another seeming attack on my server's DirPort

[Tyler Durden]

In NYC it's common to see 9/11 conspiracy theorists, and I am always amazed.

Basically, if a conspiracy is out in the open, who gives a sh*t? Whether 9/11
was planned by Bushites or not, the result is a huge series of crimes and
political vandalism such that 9/11 is a footnote in comparison.

My thinking is that conspiracy theorists would rather believe that 'this was
all planned' rather than the incompentent and complete cluster f*ck it
actually is. They'd rather believe someone's in control and 'screwing us over'
rather than the reality of chaos.

I'm interested in knowing more about the China issue...having lived there in
the 80s and speaking the language (yes, Stoopid Cypherpunk Tyler Durden speaks
Chinese), I'm sometimes able to read Chinese agitprop (though I'll grant that
it's fairly easy once you get the hang of it).

-TD> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:26:15 -0500> To: eugen at leitl.org> From:
jya at pipeline.com> Subject: Re: another seeming attack on my server's DirPort>
CC: cypherpunks at al-qaeda.net; olaf.selke at blutmagie.de; or-talk at freehaven.net>
> Skepticism of the NSA-affiliation list is warranted. Just as much as>
skepticism about that NSA and its global ilk have been tapping all >
international and domestic telecommunications. > > Nobody believed that was
going on, and some ignorant fools still > disbelieve, or worse, cannot bear to
believe a technology so enjoyable > could be so violative.> > The telcos have
been screwing their customers from day one, so> why would ISPs be any
different? The Internet is a spying machine> just like the telecomms and
postal services have always been, get > used to it, or get over it, or get off
it, or give up the addiction.> > Lesson One for the conspiracy deniers: The
only true conspiracy > theorists are the spies, they could not exist unless
they kept the> natsec threats and denials achurning.> > No infosec system is
as effective as promoting that it is safe> and secure. Blind faith in the
reliability and trustworthiness of> widespread communication technology is
damn comforting.> > Preaching to the choir here, to be sure.> > At 10:22 AM
12/21/2007 +0100, you wrote:> >Paging John Young.> >> >----- Forwarded message
from Olaf Selke <olaf.selke at blutmagie.de> -----> >> >From: Olaf Selke
<olaf.selke at blutmagie.de>> >Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:42:13 +0100> >To:
or-talk at freehaven.net> >Subject: Re: another seeming attack on my server's
DirPort> >User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031)> >Reply-To:
or-talk at freehaven.net> >> >Scott Bennett wrote:> >> >> I still don't
understand the thinking of those people. I have no> reason> >> to believe that
the Chinese government is allowing the NSA to control IP> >> addresses
allocated to, and served inside, China. It makes no sense at> all,> >> and
leads me to conclude that the whole list is worthless.> >> >I do agree. The
same here. I don't believe all German major Telcos are> >NSA affiliated.> >>
>Olaf> >> >----- End forwarded message -----> >-- > >Eugen* Leitl <a
href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org>
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