли в налоговом планировании. Оперативное распределение налоговой нагрузки между участниками холдинга.

6. Два реальных примера комплексного налогового планирования в холдингах. Математическая модель налогообложения холдинга на цифровом примере, расчет эффективности налоговой оптимизации в холдинге.

7. Принципы налогового планирования использования основных средств. Планирование налога на имущество. "Хранитель активов" (лицо √ собственник имущественного комплекса), низконалоговые и безналоговые способы передачи имущества. Схемы с использованием лизинга. Возвратный лизинг. Переоценка основных средств и нелинейная амортизация.

8. Способы безналоговой и низконалоговой продажи имущества, включая недвижимость (крупные разовые сделки с большой прибылью): аргументированное занижение цены и создание затрат, оплата части стоимости через компании-нерезиденты; продажа через низконалогового субъекта (физлицо, УСН 6%, офшор┘); вклад в уставный капитал или реорганизация с последующей продажей новой компании напрямую покупателю или через низконалогового субъекта; простое товарищество. Риски.

9. Иностранные низконалоговые компании. Их использование при проведении внутрироссийских операций для оптимизации налога на прибыль: традиционные (торговля, проценты, дивиденды, роялти, услуги, и т.п) и нетрадиционные схемы (простое товарищество, агентские). Выбор низконалоговых юрисдикций.

10. Предприятия и организации инвалидов √ сохраняется ли их актуальность и в каких случаях? Рекомендации, типичные ошибки.

11. Изменения налогового законодательства, как они повлияли на налоговые схемы. Ответы на вопросы. По желанию и по возможности √ индивидуальное экспресс-моделирование схем налогового планирования для компаний-участниц семинара.

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From psychosvnba218 at rowinguk.com  Fri Mar 23 06:59:11 2012
From: psychosvnba218 at rowinguk.com (=?koi8-r?B?98HI1M/XycvJ?=)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:29:11 +0530
Subject: =?koi8-r?B?98HI1M/X2cogzcXUz8Qgz9LHwc7J2sHDyckg0sHCz9Q=?=
Message-ID: <000d01cd08fd$1f719d20$6400a8c0@psychosvnba218>

   29 марта 2012 г.

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 * отличие служебной командировки от вахтового метода работы;

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From marcelplug at gmail.com  Fri Mar 23 21:08:11 2012
From: marcelplug at gmail.com (Marcel Plug)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 00:08:11 -0400
Subject: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al)
Message-ID: <mailman.3342.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

This article from arstechnica is right on topic.  Its about how the
city of Amsterdam built an open-access fibre network.  It seems to me
this is the right way to do it, or at least very close to the right
way..

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/how-amsterdam-was-wired-for-open-access-fiber.ars

-Marcel

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 14:18:26 -1000, Michael Painter said:
>
>> "The indication of above average or below average is based on a comparison of the actual test result to the current NTIA
>> definition of broadband which is 768 kbps download and 200 kbps upload. Any test result above the NTIA definition is
>> considered above average, and any result below is considered below average."
>
> That's the national definition of "broadband" that we're stuck with.  To show
> how totally cooked the books are, consider that when they compute "percent of
> people with access to residential broadband", they do it on a per-county basis
> - and if even *one* subscriber in one corner of the county has broadband, the
> entire county counts.
>

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From viragoesue41 at rlw.endjunk.com  Sat Mar 24 01:36:50 2012
From: viragoesue41 at rlw.endjunk.com (=?koi8-r?B?7s/Xz8UgzyDXwczA1M7PzSDLz87U0s/MxQ==?=)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 00:36:50 -0800
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ВНИМАНИЮ БАНКОВ, ФИНАНСОВЫХ, СТРАХОВЫХ КОМПАНИЙ - НОВЫЕ ИЗМЕНЕНИЯ ВСТУПИЛИ В СИЛУ
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05 апреля 2012г.

Лектор: начальник управления Департамента финансового Мониторинга и валютного контроля Банка России.

1. Система валютного регулирования и валютного контроля в Российской Федерации и валютный контроль уполномоченных банков. Федеральный закон "О валютном регулировании и валютном контроле" № 173-ФЗ (с изменениями и дополнениями, в том числе внесенными Федеральным законом от 27 июня 2011 г. N 162-ФЗ "О внесении изменений в отдельные законодательные акты Российской Федерации в связи с принятием Федерального закона "О национальной платежной системе"), императивные нормы. Регулирование порядка поведения валютных операций резидентами и нерезидентами, открытия и ведения резидентами счетов в банках, расположенных за пределами Российской Федерации. Режим счета, открытого за рубежом

2. ИЗМЕНЕНИЯ• Действие валютного законодательства в связи с принятием Федерального закона от 27 июня 2011 г. N 161-ФЗ "О национальной платежной системе"? (не вступил в силу) и Федерального закона от 27 июня 2011 г. N 162-ФЗ "О внесении изменений в отдельные законодательные акты Российской Федерации в связи с принятием Федерального закона "О национальной платежной системе"

3. Порядок осуществления валютного контроля, установленный нормативными актами Банка России по валютному контролю. Инструкция Банка России № 117-И (с изменениями и дополнениями). Паспорта сделок, как документы валютного контроля. Проблемные вопросы оформления и ведения. Документы валютного контроля, учета и отчетности. Действия уполномоченных банков при оформлении и проведении валютных операций. Указание Банка России от 26.09.08 № 2080-У "О внесении изменений в Положение Банка России № 258-П". Основные сроки представления документов валютного контроля (с учетом изменений). Направление информации о правонарушениях и Положение ЦБ РФ от 20.07.2007 N 308-П. Указание Банка России "О формах учета по валютным операциям, осуществляемым резидентами, за исключением кредитных организаций и валютных бирж" №1950-У и его влияние на квалификацию правонарушений. Порядок открытия и ведения счетов резидентов за пределами территории РФ. Правила осуществления резидентами валютных операций за счет средств, находящихся на счетах за рубежом. Переводы резидентами средств на свои счета.

4. Положение Банка России от 29.12.2010 № 364-П “О порядке передачи уполномоченными банками и территориальными учреждениями Банка России в таможенные органы для выполнения ими функций агентов валютного контроля информации по паспортам сделок по внешнеторговым договорам (контрактам) в электронном виде”. Указание Банка России от 29.12.2012 № 2556-У “О внесении изменения в пункт 1.2 Положения Банка России от 1 июня 2004 года № 258-П“О порядке представления резидентами уполномоченным банкам подтверждающих документов и информации, связанных с проведением валютных операций с нерезидентами по внешнеторговым сделкам, и осуществления уполномоченными банками контроля за проведением валютных операци3. Указание Банка России от 29.12.2010 № 2557-У “О внесении изменений в Инструкцию Банка России от 15 июня 2004 года № 117-И “О порядке представления резидентами и нерезидентами уполномоченным банкам документов и информации при осуществлении валютных операций, порядке учета уполномоченными банками валютных операций и оформления паспортов сделок”

5. Регулирование порядка представления информации о нарушениях валютного законодательства. Положение ЦБ РФ от 20.07.2007 N 308-П И практика его применения (с учетом последних изменений). Постановление Правительства РФ от 24 февраля 2009 г. N 166 "О порядке представления органами и агентами валютного контроля в орган валютного контроля, уполномоченный Правительством Российской Федерации. Практика применения Положения Банка России №308-П на примере конкретных нарушений.

6. Валютное регулирование операций физических лиц. Операции физических лиц и валютный контроль уполномоченных банков. Нормы прямого действия Федерального закона № 173-ФЗ (в том числе заработная плата и командировочные расходы). Порядок осуществления переводов денежных средств физическими лицами из Российской Федерации и по территории Российской Федерации. "Близкородственные" переводы. Действие Инструкции Банка России № 136-И.в связи с внесением изменений и дополнений в Федеральный закон № 115-ФЗ "О противодействии легализации (отмыванию) доходов, полученных преступным путем и финансированию терроризма" Федеральным законом от 27 июня 2011 г. N 162-ФЗ "О внесении изменений в отдельные законодательные акты Российской Федерации в связи с принятием Федерального закона "О национальной платежной системе" и в связи с принятием Федерального закона от 27 июня 2011 г. N 161-ФЗ "О национальной платежной системе"

7. Ответственность за нарушение валютного законодательства. Федеральный Закон № 174-ФЗ.

8. Перспективы развития валютного регулирования и валютного контроля в Российской Федерации.

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From: marsh at extendedsubset.com (Marsh Ray)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 02:29:30 -0500
Subject: [cryptography]
	[info] The NSA Is Building the Countrybs Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <mailman.3343.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 03/24/2012 01:28 AM, J.A. Terranson wrote:
>
> Ahhhhh... Probably not.  Think Jim Bell et al.   I suspect it is far more
> likely that the vast majority of subscribers here are listed in the
> Potentially Dangerous category, if not the flat out Budding Terrorist
> label.

Oh good grief. Do you even know how many subscribers this list has? If  
not, one shouldn't make such a statement without basis. The subscriber  
count wasn't public last I checked (today). Perhaps Jack Lloyd will tell 
us.

My guess is the majority of subscribers hardly ever post. Of those who do, 
many are noted academics, professional engineers, industry executives, 
public speakers, and others of good repute.

If you're looking for someplace to feel subversive around, this isn't it. 
Crypto is a mainstream engineering discipline these days, and one greatly 
needed by modern civilization.

Can we kill this thread now please?

- Marsh
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From anders at aleph.se  Sat Mar 24 05:36:51 2012
From: anders at aleph.se (Anders Sandberg)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:36:51 +0000
Subject: [ExI] The NSA's new data center
Message-ID: <mailman.3344.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

I did a little calculation: at what point can governments spy 24/7 on  
their citizens and store all the data?

I used the World Bank World Development Indicators and IMF predictors for 
future GDP growth and the United nations median population forecasts, the 
fit 10.^(-.2502*(t-1980)+6.304) for the cost (in dollars)per gigabyte 
(found on various pages about Kryder's law) and the assumption that 24/7 
video surveillance would require 10 TB per person per year.

Now, if we assume the total budget is 0.1% of the GDP and the storage is  
just 10% of that (the rest is overhead, power, cooling, facilities etc),  
then the conclusion is that doing this becomes feasible around 2020.  
Bermuda, Luxenbourg and Norway can do it in 2018, by 2019 most of Western 
Europe plus the US and Japan can do it. China gets there in 2022. The last 
countries to reach this level are Eritrea and Liberia in 2028, and finally 
Zimbabwe in 2031. By 2025 the US and China will be able to monitor all of 
humanity if they want to/are allowed.

So at least data storage is not going to be any problem. It would be very 
interesting to get some estimates of the change in cost of surveillance 
cameras and micro-drones, since presumably they are the ones that are 
actually going to be the major hardware costs. Offset a bit because we are 
helpfully adding surveillance capabilities to all our must-have smartphones 
and smart cars. I suspect the hardware part will delay introduction a bit 
in countries that want it, but that just mean there will be hardware 
overhang once they get their smart dust, locators or gnatbots.

Note that this kind of video archive is useful even if you don't have a  
myriad analysts, perfect speech recognition or AI (in fact, it would be a 
great incentive and training corpus for developing them). When you figure 
out that somebody is doing or have just done something nasty, you can 
easily backtrack and check on everybody they had been in touch with. It 
would be quite easy to catch most members of any rebel network this way as 
soon as it was recognized as a rebel network - and one could easily create 
incentives for not associating with potential subversives and/or reporting 
them, adding crowdsourced reporting. The only kind of uprisnings with any 
kind of chance would be spontaneous eruptions.

The more interesting (sinister) uses of this kind of intelligence corpus  
is of course to do trials and experiments to see what predicts social norm 
compliance and obedience. How well does various forms of nudging work? What 
about the longitudinal loyalty effects of natural or deliberate 
experiments? How well can you predict people from their saccade patterns?

We might actually be living in a short window of opportunity right now.  
The problem is not the surveillance per se, but the danger from  
non-accountable uses of them once they are in place. Totalitarian  
governments with this kind of transparency might prove extremely hard to  
dislodge, and could become stable attractor states. This suggests that we 
should work very hard on figuring out how to maintain government  
accountability even when it has total surveillance powers, and how to  
prevent open societies from sliding into the totalitarian trap. Given that 
the tail statistics of big disasters is dominated by pandemics, wars and 
democides we have very good reasons to view this as among the top questions 
for human survival.

Appendix:

2018    Bermuda
2018    Luxembourg
2018    Norway
2019    Australia
2019    Austria
2019    Belgium
2019    Canada
2019    Denmark
2019    Finland
2019    France
2019    Germany
2019    Iceland
2019    Ireland
2019    Japan
2019    Kuwait
2019    Netherlands
2019    Singapore
2019    Sweden
2019    Switzerland
2019    United Kingdom
2019    United States
2020    Cyprus
2020    French Polynesia
2020    Greece
2020    Israel
2020    Italy
2020    New Caledonia
2020    New Zealand
2020    Oman
2020    Puerto Rico
2020    Seychelles
2020    Slovakia
2020    Slovenia
2020    Spain
2020    United Arab Emirates
2021    Antigua and Barbuda
2021    Bahamas
2021    Bahrain
2021    Barbados
2021    Chile
2021    Croatia
2021    Czech Republic
2021    Equatorial Guinea
2021    Estonia
2021    Hungary
2021    Lithuania
2021    Poland
2021    Portugal
2021    Saudi Arabia
2021    Trinidad and Tobago
2021    Turkey
2022    Argentina
2022    Belarus
2022    Botswana
2022    Brazil
2022    Bulgaria
2022    China
2022    Costa Rica
2022    Cuba
2022    Dominica
2022    Dominican Republic
2022    Gabon
2022    Grenada
2022    Kazakhstan
2022    Latvia
2022    Lebanon
2022    Malaysia
2022    Mauritius
2022    Mexico
2022    Palau
2022    Panama
2022    Peru
2022    Romania
2022    South America
2022    Suriname
2022    Uruguay
2023    Albania
2023    Algeria
2023    Angola
2023    Azerbaijan
2023    Belize
2023    Bhutan
2023    Colombia
2023    Ecuador
2023    El Salvador
2023    Fiji
2023    Iraq
2023    Mongolia
2023    Morocco
2023    Namibia
2023    Serbia
2023    Thailand
2023    Tonga
2023    Tunisia
2023    Turkmenistan
2023    Ukraine
2024    Armenia
2024    Georgia
2024    Guatemala
2024    Guyana
2024    Honduras
2024    India
2024    Indonesia
2024    Marshall Islands
2024    Paraguay
2024    Philippines
2024    Samoa
2024    Sri Lanka
2024    Swaziland
2025    Bangladesh
2025    Cameroon
2025    Djibouti
2025    Egypt
2025    Ghana
2025    Lesotho
2025    Nicaragua
2025    Nigeria
2025    Pakistan
2025    Papua New Guinea
2025    Sao Tome and Principe
2025    Senegal
2025    Solomon Islands
2025    Sub-Saharan Africa
2025    Sudan
2025    Uzbekistan
2025    Zambia
2026    Afghanistan
2026    Benin
2026    Haiti
2026    Kenya
2026    Kyrgyzstan
2026    Mauritania
2026    Mozambique
2026    Tajikistan
2026    Uganda
2027    Central African Republic
2027    Chad
2027    Ethiopia
2027    Gambia
2027    Guinea
2027    Madagascar
2027    Malawi
2027    Mali
2027    Nepal
2027    Niger
2027    Rwanda
2027    Sierra Leone
2027    Togo
2028    Burundi
2028    Eritrea
2028    Liberia
2031    Zimbabwe

-- 
Anders Sandberg,
Future of Humanity Institute
Philosophy Faculty of Oxford University

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From iang at iang.org  Fri Mar 23 20:05:28 2012
From: iang at iang.org (ianG)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:05:28 +1100
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Distributed filesystem choices (aka: none yet?)
Message-ID: <mailman.3345.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On 24/03/12 03:41 AM, Michael Rogers wrote:
> On 22/03/12 23:41, James A. Donald wrote:
>> Repeating: You pseudonymously store other people's stuff, using a nym
>> that gains reputation thereby, and anonymously store your stuff on other
>> people's systems, using a nym with no reputation.
>
> Hi James,
>
> This is an intriguing idea, but I don't understand how cancelling out
> cycles of IOUs (which sounds very much like PledgeRoute, is that right?)
> can be combined with Chaumian mixing of IOUs.


He means Chaumian blinding protocol for transferring a single IOU from  
Alice to Bob.  A Chaum blinded transfer ensures that the issuer Ivan  
cannot trace the transfer from Alice to Bob, in this case it gives  
untraceability (as opposed to anonymity or psuedonymity).

(I suspect...)

Chaumian mixing is a completely different thing to Chaum's blinding formula.

iang

> Let's say for the sake of argument that we've solved the problem of
> finding a trustworthy party to perform the mixing.
>
> Before mixing, Alice has an IOU from Bob. Alice has interacted with Bob
> before and established a credit limit for him, so she knows how much an
> IOU from him is worth. Alice puts her IOU into the mix and gets out
> someone else's IOU. Now she has an IOU from someone she's never
> interacted with. How does Alice know the IOU is worth anything?
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
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From eugen at leitl.org  Sat Mar 24 07:46:20 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:46:20 +0100
Subject: [ExI] The NSA's new data center
Message-ID: <20120324144620.GG9891@leitl.org>

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From eugen at leitl.org  Sat Mar 24 10:56:27 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:56:27 +0100
Subject: [p2p-hackers] Distributed filesystem choices (aka: none
  yet?)
Message-ID: <20120324175627.GQ9891@leitl.org>

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From eugen at leitl.org  Sat Mar 24 11:11:30 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 19:11:30 +0100
Subject: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et
  al)
Message-ID: <20120324181130.GT9891@leitl.org>

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From eugen at leitl.org  Sat Mar 24 12:53:55 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 20:53:55 +0100
Subject: [cryptography] [info] The =?utf-8?Q?NS?= 
  =?utf-8?Q?A_Is_Building_the_Country=E2=80=99?= 	=?utf-8?Q?s?= Biggest
  Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <20120324195355.GV9891@leitl.org>

Marsh apparently assumes that sorting into 'good' and 'bad' buckets is 
actually based on evaluating background factors (which the evaluator
is somehow, all magically aware of)), and is in fact done by people
with plenty of quality eyeball time.

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From eugen at leitl.org  Sat Mar 24 14:20:29 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:20:29 +0100
Subject: John =?utf-8?B?TmFzaOKAmQ==?= 	=?utf-8?Q?s?= Letter to the NSA
Message-ID: <20120324212029.GA26394@leitl.org>

http://agtb.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/john-nashs-letter-to-the-nsa/ 

John Nashbs Letter to the NSA

February 17, 2012 by Noam Nisan

The National Security Agency (NSA) has recently declassified an amazing
letter that John Nash sent to it in 1955.  It seems that around the year 1950
Nash tried to interest some US security organs (the NSA itself was only
formally formed only in 1952) in an encryption machine of his design, but
they did not seem to be interested.  It is not clear whether some of his
material was lost, whether they ignored him as a theoretical professor, or b
who knows b used some of his stuff but did not tell him.  In this
hand-written letter sent by John Nash to the NSA in 1955, he tries to give a
higher-level point of view supporting his design:

    In this letter I make some remarks on a general principle relevant to
enciphering in general and to my machine in particular.

He tries to make sure that he will be taken seriously:

    I hope my handwriting, etc. do not give the impression I am just a crank
or circle-squarer.  My position here is Assist. Prof. of Math.  My best known
work is in game theory (reprint sent separately).

He then goes on to put forward an amazingly prescient analysis anticipating
computational complexity theory as well as modern cryptography.  In the
letter, Nash takes a step beyond Shannonbs information-theoretic
formalization of cryptography (without mentioning it) and proposes that
security of encryption be based on computational hardness b this is exactly
the transformation to modern cryptography made two decades later by the rest
of the world (at least publiclyb&).  He then goes on to explicitly focus on
the distinction between polynomial time and exponential time computation, a
crucial distinction which is the basis of computational complexity theory,
but made only about a decade later by the rest of the world:

    So a logical way to classify enciphering processes is by t he way in
which the computation length for the computation of the key increases with
increasing length of the key. This is at best exponential and at worst
probably at most a relatively small power of r, ar^2 or ar^3, as in
substitution ciphers.

He conjectures the security of a family of encryption schemes.  While not
totally specific here, in todaybs words he is probably conjecturing that
almost all cipher functions (from some b not totally clear b class) are
one-way:

    Now my general conjecture is as follows: for almost all sufficiently
complex types of enciphering, especially where the instructions given by
different portions of the key interact complexly with each other in the
determination of their ultimate effects on the enciphering, the mean key
computation length increases exponentially with the length of the key, or in
other words, the information content of the key.

He is very well aware of the importance of this bconjectureb and that it
implies an end to the game played between code-designers and code-breakers
throughout history.  Indeed, this is exactly the point of view of modern
cryptography.

    The significance of this general conjecture, assuming its truth, is easy
to see.  It means that it is quite feasible to design ciphers that are
effectively unbreakable.  As ciphers become more sophisticated the game of
cipher breaking by skilled teams, etc., should become a thing of the past.

He is very well aware that this is a conjecture and that he cannot prove it.
Surprisingly, for a mathematician, he does not even expect it to be solved.
Even more surprisingly he seems quite comfortable designing his encryption
system based on this unproven conjecture.  This is quite eerily what modern
cryptography does to this day: conjecture that some problem is
computationally hard; not expect anyone to prove it; and yet base their
cryptography on this unproven assumption.

    The nature of this conjecture is such that I cannot prove it, even for a
special type of ciphers.  Nor do I expect it to be proven.

All in all, the letter anticipates computational complexity theory by a
decade and modern cryptography by two decades.  Not bad for someone whose
bbest known work is in game theoryb.  It is hard not to compare this letter
to Goedelbs famous 1956 letter to von Neumann also anticipating complexity
theory (but not cryptography).  That both Nash and Goedel passed through
Princeton may imply that these ideas were somehow bin the airb there.

ht: this declassified letter seems to have been picked up by Ron Rivest who
posted it on his coursebs web-site, and was then blogged about (and G+ed) by
Aaron Roth.

Edit: Ron Rivest has implemented Nashbs cryptosystem in Python.  I wonder
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From: brk7bx at virginia.edu (Benjamin Kreuter)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:45:55 -0400
Subject: [cryptography]
	[info] The NSA Is Building the Countrybs Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <mailman.3346.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 02:29:30 -0500
Marsh Ray <marsh at extendedsubset.com> wrote:

> If you're looking for someplace to feel subversive around, this isn't 
> it. Crypto is a mainstream engineering discipline these days, and one 
> greatly needed by modern civilization.

Unfortunately, there is still a great deal of resistance to the notion
that cryptography is something that people should have, at least
cryptography without backdoors.  When last I checked, the Department of
Justice was still pushing communication service providers to include
some sort of back door, so that law enforcement agencies can decrypt
the encrypted communications of suspects in criminal cases.  They
basically think that the Hushmail model is the right one:

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/hear_02172011.html

(Apologies for the length; the summary is this:  the FBI is worried
about criminals or terrorists using encryption to hide their
communications from law enforcement and national security agencies, as
well as the lack of CALEA-style systems on the Internet. They as asking
for a law that requires communications service providers to provide
plaintexts if it is possible to do so e.g. Hushmail-style decryption.
The FBI insists that they are not talking about key escrow or key
recovery, and they avoid using the term "back door" to describe what
they want.)

Even worse, here at UVA we had a graduate student who was denied entry
because he traveled to a cryptography conference (he is here on a
student visa, and is a Chinese citizen). The State Department would not
allow him to come back to school unless he switched fields and stopped
doing computer security work.  He is working on wireless sensor
networks now -- clearly a field that could not possibly have any
national security implications.

The law has definitely improved over what cryptographers faced in the
90s, but the attitudes have not.  The US government still wants a
system where encrypted communications can be arbitrarily decrypted,
they just dress up the argument and avoid using dirty words like "key
escrow."

-- Ben



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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 18:22:43 -0700
Subject: [cryptography]
	[info] The NSA Is Building the Countrybs Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
Message-ID: <mailman.3347.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

ianG writes:

> On 26/03/12 07:43 AM, Jon Callas wrote:
> 
> >This is precisely the point I've made: the budget way to break crypto is to buy a zero-day. And if you're going to build a huge computer center, you'd be better off building fuzzers than key crackers.
> 
> point of understanding - what do you mean by fuzzers?

Automatically trying to make software incur faults with large amounts of
randomized (potentially invalid) input.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzz_testing

If you get an observable fault you can repeat the process under a
debugger and try to understand why it occurred and whether it is an
exploitable bug.  Here's a pretty detailed overview:

https://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-usa-07/Amini_and_Portnoy/Whitepaper/bh-usa-07-amini_and_portnoy-WP.pdf

When it was first invented, fuzzing basically just consisted of feeding
random bytes to software, but now it can include sophisticated
understanding of the kinds of data that a program expects to see, with
some model of the internal state of the program.  I believe there are
also fuzzers that examine code coverage, so they can give feedback to the
tester about whether there are parts of the program that the fuzzer isn't
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From eugen at leitl.org  Sun Mar 25 11:31:57 2012
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 20:31:57 +0200
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From marsh at extendedsubset.com  Sun Mar 25 20:55:12 2012
From: marsh at extendedsubset.com (Marsh Ray)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 22:55:12 -0500
Subject: [cryptography] Key escrow 2012
Message-ID: <mailman.3348.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>


(Nod to the rest of what you said)

On 03/25/2012 11:45 AM, Benjamin Kreuter wrote:
> The US government still wants a
> system where encrypted communications can be arbitrarily decrypted,
> they just dress up the argument and avoid using dirty words like "key
> escrow."

Aside from the deep moral and constitutional problems it poses, does  
anyone think the US Govt could have that even from a practical perspective?

* Some of the largest supercomputers in the world are botnets or are held 
by strategic competitor countries. This precludes the old key shortening 
trick.

* The Sony PS3 and HDMI cases show just how hard it can be to keep a  
master key secure sometimes. Master keys could be quite well protected,  
but from a policy perspective it's still a gamble that something won't go 
wrong which compromises everyone's real security (cause a public scandal, 
expose industrial secrets, etc.).

* Am I correct in thinking that computing additional trapdoor functions to 
enable USG/TLA/LEA decryption is not free? Mobile devices are becoming the 
primary computing devices for many. People may be willing to pay XX% in 
taxes, but nobody wants to pay a decrease in performance and battery life 
to enable such a misfeature.

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From nico at cryptonector.com  Sun Mar 25 21:54:13 2012
From: nico at cryptonector.com (Nico Williams)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:54:13 -0500
Subject: [cryptography] Key escrow 2012
Message-ID: <mailman.3349.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Marsh Ray <marsh at extendedsubset.com> wrote:
> On 03/25/2012 11:45 AM, Benjamin Kreuter wrote:
>> The US government still wants a

No, probably parts of it: the ones that don't have to think of the big
picture.  The U.S. government is not monolythic.  The NSA has shown a
number of times that they are interested in strong civilian
cryptography for reasons of... national security.  In a battle between
law enforcement and national security the latter has to win.

>> system where encrypted communications can be arbitrarily decrypted,
>> they just dress up the argument and avoid using dirty words like "key
>> escrow."
>
> Aside from the deep moral and constitutional problems it poses, does anyone
> think the US Govt could have that even from a practical perspective?
>
> * Some of the largest supercomputers in the world are botnets or are held by
> strategic competitor countries. This precludes the old key shortening trick.
>
> * The Sony PS3 and HDMI cases show just how hard it can be to keep a master
> key secure sometimes. Master keys could be quite well protected, but from a
> policy perspective it's still a gamble that something won't go wrong which
> compromises everyone's real security (cause a public scandal, expose
> industrial secrets, etc.).

Key escrow == gigantic SPOF.  Even if you split the escrow across
several agencies and don't use a single master key, it's still
concentrating systemic failure potential into too few points.  To
build a single point of catastrophic failure into one's economic
infrastructure is one of the biggest strategic blunders I can imagine
(obviously there's worse, such as simply surrendering when one clearly
has the upper hand, say).  Back in the early 90s this probably wasn't
as clear as it is today.

> * Am I correct in thinking that computing additional trapdoor functions to
> enable USG/TLA/LEA decryption is not free? Mobile devices are becoming the
> primary computing devices for many. People may be willing to pay XX% in
> taxes, but nobody wants to pay a decrease in performance and battery life to
> enable such a misfeature.

Most users already pay heavy battery/performance taxes in the form of
uninstallable adware built into their devices.  The vendors might be
the ones to object then since they might have to stop shipping such
software.  But ultimately this argument depends on how heavy a burden
the users end up feeling.

For my money the winning argument is the strategic idiocy/insanity of
unnecessary SPOFs.  Who wants to ever even think of saying to the
POTUS "Mr. President, we have a mole, they've stolen the codes for our
civilian networks and they've shut them down from the people's shear
fear of financial and other losses. It will take months to re-key
everything and in the meantime we'll lose X% of GDP. The stock and
bond markets have crashed."  As time passes X will tend to increase in
the event of such a catastrophe.  The higher that percentage the more
crippling the attack, with derivatives losses becoming overwhelming at
small values of X.  It could get worse: "Mr. President, we can't even
re-key without changing all these hardware dongles that are
manufactured by the enemy, who's now not selling them to us."

If the point of key escrow is to make law enforcement easier then
there are much simpler non-cryptographic solutions -- not ones to your
taste or mine perhaps, but certainly ones that don't involve strategic
SPOFs.

I'm with you: key escrow is necessarily dead letter, at least for the
time being and the foreseeable future.

Nico
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Subject: [Pigdog] Forbes on Bitcoin - praise for its financial innovation
Message-ID: <mailman.3350.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Not what I would expect from Forbes.

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/03/24/bitcoin-doesnt-need-a-dongle/

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"Cyber",


On Tuesday, March 20, 2012, Eugen Leitl wrote:

> (the Sun emulates the Onion)
>
>
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4205896/Terrorists-play-online-games-like-Call-of-Duty-to-plan-attacks.html
>
> Game fanatics
>
> Terrorists plan attacks in net chats
>
> Kids' fave keeps their plots secret Deadly ... terrorists are turning to
> online war games to plot attacks without being monitored
>
> Exclusive
>
> By DAVID WILLETTS and TOM WELLS
>
> Last Updated: 20th March 2012
>
> TERRORISTS are using online war games like Call of Duty to plot attacks,
> The
> Sun can reveal.
>
> Islamic extremists know cops monitor phone calls, emails and online
> messages.
>
> So they are turning to PlayStation and Xbox games to keep their deadly
> plans
> secret.
>
> Gamers can log on in groups to play against each other and b  crucially b
>  to
> chat in private.
>
> Once signed in to a "lobby" using a password, plotters put on Bluetooth
> headsets and speak securely to conspirators on the same site.
>
> Other shoot-'em-up games suspected of being targeted by terrorists are
> thought to be Medal of Honour and the Halo series.
>
> Realistic ... war games
>
> Alamy
>
> Last night, a source said: "It's a terrifying reality. These people waste
> no
> time finding a secure method of chatting.
>
> "They are logging into group games over the internet and discussing terror
> plots. Security people know about it.
>
> "For millions who love these games this will be a huge shock.
>
> "To think fanatics use them for their own ends is a real worry." Sources
> say
> plotters choose realistic conflict games so they can mask their deadly
> discussions as harmless web chat.
>
> Call Of Duty
>
> Online craze ... 40 million people play Call Of Duty on the net
>
> There has even been evidence would-be jihadists treat war games as training
> tools, a bit like a pilot might use a flight simulator.
>
> News of the growing threat comes five years after the CIA first warned of
> the
> menace.
>
> But with the soaring popularity of the games, there are now fears they are
> being used by increasing numbers of criminals and terrorists.
>
> Last night government sources said police and spy chiefs were already
> responding to the threat.
>
> A security expert revealed: "Those who fight crime and terrorism keep up to
> date with technological changes."
>
> Call Of Duty MW3
>
> Best-seller ... Call Of Duty MW3 made B#250m in 24 hours
>
> The terrorists choose incredibly realistic "first person games" where the
> controller works through a complex simulation of war scenarios, carrying
> out
> missions and battling enemy fighters.
>
> Gamers choose different styles of play and missions b  from planting bombs
> to
> fighting one-on-one.
>
> Then they enter the lobby and invite their friends to join in.
>
> Call of Duty addicts can even join "clans" b  groups who regularly play
> together.
>
> The games use a password-protected log-on to keep users' identities secret.
> The system was designed so players anywhere on the globe can get together
> for
> harmless fantasy battles.
>
> But security chiefs now fear plotters are set to turn those fantasies into
> reality.
>
> d.willetts at the-sun.co.uk <javascript:;>




From eugen at leitl.org  Mon Mar 26 02:16:09 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:16:09 +0200
Subject: [cryptography] Key escrow 2012
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From eugen at leitl.org  Mon Mar 26 02:17:56 2012
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:17:56 +0200
Subject: [cryptography] Key escrow 2012
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From: drwho at virtadpt.net (The Doctor)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:34:50 -0400
Subject: [liberationtech] Drones are not storytellers or why Syrians
	need better storytelling was Re: Pirate Bay turns to drones
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On 03/23/2012 01:51 PM, Isaac Wilder wrote:

> At 30km up, not much good for recon, but definitely able to
> support communications. LOS to a 400+ km radius. Oil companies and
> the Air Force have been deploying this stuff for years.

So have ham radio operators, and in the past few years hackerspaces
have gotten into the act as well.  APRS traffic from the HacDC
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╥         Стили руководства. 
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╥         Основные функции менеджмента.
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╥         Пирамида навыков менеджера. Что нужно знать для оперативного управления.
╥         Понятие, основные виды и методы планирования. Планирование работы отдела (подразделения, фирмы).
╥         Взаимосвязь функций. Как расставлять приоритеты: иерархия ценностей и целей.
╥         За что платят менеджеру (зона ответственности).
3.     Постановка целей, планирование, координация и организация работы подчиненных:
╥         Целеполагание как основа любой деятельности. 
╥         Расстановка приоритетов в соответствии с поставленными целями.
╥         Роль менеджера в трансформации целей организации в индивидуальные цели подчиненных.
╥         Основы профессиональной деятельности управленца. Чем именно мы управляем. Что такое управление.
4.     Управление персоналом.
╥         Делегирование полномочий, ответственность и полномочия. Правила и принципы делегирования: кому, когда, как и зачем.
╥         Что можно и что нельзя делегировать.
╥         Организация повседневной деятельности сотрудников. Как поставить подчиненным задачу? Использование внешних и внутренних ресурсов. Правила, отчетность, стандарты и результаты.
╥         Организация и координация процесса работы отдела.
╥         Чего ждут от нас, и что ждем мы (подчиненные, коллеги и руководство).
╥         Лидер и менеджер √ в чем различие.
╥         Как не стать заложником подчиненных.
╥         На чьей стороне играем.
╥         Эффективные методы руководства и взаимодействия с подчиненными. Стили управления. Матрица ситуационного руководства.
5.     Организация исполнения.
╥         Пошаговая методика.
╥         Технологии постановки задач: инструктирование.
╥         Классификация задач сотрудников.
6.     Управленческое взаимодействие с подчиненными по вопросам, находящимся за рамками их сферы деятельности.
╥         Методы управления в подобных ситуациях.
╥         Способы определения и развития потенциала подчиненного.
7.     Практика управления.
╥         Как оперативно получить обратную связь?
╥         Выявление сбоев и их причин.
╥         Информирование подчиненных (информационные тромбы?)
╥         Возврат и корректировка планов.
╥         Регулирование: аварийное и системное.
╥         Контроль повседневной деятельности подчиненных.
╥         Координация деятельности подчиненных на основе показателей деятельности.
╥         Системная связь между планированием, контролем и мотивацией.
8.     Способы разрешения проблемных ситуаций с подчиненными.
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1.     Компетентность руководителя.
╥         Основные техники деловой коммуникации.
╥         Использование знаний о типологии личности в руководстве подчиненными.
╥         Стили руководства. 
╥         Методы экспресс-диагностики сотрудников.
2.     Функции менеджера в организации.
╥         Основные функции менеджмента.
╥         Цель распределения функций.
╥         Пирамида навыков менеджера. Что нужно знать для оперативного управления.
╥         Понятие, основные виды и методы планирования. Планирование работы отдела (подразделения, фирмы).
╥         Взаимосвязь функций. Как расставлять приоритеты: иерархия ценностей и целей.
╥         За что платят менеджеру (зона ответственности).
3.     Постановка целей, планирование, координация и организация работы подчиненных:
╥         Целеполагание как основа любой деятельности. 
╥         Расстановка приоритетов в соответствии с поставленными целями.
╥         Роль менеджера в трансформации целей организации в индивидуальные цели подчиненных.
╥         Основы профессиональной деятельности управленца. Чем именно мы управляем. Что такое управление.
4.     Управление персоналом.
╥         Делегирование полномочий, ответственность и полномочия. Правила и принципы делегирования: кому, когда, как и зачем.
╥         Что можно и что нельзя делегировать.
╥         Организация повседневной деятельности сотрудников. Как поставить подчиненным задачу? Использование внешних и внутренних ресурсов. Правила, отчетность, стандарты и результаты.
╥         Организация и координация процесса работы отдела.
╥         Чего ждут от нас, и что ждем мы (подчиненные, коллеги и руководство).
╥         Лидер и менеджер √ в чем различие.
╥         Как не стать заложником подчиненных.
╥         На чьей стороне играем.
╥         Эффективные методы руководства и взаимодействия с подчиненными. Стили управления. Матрица ситуационного руководства.
5.     Организация исполнения.
╥         Пошаговая методика.
╥         Технологии постановки задач: инструктирование.
╥         Классификация задач сотрудников.
6.     Управленческое взаимодействие с подчиненными по вопросам, находящимся за рамками их сферы деятельности.
╥         Методы управления в подобных ситуациях.
╥         Способы определения и развития потенциала подчиненного.
7.     Практика управления.
╥         Как оперативно получить обратную связь?
╥         Выявление сбоев и их причин.
╥         Информирование подчиненных (информационные тромбы?)
╥         Возврат и корректировка планов.
╥         Регулирование: аварийное и системное.
╥         Контроль повседневной деятельности подчиненных.
╥         Координация деятельности подчиненных на основе показателей деятельности.
╥         Системная связь между планированием, контролем и мотивацией.
8.     Способы разрешения проблемных ситуаций с подчиненными.
9.     Мотивация подчиненных: практические способы и методы. 
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  Раскрытие бенефициара в налоговых целях: Мировой опыт и практика. Страны G20 будут обмениваться информацией о налоговых нарушениях в автоматическом режиме и помогать друг другу в сборе налогов. Как скоро это коснется Россию?
  У кого вообще может быть информация о бенефициаре оффшора? Насколько реально такую информацию скрыть или не разгласить? Разглашается ли подобная информация госорганам и когда? У кого российские правоохранительные и фискальные органы информацию по оффшорам могут запросить? И какие страны обязаны России ответить?
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  13.20 - 15.20 Блок 3. Анализ основных налоговых схем на предмет их жизнеспособности в 2012-м году
  
  Основные принципы построения торговых схем в целях налогового планирования. Практика реализации агентских схем, решений с займами и роялти, вывод дивидендов, продажа актива.
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:13:57 +0200
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:26:59 +0200
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From jya at pipeline.com  Tue Mar 27 07:25:38 2012
From: jya at pipeline.com (John Young)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:25:38 -0400
Subject: [drone-list] Afghan Drone Savagery Report Released
Message-ID: <mailman.3352.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Centcom.mil released on 22 March 2012 a declassifed 2,100-page report
on drone slaughter of 23 Afghan non-combatants - men, women, children -
in February 2010, blamed on Creech AFB pilots over-enthusiasticly 
calling in Hellfires on a 3-vehicle civilian convoy.

Minutely detailed descriptions are provided of how drones are directed from
screeners at Centcom and pilots at Creech AFB using a battery of secure
communications devices: IRC chat, radio, video, satellites, VOIP, telephone,
not all of which are coordinated and supervised and thus lead to disaster.

Pilots of choppers which fired the Hellfire missiles claim drone operators
cannot be trusted due to lack of contact with real world conditions on
the ground and because mission controllers at Creech reward "Top Gun"
aggressiveness.

Caution of screeners at Centcom and in Afghanistan in this case were 
overridden by drone operators at Creech to authorize kinetic action
against the civilians. As one military interviewee said: from the safety
of Creech drone pilots were too avid for kills and used the Tom Cruise
Top Gun appellation to describe their "juvenile" behavior.

The whole report is worth reading and promulgating to counter the PR 
machinery promoting drones as safe-kill from afar. Interviews of the 
civilians writhing painfully in hospitals probably won't get much press.

Here are a couple of small excerpts:

http://cryptome.org/2012/03/creech-savagery.pdf (summary of the report)

http://cryptome.org/2012/03/creech-savagery2.pdf (hospital interview)


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From jya at pipeline.com  Tue Mar 27 07:49:28 2012
From: jya at pipeline.com (John Young)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:49:28 -0400
Subject: [drone-list] Afghan Drone Savagery Report Released - URL
Message-ID: <mailman.3353.1576008223.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

The full 2,100-page report released by Centcom on drone killing
of Afghan civilians due to pilot zealotry:

http://tinyurl.com/clfkdj6

The multi-part file is about 153MB total.

This is the Centcom FOIA website which can be difficult to
access at times.





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From moritz at torservers.net  Tue Mar 27 02:13:40 2012
From: moritz at torservers.net (Moritz Bartl)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:13:40 +0200
Subject: [liberationtech] Blogged: So,
	what about Cybercrime in Switzerland? A visit to KOBIK
Message-ID: <mailman.3354.1576008224.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

So, what about Cybercrime in Switzerland?

Swiss Cybercrime Coordination Unit (KOBIK)

Yesterday, I joined some people from Chaos Computer Club ZC<rich (CCCZH)
to visit the Cybercrime Coordination Unit (KOBIK) in Bern. The
background was a Freedom of Information Act based request by the CCCZH:
KOBIK provides a list of domain names that host child pornography. It is
seen as a voluntary DNS blacklist for ISPs (and all the large Swiss ISPs
apply this list). Naturally, groups like the CCCZH are worried given the
non-public and intransparent nature of this list, lack of independent
monitoring, and its possible implications for future expansion to other
areas. This is not a theoretical danger, given that a court ordered
Swiss ISPs to block swissjustice.net for bdefamatory statementsb.

$ dig @8.8.8.8 swissjustice.net any +short # google dns
"v=spf1 a mx ip4:72.34.40.81 ?all"
0 swissjustice.net.
ns1.mh.tc. accounts.elinuxservers.com. 2011102801 86400 7200 3600000 86400
ns1.mh.tc.
ns2.mh.tc.
72.34.40.86
$ dig @62.2.24.162 swissjustice.net any +short # cablecom.ch dns
$

KOBIK, the Cybercrime Unit, invited us to look at the list. The head of
the organization and his assistant gave a presentation on the background
of the unit and their main activities. We asked several questions, and
were repeatedly encouraged to write more questions or come for another
visit any time.

Down to Earth in Switzerland

The atmosphere was very friendly, and we felt welcome. In some way they
even wanted us to be there, to hear their side of the story. I have no
reason not to believe what they told us, and I did not sense any hidden
agenda. In contrast to other law enforcement agents I had contact with
in the past, they did not seem to be much depressed about external
influences or wrong decisions being made babove themb. In some way,
Switzerland seems to be successful in buying its freedom in some areas,
and, due to this independence and size, does not appear to be under the
same non-stop heat of lobbyism as I am used to in Germany.

Knowing about our background, they constantly tried to assure us that
they were against all sorts of botherb blocking activities, and that the
lists were provided more as a side project to providers who asked about
them, not because anyone would believe it is a particularly useful
measure against child pornography, but to bspare children and families
from accidentially stumbling across the contentb. At the same time, they
contact ISP and local law enforcement. They are well aware that DNS
level blocks are no defense mechanism at all, and argue against IP level
blocks for their coarse granularity and side effects (and any other
categories of blocking for that matter).

Cybercrimebs Just Images

I reckon itbs still not much different in other European countries, but
it still came as a surpise to us to experience that the whole
Switzerland Cybercrime Coordination Unit, the (quote) bcenter of
excellence for the public, authorities and Internet service providers
about legal, technical and criminological issues on Internet crimesb
plus bcontact for foreign cybercrime authoritiesb (my emphases), has
only 10 employees at a ~$1m budget. Maybe a somewhat special situation
in Switzerland and for historical reasons, it still almost completely
focusses on child pornography and display of violence (hard pornography
illegal in Switzerland). They will slowly expand into other directions
in the future, but specifically grew out of a working group around a
large child pornography case in the 90s, Operation Genesis. Also, they
themselves argue that most crimes involve the real world and are better
suited to be dealt with in the traditional departments.

Yes, Porn

How do they find the sites in the first place? They have three main
sources: a form where anyone can report suspicious websites
banonymouslyb (they do log IPs and donbt offer HTTPS!). Secondly,
INTERPOL seems to maintain a somewhat broader list, but KOBIK verifies
each site again for specific violations of Swiss law. They also seem to
conduct a limited number of own investigations. The head of department
didnbt go into detail about this area, not only because they cannot talk
too much about their operational strategies, but also because the whole
event was more focussed on blacklist creation, distribution and
verification. I donbt believe the budget allows for many investigations
after all. (a few numbers are at the end of this post)

Once the sites are added to the list, they are regularly checked again
to see if content has changed. It sounded like a low number of countries
and ISPs donbt cooperate well (but most do), and there isnbt much else
they can do in such cases. The situation is different with pictures that
directly involve Swiss citizens. In those cases they work together with
the traditional pedocrime unit and try to seize the server.

Independent monitoring

So far there is no external inspection. Some ISPs seem to verify the
content themselves before redirecting DNS (not all ISPs block all
hostnames), which according to the KOBIK lawyer is perfectly legal to do
in Switzerland. You get to see the website depicted in the screenshot,
which ISPs can either self-host or use one hosted by KOBIK. Alledgely,
IPs hitting the blocked sites are not stored/analyzed in any way, nor
does KOBIK operate any honeypots or have legal or technical access to
visitor information (no DPI/logging at ISPs). Most of the sites they
deal with, at least concerning the blocks, are public websites full of
advertisements and clearly not binsider exchangesb, and tend to move
quickly. The turnaround time for the full list is only a few days (until
most or all sites are either taken down or moved somewhere else), and
most sites and pictures pop up again under a different name.

Need some hash?

Another growing area for KOBIK is the maintenance of a database of b100%
illegal child pornographyb hashes for various commercial forensic tools
used by the different Kantons (states). Looking for (or at) evidence in
child pornography cases is arguably not a very delightful job, so
investigators more and more turn to automatic tools for that. KOBIK
stated that they are careful about only including definitive matches and
pick out only 100% clear-cut child pornography images for this.

Encryption and Tor

Given my background, I was naturally quite interested in their take on
Tor, and how often they come across encryption. While they are not
involved in the seizure or forensic analysis of machines very much, they
did say that bapparently most pedo criminals have their blood somewhere
elseb.

KOBIK uses Tor in their investigations.

Technical

Once ISPs subscribe to the service and sign some paperwork, they get
SFTP access to a daily updated and zipped textfiles of hostnames.

KOBIK seemed genuinely interested in extending the cooperation towards
research institutes, especially since they donbt have the manpower to
properly follow up on developing trends (what kind of ISPs and ASNs are
more involved than others in this business etc).

Conclusion

The current staff seems to have its heart at the right place. The list
serves a well-intentioned purpose and was not introduced by external
pressure, but as an internal idea, not alone to save the investigators
the trouble to have to justify that some websites might still be up
bdays after a report came in.b Still, changes in political climate can
come faster than KOBIK expects. Even if they can hold powers back for a
while, in the end either heads will roll or, more likely, some people
will want to keep their job. What if, some day rather sooner than later,
something like Cleanfeed UK repeats in Switzerland? Will KOBIK stand
against a court order? Not likely. And Torproject.org is already listed
in several bcivilizedb blocklists around the globe. This is real.

Some numbers

 * 5000-7000 reports coming in from the public p.a.
 * at the time of our visit, the blocklist contained 148 hostnames
 * the Interpol list was said to be a bit larger, but the same order of
magnitude
 * 10 employees (including head of department)
 * budget around CHF 1m ($USD 1.1m)
 * ~200 access providers exist in Switzerland, around 10% use the list
(large ISPs, cover 90% of the population)

http://www.hackerbus.eu/blog/2012/03/27/so-what-about-cybercrime-in-switzerland.html

-- 
Moritz Bartl
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From eugen at leitl.org  Tue Mar 27 02:49:38 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:49:38 +0200
Subject: [liberationtech] Blogged: So, what about Cybercrime in 
  Switzerland? A visit to KOBIK
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From zooko at zooko.com  Tue Mar 27 12:06:37 2012
From: zooko at zooko.com (Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:06:37 -0600
Subject: [tahoe-dev] erasure coding makes files more fragile, not less
Message-ID: <mailman.3355.1576008224.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Folks:

I've heard many stories of people losing their files from a Tahoe-LAFS
grid even though they had erasure coding parameters that provide
massive fault tolerance such as 3-of-10 or 4-of-8. In fact, I think
approximately 90% of all files that have ever been stored on a
Tahoe-LAFS grid have died. (That's excluding all of the files of all
of the customers of allmydata.com, which went out of business.)

I've been musing on this, and I just read this excellent blog rant by
the original author of VoldemortbJay Kreps. I came up with this
provocative slogan (I know Brian loves my provocative slogans):
"erasure coding makes files more fragile, not less".

The idea behind that is that erasure coding lulls people into a false
sense of security. If K=N=1, or even if K=1 and N=2 (which is the same
fault tolerance as RAID-1), then people understand that they need to
constantly monitor and repair problems as they arise. But if K=3 and
N=10, then the beautiful combinatorial math tells you that your file
has lots of "9's" of reliability. The beautiful combinatorial math
lies! That's because it is assuming each server has some fixed and
independent chance of surviving, which is always false. ("90%" is
always a good number to use for that fixed and independent chance.
Plug in "90%" into the beautiful combinatorial math with K=3 and N=10
and you'll get more "9's" than you can shake a stick at!)

Here's the excellent blog rant:

http://blog.empathybox.com/post/19574936361/getting-real-about-distributed-system-reliability

"""
Where is the flaw in the reasoning?
b&
The problem is the assumption that failures are independent.
b&
Surely no belief could possibly be more counter to our own experience
or just common sense than believing that there is no correlation
between failures of machines in a cluster.
b&
The actual reliability of your system depends largely on how bug free
it is, how good you are at monitoring it, and how well you have
protected against the myriad issues and problems it has. This isnbt
any different from traditional systems, except that the new software
is far less mature.
"""

Now let's apply this idea to my empirical observations about the
longevity of files stored in Tahoe-LAFS. If almost all of the files
that have ever been stored on Tahoe-LAFS have died, this implies one
of two things:

1. The "reliability" of the storage servers must have been below K/N.
I.e. if a file was stored with 3-of-10 encoding, but if each storage
server had a 75% chance of dying, then the file would be *more* likely
to die due to the erasure coding, rather than less likely to die,
because a 75% chance of dying, a.k.a. a 25% chance of staying alive,
is worse than the 30% number of shares required to recover the file.

or

2. The behavior of storage servers must not have been *independent*.
I.e. if enough of the servers failed *at once*, then the file died,
even if the chance of any individual server failing was lower than the
erasure coding ratio.

My conclusion: if you care about the longevity of your files, forget
about erasure coding and concentrate on monitoring. (Go ahead and use
3-of-10 because everyone does, and it adds a reasonably low level of
storage overhead.)

Not coincidentally, Least Authority Enterprises (our startup company)
has been spending most of our engineering effort on monitoring,
measurements, and fault detection for the last couple of months. Our
service is still not functional enough to advertise it as non-alpha.
This monitoring and operations engineering is a lot of work!

Regards,

Zooko

P.S. But if you want to help us alpha-test our service, by all means
let us know! :-)
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From jar.mailbox at gmail.com  Tue Mar 27 21:57:09 2012
From: jar.mailbox at gmail.com (J. Andrew Rogers)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:57:09 -0700
Subject: [tt] [ExI] The NSA's new data center
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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:56 PM, David Lubkin <lubkin at unreasonable.com> wrote:
>>It turns out that the algorithm families related to deep relationship
>>analysis -- the kind of algorithms you use to invade privacy -- are
>>very much in the former category. They only parallelize well under
>>topological constraints so narrow that even having a giant data center
>>is insufficient; you would need to deploy the data models on the
>>cluster in carefully designed logical topologies in addition to a
>>carefully designed physical topology.
>>
>>In this case, "winning" is biased toward whoever has both the biggest
>>data centers and the best theoretical computer scientists.
>
> Why do you see this as a sustainable advantage?
>
> That is, won't we reach a point where the capabilities of this NSA
> center are within the price range of reasonably sized coalitions of
> private individuals? Yes, by then the government agencies would
> have even more, but would it make a difference as a practical
> matter?


(I am not on Exi-Chat so posting here)

It matters a great deal. The goal of building these models is deep
behavioral modeling and prediction. With sufficiently good models, you
can start steering outcomes of human behavior below the level of
discernible manipulation on a mass scale. First across the line that
feels like wielding that power wins. We are further down this path
than most people imagine (though not so far that the specifics are
foregone conclusions). It is a mathematics and computer science
problem.

This is very similar to "first to AI" games and the people that work
on it are cognizant of this aspect. If you are far enough ahead, you
can effectively manipulate the efforts of people chasing you.


> There's only so much useful data about people and their interrelations.
> It seems to me we move (big and central can analyze in ways
> others can't) => (big and central can analyze it faster) => (being big
> and central ceases to have an advantage).


Most people can't imagine how detailed a model of their behavior can
be constructed *today* from their data exhaust, nor the quantity of
data exhaust currently collected, without even scratching the surface
of what is theoretically possible. The best analogy I can think of is
compressive sampling/sensing. There is vast amounts of useful data
about individual behavior and it is almost unexploited compared to
what we know is possible theoretically with the right algorithms and
systems.

The reason no serious discussion can be had about privacy is that most
people do not grok the capabilities of the technology they face.
Ironically, it is in many ways more powerful and a lot more invisible
than anything Hollywood has portrayed. There is already quite a bit of
well-known art around camouflaging this type of manipulation that is
already deployed every day -- it is why few people notice.

It is a "first across the line" race. The first organization to gain a
material advantage and exploit it can only be caught if they allow
themselves to be caught. Many organizations are looking for that
advantage but the race favors those with very sharp minds and deep
pockets.

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From eugen at leitl.org  Tue Mar 27 13:38:42 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:38:42 +0200
Subject: [tahoe-dev] erasure coding makes files more fragile, not less
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From shawn at willden.org  Wed Mar 28 06:00:56 2012
From: shawn at willden.org (Shawn Willden)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:00:56 -0400
Subject: [tahoe-dev] erasure coding makes files more fragile, not less
Message-ID: <mailman.3357.1576008224.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Although your provocative statement tries so hard to be provocative it
fails to be true, there's clearly a kernel of truth there -- and there's no
argument at all that Tahoe needs better monitoring and more transparency.

The arguments make are the basis for the approach I (successfully) pushed
when we started the VG2 grid:  We demand high uptime from individual
servers because the math of erasure coding works against you when the
individual nodes are unreliable, and we ban co-located servers and prefer
to minimize the number of servers owned and administered by a single person
in order to ensure greater independence.

How has that worked out?  Well, it's definitely constrained the growth rate
of the grid.  We're two years in and still haven't reached 20 nodes.  And
although our nodes have relatively high reliability, I'm not sure we've
actually reached the 95% uptime target -- my node, for example, was down
for over a month while I moved, and we recently had a couple of outages
caused by security breaches.

However, we do now have 15 solid, high-capacity, relatively available (90%,
at least) nodes that are widely dispersed geographically (one in Russia,
six in four countries in Europe, seven in six states in the US; not sure
about the other).  So it's pretty good -- though we do need more nodes.

I can see two things that would make it an order of magnitude better:
 monitoring and dynamic adjustment of erasure-coding parameters.

Monitoring is needed both to identify cases where file repairs need to be
done before they become problematic and to provide the node reliability
data required to dynamically determine erasure coding parameters.

Dynamic calculation of erasure coding parameters is necessary both to
improve transparency and to provide more reliability.  The simple 3-of-7
(shares.total is meaningless; shares.happy is what matters) default
parameters do not automatically provide high reliability, even if server
failure is independent (and the direct relationship between individual
server reliability and K/N is meaningless; it's more complicated than that).

The only way erasure coding parameters can be appropriately selected is by
doing some calculations based on knowledge of the size of the available
storage nodes and their individual reliabilities.  Since these factors
change over time, therefore, the only way to know what the parameters
should be at the moment of upload is calculate them dynamically.
 Specifically, N/H should be set to the number of storage nodes currently
accepting shares and K should be computed to meet a user-specified per-file
reliability probability over a user-specified timeframe (the repair
interval).

Not only would this approach make it easier for users to specify their
reliability goals (at the expense of less-predictable expansion), it would
also make Tahoe inherently more robust, particularly if it actually
observed and measured individual node reliabilities over time, with
conservative initial assumptions.  It would likely reduce failure-to-upload
errors, because rather than just giving up when there aren't "enough"
storage nodes available, it would just increase redundancy.  At the same
time, it would be able to properly fail uploads when it is simply
impossible to meet the desired reliability goals.

It would also simplify repair and monitoring, at least from a conceptual
perspective.  The goal of a "reliability monitor" would be to check to see
if, under current estimates of reliability of the nodes holding a file's
shares, if that file's estimated reliability meets the stated user
requirement (assuming independence of node failures -- interdependence
actually could also be easily factored into the calculations, but
configuration would be a bear and it would require lots of ad-hoc estimates
of hard-to-measure probabilities).  It wouldn't even be difficult to
include path-based considerations in reliability estimates.

The biggest downside of this approach, I think, would be that it would
still be hard to understand how the specified reliability relates to the *
actual* file reliability, because it would be neither an upper bound nor a
lower bound but an estimate with unknown deviation.

-- 
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      Типы торговых комплексов.
      Оптимальное использование торгового потенциала ТЦ и ТРК.
      Основы эффектного подбора и размещения арендаторов.
      Новые идеи в оборудовании крупных торговых предприятий.
      Формирование системы дополнительных услуг для посетителей.
      Маркетинг и рекламная стратегия ТК. Создание привлекательного имиджа ТК.
      Проекционные технологии в торговле. Звуковое и световое оборудование для ТЦ.
      Управление ТК.
      Управление персоналом ТК.
      Концепция безопасности крупного торгового предприятия. 
      Примеры успешной работы торгово-развлекательных и торговых комплексов Санкт-Петербурга.
       
   
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From dragonwisard at gmail.com  Wed Mar 28 09:16:37 2012
From: dragonwisard at gmail.com (Ben Mendis)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:16:37 -0400
Subject: [HacDC:Byzantium] Re: Development sprint coming up this weekend.
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Yes, the sprint will be at HacDC in the software/class room. We usually
spread it over two days. Friday night we start around 7p and have some
discussions on specifically what we want to accomplish and how we will
allocate time on Saturday, and then work a little bit or just make sure
everything is setup for Saturday. Also, if we have enough people there by
8p we usually have free pizza.

Then on Saturday we get started at noon and work late with a break or two
in the middle to keep everyone fresh and focused. In the past we have tried
to set the start time at 10am, but some of us have found it difficult to
wake up that early on a Saturday. ;-)

You're welcome to come for either or both days.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:42 AM, buzz <bkobb at ieee.org> wrote:

> What day/time will the sprint be -
>
> I assume it is at hacdc?
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From warner at lothar.com  Wed Mar 28 13:54:19 2012
From: warner at lothar.com (Brian Warner)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:54:19 -0700
Subject: [tahoe-dev] erasure coding makes files more fragile, not less
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On 3/27/12 12:06 PM, Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn wrote:

> In fact, I think approximately 90% of all files that have ever been
> stored on a Tahoe-LAFS grid have died. (That's excluding all of the
> files of all of the customers of allmydata.com, which went out of
> business.)

That.. is a pretty broad and potentially disingenuous statement, and
feels unsupported. I think I know what you mean, but it's a bit like
saying "everybody dies" or "all programs crash eventually": maybe true,
but kinda useless, and kinda deceptive, or at least distracting.

[BTW folks: Zooko and I talk about this stuff all the time, and we know
each other's opinions pretty well, so please don't misinterpret my words
as indicating anger or annoyance. We're old pals, and this is a
well-worn comfortable argument.]

The metric that I'd find useful is what percentage of files *that people
actively tried to keep around* were lost. Tahoe is a system for
multiplying the durability of your servers, but it's not magic, and if
you start with lousy unmaintained servers, then you aren't likely to
have good results.

> I came up with this provocative slogan (I know Brian loves my
> provocative slogans): "erasure coding makes files more fragile, not
> less".

Ah, you do know how to provoke me :). That's like saying "seat belts,
airbags, and helmets kill people", invoking haunting images of demonic
safety gear stalking the last remaining humans through the forest,
seatbelts to snare, airbags to suffocate, and helmets to keep watch for
the desperate counterattack. Sometimes (I'm reminded of your alien
toaster example) you imply things like "we should outlaw seatbelts, and
mandate that car seats must be attached to the front bumper, so people
feel scared enough to drive slower", which, although it might reduce the
rate of car crashes, is not a workable solution.

And what I think you should mean instead is "seat belts certainly save
lives, but we should pay attention to whether people might be tempted to
drive faster because of the feeling-of-safety they provide, and think
about how to mitigate that".

> The idea behind that is that erasure coding lulls people into a false
> sense of security.

That's the important part (if it's even true), and provocative
soundbites which omit it are delivering the wrong message.

> If K=N=1, or even if K=1 and N=2 (which is the same fault tolerance as
> RAID-1), then people understand that they need to constantly monitor
> and repair problems as they arise.

You know, I'm not sure that's actually true. I have a feeling that any
folks who lose data in a Tahoe grid (and I'm not accepting that claim
yet: I haven't personally heard many examples of loss, although you talk
to more users than I do) would be just as likely to lose data in a RAID
array, or in a single-disk server. I.e. to study this properly, I'd want
to separate the user population into "careful sysadmins" and "casual
end-users", and examine failure rates (and experiences) in the two camps
separately.

> But if K=3 and N=10, then the beautiful combinatorial math tells you
> that your file has lots of "9's" of reliability. The beautiful
> combinatorial math lies!

Hrm, we've had this argument before and I'm never sure where to go it.
Yes, the math in our provisioning/reliability tool describes a somewhat
unrealistic model with the usual because-it-makes-the-math-easier
assumptions (Poisson processes, independent identically-distributed
failures). Should we get rid of it? No, I think it still has value.
Should we add some warning stickers that say "human error and
non-independent failure modes will probably limit how close you can get
to these numbers"? Sure. If people ignore those stickers and believe the
fairy-tale math and drive too fast and crash and burn, should we throw
out the math? No, I think the tools are still useful to people who
understand the limits of the model.

> If almost all of the files that have ever been stored on Tahoe-LAFS
> have died, this implies one of two things:

(ugh, just the way you phrase that claim makes it sound like Tahoe is a
fundamentally flawed technology and any file that comes into contact
with it catches the plague and falls deathly ill. How about "any
potential file loss in Tahoe must come about because of one of the
following:" instead?)

> 1. The "reliability" of the storage servers must have been below K/N.
> I.e. if a file was stored with 3-of-10 encoding, but if each storage
> server had a 75% chance of dying, then the file would be *more* likely
> to die due to the erasure coding, rather than less likely to die,
> because a 75% chance of dying, a.k.a. a 25% chance of staying alive,
> is worse than the 30% number of shares required to recover the file.

Wait wait, the details are somewhat correct but the conclusion is wrong
and the premise is off-base. Yes, k>1 on servers with <50% reliability
is worse than k=1 on those same servers: bad servers are bad, relying
upon more of them is worse. 3-of-10 on bad servers is worse than
1-of-10. But 1-of-10 is way better than 1-of-2 or 1-of-1. And 3-of-10 is
better than 3-of-3. 3-of-10 on good=25% servers has an 80.7% chance of
failure, nearly the same as 1-of-1's 75% chance of failure. 2-of-10 on
good=25% gets you a 24.4% chance of failure, way better than 75%, and
1-of-10 is down to 5.6% failure[1]. So it's not
erasure-coding/replication that's causing the problem, it's the
combination of k>1 and horrifically bad servers.

I'd rewrite your conclusion to be that the reliability must have been
below 50%, not below k/N. I think we've always assumed that servers will
have better than 50% reliability (you'd never pay a hosting provider for
anything worse than that). Tahoe is a tool for making a great grid out
of good servers, not for making a good grid out of lousy servers. If
you're stuck with that, use 1-of-N and hope for the best.

(If our goal had been to support lots-of-lousy-servers, we'd probably
have built something else: implement replication and automatic repair
first, then get around to things like mutable files and a web interface.
The result would be inefficient on good servers.)

> 2. The behavior of storage servers must not have been *independent*.

Sure.

But let's add some other possibilities, some of which we can improve
with code, some of which depend upon sysadmins doing their jobs and grid
members honoring commitments to their clients:

3: people got bored, wandered away, took their servers with them
4: hosts got rebooted and servers didn't automatically come back up
5: failed servers weren't replaced
6: files weren't repaired

When there's no incentive to keep your server running (which could be as
simple as knowing that other people will know when it's been offline),
servers tend to go away, and using replication or FEC to mitigate that
is expensive (the old problem of not knowing whether the server is
coming back or not, therefore needing to treat it as permanent,
triggering immediate repair, and eventually the repair bandwidth is so
high that you can't use the grid for actual work).

We need better OS-integration code to make it easy to get a server to
come up on each reboot. On OS-X that means a LaunchAgent or something.
On Debian/etc it means an init.d or upstart job. (we have this problem
all the time with buildslaves: it's pretty easy to get one running by
hand, but the energy barrier between that and having a real every-reboot
service is high enough that a lot of folks don't bother).

I've been saying forever that it's too hard/slow/inconvenient to get
periodic repair to run automatically (cron jobs are soo gross, and
suffer from the same energy-barrier problem). And I've been planning
(and failing to complete) to move this functionality into the Tahoe
client for nearly as long (#643, #483). I really think that having
automatic repair of everything reachable from your rootcap(s) is
necessary to get close to the enticing durability promise that
erasure-coding provides.

> My conclusion: if you care about the longevity of your files, forget
> about erasure coding and concentrate on monitoring.

My conclusion: we can't make serious claims about the benefits/etc of
erasure coding until we've eliminated the confounders, by fixing known
problems that hurt reliability and then collecting actual data[2]. I
think that claiming "erasure coding makes files more fragile" is wrong.
Getting good reliability out of a Tahoe grid requires just as much
attention and effort as any other storage technology: it can't conjure
reliability out of nothing. But I still believe that, for the same
effort, you'll get much more durability out of Tahoe than out of simple
replication/RAID (when Tahoe has the same level of automation as those
other tools, which it doesn't yet).

And I agree that building monitoring tools, and especially the automatic
repair agent, is just as important as Zooko says. Note that monitoring
by itself isn't enough: you need to take action when it's required,
either on the small scale (repair) or on the large (replacing servers).
But good tools to tell you when action is needed is the first step.


yay provocation! :-)

cheers,
 -Brian



[1]: 3-of-10 on p=25%, chance of failure is the sum of three cases:
      Num(good servers)=0: 25%^10  = 5.6%
      Num(good servers)=1: 10*25%^1*75%^9  = 18.8%
      Num(good servers)=2: 10*9*25%^2*75%^8  = 56.3%
     2-of-10 on p=25%: sum of the first two terms (Num=0,Num=1)

[2]: this was in the plans for the "repair agent" at Allmydata before it
     shut down: that would have been a good place to collect long-term
     statistics on drive failure, share loss, repair bandwidth, and file
     decay curves. The idea was to collect that data for a year or two,
     including failures due to motherboards breaking and upgrades going
     wrong, and then use it to justify a more deliberate choice of k and
     N (minimizing cost while still meeting the reliability goals). This
     project lost a lot of momentum when we lost the centralized place
     to do that research, and the paycheck to build the supporting
     tools.
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From gfoster at entersection.org  Wed Mar 28 13:24:39 2012
From: gfoster at entersection.org (Gregory Foster)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:24:39 -0500
Subject: [liberationtech] "Free the Network"
Message-ID: <mailman.3360.1576008224.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Pleased to see the Free Network Foundation  
<http://freenetworkfoundation.org/> in the news.

Motherboard (Mar 28) - "Free the Network" by @TheBAnderson  
<http://twitter.com/TheBAnderson> and @ErinLeeCarr  
<http://twitter.com/ErinLeeCarr>; 30 minute film :)
http://motherboard.vice.com/2012/3/28/motherboard-tv-free-the-network

It looks like the film is garnering significant coverage in outlets such  
as Time  
<http://techland.time.com/2012/03/28/occupy-the-internet-protests-give-rise-to-diy-networks/>, 
CNN  
<http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/28/tech/web/vice-free-the-network/index.html>,  
Gizmodo  
<http://gizmodo.com/5897109/occupy-wall-street-and-the-war-to-free-all-internet>.

More power to you, Isaac & friends.
gf

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From: lee at royalgardens.us (Lee @ Royal Gardens)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:58:12 -1000
Subject: HavenCo was USSS/USDOJ Research on Financial Laundering
Message-ID: <CAAacbUcbSg2tKQuzbD9OGgA0YJJdGZPvT-nzq8bQa24vKeCWRw@mail.gmail.com>

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From edrigram at edri.org  Wed Mar 28 10:39:04 2012
From: edrigram at edri.org (EDRI-gram newsletter)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:39:04 +0300
Subject: EDRi-gram newsletter - Number 10.6, 28 March 2012
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============================================================

     EDRi-gram

biweekly newsletter about digital civil rights in Europe

Number 10.6, 28 March 2012

============================================================
Contents
============================================================

1. EU-US PNR Agreement: A bad day for civil liberties in Europe
2. EU-US joint commitments on privacy and protection of personal data
3. France: Biometric ID database found unconstitutional
4. ICANN will cooperate in taking down websites for copyright infringements
5. CoE's Internet Governance strategy places emphasis on users' rights
6. New German court decision on traffic filtering
7. Italy: Problematic Internet blocking decision against fraudulent website
8. ENDitorial: European Parliament defends itself and democracy from ACTA
9. Recommended Action
10. Recommended Reading
11. Agenda
12. About

============================================================
1. EU-US PNR Agreement: A bad day for civil liberties in Europe
============================================================

On 27 March 2012, the Civil Liberties (LIBE) Committee of the European
Parliament decided to back the new air passenger data deal with the United
States. In her recommendation, the Dutch Liberal MEP Sophie in 't Veld
called on her colleagues to reject it. However, to her regret, the LIBE
Committee has endorsed the Agreement despite inadequate legal safeguards.

EDRi had repeatedly pointed out the serious flaws of the Agreement to the
Parliamentarians in the LIBE Committee. The new text does not only severely
undermine fundamental rights but also largely ignores the criteria set by
the European Parliament itself. In its resolutions of May and November
2010, Parliamentarians asked for a reduction of the retention period,
for "push" only as a method of transfer and for a clear prohibition of
profiling - none of these conditions have been met in the new Agreement.

The Commission has neither provided evidence that the collection, storage
and processing of personal data is proportionate at all, let alone why it
appears to believe that 15 years of data retention are necessary and
proportionate. Furthermore, the proposed Agreement does not provide for
sufficient protections and rights for citizens. According to the revised
Agreement, any individual is entitled to "request" their PNR data from the
US Department of Homeland Security (DHS). However, since the Agreement does
not address what citizens are entitled to receive an answer, the DHS can
decline this request. Moreover, the DHS has decided that its use of PNR data
is exempt from the Privacy Act even for U.S. citizens.

In the upcoming plenary vote MEPs now have to either defend fundamental
rights and European citizens' right to privacy and reject the Agreement - or
undermine the Parliament's own credibility and vote in favour of the deal.

EDRi comments on the US air passenger data deal (2012)
http://edri.org/files/2012EDRi_US_PNRcomments.pdf

Opinion of the European Data Protection Supervisor (9.12.2011)
http://www.edps.europa.eu/EDPSWEB/webdav/site/mySite/shared/Documents/Consultation/Opinions/2011/11-12-09_US_PNR_EN.pdf

Article 29 Data Protection Working Party letter to LIBE on PNR (6.01.2012)
http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/article-29/documentation/other-document/files/2012/20120106_letter_libe_pnr_en.pdf

(contribution by Kirsten Fiedler - EDRi)

============================================================
2. EU-US joint commitments on privacy and protection of personal data
============================================================

At the 28 November 2011 EU-US Summit, President Obama and Presidents Van
Rompuy and Barroso announced that the US and the EU are determined to
finalise negotiations on a comprehensive EU-US data privacy and protection
agreement. On 19 March 2012, a High Level Conference on Privacy and
Protection of Personal Data took place to discuss commercial data privacy
questions, held simultaneously in Washington and Brussels. The conference
was extremely well attended by high-level EU regulators and provided
valuable insights into the respective priorities. Before the Conference,
European Commission (EC) Vice-President Viviane Reding and U.S. Secretary of
Commerce John Bryson released an EU-US joint statement on data protection in
which they stated that this was a defining moment for global personal data
protection and privacy policy and for achieving further interoperability of
our systems on a high level of protection.

The conference wad organised in the context of the EC's legislative
proposals to reform and strengthen the fundamental right to data protection
and unify the EU's data protection laws and enforcement rules and President
Obama's privacy blueprint, including the Consumer Privacy Bill of Rights.
Stakeholders in the US are very interested in the ongoing data protection
reform in the European Union - notably in the proposal for a "one-stop-shop"
and a consistent regulatory level playing field across all EU Member States.

Viviane Reding, started by saying that today, in a digital economy, the
scare of sharing personal information has increased being a crucial factor
of economic growth, therefore the protection of citizens' right is
inevitable: trust in digital economy is possible only when a solid
protection is settled. That's why data protection is a strong policy
priority for the European Commission and the European Parliament, as well as
for all the 27 Member States. Notably she underlined three prominent
elements:

1. The principles of data protection are as valid today as in 1995 and EU
has to reaffirm the importance of this fundamental right

2. Technology innovations have made our DP rules a key factor for our
digital single market because, in order to flourish, our economy needs
trust: lack of trust indeed discourages citizens from buying online and
giving their personal information on line.

3. European and American companies expect that the new European data law
will provide a legal playing field, regardless of where the company operates
in the 27 members: the goal is to create only one rule for Europe - making
sure that the one stop shop for data protection regulation is for all EU
Member States; this is the only way EU will be a more attractive place to do
business.

US authorities have developed efforts to comply with safe harbours - but
more efforts are needed: a dialogue is needed to improve the safe harbour
agreement and to go even further; stronger interoperability standards are
needed as well to complete the puzzle to provide legal certainty to
businesses and citizens.

John Bryson, US Secretary of Commerce, who came in with a video message,
reported that President Obama had asked the Congress to enact legislation
but also to move ahead on a voluntary basis through codes of conduct,
underlying the importance of a collaborative approach. The other speakers in
the first panel also all broadly welcomed both the EU proposals and the
Obama White Paper.

However, Douwe Korff, representing EDRi, said that these exchanges of mutual
compliments were excessive: there were still major issues to be resolved. In
particular, in Europe, data protection is a fundamental right, accorded to
"everyone" (Charter of Fundamental Rights). The European civil society in
principle welcomed the proposed EU Regulation insofar as it sought to
achieve data protection at a high level, although quite a few issues still
needed improving or clarifying. By contrast, in the US privacy much less
protection is given under the Constitution: although the recent Jones
decision by the Supreme Court has shown progress, there were still important
limitation on the US Fourth Amendment guarantees; the "third party" doctrine
undermined principles that are seen as crucial in Europe, notably
purpose-limitation; and in important areas privacy protection was denied to
non-US citizens altogether.

Although the conference as such was limited to privacy in the commercial
context, the debate should also note the major issue of private-sector data
being used for law enforcement and national security purposes without
appropriate safeguards: that was the elephant in the room that no-one
mentioned. From a European perspective, it was essential that privacy in the
USA should be placed on a comprehensive statutory basis that met the
international standards, as enshrined in the only binding global data
protection instrument, Council of Europe Convention No. 108 (currently being
updated). The President's proposals for a Consumer Privacy Bill of Rights
would only result in an acceptable situation if that Bill would become a
binding law, meeting the new Convention standards.

In the second panel, Representative Ed Markey (D-MA)'s speech was revealing:
he presented a good update on the status of the COPPA (Children's Online
Privacy Protection Act) revisions and, as the long-standing co-chair of the
Congressional Privacy Caucus, provided a fascinating historical summary of
the various federal privacy initiatives of recent decades. He highlighted
that in the US people shared the same concerns and values as within EU,
in particular the fundamental principles of knowledge, notice and right to
say "No" to the use of their private info, but something gets lost in
translation from principle to practice. In his opinion, the DP Regulation
can assure a high level of protection and, therefore, is a good example to
follow: US Congress needs to act to protect privacy as a right. Notably, he
insisted on the need to protect 15 years old and younger from behavioural
targeting ads and to create, for this purpose, a safe harbour for children.
He commended Viviane Reding for the strong response to Google new privacy
policy and asked for investigation in the US of Google new privacy policy.

In the third panel, Peter Hustinx, the European Data Protection Supervisor,
had a slightly optimistic message for the US. In outlining his understanding
of the interoperability requirements highlighted in the Joint Statement, he
suggested that an adequacy finding could result from the implementation of
the White Paper, even if it did not result in a comprehensive law, as
adamantly requested by Francoise Le Bail, Director-General for Justice at
the European Commission. Mr. Hustinx emphasized the need for sufficiently
common principles and their binding implementation as far more important
than the specifics of the regulatory regime.

The fourth panel focussed on the enforcement of privacy (and other matters)
by the US Federal Trade Commission, and was thus linked to the fifth panel
which specifically discussed the Safe Harbor. FTC representatives strongly
emphasised their commitment to strong enforcement, and pointed to two recent
agreements with Google and Yahoo. However, David Smith, the UK Deputy
Information Commissioner with primary responsibility for data protection,
said that when he looked at the websites of a small random sample of
companies that said they complied with the Safe Harbor, he found that about
1/3 of them did not even appear to have a privacy statement, another 1/3 had
one but it did not meet the Safe Harbor standards, and the final 1/3 seemed
to have a privacy statement that more or less reflected the Safe Harbor
requirements. Douwe Korff intervened to say that was what he found too, and
said that in spite of the two recent cases (the effects of which still
needed to be seen), the Safe Harbor appeared to be largely a fig leaf behind
which US companies in practice continued to operate contrary to basic
privacy principles. Another intervener, Edward Hasbrouck, pointed out that
the FTC's remit was limited in some important respects, and for instance did
not cover transportation and, thus, airline passenger data.

EU Conference: Privacy and Protection of Personal Data (19.03.2012)
http://ec.europa.eu/justice/events/eu-us-data/index.html

Recorded webcast of the Conference (19.03.2012)
http://scic.ec.europa.eu/str/indexh264.php?sessionno=0cdf61037d7053ca59347ab230818335

Viviane Reading's speech: Towards a New "Gold Standard" in Data
Protection?(19.03.2012)
http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/reding/pdf/speeches/20120319speech-data-gold-standard_en.pdf

EU-U.S. joint statement on data protection by European Commission
Vice-President Viviane Reding and U.S. Secretary of Commerce John Bryson
(19.03.2012)
http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=MEMO/12/192

(Thanks to Douwe Korff - EDRi-member FIPR- UK)

============================================================
3. France: Biometric ID database found unconstitutional
============================================================

The French Constitutional Council found the law proposing the introduction
of a new biometric ID for French citizens as unconstitutional. The law was
referred to the Constitutional Council on 7 March 2012, by more than 200
members of the French Parliament, a day after the French National Assembly
passed the 10-article law under the pretext of combating "identity fraud".

According to the bill, more than 45 million individuals in France would have
their fingerprints and digitized faces stored in what would be the largest
biometric database in the country. The biometric ID card was to include a
compulsory chip containing personal information, such as fingerprints, a
photograph, home address, height, and eye colour. A second, optional chip
was to be implemented for online authentication and electronic signatures,
to be used for e-government services and e-commerce.

The opposing parliamentarians challenged the compatibility of the bill with
the citizens' fundamental rights including the right to privacy and the
presumption of innocence. In passing the bill, the National Assembly ignored
CNIL's (French Data Protection Authority) report of October
2011 that was criticizing the creation of the centralized biometric
database. It also entirely ignored the general opposition at the European
level. In 2011, EDRi and 80 other civil liberties organizations asked the
Council of Europe to study whether biometrics policies respect the
fundamental rights of every European.

Moreover, previous experiences in France with biometric passports (highly
criticised as well) have proven entirely unreliable with about 10% of the
issued passports having been fraudulently obtained. The bill does not take
into consideration either the position of the European Court of Human Rights
which in 2008 condemned UK for breaching the right to privacy after the
creation of a file including data on all people involved in a crime,
irrespective of their position (victim, witness, suspect or guilty).

On 22 March, the Constitutional Council found unconstitutional four articles
of this law, as well as part of other two articles. The council reminded
that "the collection, registration, preservation, consultation and
communication of personal data have to be justified by a general interest
reason and carried put properly and proportionally".

While the Council found no problem related to the general interest, it
clearly raised the issue of proportionality. "Regarding the nature of the
recorded data, the range of the treatment, the technical characteristics and
conditions of the consultation, the provisions of article 5 touch the
right to privacy in a way that cannot be considered as proportional to the
meant purpose".

The Council also had objections against the creation of the huge biometric
database considering the fact that the National Assembly had authorized the
use of the database by the police for extended purposes from the
identification of an accident victim to finding the authors of law
infringements or crimes.

The confusion in the bill text between an identity document and an
electronic payment means was also sanctioned by the Council. The idea was
that the ID could contain data allowing the owner to apply an electronic
signature in view of electronic transactions. The Council drew the attention
on the fact that the law did not specify the nature of the data and did not
provide any guarantee for the integrity and confidentiality of these data
and considered that the legislator has exceeded its competence in this
matter. In other words, that the government did not really know what they
were talking about.

The new electronic identity card judged as unconstitutional (only in French,
23.03.2012)
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2012/03/23/la-nouvelle-carte-d-identite-biometrique-jugee-inconstitutionnelle_1674721_3224.html

France: Constitutional Council censors the database created to fight the
identity theft (only in French, 23.03.2012)
http://www.rfi.fr/france/20120323-france-conseil-constitutionnel-censure-fichier-usurpation-identite

Decision n0 2012-652 DC on the Law regarding the identity protection (only
in French, 22.03.2012)
http://www.conseil-constitutionnel.fr/conseil-constitutionnel/francais/les-decisions/acces-par-date/decisions-depuis-1959/2012/2012-652-dc/decision-n-2012-652-dc-du-22-mars-2012.105165.html

"A Time Bomb For Civil Liberties": France Adopts a New Biometric ID Card
(8.03.2012)
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/03/french-national-assembly-proposes-new-alarming-biometrics-bill

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4. ICANN will cooperate in taking down websites for copyright infringements
============================================================

During its 43rd international meeting that took place in San Josi, Costa
Rica between 11 and 16 March 2012, ICANN (the Internet Corporation for
Assigned Names and Numbers) expressed its intention to increase its
cooperation with global law enforcement agencies and governments, to combat
copyright infringements.

There are 22 registries containing domain names registered in a top-level
domain and over 700 registrars accredited by ICANN. During an open session
with the Government Advisory Committee (GAC), the ICANN board confirmed its
intention to meet the expectations included by GAC in a document with 12
recommendations. "There has been some agreement on 11 of the 12
recommendations made by law enforcement authorities to the registrar
accreditation agreement; we will work to ensure agreement meets expectations
and give registrars the incentive to accept recommendations right away,"
said Kurt Pritz, ICANN senior vice president in charge of stakeholder
relations.

Thus ICANN, not only isn't taking position against abuses of the domain
system in order to preserve the basic structure and principles of the
Internet, but actually takes part in an increasing tendency of controlling
and censoring the Internet.

One of the12 recommendations was the inclusion of a clause in the
registrars' agreements that would hold them responsible (by negligence) for
registering domains engaging in criminal activities. Another one was for
registrars to keep detailed information of domain buyers, (including their
source IP addresses and transaction information), and to validate the
contact information given by them.

ICANN was also urged to review the compliance of the registrars with
enforcement agreements before renewing their contracts. And ICANN has shown
its willingness to meet the requirement: "Complaints on compliance started
coming in the last six to nine months, a team of 12 is now in place and will
improve the quality of service," said Rod Beckstrom, ICANN CEO and
president.

Furthermore, prior to its meeting, ICANN has even produced a "Thought Paper
on Domain Seizures and Takedowns" which is actually a guide for government
officials on how to seize, takedown and censor websites including sections
such as "guide for preparing domain name orders, seizures & takedowns" and
"checklist of information to submit with a legal or regulatory action."

The paper "offers guidance for anyone who prepares an order that seeks to
seize or take down domain names. Its purpose is to help preparers of legal
or regulatory actions understand what information top level domain name
(TLD) registration providers such as registries and registrars will need to
respond promptly and effectively to a legal or regulatory order or action.
The paper explains how information about a domain name is managed and by
whom," says ICANN about its own paper.

Domain seizures for copyright infringement likely to go global (14.03.2012)
http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=B2318066-9100-36AE-6DA668DCC8BE64C8

Thought Paper on Domain Seizures and Takedowns (8.03.2012)
http://blog.icann.org/2012/03/thought-paper-on-domain-seizures-and-takedowns/

Rather Than Speaking Out Against Domain Seizures, ICANN Provides A 'How To'
Manual (12.03.2012)
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120312/01013718069/rather-than-speaking-out-against-domain-seizures-icann-provides-how-to-manual.shtml

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5. CoE's Internet Governance strategy places emphasis on users' rights
============================================================

On 15 March 2012, the 47 Council of Europe (CoE) member states adopted
an Internet governance strategy to protect and promote human rights, the
rule of law and pluralistic democracy online.

The strategy, which covers 40 lines of action for the period 2012-2015,
refers to 6 major areas: Internet's openness, the rights of users, data
protection, cybercrime, democracy and culture, and children and young
people. It is meant to identify "challenges and corresponding responses to
enable state and non-state actors together to make the Internet a space
which is inclusive and people-centred" and has in view the international
legal framework, including the human rights law, which is "as a matter of
principle, equally applicable on-line as it is off-line."

The main action lines of the strategy include the maximisation of rights and
freedoms for internet users, developments in data protection and privacy,
the enhancing of the rule of law and an effective co-operation against
cybercrime, the maximisation of the Internet's potential to promote
democracy and cultural diversity and the protection and empowering of
children and youth.

The strategy has in view the development of soft law instruments such as
high-level "framework of understanding and/or commitments" to protect the
"Internet's universality, integrity and openness as a means of safeguarding
freedom of expression regardless of frontiers and Internet freedom,"
protection standards to ensure a free cross-border flow of legal online
content and human rights standards on network neutrality.

Preserving core values such as human rights, democracy and rule of law in
the online environment  is vital in the CoE's opinion as well as the
necessity for citizens to be properly informed in order to use Internet
services responsibly. The strategy has in view that the protection of
personal data and the respect for privacy on the Internet are indispensable.

Another direction considered in the strategy is an increased data collection
through the European Audiovisual Observatory and improved public services
through the Internet so as to better take advantage of the potential of the
Internet for democracy and cultural diversity.

The CoE Convention on data protection ("Convention 108") is also considered
the best available instrument to protect and promote data protection and
therefore, the strategy has in view its modernisation and the strengthening
of its implementation.

"The strategy's adoption is the validation by member states that the CoE's
core values - human rights, rule of law, democracy - for the Internet are a
priority. There is a realisation that the Internet is enabling and affecting
people in many ways, and that there is a need to embrace its influence. The
strategy provides orientation and promotes a holistic and sustainable
approach to the Internet, with people and their rights and freedoms at its
heart. In doing so, it champions multi-stakeholder dialogue as the way
forward for Internet policy making", said Lee Hibbard, Head of the
Information Society Unit in CoE.

Internet Governance - Council of Europe Strategy 2012-2015 (15.03.2012)
https://wcd.coe.int/ViewDoc.jsp?Ref=CM(2011)175&Language=lanEnglish&Ver=final&BackColorInternet=C3C3C3&BackColorIntranet=EDB021&BackColorLogged=F5D383

Council Of Europe Passes Internet Governance Strategy (15.03.2012)
http://www.ip-watch.org/2012/03/15/council-of-europe-passes-internet-governance-strategy/

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6. New German court decision on traffic filtering
============================================================

A Higher Regional Court in Hamburg ruled on 14 March 2012 that the
file-hosting site RapidShare had to proactively filter the files uploaded by
its users. A court's press release stated RapidShare was required to block
its users from uploading a list of 4 000 files allegedly infringing
copyrights.

The present ruling comes to confirm three separate previous rulings by a
lower court in cases brought by German booksellers, book publishers and a
music rights group. "The judgement confirms that Rapidshare must take
effective measures against the use of illegal content on its service," said
a German bookseller's association.

RapidShare's spokesman Daniel Raimer explained that the copyright holders
were leaving out essential details of the court ruling that were actually
quite positive for the site. "There is a possible reason for the rushed
approach, particularly that of the Booksellers Association. In the hearing,
the Higher Regional Court indicated that it would deviate from its former
position under which RapidShare's business model was not tolerated by the
legal system."

The German verdict appears to be in contradiction with a ruling by the
European Court of Justice (ECJ) which ruled in February 2012 in the case
Sabam vs. Netlog that hosting sites could not proactively filter copyrighted
content because that would violate the users' privacy and hinder freedom of
information.

ECJ decided that a national court is precluded from issuing an injunction
against a hosting service provider which requires it to install a filtering
system "capable of identifying electronic files containing musical,
cinematographic or audio-visual work in respect of which the applicant for
the injunction claims to hold intellectual property rights, with a view to
preventing those works from being made available to the public in breach of
copyright" with the purpose to filter information "which is stored on its
servers by its service users; which applies indiscriminately to all of the
users as a preventative measure; exclusively at its expense and for an
unlimited period"

RapidShare has not yet decided whether it would appeal the verdict and is
probably waiting for the written decision to be made public.

Court Orders RapidShare to Filter User Uploads (15.03.2012)
http://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-rapidshare-to-filter-user-uploads-120315/

Copyright Illegal Downloads: Higher Regional Court of Hamburg decides duties
for the online storage service "Rapidshare" (only in German, 15.03.2012)
http://justiz.hamburg.de/presseerklaerungen/3334434/pressemeldung-2012-03-15-olg.html

German court orders Rapidshare to filter user uploads (19.03.2012)
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/german-court-orders-rapidshare-to-filter-user-uploads.ars

ECJ - Judegement Sabam vs Netlog (16.02.2012)
http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=119512&pageIndex=0&doclang=EN&mode=req&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=158253

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7. Italy: Problematic Internet blocking decision against fraudulent website
============================================================

The Italian Antitrust Authority (AGCM) has started ordering the blocking
some websites involved in the online sale of fashion products, following
several complaints made by consumers.

It is the first blocking measure ordered by this Authority (enforced through
the collaboration with the antitrust department of the Guardia di Finanza),
which relied on the Consumer Code and e-commerce rules.

In its blocking order, the Authority does not charge the provider with
selling counterfeited products, but for the infringement of rules related to
warranties, delays and delivery conditions..

This decision has been adopted against the company called "Private Outlet,"
which is part of the e-commerce "private club," where members can join for
free and take advantage of special promotions of famous brands fashion
products with high discounts.

AGCM has intervened after several reports of fraudulent behaviour, because
Private Outlet allegedly "spread, through its website, content liable to
mislead consumers about the availability of the products offered for sale":
it has considered the elements collected enough to proceed a preliminary
investigation and to demand the company to suspend any activity.

In order to ensure the efficiency of the measure and ostensibly to offer
better protection for consumers, the Authority ordered the ISPs to
completely block all domains that refer to the Private Outlet network on the
whole Italian territory.

Granted that consumers protection is necessary and that the complaints are
may well be valid, it seems that this kind of measure actually goes far
further beyond what the Italian rules actually mandate.

Firstly, because these rules allow the Authority only to "demand the
provider to prevent or put an end to the committed infringements", secondly,
because the jurisdiction to issue provisional orders against third parties
has always been exercised by the ordinary courts and, finally, because AGCM
has provided these orders without the participation in proceedings of the
subjects required to bear the measures and offer a defence.

We are talking about the exercise of an interlocutory power (which has all
the characteristics of a criminal seizure) that, apparently, the Competition
Authority believes itself to be mandated to exercise: this is contrary to
what has been stated in some decisions of the Court, that have always
attributed this power to the ordinary judicial body.

Moreover, blocking of IP address may not be sufficient to avoid the
perpetuation of fraud (the provider could, for instance, change the address
or even change its name): is it possible that the Authority cannot imagine
more effective and less controversial measures? Measures which restrict
fundamental rights that are not necessary and proportionate and that do not
genuinely meet objectives of general interest are in beach of the European
Convention on Human Rights.

Text of the provision - page. 89 (only in Italian, 12.03.2012)
http://www.agcm.it/bollettino-settimanale/5906-bollettino-82012.html

Vajont.com case (libel slander) - Court's decision declares unlawful the
blocking (only in Italian, 14.03.2012)
http://www.fulviosarzana.it/blog/liberta-di-stampa-e-di-espressione-il-tribunale-della-liberta-di-belluno-presieduto-dal-presidente-del-tribunale-dichiara-illegittimo-il-sequestro-preventivo-del-sito-vajont-info-e-il-blocco-all/
and
http://www.fulviosarzana.it/blog/esclusiva-lordine-di-revoca-integrale-del-blocco-al-portale-vajont-info-il-pubblico-ministero-lo-estende-a-tutti-i-provider-e-a-tutti-gli-utenti-italiani/;

Moncler Case (counterfeiting) - Court's decision rescinds the blocking (only
in Italian, 4.11.2011)
http://brunosaetta.it/diritto/moncler-non-basta-la-parola.html

(Contribution by Elena Cantello - EDRi intern)

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8. ENDitorial: European Parliament defends itself and democracy from ACTA
============================================================

The decision of this week of the European Parliament not to refer ACTA to
the European Court of Justice was a decision which has ramifications far
beyond the ACTA dossier itself. It is one which will have long-term effects
on the institutional standing of the European Parliament.

The functioning of the EU decision-making process relies on a broadly equal
balance between the three main institutions - the Commission, the Parliament
and the Council (Member States). The European Parliament is the only
directly elected institution. It is therefore particularly important that it
is robust and independent. The less powerful the Parliament is in this
institutional triangle, the less direct influence that citizens can bring to
bear in the preparation of legislation that affects every one of them.

In controversial dossiers, the European Commission and/or the Member States
have often sought to overrule the position (or expected position) of the
European Parliament, exploiting personal or institutional weak points,
pushing the Parliament's democratic scrutiny of the dossier in question to
one side. Instead of judging a proposal on its merits, career ambitions of
individual MEPs or domestic political concerns are the primary factors that
decide the position of the Parliament.

This is what happened with the Data Retention Directive, where the UK
Presidency of the Council essentially bullied the Parliament into
submission. On the basis of the Parliament's scrutiny of the Directive, it
would have been rejected. However, by a mixture of pressure from the UK
Presidency on the Parliament as a whole and the German government on German
MEPs, the Directive was approved. The fact that the Parliament could be
persuaded to abandon its position on a policy on the basis of bullying and
domestic political pressures inflicted damage on the institution that is
still visible today.

In the past few months, the ACTA dossier has become very similar. As the
likelihood of a rejection of the proposed Agreement by the Parliament grew,
the European Commission, with support from Parliamentarians motivated by
other priorities than the defence of the prerogatives of the only
democratically elected EU institution, has sought to use every possible
machination to prevent the Parliament from taking its vote.

The first such tactic was the referral of the dossier to the European Court
of Justice. If this measure was really based on genuine concerns about
ACTA's legality, it would have been done far earlier - and certainly before
the dossier had been handed over to the European Parliament. From that point
on, the question was (and still remains) whether the European Parliament is
strong enough as an institution to defend itself from having its
decision-making process visibly and publicly undermined in this way.

The pro-ACTA lobby in the Parliament has used the Commission's plan for a
Court referral as a basis to undermine the Parliament's decision-making.
Every possible argument and strategy that could be used to prevent
a vote is therefore being brought to bear inside the Parliament to support
the Commission's attempt to circumvent the Parliament's role in the
decision-making process.

The same lobby is even seeking to persuade the Parliament that
it does not have the political right, even if it has the legal right, to
reject the Agreement after years of (untransparent) negotiation. This is why
they argue that rejection would "irrevocably affect Europe's credibility as
a trusted global trade partner". The argument to the Parliament is therefore
"do not use your legal rights. Do not seek to bring democracy into this
process, it will make the EU look bad."

More surprisingly, elements within the Parliament are seeking to undermine
the Parliament. For example, elements of the Parliament's legal service are
arguing that the Parliament's rules of procedure can be understood to say
things they don't say. The ostensibly neutral and non-political lawyers
argue that the Rule of Procedure, which say that the Parliament should
suspend its work if the Parliament itself refers a decision to the Court,
argue that - presumably on the basis that the drafters of the Parliament's
rule were incompetent - the rules meant to say that deliberations should be
suspended if any institution refers a proposal to the Court.

With help from the industry and Commission lobbies, the anti-Parliament
elements in the Parliament generated a whole queue of implausible delaying
tactics on the production line.

Do the rules of procedure of the Parliament say what they do not say? Maybe
the Parliament should delay a vote for over a year to be on the safe side.
Or perhaps this question should be referred to the Constitutional Affairs
Committee to spend a few months reflecting on - with the Parliament
suspending its work in the meantime.

Perhaps the Parliament should produce an interim report, asking for
non-binding undertakings from the Commission and Member States about
implementation of ACTA, thereby wasting another few months.

It is a very positive sign that the European Parliament has decided to
resist the siren calls of the pro-ACTA lobby. It is a positive sign that the
Parliament is showing a new courage to stand up for its democratic role in
the decision-making process. However, there are still numerous possibilities
for delay and even a vote in favour of ACTA's disastrous provisions. The
courage shown this week gives grounds for cautious (and, above all,
non-complacent) optimism.

Full overview of the delay plans
http://edri.org/acta_revival

Industry lobbying on ACTA
http://www.edri.org/files/acta_misinformation.pdf

Mr Wieland sacrifices the Parliament's broader interests (27.03.2012)
http://acta.ffii.org/?p=1216

European Parliament Rejects Referral Of ACTA To EU High Court (27.03.2012)
http://www.ip-watch.org/2012/03/27/european-parliament-rejects-referral-of-acta-to-eu-high-court/

Cooperative efforts in ACTA Digital Chapter (2012)
http://www.edri.org/files/2012EDRiPapers/Article27.pdf

(Contribution by Joe McNamee - EDRi)

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9. Recommended Action
============================================================

28 March 2012: Events on the Document Freedom Day
http://documentfreedom.org/

============================================================
10. Recommended Reading
============================================================

EDRi Cooperative efforts in ACTA Digital Chapter (03.2012)
http://www.edri.org/files/2012EDRiPapers/Article27.pdf

ENISA: Study on data collection and storage in the EU
http://www.enisa.europa.eu/activities/identity-and-trust/library/deliverables/data-collectionEU

Commission gives up blocking VPN services, but still blocks ToR (26.03.2012)
http://www.daten-speicherung.de/index.php/eu-commission-gives-up-blocking-tor-and-vpn-services/

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11. Agenda
============================================================

29 March 2012, Reykjavmk, Iceland
Reykjavmk Digital Freedoms Conference
http://rdfc.is/

30 March - 1 April 2012, Berlin, Germany
Wikimedia Chapters Meeting 2012
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2012

13 April 2012, Biefeld, Germany
Big Brother Awards Germany
http://www.bigbrotherawards.de/

16-18 April 2012, Cambridge, UK
Cambridge 2012: Innovation and Impact - Openly Collaborating to Enhance
Education
OER12 and the OCW Consortium's Global Conference
http://conference.ocwconsortium.org/index.php/2012/uk

25 April 2012, Helsinki, Finland
Finnish Internet Forum
http://www.internetforum.fi/

26-28 April 2012, Belgrade, Serbia
SHARE 2 Conference
http://www.shareconference.net/en

2-4 May 2012, Berlin, Germany
Re:Publica 2012: ACTION!
http://re-publica.de/12/en

14-15 June 2012, Stockholm, Sweden
EuroDIG 2012
http://www.eurodig.org/

18-22 June 2012, Samos, Greece
Samos 2012 Summit on Open Data for Governance, Industry and Society
Academic Papers Submission Deadline: 29 April 2012
http://samos-summit.blogspot.com/

20-22 June 2012, Paris, France
2012 World Open Educational Resources Congress
http://www.unesco.org/webworld/en/oer

2-6 July 2012, Budapest, Hungary
Policies and Practices in Access to Digital Archives: Towards a New
Research and Policy Agenda
http://www.summer.ceu.hu/sites/default/files/course_files/Policies-and-Practices-flyer%202012_0.pdf

9-10 July 2012, Barcelona, Spain
8th International Conference on Internet Law & Politics: Challenges and
Opportunities of Online Entertainment
http://edcp.uoc.edu/symposia/idp2012/cfp/?lang=en

11-13 July 2012, Vigo, Spain
The 12th Privacy Enhancing Technologies Symposium
(PETS 2012)
http://petsymposium.org/2012/

12-14 September 2012, Louvain-la-Neuve, Belgium
Building Institutions for Sustainable Scientific, Cultural and genetic
Resources Commons.
http://biogov.uclouvain.be/iasc/index.php

7-10 October 2012, Amsterdam, Netherlands
2012 Amsterdam Privacy Confernece
http://www.ivir.nl/news/CallforPapersAPC2012.pdf

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From marsh at extendedsubset.com  Wed Mar 28 21:18:07 2012
From: marsh at extendedsubset.com (Marsh Ray)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:18:07 -0500
Subject: [cryptography] [OT] Reworked Version of Stuxnet Relative Duqu
	Found in Iran
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On 03/28/2012 10:39 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
>  From "Reworked Version of Stuxnet Relative Duqu Found in Iran,"
> http://www.securitynewsdaily.com/1642-stuxnet-duqu-iran.html:
>
>      Duqu's builders also changed its encryption algorithm and
>      rigged the malware loader to pose as a Microsoft driver.
>      (The old driver was signed with a stolen Microsoft certificate.)

I hadn't heard about a driver signed with a "stolen Microsoft certificate. 
I suspect it's imperfect reporting.

That article links to
http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/new-duqu-sample-found-wild
Which says: "Another difference is the old driver file was signed with a  
stolen certificateband this one is not."

> Is the stolen certificate related to Diginotar or some other incident?
> Microsoft claims Diginotar issued certificates are inert
> (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9219729/Microsoft_Stolen_SSL_certs_can_t_be_used_to_install_malware_via_Windows_Update).

Right. The legitimate Windows Update system application won't recognize  
certs from random CAs like DigiNotar. (Code signing PKI appears good  
enough for everyone except the vendors themselves.)

But it might be possible to silently pwn MSIE users who checked the box  
"Always trust ActiveX controls from microsoft.com" and the sky's the limit 
on how you might use something like that for social engineering.

> Perhaps "Stolen encryption key the source of compromised certificate
> problem, Symantec says,"
> http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/security/stolen-encryption-key-the-source-of-compromised-certificate-problem-symantec-says?

Anyone can sign up to get a code signing cert for basic driver signing,  
there is no test of purity of heart involved. Probably the only reason the 
bad guys used a stolen one is that it was easier to steal or buy a private 
key than to set up a temporary identity and pay a few hundred bucks for an 
official one.

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From noloader at gmail.com  Wed Mar 28 20:39:00 2012
From: noloader at gmail.com (Jeffrey Walton)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:39:00 -0400
Subject: [cryptography] [OT] Reworked Version of Stuxnet Relative Duqu Found
	in Iran
Message-ID: <mailman.3363.1576008224.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Hi Guys,

>From "Reworked Version of Stuxnet Relative Duqu Found in Iran,"
http://www.securitynewsdaily.com/1642-stuxnet-duqu-iran.html:

    Duqu's builders also changed its encryption algorithm and
    rigged the malware loader to pose as a Microsoft driver.
    (The old driver was signed with a stolen Microsoft certificate.)

Is the stolen certificate related to Diginotar or some other incident?
Microsoft claims Diginotar issued certificates are inert
(http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9219729/Microsoft_Stolen_SSL_certs_can_t_be_used_to_install_malware_via_Windows_Update).

Perhaps "Stolen encryption key the source of compromised certificate
problem, Symantec says,"
http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/security/stolen-encryption-key-the-source-of-compromised-certificate-problem-symantec-says?

Jeff
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From zooko at zooko.com  Wed Mar 28 22:59:22 2012
From: zooko at zooko.com (Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:59:22 -0600
Subject: [tahoe-dev] raise your hand if you have a patch for Tahoe-LAFS that
	needs tests
Message-ID: <mailman.3364.1576008224.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

Folks:

As I mentioned on:
https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/68#comment:88 , I've
heard of several patches for Tahoe-LAFS that are complete enough to be
useful but can't be committed to trunk because they don't have tests.
This includes the multi-introducer patch by Faruq that killyourtv is
talking about on that ticket. If I recall correctly Faruq wrote a
basic test of subscribing to multiple introducers 9, but we don't have
tests of other interesting cases, like what happens when one
introducer is connected and you subscribe to it and hear about a
server, and then that introducer goes offline and a different
introducer appears and you connect to it and hear a different (newer)
announcement about that server.

Anyway, I was wondering how many people know of patches that you would
like to see in Tahoe-LAFS trunk, and the reason it is not already
committed to trunk is that it doesn't have tests, and you're not sure
what sort of thing we expect in tests or how to write tests for
Twisted code, etc. You can find such patches by querying the trac for
the keyword 'test-needed': 2.

If that describes you, let me know when you would be available for a
tutorial session on IRC where we pick one such patch and walk through
the process of writing tests for it. Brian Warner and David-Sarah
Hopwood are two of the best engineers in the universe, and they are
both (not coincidentally) two of the best unit-test-writers in the
universe, so I would find a time when at least one and hopefully both
of them would be willing to help.

(I would definitely recommend hanging out with these folks on IRC for
a couple of hours and working on a real patch for a real project. You
could pay some famous person or company big bucks for software
engineering training and not improve your skills as much.)

This coming weekend, when Andrew Miller and Zancas and I will be
hacking in person in Boulder, might be a good time to get on IRC and
help us write unit tests.

Regards,

Zooko

9 https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/browser/ticket68-multi-introducer/src/allmydata/test/test_multi_introducers.py?rev=4685
2 https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/query?status=!closed&keywords=~test-needed&order=priority
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From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:57:55 +0200
Subject: [tt] [ExI] The NSA's new data center
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From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar 29 07:00:30 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:00:30 +0200
Subject: [tahoe-dev] erasure coding makes files more fragile, not
  less
Message-ID: <20120329140030.GP14482@leitl.org>

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From mheyman at gmail.com  Thu Mar 29 14:48:06 2012
From: mheyman at gmail.com (mheyman at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:48:06 -0400
Subject: [cryptography] Key escrow 2012
Message-ID: <mailman.3365.1576008224.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Nico Williams <nico at cryptonector.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Darren J Moffat
>>
>> For example an escrow system for ensuring you can decrypt data written by
>> one of your employees on your companies devices when the employee forgets or
>> looses their key material.
>
> Well, the context was specifically the U.S. government wanting key
> escrow.
>
Hmm - these are not mutually exclusive.

Back in the mid to late 90s, the last time the U.S. government
required key escrow for international commerce with larger key sizes,
they allowed key escrow systems that were controlled completely by the
company. Specifically, they allowed Trusted Information System's
RecoverKey product (I worked on this one, still have the shirt, and am
not aware of any other similar products available at the time - PGP's
came later and was more onerous to use).

RecoverKey simply wrapped a session key in a corporate public key
appended to the same session key wrapped with the user's public key.
If the U.S. Government wanted access to the data, the only thing they
got was the session key after supplying the key blob and a warrant to
the corporation in question. The U.S. government even allowed us to
sell RecoverKey internationally to corporations that kept their
RecoverKey data recovery centers offshore but agreed to keep them in a
friendly country.
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From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar 29 08:49:48 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:49:48 +0200
Subject: [cryptography] [OT] Reworked Version of Stuxnet Relative Duqu 
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From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar 29 08:50:51 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:50:51 +0200
Subject: [cryptography] [OT] Reworked Version of Stuxnet Relative
  Duqu 	Found?in Iran
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From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar 29 08:51:45 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:51:45 +0200
Subject: [tahoe-dev] raise your hand if you have a patch for Tahoe-LAFS 
  that needs tests
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From mk at dee.su  Thu Mar 29 18:52:40 2012
From: mk at dee.su (Maxim Kammerer)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:52:40 +0300
Subject: [tor-talk] Choosing a name for a .onon
Message-ID: <mailman.3366.1576008224.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:54, Seth David Schoen <schoen at eff.org> wrote:
> Choosing the first 40 bits of a hash generally requires trying an average of 2b
4b
0
> possibilities; my laptop does about 3-4 million SHA1 operations per second
> (per CPU core) so it would take me 3-4 days (per CPU core) of computation
> to try that many possibilities on my laptop.

Due to proliferation of Bitcoin, there are now very efficient SHA-256
generators for off-the-shelf GPUs. The numbers at [1] suggest
performance that's at least two orders of magnitude faster than your
laptop b and for double-SHA-256 instead of a single SHA-1 (which I
assume can be done by the same software after some simple adaptation).

[1] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

> Of course this requires being able to change something trivial about the
> public key when generating the .onion address.

Not necessarily b you can generate the hash first, and then check
whether the public key is legal. I.e., generate a 512-bit prime p, and
then go on with producing a completely random 512-bit e, and checking
whether SHA-1(ASN.1-RSAPublicKey(modulus=p*e, exponent=65537)) (which
is how Tor computes the .onion address) produces the desired result.
If it does, check whether e is prime. Density of primes in the range
of e is ~1/512, so that's just 9 bits more of search space, and
primality checking efficiency doesn't matter much.

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From saftergood at fas.org  Fri Mar 30 06:45:10 2012
From: saftergood at fas.org (Steven Aftergood)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:45:10 -0700
Subject: Secrecy News -- 03/30/12
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SECRECY NEWS
from the FAS Project on Government Secrecy
Volume 2012, Issue No. 29
March 30, 2012

Secrecy News Blog:  http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/


**     THE PIVOT TO THE PACIFIC, AND MORE FROM CRS
**     NEW POLICY ON MITIGATING RISKS OF BIO RESEARCH


THE PIVOT TO THE PACIFIC, AND MORE FROM CRS

The growing emphasis on Asia as a focus of U.S. national security
planning, known as the "pivot to the Pacific," is discussed in a new report
from the Congressional Research Service.

"Underlying the 'pivot' is a conviction that the center of gravity for
U.S. foreign policy, national security, and economic interests is being
realigned and shifting towards Asia, and that U.S. strategy and priorities
need to be adjusted accordingly," the CRS report says. "For many observers,
it is imperative that the United States give more emphasis to the
Asia-Pacific. Indeed, for years, many countries in the region have
encouraged the United States to step up its activity to provide a balance
to Chinabs rising influence."

"There are a number of risks to the 'pivot,' however. In an era of
constrained U.S. defense resources, an increased U.S. military emphasis on
the Asia-Pacific region might result in a reduction in U.S. military
capacity in other parts of the world. Another budgetary consideration is
that plans to restructure U.S. military deployments in Asia and minimize
cuts in the Navy may run up against more restrictive funding constraints
than plans yet assume."

"Additionally," the report says, "the perception among many that the
'rebalancing' is targeted against China could strengthen the hand of
Chinese hard-liners. Such an impression could also potentially make it more
difficult for the United States to gain Chinabs cooperation on a range of
issues. Additionally, the prominence the Obama Administration has given to
the initiative has raised the costs to the United States if it or successor
administrations fail to follow through on public pledges made, particularly
in the military realm."

Congress is fully entitled to review the emerging policy, which is
predicated on congressional action and cooperation, the CRS report said.

"Given that one purpose of the 'pivot' or 'rebalancing' toward the
Asia-Pacific is to deepen U.S. credibility in the region at a time of
fiscal constraint, Congressbs oversight and appropriations roles, as well
as its approval authority over free trade agreements, will help determine
to what extent the Administrationbs plans are implemented and how various
trade-offs are managed."

A copy of the report was obtained by Secrecy News.  See "Pivot to the
Pacific? The Obama Administration's 'Rebalancing' Toward Asia," March 28,
2012:

	http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R42448.pdf

Other new and updated CRS reports that Congress has declined to make
directly available to the public include the following.

Burma's April Parliamentary By-Elections, March 28, 2012:

	http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R42438.pdf

Guam: U.S. Defense Deployments, March 29, 2012:

	http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RS22570.pdf

Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies: FY2013 Appropriations,
March 26, 2012:

	http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42440.pdf


NEW POLICY ON MITIGATING RISKS OF BIO RESEARCH

Certain types of life science research involving "high consequence
pathogens and toxins" would be subject to new review and risk mitigation
procedures which might include classification of the research or
termination of the funding, according to a U.S. government policy issued
yesterday by the National Institutes of Health.

The policy applies to research involving 15 specified biological agents
and toxins which "pose the greatest risks of deliberate misuse with most
significant potential for mass casualties or devastating effects to the
economy, critical infrastructure or public confidence."

Research that increases the lethality or transmissibility of the agent or
toxin, or otherwise enhances its harmful consequences, will be subject to
the new review procedures.

Based on the outcome of the review, a risk mitigation plan may be
developed.  If less restrictive measures were deemed inadequate, the new
policy would allow for national security classification of the research or
termination of government funding.

See "United States Government Policy for Oversight of Life Sciences Dual
Use Research of Concern," March 29, 2012:

	http://www.fas.org/sgp/eprint/dualuse.pdf

See also "U.S. Requires New Dual-Use Biological Research Reviews" by David
Malakoff, Science Insider, March 29:

	http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2012/03/


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From eugen at leitl.org  Thu Mar 29 23:27:36 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:27:36 +0200
Subject: [cryptography] Key escrow 2012
Message-ID: <20120330062736.GJ14482@leitl.org>

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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar 30 02:01:47 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:01:47 +0200
Subject: [tor-talk] Choosing a name for a .onon
Message-ID: <20120330090147.GV14482@leitl.org>

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05 апреля 2012г.

Лектор: начальник управления Департамента финансового Мониторинга и валютного контроля Банка России.

1. Система валютного регулирования и валютного контроля в Российской Федерации и валютный контроль уполномоченных банков. Федеральный закон "О валютном регулировании и валютном контроле" № 173-ФЗ (с изменениями и дополнениями, в том числе внесенными Федеральным законом от 27 июня 2011 г. N 162-ФЗ "О внесении изменений в отдельные законодательные акты Российской Федерации в связи с принятием Федерального закона "О национальной платежной системе"), императивные нормы. Регулирование порядка поведения валютных операций резидентами и нерезидентами, открытия и ведения резидентами счетов в банках, расположенных за пределами Российской Федерации. Режим счета, открытого за рубежом

2. ИЗМЕНЕНИЯ• Действие валютного законодательства в связи с принятием Федерального закона от 27 июня 2011 г. N 161-ФЗ "О национальной платежной системе"? (не вступил в силу) и Федерального закона от 27 июня 2011 г. N 162-ФЗ "О внесении изменений в отдельные законодательные акты Российской Федерации в связи с принятием Федерального закона "О национальной платежной системе"

3. Порядок осуществления валютного контроля, установленный нормативными актами Банка России по валютному контролю. Инструкция Банка России № 117-И (с изменениями и дополнениями). Паспорта сделок, как документы валютного контроля. Проблемные вопросы оформления и ведения. Документы валютного контроля, учета и отчетности. Действия уполномоченных банков при оформлении и проведении валютных операций. Указание Банка России от 26.09.08 № 2080-У "О внесении изменений в Положение Банка России № 258-П". Основные сроки представления документов валютного контроля (с учетом изменений). Направление информации о правонарушениях и Положение ЦБ РФ от 20.07.2007 N 308-П. Указание Банка России "О формах учета по валютным операциям, осуществляемым резидентами, за исключением кредитных организаций и валютных бирж" №1950-У и его влияние на квалификацию правонарушений. Порядок открытия и ведения счетов резидентов за пределами территории РФ. Правила осуществления резидентами валютных операций за счет средств, находящихся на счетах за рубежом. Переводы резидентами средств на свои счета.

4. Положение Банка России от 29.12.2010 № 364-П “О порядке передачи уполномоченными банками и территориальными учреждениями Банка России в таможенные органы для выполнения ими функций агентов валютного контроля информации по паспортам сделок по внешнеторговым договорам (контрактам) в электронном виде”. Указание Банка России от 29.12.2012 № 2556-У “О внесении изменения в пункт 1.2 Положения Банка России от 1 июня 2004 года № 258-П“О порядке представления резидентами уполномоченным банкам подтверждающих документов и информации, связанных с проведением валютных операций с нерезидентами по внешнеторговым сделкам, и осуществления уполномоченными банками контроля за проведением валютных операци3. Указание Банка России от 29.12.2010 № 2557-У “О внесении изменений в Инструкцию Банка России от 15 июня 2004 года № 117-И “О порядке представления резидентами и нерезидентами уполномоченным банкам документов и информации при осуществлении валютных операций, порядке учета уполномоченными банками валютных операций и оформления паспортов сделок”

5. Регулирование порядка представления информации о нарушениях валютного законодательства. Положение ЦБ РФ от 20.07.2007 N 308-П И практика его применения (с учетом последних изменений). Постановление Правительства РФ от 24 февраля 2009 г. N 166 "О порядке представления органами и агентами валютного контроля в орган валютного контроля, уполномоченный Правительством Российской Федерации. Практика применения Положения Банка России №308-П на примере конкретных нарушений.

6. Валютное регулирование операций физических лиц. Операции физических лиц и валютный контроль уполномоченных банков. Нормы прямого действия Федерального закона № 173-ФЗ (в том числе заработная плата и командировочные расходы). Порядок осуществления переводов денежных средств физическими лицами из Российской Федерации и по территории Российской Федерации. "Близкородственные" переводы. Действие Инструкции Банка России № 136-И.в связи с внесением изменений и дополнений в Федеральный закон № 115-ФЗ "О противодействии легализации (отмыванию) доходов, полученных преступным путем и финансированию терроризма" Федеральным законом от 27 июня 2011 г. N 162-ФЗ "О внесении изменений в отдельные законодательные акты Российской Федерации в связи с принятием Федерального закона "О национальной платежной системе" и в связи с принятием Федерального закона от 27 июня 2011 г. N 161-ФЗ "О национальной платежной системе"

7. Ответственность за нарушение валютного законодательства. Федеральный Закон № 174-ФЗ.

8. Перспективы развития валютного регулирования и валютного контроля в Российской Федерации.

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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar 30 07:09:17 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:09:17 +0200
Subject: Death of a data haven: cypherpunks, WikiLeaks, and the world's 
  smallest nation
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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/sealand-and-havenco.ars/1

Death of a data haven: cypherpunks, WikiLeaks, and the world's smallest
nation

By James Grimmelmann | Published March 27, 2012 8:00 PM

Sealand in all its rusty splendor

A few weeks ago, Fox News breathlessly reported that the embattled WikiLeaks
operation was looking to start a new life under on the sea. WikiLeaks, the
article speculated, might try to escape its legal troubles by putting its
servers on Sealand, a World War II anti-aircraft platform seven miles off the
English coast in the North Sea, a place that calls itself an independent
nation. It sounds perfect for WikiLeaks: a friendly, legally unassailable
host with an anything-goes attitude.

But readers with a memory of the early 2000s might be wondering, "Didn't
someone already try this? How did that work out?" Good questions. From 2000
to 2008, a company called HavenCo did indeed offer no-questions-asked
colocation on Sealandband it didn't end well.

HavenCo's failureband make no mistake about it, HavenCo did failbshows how
hard it is to get out from under government's thumb. HavenCo built it, but no
one came. For a host of reasons, ranging from its physical vulnerability to
the fact that The Man doesn't care where you store your data if he can get
his hands on you, Sealand was never able to offer the kind of immunity from
law that digital rebels sought. And, paradoxically, by seeking to avoid
government, HavenCo made itself exquisitely vulnerable to one government in
particular: Sealand's. It found that out the hard way in 2003 when Sealand
"nationalized" the company.

For the last two years, I've researched the history of Sealand and HavenCo. I
used the Wayback Machine to reconstruct long-since-vanished webpages. I dug
through microfilm of newspapers back to the 1960s. I pored over thousands of
pages of documents, only recently unsealed, from the United Kingdom's
National Archives.

My findings have just been published in a new 80-page article in the
University of Illinois Law Review, one called "Sealand, HavenCo, and the Rule
of Law" (PDF). It tells the fullband very weirdbstory of how this micronation
happened to be in the right place (the North Sea) at the right time (the late
1990s) to provide some cypherpunk entrepreneurs with the most impractical
data center ever built. Here, I'll give the condensed version of the tale,
hitting the important points in HavenCo's history and explaining what went
wrong.  Cryptographers in paradise

The story starts on the Caribbean island of Anguilla, at the 1998 Financial
Cryptography conference. The conference, dedicated to building secure online
payment systems, drew hackers who believed in better living through crypto.
One of them was an expatriate American, Sean Hastings, a cynical but cheerful
libertarian with a healthy suspicion of any and all forms of authority. (His
website sports the chipper slogan "Keep Calm and Carry" and features his PDF
book God Wants You Dead.) The freedom-minded Hastings had moved to Anguilla
to work on online gambling projects and explore the idea of starting a data
haven.

A Sealand/HavenCo timeline

1942: Roughs Tower constructed off the coast of East Anglia.

1948: Roughs Tower abandoned by English government following World War II.

1966: Pirate radio entrepreneur Roy Bates occupies Roughs Tower.

1967: Bates declares an independent Principality of Sealand.

1968: Bates acquitted of British firearms charges, causing Britain to adopt
policy of leaving him alone.

1978: German-led coup takes control of Sealand on August 10; Roy Bates
retakes Sealand in dawn helicopter raid on August 15.

1987: Britain extends territorial waters to 12 miles, encompassing Sealand.
Sealand claims its own 12-mile territorial waters.

1999: Sean Hastings and Ryan Lackey conceive of idea for HavenCo.

2000: HavenCo launches to massive press hoopla.

2002: HavenCo taken over by Sealand after commercial failure and mounting
tensions.

2006: Sealand badly damaged in generator fire.

2008: HavenCo website goes offline.

2009: Sealand launches Twitter account.

A data haven is "the information equivalent to a tax haven," a country that
helps you evade other countries' rules on what you can and can't do with your
bits. (Think "Swiss banking" for data.) The best-known example comes from
Neal Stephenson's 1999 best-seller Cryptonomicon, whose heroes go up against
murderous warlords, rapacious venture capitalists, and epic authorial
digressions in their quest to bring untraceable communications to the masses
and get rich in the process.

The idea, and the term, come out of 1970s and 1980s debates over whether
companies could get around pesky privacy protections by shipping their
magnetic tape reels to a country with laxer privacy laws. What started off as
a pejorative term flipped to a positive in the eyes of the cypherpunks. They
saw governmental restrictions on the free flow of informationbprivacy,
copyright, sedition, drug-making instructions, or whateverbas grave threats
to personal freedom. Cypherpunks hoped a borderless Internet, together with
strong cryptography and a friendly data haven or two for their servers, would
destroy the government's ability to snoop on and censor online speech. It
would all lead to a new age of genuine liberty.

Hastings was a true believer. On Anguilla, he founded a data haven company
named IsleByte and worked on open-source electronic currency software. But he
was getting increasingly frustrated with Anguilla. He expected a "libertarian
mecca," but the actual Anguilla sharply restricted both gambling and
pornography. Worse, he was finding Anguilla's legal system frustrating to
deal with, something between a bureaucratic nightmare and a straight-up
shakedown.

At the Financial Cryptography conference, Hastings amused and fascinated the
other attendees with a data haven variant soon dubbed the "Toxic Barge
Project". The idea was to buy a ship, fill the top of the hold with computer
severs and the bottom with the nastiest toxic waste imaginable, then plant
yourself in international waters near a major port and start offering
co-location services. As Hastings explained, the toxic waste "forces the
large military power to protect you from outside threats, while being very
hesitant to attempt to board your vessel."

The barge idea went nowhere, but it marked Hastings as the go-to guy for
out-of-the-box data haven schemes. After Hastings moved back to the United
States, one of the other conference attendees, a gregarious and energetic MIT
dropout named Ryan Lackey, crashed with him in early 1999. Lackey had his own
geek and libertarian cred, along with a sense of adventure that would later
take him to Iraq to perform IT work during the American occupation.

The two men started thinking seriously about where to place an actual,
practical data haven. They looked at several Pacific islands and even
contemplated building their own artificial island on the Cortes Bank, a
hundred miles out into the Pacific from San Diego. But then, flipping through
Erwin Strauss's cult classic How to Start Your Own Country, they found
Sealand. Strauss described it as the most successful micronation of all
timeband it looked like a perfect fit for their project.

Helicopter approach to Sealand

Ryan Lackey

Photograph by Ryan Lackey

The Principality of Sealand

"Sealand" is a 120-foot by 50-foot deck on a pair of hollow concrete legs. It
stands proudly a few dozen feet off the waves in the North Sea, seven miles
off the English coast. It was built during World War II to provide
antiaircraft defense for the Thames Estuary and given the name "Roughs
Tower."  The platform and legs were mounted on a pontoon, which was towed
into place, then flooded to create a stable base on the seabed.

After the war, Roughs Tower sat empty until the pirate radio bubble of the
1960s. Entrepreneurs trying to get around the BBC's broadcasting monopoly
took to ships and offshore forts, setting up primitive radio stations staffed
by adventuresome young music lovers who didn't mind bad food and harsh
conditions. One such station, Radio Essex, was run by one of world's great
lovable rogues, Roy Bates. As one of his DJs, David Sinclair, would later put
it, "Roy was a throwback. He should have been born in the time of the first
Queen Elizabeth and sailed with Drake. ... [H]e was the kind of man who had
creditors everywhere, but it never seemed to bother him." 

Bates first set up shop on Knock John, one of Roughs Tower's sister
platforms, by evicting the staff of another pirate station already onsite.
But Knock John was inside the three-mile limit of English territorial waters,
and the government successfully prosecuted Bates for unlicensed broadcasting
in the fall of 1966.

Unfazed, Bates packed up his equipment and moved out to Roughs Tower on
Christmas Day 1966. That it was already occupied by employees of Radio
Caroline didn't slow him down. Roy Bates's crew, Sinclair explained, "had
earnt a fearsome reputation for skulduggery, as 'the hard bastards of the
North Sea.'" They intimidated Radio Caroline into leaving. 

Unfortunately, the penny-pinching Bates left his men alone on Roughs Tower
with only three days worth of foodbthey lasted 17 days before calling a
lifeboat to be evacuated. Radio Caroline moved back to the platform in April
1967, but foolishly entered into a joint operating agreement with Bates.
Through a combination of subterfuge and force, Bates managed to replace all
of the Caroline employees with his own men. He spent the next few months
fighting off Radio Caroline boarding parties with an air rifle and petrol
bombs. (The violence was hardly unusual: Adrian Johns's excellent Death of a
Pirate tells the particularly memorable story of how one pirate broadcaster
shot and killed another.)

Sealand, just off the English coast from Harwich

Google Maps

A new broadcasting act, passed in the summer of 1967, put an end to Roughs
Tower's usefulness as a pirate radio base by sharply cracking down on the
landlubbing advertisers and suppliers who kept the offshore stations going.
But Roy Bates had an even grander scheme by this point: running his own
country. On September 2, 1967, he declared that Roughs Tower was now the
independent Principality of Sealand, and he named himself Prince.

If the British government had been worried about Roy Bates before, it was
positively alarmed once he started hurling Molotov cocktails and calling
himself Prince Roy. But every time the government came up with a scheme to
oust him, Bates found a way to spin the story to make the bureaucrats look
like bumbling bullies. He turned out to be a grandmaster of the preemptive
press strike.  Five stranger-than-fiction Sealand facts

    During the initial flooding, the pontoon filled unevenly with water,
causing the tower to list 30 degrees to starboardbwith 100 crewmen aboard.

    The one ship to fly the Sealand flag was ultimately sold to MGM and blown
up for a scene in the Tommy Lee Jones movie Blown Away.)

    After failing to seize control of Sealand in 1978, Alexander Achenbach
set up a government-in-exile that dabbles in perpetual motion machines, UFOs,
conspiracy theories, and revisionist history.

    A generator on Sealand caught fire in 2006, requiring an RAF rescue
helicopter to airlift the lone crewmember on board to the British mainland
for medical treatment.

    A shadowy Spanish crime ring produced thousands of "Sealand" passports in
the late 1990s, including fake diplomatic credentials.

Customs tried to deny Bates permission to take his leaky boat out of port,
arguing that it was unseaworthy. Bates got the Times of London to run a story
saying his children were "marooned" on Sealand, and Customs backed down. 

The government tried to buy him out, but Bates caught wind that a marine
detachment was on standby to occupy the platform as soon as he left.
"Commandos Set to Seize Fort," read the Times headline and the plan was
dropped. 

Bates even appears to have run one of his employees as a double agent,
tricking the Ministry of Defense into making an ill-considered offer to take
over the fort if the employee took it from Bates. "Ministry Planned to Seize
Sea Fort," read the headline in the Daily Telegraph. The government had to
submit to the embarrassment of Parliamentary questioning over the incident.

The government's last serious attempt to get rid of Bates involved bringing
him up on firearms charges after his son Michael fired a pistol at a
government vessel working on a nearby buoy. Bates was acquitted in October
1968 when the court ruled it lacked jurisdiction over firearms offenses
committed on Roughs Tower. At this, the government gave up. An ad hoc
committee in the Cabinet Office concluded:

    Mr. Bates' continued occupation of the Tower was undesirable, because of
the shooting incident and the possibility of further violence, and also
because of the small but continuing threat that the Tower could be used for
some illegal activity not at present foreseen. Nevertheless, he was doing no
actual harm, so far as was known, and the Ministry of Defense had no need of
the Fort themselves. There were no pressing reasons for evicting Mr. Bates,
certainly none that would justify the use of force or the passage of special
legislation.

The next 30 years in Sealand history are one improbable scheme after another.
Stamps and coins quickly turned into grandiose plans for offshore banking and
tourism. By the mid-1970s, Sealand's associates were passing around a
brochure showing how Sealand would be built out to include a hotel, a golf
course, a tanker port, and even an airport. In the late 1980s, Sealand served
as a flag of convenience for an American pirate broadcaster who lasted three
days off of Long Island before the FCC shut him down. The Bateses optioned
their story to a screenwriter, and although Emma Watson was at one point
allegedly attached to the project, nothing came of it. Even a 2008 Red Bull
skateboarding video was filmed on Sealandbwatch for the board over the side
at 2:49.

If this all sounds rather two-bit, it was. Whether or not Roy Bates spent a
million pounds on Sealand, as he sometimes claims, the "rusting heap of junk"
was no Monaco. For most of its history, Sealand has been the world's most
impractical vacation home. The Bateses visit regularly and keep the place
manned at all times, but they live ashore. HavenCo remains Sealand's one true
brush with real money and real fame.

Rigid inflatable boat used to ferry people and supplies to Sealand

Ryan Lackey

The initial satellite Internet connection on Sealand

Ryan Lackey

The founding of HavenCo

Sealand was an inspired choice for the data haven project. Roy Bates's son,
Michael, was running Sealand on a day-to-day basis as the Prince Regent by
the 1990s. Michael inherited his father's distaste for authority and his
fondness for swashbuckling antics. A professional fisherman, he was hardly a
computer geek. But he recognized in Hastings and Lackey the same cheeky
outlaw spirit that had brought his own family to Sealand and kept it there
for decades. Hastings and his wife flew out to visit Sealand, and a mutual
love-in quickly followed.

Like any good dot-com-trepreneurs, Hastings and Lackey incorporated. They
called the new venture HavenCo, for "Haven Co-location." The pitch was
simple. HavenCo would offer secure, anonymous hosting from Sealand.
Microwave, fiber, and satellite links would provide fast and redundant
bandwidth. Sealand's concrete legs would be kitted out with server racks and
uninterruptible power suppliesband then, for additional security, flooded
with nitrogen, so that only authorized techies wearing scuba gear could would
have physical access.

Who would host data there? HavenCo had plenty of ideas, including businesses
looking to avoid pesky subpoenas, the Tibetan government-in-exile, anonymous
currencies, and porn. Only a few things were off limits: spam, child
pornography, and hacking attempts directed at HavenCo itself.

Sealand's canned food pantry

Ryan Lackey

Well-known geeks Avi Freedman and Joi Ito came onboard as investors. Sameer
Parekh was named chairman of the board. The company copied its bylaws from a
do-it-yourself guide and drew up a detailed business plan with the kind of
explosive growth assumptions everyone made during the dot-com boom: $65
million in revenue by the end of three years and a half-billion-dollar IPO. 

The new company promised customers "First World" infrastructure but with
"Third World" regulations and taxes. Its sloganb"the free world just
milliseconds away"bplayed up the cyberlibertarian idea that the Internet was
about to make geography irrelevant.

The violence inherent in the system

Roy Bates has always been eager to find business partners. One of them,
Alexander Achenbach, a former diamond dealer who seems to have been involved
with an illegal diploma mill, drafted a constitution for Sealand, was named
its minister for foreign affairs, and went around trying to persuade other
nations to recognize Sealand. For reasons that are still unclear, he decided
to oust Bates and install himself as head of state in 1978.

Achenbach invited Roy and Joan Bates to a meeting in Austria with a group of
investors. It was a trick to get them off of Sealand while his lawyer, Gernot
PC<tz, together with a pair of Dutchmen, occupied it from a helicopter.
Michael Bates had been left alone on Sealand and let them land. They repaid
his kindness by locking him inside, holding him prisoner for a few days, then
putting him on a passing fishing boat.

Roy Bates was never the kind of man to take anything lying down. He assembled
a helicopter strike team of his own. They attacked at dawn on August 15,
1978, five days after the original invasion. A brief and tense standoff ended
after Michael Bates accidentally discharged his shotgun, leading PC<tz and the
Dutchmen to surrender. Prince Roy now put the erstwhile invaders on trial,
holding PC<tz prisoner until he could pay a fine of 75,000 Deutschmarks (more
than $50,000).

The German government threw a diplomatic snit fit. They called the incident
"in a way an act of piracy, committed on the high sea but still in front of
British territory by British citizens." But the British government was now
happy with their position: what happened on Sealand was not its problem. The
whole affair only blew over with PC<tz's release on September 28.

The story is slightly fishy. At one point during the hostage drama, the
German embassy told the press the whole affair was a publicity stunt. The
Bateses would later retain PC<tz as their own lawyer. But there is no
conclusive evidence to establish that the coup was real or fake. The truth
may well be somewhere in between.

The next thing to do was drum up publicity for the new venture. Here, too,
the HavenCo-Sealand pairing was made in heaven. Roy and Michael Bates had
been working the press brilliantly for years. Add charismatic geeks to
Sealand's inherent romance and the story was irresistible. HavenCo parlayed
its memorable business model into a Wired cover story by Simson Garfinkel.
Even today, it remains one of the best pieces of tech journalism of all time.
That was quickly followed by dozens of other newspaper and TV stories. The
press queries came so fast and furious HavenCo barely had the time to respond
to inquiries from potential customers.

As journalists covering HavenCo's launch recognized, security was absolutely
central to its business model. It seemed likely that a data center hosting
content too hot to put anywhere else was likely to attract some enemies. The
press asked some probing questions about how HavenCo would protect its
customers' data, both physically and virtually.

No problem, according to HavenCo. The redundant communications links would
make it impossible for any one country to cut off access. The
nitrogen-flooded server rooms would keep casual intruders out. Not that
they'd have an easy time getting there in the first place. Sealand's main
deck stands 24 feet off the surface of the waves:. The only ways on are by
helicopter, an extraordinarily precarious ladder, or the hair-raising
experience of being winched on board in a bosun's chair. Just to make sure,
HavenCo planned to post round-the-clock guards packing machine guns. Even in
the worst case, HavenCo would destroy the server rather than hand over the
databbut if it did, the customer would receive a full refund.

Even better, Sealand had a demonstrated history of fighting off invaders. It
started with the defense against Radio Caroline in 1967, and continued for
years with Michael Bates's habit of taking the occasional shot across the bow
of passing ships. That wasn't all. In 1978, Sealand defeated an
honest-to-goodness armed coup orchestrated by its own minister for foreign
affairs, Alexander Achenbach. After a five-day occupation, the Bateses retook
the platform at shotgun-point.

The Sealand data center (later moved off the fort to London)

Ryan Lackey

HavenCo falls apart

Despite all the big talk, HavenCo never came even close to success. It had at
most a dozen customers. Other than the makers of an unauthorized accelerator
for IBM's AS/400 minicomputers, most of the business came from online
gambling. The huge racks of servers, the nitrogen, and the machine guns never
even existed in the first place. The dot-com crash not only cut the bottom
out from colocation pricing, but also took out HavenCo's fiber-optic link
when the company providing it went bankrupt. That left the entire operation
with a pokey 128Kbps satellite link, which staggered badly under
denial-of-service attacks.

Ryan Lackey

Ryan Lackey

Sean Hastings left the company for undisclosed personal reasons in 2000.
Relations between Lackey and the Bates family gradually deteriorated. Lackey
could tell the Bateses and their advisors didn't share his cypherpunk
enthusiasm and he decried their bumbling and self-dealing attempts to make
technical decisions. But his own increasingly secretive waysbhe started an
anonymous remailer without telling anyone, for instancebundermined Sealand's
trust in him. In a recent e-mail interview with Ars Technica's Nate Anderson,
Michael Bates explained that Lackey "was out of control" and "became doctor
evil in his lair."

The final straw came in May 2002, when Sealand's advisors decided against
allowing HavenCo to host an unlicensed streaming-video service. (The scheme,
which involved buying DVDs and streaming video from them to one customer at a
time, bears a striking resemblance to the recently-enjoined Zediva.) Lackey
saw it as exactly the sort of service HavenCo had been created to host, but
the Sealanders decided that it risked undermining Sealand's relationship with
the United Kingdom. A deal was negotiated, under which Lackey would be repaid
the $220,000 he had put into HavenCo and continue as a reseller of HavenCo
services but turn over day-to-day operational control.

Lackey was barely off the platform when the deal broke down. In his view,
HavenCo had been "nationalized" by Sealand. This locked him out, physically
and virtually. The company even confiscated his personal computers. The newly
reorganized HavenCo issued a statement that Lackey was no longer an employee,
and it adopted a new and much more restrictive acceptable use policy. The
next five years were a sad study in decline. HavenCo no longer had real
technical experts or the competitive advantage of being willing to host
legally risky content. What it did have was an absurdly inefficient cost
structure. Every single piece of equipment, drop of fuel, and scrap of food
had to be brought in by boat or helicopter. By 2006, "Sealand" hosting was in
a London data center. By 2008, even the HavenCo website was offline.

What went wrong

Despite all of HavenCo's worst-case planning and bring-it-on rhetoric, the
nations of the world never had to lift a finger to topple it. It failed of
its own accord. In hindsight, it's hard to identify just one cause; HavenCo
had so many problems, its failure was overdetermined.

As a starting point, HavenCo's only serious advantage was its liberal
acceptable use policy. Seven miles out into the North Sea is a terrible place
to put a data center. HavenCo was never going to be able to compete with the
big boys in the colocation business who can choose between cheap real estate
and being right next to interconnection points. So it needed to be able to
offer its customers security advantages that outweighed its high costs.
Unfortunately, it couldn't.

The Sealand coat of arms

Wikimedia Commons

Most importantly, Sealand almost certainly isn't an independent nation,
notwithstanding Roy Bates's claims to the contrary. The 1968 decision
acquitting him on firearms charges was hardly a ringing endorsement of
Sealand's claims. Instead, it had much more to do with England's byzantine
legal system, which at the time was chock-full of medieval holdovers. The
court made clear that Parliament could have set up the English legal system
in a way that gave the county courts jurisdiction over Roughs Tower, it just
hadn't actually done so. In 1987, when the United Kingdom extended its
territorial waters from three up to 12 miles, it did just that.

In fact, Alexander Achenbach, the German pretender, accidentally precipitated
a court ruling that Sealand isn't a real country. When he was still in
Sealand's good graces, he attempted to renounce his German citizenship on the
grounds that he was now a citizen of Sealand. In May 1978, a German court
denied the request in a ruling that explicitly consideredband rejectedbthe
idea that Sealand is an independent country.

Even if Sealand were "officially" its own country, independence isn't worth
much without allies. Any nation with warplanesbno, make that any nation with
an inflatable boat and an outboard motorbcould blow the place up. The only
thing stopping it would be the United Kingdom's displeasure at explosions in
its territorial waters. Any protection offered by Sealand's larger neighbor,
however, would presumably come with enough strings attached to raise the
question of why the servers should be on Sealand rather than onshore. The
United Kingdom has been leaving the Bateses alone since 1968 mostly because
they're such clever chaps that ousting them would be more embarrassment than
it's worth.

HavenCo's collapse also shows a truly deep irony in its business model. By
putting itself outside of other countries' legal systems, it put itself
completely at Sealand's mercy. In hindsight, Ryan Lackey explained, "While I
could sue HavenCo and/or directors for breach of contract, etc., ... it would
presumably lead to a negative resolution of the Sealand sovereignty issue."
Sealand is a toy nation with a toy legal system, not a stable business
environment. Prince Roy and Prince Regent Michael might be fun to raise a
glass with, but they don't inspire the kind of confidence an independent
judiciary would. On Sealand, Sean Hastings and Ryan Lackey unwittingly
recreated everything that drove them out of Anguilla in the first place.

HavenCo's heirs

Sealand isn't going to save WikiLeaks any more than putting the site's
servers in a former nuclear bunker would. The legal system figured out a long
time ago that throwing the account owner in jail works just as well as
seizing the server. Unless Julian Assange is willing to move to Sealand for
the rest of his life, he'll be somewhere the long arm of some country's law
can reach. The corollary is that if WikiLeaks thrives, it will be because
some countrybone the rest of the world respects more than Sealandbdecides it
sees nothing seriously wrong with what WikiLeaks has done.

The same goes for everyone else who's muttered about moving to Sealand. With
monotonous regularity, someone proposes putting outlaw data there and asks
for money to make it happen. In 2001, a Canadian college student tried to
raise $15,000 to put an OpenNap server on Sealand. In 2007, the Pirate Bay
started passing the hat for a "buy Sealand" fund. It took in $20,000broughly
one ten-thousandth of the estimated price. But Sealand alone isn't going to
gain them much.

Take one of HavenCo's classic lines of business: porn. Why would someone
wanting to send vanilla pornography into Saudi Arabia need to bother with
Sealand? That stuff's legal in the United States. The only content that
couldn't be hosted somewhere else would be content that's illegal
everywherebmeaning the nations of the world would find it quite easy to gang
up on Sealand, or be willing to look the other way while someone knocked it
into the sea.

Governments have powerful virtual tools as well. In the last decade, China
has proven that national Internet filtering can be made to work, if not
perfectly, than at least reasonably well. Other repressive regimes have been
paying attention. SOPA and PIPA's proposed Internet filtering regime showed
many in the United States would be willing to go there, too. Discrete data
havens are going to have recognizable IP addresses, and as soon as a
government sets up a blacklist, you can bet those addresses will go on it.
Indeed, the very pressure for SOPA-style blocking shows why data havens as
such have been a sideshow to the real fights over Internet policy. Copyright
owners have discovered, to their horror, there are plenty of foreign sites
hosting the kind of rips and wares that might get you shut down within the
United States. Who needs Sealand when you've got Spain?

That's the deal with the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) and other
trade agreements, too. These put diplomatic and political pressure on other
governments to make their IP enforcement systems more beholden to United
States copyright owners. The very fact this is still an ongoing battle shows
that plenty of countries will still host material the United States
government disapproves. In a sense, the state of free speech on the Internet
has never gotten bad enough to make HavenCo necessary.

Sunset falls on Sealand

Ryan Lackey

Learning from HavenCo

HavenCo was always an awkward way station on the road to the real cypherpunk
vision: perfect, anonymous cryptography in the hands of the masses. It
doesn't matter where the bits are stored if no one can tell what they are.
HavenCo's founders understood this. Sealand was just a temporary stopgap
until the good crypto was up and running. Tor and PGP have done far more for
free speech than Sealand has, albeit with less nautical flair.

HavenCo's trouble also underscores the dangers of treating "law" as though it
were "code."  HavenCo thought it had found the perfect legal loophole: a
country with the legal right to ignore other countries' laws. But this legal
GC6del sentence didn't work because, in the real world, if a country's laws
aren't catching the people they're intended to catch, the country can just
change its laws. As Cindy Cohn of the Electronic Frontier Foundation likes to
say, "You can't hack the law."

Legal systems are like Soylent Green: they're made out of people. If you want
to protect civil liberties using law, you need to get people on your side who
share your vision of what law stands for. That's why the SOPA protests were
so effective. They converted an argument about justice into real-world
political power.

One more story from pirate radio history illustrates the paradox at the heart
of HavenCo. In the summer of 1967, the pirate radio ship Laissez Faire
radioed a distress call. Two factions on board were fighting. There were
threats of murder. The authorities did nothing, explaining that the pirates
"had deliberately placed themselves outside the reach of the law." TouchC). 

HavenCo couldn't live with law, and it couldn't live without it.

James Grimmelmann is an Associate Professor at New York Law School.




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From eugen at leitl.org  Fri Mar 30 07:34:48 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:34:48 +0200
Subject: Secrecy News -- 03/30/12
Message-ID: <20120330143448.GG14482@leitl.org>

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From shawn at willden.org  Fri Mar 30 14:33:58 2012
From: shawn at willden.org (Shawn Willden)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:33:58 -0400
Subject: [tahoe-dev] erasure coding makes files more fragile, not less
Message-ID: <mailman.3368.1576008224.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Mar 28, 2012 1:22 PM, "Eugen Leitl" <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:00:56AM -0400, Shawn Willden wrote:
>
> > The arguments make are the basis for the approach I (successfully)
pushed
> > when we started the VG2 grid:  We demand high uptime from individual
>
> Can you please tell more about the VG2 grid? I clean missed it.

(Sorry I'm slow to respond -- I'm vacationing with my family and often have
better things to do than read email :-) ).

Volunteer Grid 2 is a Tahoe grid composed of volunteers all over the world.
Learning from some problems that the first volunteer grid had, I suggested
to early members that VG2 establish some clear and somewhat restrictive
policies in order to ensure that the grid was useful for system backups.

Two specific backup-driven requirements we had were high
reliability/availability and relatively high capacity.  To that end, we
established a 95% nominal up time requirement and a 500 GB minimum node
capacity requirement.  We also avoid co-located nodes and disallow usage of
more than min(storage_provided, 1 TB).  The limit on usage is to avoid
having one user deploy, say, 10 TB and then try to consume that much from
the grid, swamping the rest of the servers.

> > servers because the math of erasure coding works against you when the
> > individual nodes are unreliable, and we ban co-located servers and
prefer
> > to minimize the number of servers owned and administered by a single
person
> > in order to ensure greater independence.
> >
> > How has that worked out?  Well, it's definitely constrained the growth
rate
> > of the grid.  We're two years in and still haven't reached 20 nodes.
 And
>
> It doesn't surprise me at all, since I've never heard a single squeak
> about it in the usual channels. (And I'm moderately well-informed
> in such matters).

I'm surprised.   It was definitely announced here when it was created, and
discussed occasionally since.

> > although our nodes have relatively high reliability, I'm not sure we've
> > actually reached the 95% uptime target -- my node, for example, was down
> > for over a month while I moved, and we recently had a couple of outages
> > caused by security breaches.
> >
> > However, we do now have 15 solid, high-capacity, relatively available
(90%,
> > at least) nodes that are widely dispersed geographically (one in Russia,
> > six in four countries in Europe, seven in six states in the US; not sure
> > about the other).  So it's pretty good -- though we do need more nodes.
>
> How large is the total storage capacity? What about introducer nodes, is
> there just one?

Total storage capacity, as reported by the stats gatherer, is around 14 TB.
 That's disk used (~6 TB) plus disk available (~8 TB).  As near as I can
tell by eyeballing the graph and summing my estimates is that consumption
grows by about 40 GB per day.  We have a helper but it's lightly used.
 Only one introducer.  The node on the slowest network connection has about
1 Mbps of bandwidth, two or three nodes are on gigabit links, most are 6-50
Mbps, IIRC.  Hardware is similarly varied, with the low end being a small
NAS box, the high end being some fairly powerful servers in data centers,
and everything in between including some virtual servers.

Upload performance, as measured from my machine (which has a 50 Mbps up,
100 Mbps down connection), averages about about 300 KBps, before erasure
coding, so with my settings I get around 100 KBps net upload rate.  I
haven't done any download tests recently, but in the past they've been
approximately the same as upload speeds, but without the erasure coding
penalty.

-- 

Shawn

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From: marioc at computer.org (Mario Contestabile)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:49:04 -0400
Subject: [cryptography] crypto.cat
Message-ID: <mailman.3369.1576008224.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

You guys have any cypherpunk opinions on https://crypto.cat/ ?

It's a "secure" online communication tool, apparently used by Anonymous.

It was developed by Nadim Kobeissi, (yet another Montrealer).

Mario

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From eugen at leitl.org  Sat Mar 31 01:53:42 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:53:42 +0200
Subject: [tahoe-dev] erasure coding makes files more fragile, not
  less
Message-ID: <20120331085342.GU14482@leitl.org>

It seems the VG2 could use quite a lot of helpers.

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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:15:16 -0600
Subject: [tahoe-dev] Hack Fest Day One report
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Folks:

Here are some notes about Hack Fest Day One.

b" David-Sarah did a lot of trac ticket gardening. You can see their
changes by browsing the Trac Timeline B9 (which, by the way, is one of
my favorite ways of keeping up with Tahoe-LAFS development). I haven't
looked at all of their updates to tickets yet.

b" Andrew Miller wrote a unit test for his path to make "tahoe backup"
follow a limited number of symlinks, and updated his patch on #641. He
didn't set the "review-needed" flag. I'm not sure why not -- perhaps
that means he doesn't think the patch is (yet?) suitable for trunk.

We have a conversation about how to handle symlinks. There are three
possible features:

1. Traverse symlinks when doing a "tahoe backup". That's what
amiller's patch does, and it raises the question of how to handle
cycles encountered while traversing the local filesystem to do a
backup. The main use case for this is amiller's desire to use symlinks
as a way to specify which directories should be backed up -- he can
put symlinks into one directory pointing to several other directories,
then ask tahoe to backup that one directory.

2. Have a special file to notify "tahoe backup" to skip the current
directory. It could be named ".tahoeignore" (analogous to .gitignore)
and "tahoe backup" would refuse to backup any directory containing a
.tahoeignore file, nor traverse through that one to others.

3. A way to restore filesystem details other than the names and
contents of files, such as symlinks, ownership, permissions,
timestamps, etc. This is the topic of ticket #1325.

b" There was some discussion of whether people wanted "tahoe backup"
(which stores your files and directories individually so that you can
browse, restore, and share access to them separately) to handle more
and more of the local filesystem metadata (#1325) or if instead people
who want that should just switch to using a more "archive oriented"
backup tool like duplicity, which bundles all of your files and
directories, along with their metadata, into a tarball before storing
it on Tahoe-LAFS. I tend to "not want to go there" and send people off
to use duplicity or Shawn Willden's Grid Backup or something if that's
what they want, but everyone else seemed to think it would be a good
idea to add more of these features to "tahoe backup".

The reason I gave at the time for not wanting to go there is that
there is such a mismatch between the Tahoe-LAFS model, with immutable
files, capability access control, metadata on edges rather than on
nodes, a full graph instead of a tree, etc., and the traditional Unix
filesystem with its mutable files, ownership and permission bits,
metadata on nodes instead of on edges, tree-plus-symlinks, etc.

I later thought that there is another reason I don't like the idea
extending "tahoe backup" in that direction, which is that I like for
the data which lives in Tahoe-LAFS to be meaningful independent of any
given "source machine" (for example things like "UID of owner" are
either meaningless or incorrect unless you decide to interpret them in
the context of a "source system" which happens to have the right
meaning for that UID), and also independent of any given source
operating system type. For example a long-standing bug that really
annoys me (someone fix it during Hack Fest!) is that "tahoe backup"
reads the "metadata-change-time" if on Unix, or else reads the
"file-creation-time" if on Windows, and then sticks the resulting
timestamp into an field named "ctime" in Tahoe-LAFS (#897). The result
is meaningless unless you choose to interpret in terms of being either
"in Unix" or "in Windows". Annoying! The thing is in the cloud -- it
isn't in either Unix or Windows while it is there.

I guess in general, I think of the data stored in Tahoe-LAFS as being
shareable among multiple people, and meaningful within different
contexts -- different "source machines" and even different "source
operating system types", and being meaningful outside of the context
of any source machine at all -- just purely "in the cloud". It is
perhaps not impossible, but certainly more work, to handle extended
filesystem metadata correctly, compared to making a traditional
"backup and restore" app. In a traditional "backup and restore" app
like duplicity, the data "in the cloud" can't be shared or used other
than by first restoring it to a system that is of a sufficiently
similar type to its source system.

b" On the topic of issue 1., above, I suggested an alternative way to
prevent cycling endlessly through the local filesystem. The primary
proposal -- already partially implemented by amiller -- is to have a
limit on how many symlinks you'll cross over before you stop. If you
stop, you should probably print out a complete listing of how you got
to where you are, and which steps were traversing symlinks, so that
the user can figure out if this was really a cycle and if so how they
want to break the cycle.

My alternative proposal is that for each directory that you visit,
learn its device id and inode number and use those as a unique
identifier for this directory in the context of this run of "tahoe
backup", and if you encounter a directory for the second time then use
the same within-tahoe-lafs-directory that you created for it the first
time.

That's way better! It is almost elegant. But as Brian then pointed
out, it can't work. Because all directories (except for the root dir)
that are produced by a "tahoe backup" are immutable. You can't have a
cycle of immutable directories, because it is impossible to get a link
to an immutable directory before providing the initial and final
contents of it.

b" This led me to off-handedly comment that such a thing would be
possible with Petrification a.k.a. revocation of write authority
(#954) which inspired David-Sarah to announce that they were going to
implement #954 during Hack Fest. That would be very ambitious, but
David-Sarah often says that they will do ambitious things and then
does them. I remember that the "Drop-Upload" feature was implemented
in a single afternoon by David-Sarah at The Second Tahoe-LAFS Summit.
Anyway, I'm pretty excited about the possibility of getting #954 soon.
It would be the first big addition to the vocabulary of what you can
express with Tahoe-LAFS caps.

b" I started this tutorial on "How To Write Tests": B2, because of the
increasing number of patches that are ready except for tests B3. The
tutorial is already enough to get you started, but you'll probably
come to a spot where you say "Hey NOW WHAT?". Please do that, so that
I -- or someone -- will extend the tutorial.

b" I did a lot of tinkering with packaging and build system and docs. I
care a lot about this stuff, and I hope you do too, and I could use
help, but I'm not going to explain it all in this letter because
currently new work is being done at Hack Fest faster than I'm
finishing this letter describing the work that is being done. :-) You
can find out all about it by reading the trac Timeline. One thing I
definitely need help with is building binary packages of dependencies
on various platforms, especially with Python 2.7. Please see the table
of precompiled packages hosted on tahoe-lafs.org: b
4.

b" Lebek did some wiki gardening and fixed a bug in FTP -- #1688.

b" Brian posted a fix for #1689, which is good to see as #1689 was one
of those regressions in handling of mutables that we shipped in
v1.9.x.

b" Marlowe reviewed some docs patches and resumed working on the
Tahoe-LAFS Weekly News. Yay!

b" John Dougherty posted his first review. b:

Okay, that's at least part of what we've done so far. There are still
approximately 48 hours of Hack Fest to go. Jump in!

Regards,

Zooko

B9 https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/timeline?from=03%2F31%2F12&daysback=3&authors=&ticket=on&ticket_details=on&changeset=on&milestone=on&wiki=on&update=Update
B2 https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/HowToWriteTests
B3 https://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2012-March/007205.html
b
4 https://tahoe-lafs.org/source/tahoe-lafs/deps/tahoe-lafs-dep-eggs/README.html

tickets mentioned in this email:

https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/641# tahoe backup should
be able to backup symlinks
https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/954# revocable write authority
https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/897# "tahoe backup"
thinks "ctime" means "creation time"
https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1325# make `tahoe
backup` keep more filesystem metadata
https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1688# ftpd returns 0 for
all timestamps
https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1689# assertion failure
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From natanael.l at gmail.com  Sat Mar 31 08:02:26 2012
From: natanael.l at gmail.com (natanael.l at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:02:26 +0000
Subject: [cryptography] crypto.cat
Message-ID: <mailman.3371.1576008224.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

It seems to lack verification and authorization = easy to MITM.


2012-03-31 15:49 skrev Mario Contestabile:

You guys have any cypherpunk opinions on https://crypto.cat/ ?


It's a "secure" online communication tool, apparently used by Anonymous.


It was developed by Nadim Kobeissi, (yet another Montrealer).


Mario

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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:46:52 +0530
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From eugen at leitl.org  Sat Mar 31 07:58:43 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:58:43 +0200
Subject: [cryptography] crypto.cat
Message-ID: <20120331145843.GE14482@leitl.org>

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From eugen at leitl.org  Sat Mar 31 08:11:58 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:11:58 +0200
Subject: [cryptography] crypto.cat
Message-ID: <20120331151158.GF14482@leitl.org>

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From andrew at torproject.is  Sat Mar 31 14:38:21 2012
From: andrew at torproject.is (andrew at torproject.is)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:38:21 -0400
Subject: [tor-talk] Server/host for Tor forum in Iceland or Norway?
Message-ID: <mailman.3372.1576008224.31620.cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org>

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 07:26:56AM -0700, jefheri1 at yahoo.com wrote 0.9K bytes in 13 lines about:
: I am interested in setting up a small Tor centric message board. Due to recent (and not so recent) events in U.S. Congress, E.U., and etc., I want to setup the message board in a country with strong -- and smart -- Internet privacy and security laws. As I understand matters, Iceland or Norway seem to be the best choices; is that correct? (I believe the Tor Project, or a group affiliated with them, uses servers in Iceland, but I could be mistaken)

I use servers in Iceland and did before I joined Tor. And yes,
torproject.is and tpo.is are both hosted with 1984.is. I also know
Mvrpur and Smari from 1984.is. My obvious endorsement is for 1984. They
are not the cheapest, but they are great.

Hosting relays in Iceland is expensive due to the current monopoly
arrangement on bandwidth and connections to Greenland and the
UK, see http://www.farice.is/. If planning to host tor relays in Iceland,
talk to the provider first. If you do, ISK 50,000+ monthly bills shouldn't
shock you.

Here is the writeup of my last trip to Iceland for Tor,
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/visit-iceland

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From eugen at leitl.org  Sat Mar 31 13:18:08 2012
From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 22:18:08 +0200
Subject: [tahoe-dev] Hack Fest Day One report
Message-ID: <20120331201808.GT14482@leitl.org>

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