Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Surveillance via bogus SSL certificates

R.A. Hettinga rah at shipwright.com
Wed Mar 24 13:59:00 PDT 2010


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> From: privacy at vortex.com
> Date: March 24, 2010 3:53:44 PM AST
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> Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Surveillance via bogus SSL certificates
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> ----- Forwarded message from Dave Farber <dave at farber.net> -----
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> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:34:27 -0400
> From: Dave Farber <dave at farber.net>
> Subject: [IP] Surveillance via bogus SSL certificates
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>> From: Matt Blaze <mab at crypto.com>
>> Date: March 24, 2010 3:09:19 PM EDT
>> To: Dave Farber <dave at farber.net>
>> Subject: Surveillance via bogus SSL certificates
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>> Dave,
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>> For IP if you'd like.
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>> Over a decade ago, I observed that commercial certificate authorities
>> protect you from anyone from whom they are unwilling to take money.
>> That turns out to be wrong; they don't even do that.
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>> Chris Soghoian and Sid Stamm published a paper today that describes a
>> simple "appliance"-type box, marketed to law enforcement and
>> intelligence agencies in the US and elsewhere, that uses bogus
>> certificates issued by *any* cooperative certificate authority to act as
>> a "man-in-the-middle" for encrypted web traffic.
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>> Their paper is available at http://files.cloudprivacy.net/ssl-mitm.pdf
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>> What I found most interesting (and surprising) is that this sort of
>> surveillance is widespread enough to support fairly mature, turnkey
>> commercial products.    It carries some significant disadvantages for
>> law enforcement -- most particularly it can be potentially can be
>> detected.
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>> I briefly discuss the implications of this kind of surveillance at
http://www.crypto.com/blog/spycerts/
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>> Also, Wired has a story here:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/packet-forensics/
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>> -matt
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