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EDRI supports PI's comments on Google-Doubleclick merger 2. EU pushes for an international Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement 3. EC plans to profile all passengers in and out EU 4. Putin wants control of Russian Internet 5. Whois privacy problems not solved by ICANN 6. Government attempts of increased level of surveillance in Czech Republic 7. Open Document Format gains more support 8. Recommended Action 9. Recommended Reading 10. Agenda 11. About ============================================================ 1. EDRI supports PI's comments on Google-Doubleclick merger ============================================================ European Digital Rights Initiative (EDRI) is supporting the letter Privacy International (PI) sent on 5 November 2007 asking the head of the European Commission DG Competition, Commissioner Kroes, to take the merger of Google-Doubleclick to the next phase. PI argues that the merger could have serious implications for privacy innovation in advertising. The letter explains the problems that the merger could bring to the online advertising market: "Google's purchase of Doubleclick is particularly worrying because it is a significant consolidation in this domain and we worry that this very competition to provide high-quality privacy practices will dissipate. Google's dominant position in the search marketplace will be compounded by Doubleclick's dominant position in online profiling, leading to a potentially abusive situation for the protection of privacy. If the merger is approved, then Google's dominant service will transform radically from one with a search advertising function into one that collects both searches and browsing habits of users. " PI showed how the decision could influence privacy of the Internet users if the merger is approved : "Privacy innovation could suffer under the merger as the two largest online databases come together. Other companies will have to compete against this massive entity and we worry it will lead to a race to the bottom for privacy protection. (...) Little is actually known about how all these companies protect their customers' data, even though they must do so in accordance with European privacy laws. (...)We know little about how firms make use of this data. Google promises that it does not yet create online user profiles, but it is purchasing a firm that is renowned for the depth and extent of its online user profiles. We need strong and enforceable assurances that profiles will not be developed and enhanced through this merger." BEUC, the Consumer's Organization, as well as the Data Protection Commissioner of the German state of Shleswig-Holstein, Thilo Weichert, have publicly opposed the Google-Doubleclick deal. However, Commissioner Kroes announced on 15 October: "We are looking at the influence on competition and that's it." The new deadline for the enquiry has been set for 13 November 2007. PI Comments on Google-Doubleclick Merger to the European Commission (5.11.2007) http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-558328 EU review of Google bid won't cover privacy issue (15.10.2007) http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2191128,00.html BEUC expresses concern over DoubleClick acquisition by Google (18.07.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.14/beuc-doubleclick-google ============================================================ 2. EU pushes for an international Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement ============================================================ A recent statement from the European Commission reveals that it has started negotiations with US, Japan, Korea, Mexico and New Zealand to create an international treaty on counterfeiting - Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA), despite the absence of any independent data on the topic. The European Commission is looking for a mandate from the European Member States to proceed in this endeavour, but the ball is already rolling, taking into consideration the almost simultaneous press statements from the US Trade Representative and Canada's Minister of International Trade as well. But "while the claims regularly focus on health and safety risks or suggestions that organized crime or terrorist groups benefit from counterfeiting, the reality is that the policy prescription typically includes a range of issues that have little to do with those issues", as Michael Geist puts it. Even though the OECD estimates the losses of the international trade are 3-4 times lower than the ones the industry has so heavily promoted, the big states still have their ears open to the industry lobbists' claims. EU announces that the new ACTA should build the international cooperation leading to harmonised standards and a better communication between authorities and should establish common enforcement practices to promote strong intellectual property protection in coordination with right holders and trading partners. Also it suggests "creating a strong modern legal framework which reflects the changing nature of intellectual property theft in the global economy, including the rise of easy-to-copy digital storage mediums and the increasing danger of health threats from counterfeit food and pharmaceutical drugs." In fact, it seems that the negotiations have started since mid-2006 between the European Commission, Canada, US and Japan on such an agreement on counterfeiting. But ACTA aims higher. US Trade Representative Susan Schwab explained that the negotiations would "expand upon the enforcement standards of the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS) and countries would be encouraged to comply with other international IPR agreements. The goal is to set a new, higher benchmark for enforcement that countries can join voluntarily." Or, as Michael Geist better explains it: "This treaty could ultimately prove bigger than WIPO - without the constraints of consensus building, developing countries, and civil society groups, the ACTA could further reshape the IP landscape with tougher enforcement, stronger penalties, and a gradual eradication of the copyright and trademark balance." European Commission seeks mandate to negotiate major new international anti- counterfeiting pact (23.10.2007) http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/07/1573 Is ACTA the New WIPO? (24.10.2007) http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2318/125/ Top Economies To Negotiate Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Pact (24.10.2007) http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=799&res=1024_ff&print=0 EDRI-gram: OECD finds the real piracy losses(23.05.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.10/oecd-piracy-loss ============================================================ 3. EC plans to profile all passengers in and out EU ============================================================ The European Commission(EC) put forward on 6 November 2007 a PNR plan that is almost similar to the EU-USA PNR (Passenger Name Records) agreement. The EU PNR plan is part of a new package of proposals "aimed at improving the EU's capabilities in the fight against terrorism." According to this proposal, EU will have to collect 19 pieces of personal data on air passengers coming into and leaving the EU space, including phone number, e-mail address, travel agent, full itinerary, billing data and baggage information. The information will be collected in analysis units that will make a "risk assessment" of the traveller, which could lead to the questioning or even refusal of the entry. The data is to be kept for five years and then another eight years in a "dormant" database. "The availability of PNR data ... is necessary for the purpose of preventing and fighting terrorist offences and organised crime," is the reason expressed by the draft. In October 2007, Justice Commissioner Franco Frattini told Parliament members that the creation of a PNR database was justified by the high level of terrorist risk for Europe. "The Union is at least as much a potential target of a terrorist attack as the United States, and the use and analysis of passenger name records is an important law enforcement tool to protect our citizens". However, legal experts, human-rights groups and data-protection activists oppose this plan and find it a threat to privacy. Tony Bunyan, editor of Statewatch stated: "This is yet another measure that places everyone under surveillance and makes everyone a "suspect" without any meaningful right to know how the data is used, how it is further processed and by whom [.] We have already got the mandatory taking of fingerprints for passports and ID cards and the mandatory storage of telecommunications data of every communication, now we are to have the mandatory logging of all travel in and out of the EU. The underlying rationale for each of the measures is the same - all are needed to tackle terrorism. Yet there is little evidence that the gathering of "mountain upon mountain" of data on the activities of every person in the EU makes a significant contribution. On the other hand, the use of this data for other purposes, now or in the future, will make the EU the most surveilled place in the world". MEP Sophie in 't Veld has also made an appeal to the European Commission to make an analysis of the situation in USA and Canada in order to verify the effectiveness of such a system before taking any decision on a similar system in Europe. "EU counter-terrorism policies must be regularly assessed on their effectiveness.their impact on reducing the threat and increasing security, on improving cooperation and exchange between countries and agencies, as well as an evaluation of the cumulative impact of individual measures on privacy and civil liberties," she stated. The Commission's proposal for EU PNR is proposed as a Framework Decision meaning that the European Parliament is only consulted and its opinion can be ignored as it happens on a regular basis. The European Council can, in its secret working parties, change at will this legislative proposal. Another question raised is why 2004 Directive on the collection of API (Advance Passenger Information), meant to be applied by all member States by September 2006, is not enough in supporting the fight against terrorism and is not yet applied. The API data is more limited including only name, nationality, passport number, date of birth and the details related to the flight. The proposal did not take into consideration the opinions of EU's Article 29 Data Protection Working Party which, during the consultation period concluded that they "have not seen any information presented by the Commission that would substantiate the pressing need to process PNR data for the purpose of preventing and fighting terrorism and related crimes or law enforcement". They also stated that "Bulk transfer of personal data, which would include unsuspected travellers to other authorities would be disproportionate, as data may only be provided to an authority if necessary for a given purpose". Concerning data protection, the draft proposal has in view the Council Framework Decision on the protection of data for police and judicial cooperation that should apply to the proposed PNR scheme as well. However, the decision has not been adopted and offers very little protection to individuals. The decision ignored the opinions of the European Parliament, the European Data Protection Supervisor, and the EU's Article 29 Data Protection Working Party and allows the personal data exchange with third states such as USA. On the other hand, the draft makes no reference to 1995 EC Directive on data protection covering the collection of PNR data by the airlines. PNR (passenger name record) scheme proposed to place under surveillance all travel in and out of the EU (1.11.2007) http://www.statewatch.org/news/2007/nov/01eu-pnr.htm Draft Framework Decison on the use of PNR data (22.10.2007) http://www.statewatch.org/news/2007/oct/eu-com-pnr-proposal.pdf EU plans anti-terror screening for air passengers (5.11.2007) http://www.euractiv.com/en/transport/eu-plans-anti-terror-screening-air-passengers/article-168103 EU plans to collect personal data on air passengers (4.11.2007) http://www.reuters.com/article/asiaTopNews/idUSIndia-30328920071104 Fight Against Terrorism: stepping up Europe's capability to protect citizens against the threat of terrorism (6.11.2007) http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/07/1649&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en EDRI-gram Final agreements between EU and USA on PNR and SWIFT (4.07.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.13/eu-us-pnr-swift ============================================================ 4. Putin wants control of Russian Internet ============================================================ As the Internet use in Russia increases spectacularly, having tripled in the last three years, Putin' governance concentrates its efforts on getting control over the Russian Internet after having already gained much control over the traditional mass media. Putin's allies and supporters have created blogs and news sources to flood the Internet with messages favourable to the present political power. During a national broadcast live on TV and Radio in October 2007, Putin tackled the issue of Internet censorship. "Naturally, in this sphere, as in other spheres, we should be thinking about adhering to Russian laws, about making sure that child pornography is not distributed, that financial crimes are not committed" said Putin. Besides numerous pro-government blogs, several already established online outlets have been bought by Putin's allies with the purpose to create a network to disseminat propaganda and to control the online information. Such a publication is Gazeta.ru, the most respected online newspaper which was sold in December to a metals magnate loyal to Putin. Russian officials have also been looking for the possibility of establishing a separate Internet within Russia that would serve their purposes. The reaction of the Kremlin power comes to counterpart situation as the one having occurred in 2004 when, due to concentrated efforts of uncensored blogs and on-line publications, a popular uprising in Ukraine provoked the revoking of the vote for a pro-Moscow candidate in the presidential elections. In April 2007, when an opposition movement held a march in Moscow, blogger Pavel Danilin, a Putin supporter, together with his team, started blogging about a smaller pro-Kremlin march being held the same day. They blogged so much, and linked to each other so effectively, that they crowded out all the items about the opposition march from the very influential top-five blog post listing on the Yandex Web portal. Prosecutors have also started focussing on Internet chat sites, blogs and postings in order to charge the users that criticize Putin or other officials. However, the federal officials deny any campaign to control the Internet. "Personally, I am against developing and adopting a special law that would regulate the Internet," declared Leonid Reiman, Minister of IT&C. "The Internet has been always developing as a free medium, and it should remain as such" he added. Despite the officials' statements, in July 2007, Putin already announced his plans to create a global information technology powerhouse network, a statement that was interpreted by the mass media as an attempt from his part to establish a controlled network separated from the current Internet which is organised by ICANN. According to Wolfgang Kleinwaechter, special adviser to the chairmen of the Internet Governance Forum, some Russian officials are thinking of a separate Internet, with Cyrillic domain names, taking the example of China. Kremlin Seeks To Extend Its Reach in Cyberspace (28.10.2007) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/27/AR2007102701384.html Putin tightens his grip on Russia's internet (29.10.2007) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/29/putin_censors_internet/ ============================================================ 5. Whois privacy problems not solved by ICANN ============================================================ ICANN meeting that took place last week (29 October - 2 November 2007) in Los Angeles was expected to decide on the WHOIS database privacy problems. But unfortunately the decision taken was just to make further studies on the matter, despite the already seven years of discussions on this topic. The need for WHOIS reform has been a hot topic for some years in the civil society and some ICANN structures. An EPIC & NGO Letter to ICANN Board on Need for Whois Reform sent on 30 October 2007 asks "for changes to WHOIS services that would protect the privacy of individuals, specifically the removal of registrants' contact information from the publicly accessible WHOIS database." The letter explains that the "current ICANN WHOIS policy conflicts with national privacy laws, including the EU Data Protection Directive, which requires the establishment of a legal framework to ensure that when personal information is collected, it is used only for its intended purpose. As personal information in the directory is used for other purposes and ICANN's policy keeps the information public and anonymously accessible, the database could be found illegal according to many national privacy and data protection laws including the European Data Protection Directive, European data protection laws and legislation in Canada and Australia." Moreover, it points to the Article 29 Working Party's opinion that underlines that "in its current form the WHOIS database does not take account of the data protection and privacy rights". The NGOs supported Final Outcomes Report recently published by the WHOIS Working Group that "accepted the Operational Point of Contact (OPoC) proposal as a starting point, and the best option to date. The OPoC proposal would replace publicly available registrant contact information with an intermediate contact responsible for relaying messages to the registrant." The public letter accepted the fact that the WHOIS Working Group proposal was a workable framework and not a perfect one, recommending "a distinction between commercial and non-commercial domains." But the proposal was rejected by the ICANN, as well as another proposal that would have allowed domain name registration companies to stop making the data available through WHOIS. Instead, the ICANN decided to ask for further studies, that will be identified by the The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council until 15 February 2007. The move was seen as a new delay after seven years of discussions. Ross Rader from the GNSO said to AP: "We've had seven years of study on this issue... what has not been answered is what are the specific questions we want answers to. From my perspective, further, broad, open study is just a way for (opponents) to say you don't have enough votes to change the status quo." The lack of a concrete decision from GNSO meant a renewal of a call for a procedure to allow exemptions from ICANN standard contractual obligations for WHOIS. ICANN's Government Advisory Committee (GAC) said "uniform process" among governments was not to be expected and the specific cases should just be referred to national authorities in order to come to a procedure for the respective registries and registrars. EPIC & NGO Letter to ICANN Board on Need for Whois Reform (30.10.2007) http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/10/30/epic-ngo-letter-to-icann-board-on-need-for-whois-reform/ Whois Studies Approved, Privacy Deferred (31.10.2007) http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hCiHLmZiymo5BhARlugPCaGcTsUQD8SKFC680 Faced with clamor for WHOIS reform, ICANN votes to study the issue more (31.10.2007) http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071031-faced-with-whois-reform-icann-votes-to-study-the-issue-some-more.html Whois reform: ICANN says let's run more tests (1.11.2007) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/01/whois_reform/ Change Of Leadership At ICANN As Cerf Makes Way For IP Expert (4.11.2007) http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=807&res=&res=1024_ff&print=0 ============================================================ 6. Government attempts of increased level of surveillance in Czech Republic ============================================================ The Czech Interior Ministry introduced in October 2007 a new National Action Plan to Combat Terrorism that would increase the access of the police and intelligence authorities to personal data, under the pretext of the protection against terrorism. The Czech Ministry of Interior has introduced a similar plan every year since 2002 - in 2005 it actually won the Czech Big Brother Award for it - which, until now, has been rejected by the Parliament. The Plan of Action is meant to be used to draft legislation allowing police and other agencies to have access to emails and to wiretap without following any court procedures. "According to the current legal regulations, in order to perform certain actions it is necessary that security bodies meet a number of requirements and conditions, the existence of which is unquestionable," stated Vladimmr Repka, spokesman for the Interior Ministry. As compared to the plan proposed last year, this year's plan seems to have a much more ambiguous wording that " it is actually very difficult to argue against it" says privacy expert Filip Pospmsil from the EDRI-member Czech NGO Iuridicum Remedium. According to him, the plan is inspired from the US Patriot Act that that give the US police authorities direct access to personal data. Presently, in Czech Republic, the interception of emails and wiretapping can be done only by a court order that is valid for up to six months. "They want to have the power just to call the judge and then to get written approval later" said Pospmsil. What the Interior Ministry also wants is to force financial institutions and private Internet providers to pass on clients' information to security agencies as well as to eliminate anonymous phone cards. In Pospmsil's opinion, the present plan is meant as a test to check out on the position of the policy makers and of the public as anyway, even if approved by the government, the plan has no value if it is not passed by the Parliament. "I think it's just a kind of test by the Interior Ministry and other intelligence services to test the willingness of the public and its representatives to exchange some privacy for promises of improved security," he said. Privacy International has issued reports on the situation in the Czech Republic showing concern on the increase of the government attempts to legalise wiretapping, to create a central database from the separate databases of the security agencies as well as on the high level of video surveillance in the country, unrestricted by law. Hana Stepankova, the spokeswoman of the Office of Personal Data Protection, which is responsible for enforcing the country's privacy laws, stated that the office lawyers are presently studying the proposal. The draft plan may receive comments from the public until the end of October but there is no guarantee that the Interior Ministry will take any comments into consideration. Ministry seeks approval for terror law (24.10.2007) http://www.praguepost.com/articles/2007/10/24/ministry-seeks-approval-for-terror-law EDRI-gram: Big Brother Awards presented in 4 countries (3.11.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number3.22/BBA ============================================================ 7. Open Document Format gains more support ============================================================ The first international workshop of Open Document Format (ODF) public sector users took place in Berlin on 29-30 October 2007, hosted by the Foreign Office of the Federal Republic of Germany. The position of the German Foreign Office, as host of the event, was made very clear. The Federal Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, in his opening word, called ODF "a completely open and ISO-standardized format", considering it an "excellent basis" for "a free exchange of knowledge and information in a time of globalization". The Foreign Office has already linked its foreign missions in a network using open-source programs and shifted to OpenOffice and Linux operation systems on their laptops and has in view to extend this program to all diplomatic workstations by the middle of 2008. According to Florian Schie_l of the LiMux Project Office of Munich, where a migration to Linux is in progress, the ODF is a good tool in reducing the large range of templates and macros in the municipal government and in creating more uniform file management standards. The municipal administration of Freiburg will also implement a project for the migration of 2000 workstations from Microsoft Office 2000 to OpenOffice, relying in the future solely on ODF and PDF. ODF will also be adopted as the standard file format by all agencies and departments of Schwdbisch-Hall as Horst Brduner, IT director, stated. Germany is not the only country in favour of ODF. As expressed by Gavin Beckett of the city administration of Bristol, UK, a migration to Sun Microsystems's StarOffice is currently in progress in the city administrative offices. Mr. Beckett pointed out that the difficulty in the development of the progress is the inertia and habit of the office employees having been used Microsoft operation system for many years. "The point is to overcome deeply ingrained modes of behavior," he stated. Brazil and India are also leaders in the use of open standards in the office area. Deivi Kuhn of Serpro, a company coordinating the use of open source in Brazil, declared that ODF standard adopted by the International Organization for Standardization, a good tool providing both access to knowledge and ensuring user freedoms, was mandatory for e-government state interoperability standards. In India, in the federal state of Assam, PCs with Linux and OpenOffice were given to students and the migration to open source software was in progress in government offices. German Foreign Office comes out in favor of Open Document Format (30.10.2007) http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/98208 ODF Workshop (29-30.10.2007) http://www.odfworkshop.org/ EDRI-gram: OOXML - negative vote at International Organization for Standardization (12.09.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.17/ooxml-rejected-iso ============================================================ 8. Recommended Action ============================================================ Privacy International in a coalition with over 50 other organisations from around the world, including EDRI, is in the process of appealing for the imminent implementation of the Immigration Control and Refugee Recognition Act by the Japan's Ministry of Justice. The act will make fingerprint and face-scan compulsory for Japan's visitors and foreign residents. The campaign will be launched later this week. If any organisation wants to endorse this privacy campaign, please contact as soon as possible Gus Hosein - Privacy International - gus at privacy.org. ============================================================ 9. Recommended Reading ============================================================ Big Brother Eyes German Journalists http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0%2C1518%2C514872%2C00.html ENISA Position Paper : Security Issues and Recommendations for Online Social Networks (25.10.2007) Social Networking is like a 'digital cocktail party': a powerful mixture of human social instincts and web 2.0 technology which is revolutionising the Internet. In this position paper, ENISA emphasises the many benefits of Social Networking but identifies 14 important threats. This leads to 17 recommendations on how Social Networking can be made safer. http://www.enisa.europa.eu/doc/pdf/deliverables/enisa_pp_social_networks.pdf ============================================================ 10. Agenda ============================================================ 9 November 2007, St. Gallen, Switzerland Big Brother Awards Switzerland http://bigbrotherawards.ch/ 11 November 2007, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil GigaNet'07 - Global Internet Governance Academic Network 2nd Annual Symposium http://www.igloo.org/giganet 12-15 November 2007, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil The Government of Brazil will host the second Internet Governance Forum meeting. http://www.intgovforum.org/ http://cgi.br/igf/ 15-16 November 2007, Lisbon, Portugal On RFID: The Next step to the Internet of Things http://www.rfid-outlook.pt/ 16-18 November 2007, Munich, Germany 20 years of grassroot networks - 20 years /Cl-Network in Germany Congress on Networking of alternative media, privacy, environment, anti-nuclear, antifascism, peace and human rights http://www.cl-netz.de/cl-netz/20-jahre-datennetze-von-unten-20-jahre-cl-netz 21 November 2007, London, UK Privacy enhancing technologies: How to create a trusted information society http://www.petsfinebalance.com/index.php 29-30 November 2007, Skopje, Macedonia The International Conference e-Society.Mk on inclusive e-Government http://www.e-society.org.mk 3-4 December 2007, Bonn, Germany Network Neutrality - Implications for Europe http://www.wik.org/content/netneutrality_main.htm 4-5 December 2007, Rome, Italy First QualiPSo Conference - Fostering trust and quality of Open Source Software systems http://www.qualipso.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=63&Itemid=64 5-7 December 2007, Pisa, Italy Second DELOS Conference on Digital Libraries http://www.delos.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=606&Itemid=337 17 January 2008, London, UK Nanotechnology for security and the crime prevention III http://www.nano.org.uk/events/ionevents.htm#security ============================================================ 11. 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AT&T, a class-action suit pending in federal court in San Francisco, as well as 37 other lawsuits charging carriers with illegally collaborating with the NSA. He was accompanied yesterday by lawyers for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which filed Hepting v. AT&T in 2006. Together, they are urging key U.S. senators to oppose a pending White House-endorsed immunity provision that would effectively wipe out the lawsuits. The Judiciary Committee is expected to take up the measure Thursday. In summer 2002, Klein was working in an office responsible for Internet equipment when an NSA representative arrived to interview a management-level technician for a special job whose details were secret. "That's when my antennas started to go up," he said. He knew that the NSA was supposed to work on overseas signals intelligence. The job entailed building a "secret room" in an AT&T office 10 blocks away, he said. By coincidence, in October 2003, Klein was transferred to that office and assigned to the Internet room. He asked a technician there about the secret room on the 6th floor, and the technician told him it was connected to the Internet room a floor above. The technician, who was about to retire, handed him some wiring diagrams. "That was my 'aha!' moment," Klein said. "They're sending the entire Internet to the secret room." The diagram showed splitters, glass prisms that split signals from each network into two identical copies. One fed into the secret room, the other proceeded to its destination, he said. "This splitter was sweeping up everything, vacuum-cleaner-style," he said. "The NSA is getting everything. These are major pipes that carry not just AT&T's customers but everybody's." One of Klein's documents listed links to 16 entities, including Global Crossing, a large provider of voice and data services in the United States and abroad; UUNet, a large Internet provider in Northern Virginia now owned by Verizon; Level 3 Communications, which provides local, long-distance and data transmission in the United States and overseas; and more familiar names such as Sprint and Qwest. It also included data exchanges MAE-West and PAIX, or Palo Alto Internet Exchange, facilities where telecom carriers hand off Internet traffic to each other. "I flipped out," he said. "They're copying the whole Internet. There's no selection going on here. Maybe they select out later, but at the point of handoff to the government, they get everything." Qwest has not been sued because of media reports last year that said the company declined to participate in an NSA program to build a database of domestic phone-call records out of concern about its legality. 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(maybe RSS isn't all > that great?) > > Note that the MLAT is actually between the US and Canada, and This is clearly something I missed - and the "MLAT" term was what set of my "Holy Shit" sensor. > according to > http://travel.state.gov/law/info/judicial/judicial_690.html, it's been > in effect since Jan. 24, 1990. So while Hushmail is pwned, it's pwned > by Canada, which is in turn pwned by the US. But then, a difference > which makes no difference isn't really a difference. I'm just glad I > never used/trusted Hush. I am shocked that Hush appears to have been in a position to have provided the requesting authority with actual *content* of a Hush user account: my prior belief was that this was non-possible. The pwnage of this alone is staggering in scope if correct. Anyone from Hush care to entertain us with an explanation of why this interpretation is incorrect? -- Yours, J.A. 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[Follow the link above to get the links to these court documents. --gnu] * Read file 1, Sept. 29, 2006 (PDF, 46 pages). * Read file 2, Oct. 31, 2005 (PDF, 84 pages). * Read file 3, Jan. 4, 2007 (PDF, 10 pages). * Read file 4, Oct. 31, 2006 (PDF, 25 pages). * Read file 5, Jan. 22, 2007 (PDF, 3 pages). * Read file 6, Feb. 20, 2007 (PDF, 25 pages). * Read file 7, May 25, 2007 (PDF, 12 pages). Recent revelations about former Qwest chief executive Joe Nacchio's classified-information defense, which went unheard during his insider-trading trial, are feeding the furor over the government's warrantless-wiretapping program. Nacchio alleges the National Security Agency asked Qwest to participate in a program the phone company thought was illegal more than six months before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according to court documents unsealed at the request of The Denver Post. Nacchio also maintains that when he refused to participate, the government retaliated by not awarding lucrative contracts to Qwest. Previously sealed transcripts released at the same time as the court documents indicate the government was prepared to counter Nacchio's claims. Though specifics about the wiretapping program were redacted from the court documents, Nacchio's attorney Herbert Stern said in May 2006 that Nacchio rejected requests from the government for customers' phone records in fall 2001. The recently unsealed documents push that time frame back to February 2001 and indicate the NSA may have also sought to monitor customers' Internet traffic and fax transmissions. Nacchio's claims could affect President Bush's controversial efforts to grant legal immunity to large telecommunications companies such as AT&T, which has been sued in connection with the surveillance program. "The Nacchio materials suggesting that the NSA had sought telco cooperation even before 9/11 undermines the primary argument for letting the phone companies off the hook, which is the claim that they were simply acting in good faith to help the president fight the terrorists after 9/11," said Kevin Bankston, a staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil-liberties group. "The fact that these materials suggest that cooperation with the program was tied to the award of certain government contracts also contradicts their (phone companies') claims that they were simply acting in good faith to help fight the terrorists when it appears that they may have been motivated by financial concerns instead," Bankston said. Up to this point, discussions on Capitol Hill over telecom immunity have focused on government surveillance efforts spurred by the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. "This is, sooner or later, going to be the stuff of congressional hearings because a new starting point has been established for this controversy. A new starting point seven months before 9/11," said Ron Suskind, author of "The One Percent Doctrine," which reported examples of how companies worked with the government in its fight against terrorism after Sept. 11. "The idea that deals were getting cut between the government and telecom companies in secret in the early part of 2001 creates a whole new discussion as to intent, motivation and goals of the government," Suskind said. Last week, Rep. John Conyers Jr., D-Mich., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, asked federal intelligence officials for more information about Nacchio's allegations. "The extent to which this is true could shed light on the efficacy of this program and raise questions about the reasons behind its implementation," Conyers wrote on his blog. For his part, Nacchio wanted to introduce the claims to show he didn't sell Qwest stock illegally in early 2001. The government alleged Nacchio dumped Qwest stock because he had inside information that the Denver company's financial health was deteriorating. He was convicted on 19 counts of insider trading in April after a month-long trial and sentenced to six years in prison. He remains free on $2 million bond pending his appeal, which, among other charges, is challenging rulings U.S. District Judge Edward Nottingham made related to the classified-information defense. Nacchio has maintained he was upbeat about Qwest because he had top-secret information that the company would receive hundreds of millions in government contracts. But Nacchio didn't call any witnesses to back up that contention after Nottingham denied his requests to present evidence about the alleged retaliation. Nacchio's connections to top-secret agencies date back to late 1997, according to court documents filed in 2000 and early 2001 and unsealed this month. The first meeting Nacchio had with officials from a clandestine agency - including a three-star lieutenant general - was at Qwest's offices in Denver. The officials sought to use Qwest's fiber-optic communications network for government purposes. The agency issued a request for information after the meeting and "quickly concluded that only Qwest had the capability to fulfill the contract requirements." It eventually wanted Qwest to extend its European network to the Middle East. Qwest's work was "sufficiently important to (blacked out) that the agency would constantly monitor Qwest's financial health, particularly after the dot-com bubble burst." The agency would call Qwest whenever its stock fluctuated, and even voiced concerns to the company about a potential takeover bid by Deutsche Telekom, Nacchio alleges in the court documents. 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Mr. Stewart, a top researcher for Atlanta-based Internet security firm SecureWorks Inc., says most of the scammed executives declined requests to discuss their experience. He says they include senior executives at Fortune 500 companies, working in industries from airlines and banks to manufacturing and pharmaceuticals. The number of those affected is likely in the thousands. In May, Mr. Stewart, who works closely with law enforcement, says he found one cache of data stolen by the scam from more than 1,400 executives. News of the con, which specifically targeted intended victims with personalized emails, quickly swept through the nation's Internet security ranks. This scammer "knew your name, your title and your organization," says Jose Nazario, a researcher in the Ann Arbor, Mich., office of Arbor Networks Inc., an Internet security company. In the early days of the Internet, hackers broke into large computer systems just to prove they could. 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Using an archival Web tool, Mr. Stewart in mid-June found an actual photo of "Raynor" attached to the site at the time. It shows a glowering young man standing in what appears to be a computer room, with tiled walls and a bank of computer terminals behind him. He has dark, heavy eyebrows, jet-black bangs hanging over his face and a holstered gun strapped over his shoulder. Mr. Stewart forwarded his collected evidence to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The agency in recent years has stationed agents in Romania and more than 60 other countries to follow up on such leads. "We are in an electronic arms race," says Shawn Henry, deputy assistant director of the FBI's cyber-crime division. "Every time our technology catches up with the latest [malicious software], the bad guys come up with another way to get in." He declined to comment on whether the agency is investigating Raynor. The person using that screen name did not respond to an email seeking comment. The scam is still circulating -- one week last month SecureWorks detected 8,323 such emails -- though it is likely being done by copycats. The scam has also taken other forms, including an email that purported to be from the Internet Revenue Service informing recipients they are being investigated for tax fraud. Another version sent a phony invoice for services rendered. Raynor's Advantage Raynor's biggest advantage: lack of awareness, since most of its victims are too embarrassed to go public. Patrick Boegel, an executive with an advertising company in Albany, N.Y., called Media Logic, discovered the scam software on his computer after Mr. Stewart contacted him. Mr. Boegel didn't believe it at first, but eventually was able to determine that several things were compromised, including log-in information for email and other Web sites, including a photo gallery site. Initially willing to discuss his experience, Mr. Boegel later declined, citing "company policy." Mr. Boegel was lucky. His data was found by Mr. Stewart, and he was told what was happening. Nobody -- except perhaps Raynor -- knows how many executives were ensnared, how much data stolen, or the financial toll. Mr. Stewart's pursuit continues. Late last month, Mr. Stewart found the Romanian had come up with a new idea: sending infected emails purportedly from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission telling recipients a harassment complaint was filed against them. This week, Raynor was sending as many as 1,000 such emails to SecureWorks clients each day. -- ----------------- R. A. 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While domestic strife between majority and minority populations has been an enduring feature of democratic and indeed all societies throughout history, the current turbulence constitutes a unique challenge to the nation-state system. This is because much of the internal strife between minority and majority populations within states today is financed and often directed from outside the country. Traditionally, minorities used various local means to engage the majority population in a bid to influence the political direction or cultural norms of the nation state. The classic examples of this traditional minority-majority engagement are the black civil rights movement in the US in the 1960s and the labor movements in the West throughout the 20th century. By and large, these movements were domestic protests informed by national sensibilities even when they enjoyed the support of foreign governments. Today while similar movements continue to flourish, they are now being superseded by a new type of minority challenge to national majorities. This challenge is not primarily the result of domestic injustice but the consequence of foreign agitation. The roots of these minority challenges are found outside the borders of the targeted states. And their goals are not limited to a call for the reform of national institutions and politics. Rather they set their sights on weakening national institutions and eroding national sovereignty. MUSLIM MINORITIES throughout the world are being financed and ideologically trained in Saudi and UAE funded mosques and Islamic centers. These minorities act in strikingly similar manners in the countries where they are situated throughout the world. On the one hand, their local political leaders demand extraordinary communal rights, rights accorded neither to the national majority nor to other minority populations. On the other hand, Muslim neighborhoods, particularly in Europe, but also in Israel, the Philippines and Australia, are rendered increasingly ungovernable as arms of the state like the police and tax authorities come under attack when they attempt to assert state power in these Muslim communities. Logic would have it that targeted states would respond to the threat to their authority through a dual strategy. On the one hand, they would firmly assert their authority by enforcing their laws against both individual lawbreakers and against subversive, foreign financed institutions that incite the overthrow of their governments and their replacement with Islamic governments. On the other hand, they would seek out and empower local Muslims who accept the authority and legitimacy of their states and their rule of law. Unfortunately, with the notable exception of the Howard government in Australia, in country after country, governments respond to this challenge by attempting to appease Muslim irredentists and their state sponsors. The British responded to the July 7, 2005 bombings by giving representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood an official role in crafting and carrying out counter-terror policies. In 2003, then French president Jacques Chirac sent then interior minister Nicholas Sarkozy to Egypt to seek the permission of Sheikh Mohammed Tantawi of the Islamist al-Azhar mosque for the French parliament's plan to outlaw hijabs in French schools. In the US, in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, the FBI asked the terror-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations to conduct sensitivity training for FBI agents. In Holland last year, the Dutch government effectively expelled anti-Islamist politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali in the interest of currying favor with Holland's restive Muslim minority. THE FOREIGN policy aspect of the rush to appease is twofold. First, targeted states refuse to support one another when individual governments attempt to use the tools of law enforcement to handle their domestic jihad threat. For instance, European states have harshly criticized the US Patriot Act while the US criticized the French decision to prohibit the hijab in public schools. More acutely, targeted states lead the charge in calling for the establishment of Muslim-only states. Today the US and the EU are leading the charge towards the establishment of a Palestinian state and the creation of an independent state of Kosovo. 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As Fatah leader and Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and his colleagues have made clear, while they are willing to accept Israel's concessions, they are not willing to accept Israel. This is why they refuse to acknowledge Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state. A rare consensus exists today in Israel. From the far-left to the far-right, from IDF Military Intelligence to the Mossad, all agree that the Annapolis conference will fail to bring a peace accord. Since Rice's approach to reaching just such an accord has been to apply unrelenting pressure on Israel, it is fairly clear that she will blame Israel for the conference's preordained failure and cause a further deterioration in US-Israeli relations. While Israel is supposed to accept a Jew-free Palestine, it goes without saying that its own 20 percent Arab minority will continue to enjoy the full rights of Israeli citizenship. Yet one of the direct consequences of the establishment of a Jew-free, pro-jihadist State of Palestine will be the further radicalization of Israeli Arabs. They will intensify their current rejection of Israel's national identity. With Palestinian and outside support, they will intensify their irredentist activities and so exert an even more devastating attack on Israel's sovereignty and right to national self-determination. SHORTLY AFTER the Annapolis conference fails, and no doubt in a bid to buck up its standing with the Arab world, the US may well stand by its stated intention to recognize the independence of Kosovo. On December 10, the UN-sponsored troika from the US, Russia and Germany is due to present their report on the ongoing UN-sponsored negotiations between the Kosovo Muslims and the Serbian government regarding the future of the restive province of Serbia. Since the Kosovo Muslims insist on full sovereignty and Serbia's government refuses to accept Kosovo's independence, those talks are deadlocked. Since Russia refuses to support Kosovo's removal from Serbia, there is no chance that the UN Security Council will pass a resolution calling for Kosovar independence. The push for Kosovar independence was begun by the Clinton administration. It was the natural consequence of the NATO bombing of Serbia in 1999. Yet the basic assumptions of that bombing campaign have been turned on their head in recent years. In 1999, Serbia was run by a murderous dictator Slobodan Milosovic. He stood accused of ethnically cleansing Kosovo of its Muslim population which was perceived as innocent. Today, led by Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica, Serbia is taking bold steps towards becoming a liberal democracy which abjures ethnic cleansing and political violence. On the other hand, the Saudi-financed Kosovo Muslims have destroyed more than 150 churches over the past several years, and have terrorized Kosovar Christians and so led to their mass exodus from the province. As Julia Gorin documented in a recent article here, in Jewish World Review, Kosovo's connections with Albanian criminal syndicates and global jihadists are legion. Moreover, Kosovar independence would likely spur irredentist movements among the Muslim minorities in all Balkan states. In Macedonia for instance, a quarter of the population is Muslim. These irredentist movements in turn would increase Muslim irredentism throughout Europe just as Palestinian statehood will foment an intensification of the Islamization of Israel's Arab minority. The Kosovo government announced last month that given the diplomatic impasse, it plans to declare its independence next month. 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Hettinga) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:18:39 -0500 Subject: [gsc] Metaphors in IP 'Property' Dangerous Obfuscation In-Reply-To: <20071114132135.GA12200@rant-central.com> References: <832223320711140120oad87081n4864e906a9604ede@mail.gmail.com> <20071114132135.GA12200@rant-central.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 9:20 AM +0000 11/14/07, Darren Rhodes wrote: >From ... >http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2007/11/metaphors-and-moral-panics.html At 8:21 AM -0500 11/14/07, Roy M. Silvernail wrote: >I'd say it's only property if you can control who else touches it. Bingo. In the case of "intellectual" property, which is, for the most part, merely software(1), Hettinga's First "Law" Of Property applies: if its encrypted and I control the key, it's my property. The point is, if it's not encrypted, floating around in the clear, publicly, on an increasingly ubiquitous geodesic internetwork, it is, physically, *anybody's* property, no matter how many laws they pass to say it ain't so. No legislation is going to prevent someone from using it. Note that invoking "profitability" is a circular argument here, as all use is, by definition, profitable: that is, an increase in marginal utility, whoever's numeraire you chose to measure it with. (1) Using Nobel Laureate Gary Becker's(?) definition of "software" as information which can be copied, "hardware" being atoms of various kinds, and "wetware" being operating the stuff between your ears, actual neurons firing in real-time: expertise, opinion, talent, knowledge, wisdom, etc., whatever you want to call it... Cheers, RAH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.0.6 (Build 6060) iQA/AwUBRzsXd8PxH8jf3ohaEQKhQgCfcD2ipkn5XLwTqQM9AuPSqJ+ttLwAn0Vo a5/SsHjTJYvAj0dqJRDN+SwK =DatZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' From rah at shipwright.com Wed Nov 14 10:19:50 2007 From: rah at shipwright.com (R.A. Hettinga) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:19:50 -0500 Subject: [gsc] Metaphors in IP 'Property' Dangerous Obfuscation In-Reply-To: References: <832223320711140120oad87081n4864e906a9604ede@mail.gmail.com> <20071114132135.GA12200@rant-central.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 8:21 AM -0500 11/14/07, Roy M. Silvernail wrote: >I'd say it's only property if you can control who else touches it. At 1:27 PM +0000 11/14/07, JP May wrote: >OK, so under that system real estate is out. copyright and patent is >out. All contractual agreeemnts and the like are out. Nonsense. You can establish cryptographic control of all the above. I can have a cryptographic key that operates a car, a lock to a house, I can produce a cryptographically signed document between two keys which a third key can use to execute a change of ownership from one key to another. Notice that "identity" is not required in any of those examples. >Any sort of title (say, share ownership, bank accounts etc) is totally >out. The above is *particularly* applicable to share ownership, access to book-entry accounts, etc. It's called "financial cryptography". :-). >Your body (ie, your own "right" not to be killed or beaten) is totally >out. Rights are protected by force. The three "F"'s are in play here (physics causes finance causes philosophy). Call me an existential materialist, if you want, hell, call me anything you want except late for dinner... :-) "Rights" are merely the logical consistencies we use to justify how things happen. And logic is not reality, for instance, logic cannot be both . >"In hand" property (like "this is my apple" / "this is my >volkswagen") is completely out for large things (cars, trees, etc). See above. You can hire people to protect your property. >Perhaps small physical objects such as plums, pebbles. iPods. > >So, property only applies to plums, pebbles, iPods and other small >physical objects. Dice, screwdrivers, etc. digital bearer certificates representing micrograms of precious metals, digital copies of movies, songs, digital instructions for numerically-controlled machine tools, surgery procedures, robotic vehicle and dwelling assembly, etc., tele-operated surgery, or bull-dozery, for that matter... ;-) In short, anything that can be digitized and sent over a wire can be bought, or sold, for cash in instantaneously-cleared auction markets. That's property. Anything in meatspace can be either registered with bearer title, anonymously, with a third party, or, if it's mobile, simply controlled by a digital key. And force can be hired, for cash, in auction markets, to protect it. Remember, finally, that the value of all commodities has been falling, relative to anything else, since the advent of agriculture, and exponentially since the advent of mechanization. Furthermore, the price of manufactured goods has been falling, exponentially, since the advent of digital automation. The transaction costs of financial information, goods, and services, has been falling exponentially since the advent of geodesic communication, and the prices of information goods in general have fallen even faster than the transaction costs of financial instruments. Bittorent, for instance, reduces the cost of information distribution to the very threshold of accounting non-materiality, measured on a per-capita basis. Barely above the cost of bandwidth, storage, and computation. Cheers, RAH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.0.6 (Build 6060) iQA/AwUBRzs8G8PxH8jf3ohaEQLVIACeJOfMPJgY9ZmoQcRTbN7b6I9G50AAn3mz ovf8ZZxPgJY0bQiP/PaLJPFH =Z3r8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' From rah at shipwright.com Wed Nov 14 10:37:51 2007 From: rah at shipwright.com (R.A. Hettinga) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:37:51 -0500 Subject: VeriSign to Slim Down, Sharpen Its Focus Message-ID: The Wall Street Journal VeriSign to Slim Down, Sharpen Its Focus Ten of 15 Business Units May Go in Big Overhaul; Perils of Diversification By BOBBY WHITE November 14, 2007; Page A12 VeriSign Inc., a Silicon Valley company that plays a central role in Internet transactions, has been criticized on Wall Street for branching off into new ventures with little payoff. Now, the company is planning to prune. The Mountain View, Calif., company is set to announce during an analyst meeting today that it plans to divest itself of as many as 10 of its 15 business units as part of a corporate overhaul. Depending on its final decisions, VeriSign may emerge with only three major businesses, including its core Internet name registry and e-commerce security units. The businesses are part of its Internet-services group, which in the third quarter accounted for around 60% of its $373.6 million in revenue. In addition, the company is making a bet that online-identity protection will be an expanding business and plans to keep it. The majority of the business units it plans to shed will come from VeriSign's underperforming communications-services group, which accounted for about a third of its third-quarter revenue. Businesses it will look to divest itself of include billing services for wireless carriers, communications consulting and other services. The company also is weighing whether to keep its telecommunication-messaging and content-delivery units, which also are part of the communications-services group. Both businesses operate in growing markets, but executives are worried about costs to remain competitive. The company plans to evaluate over the next six months whether to keep the businesses. "We are, in effect, starting all over again," said Todd Johnson, VeriSign's vice president of broadband-content services, who is part of a team overseeing the process. "We want to signal to the market we are taking a different approach to how we grow the business." Company executives declined to estimate the financial impact of the restructuring. VeriSign executives said the company is in talks with private-equity firms and wireless-phone companies that could buy some of the units. The company said it expects to shut down some of the businesses if buyers aren't found. The divestitures are expected to be completed by the first half of 2009. VeriSign's moves are the latest example of a Silicon Valley company that stumbled in trying to integrate businesses purchased in an effort to expand, like Symantec Corp.'s 2004 acquisition of Veritas Software Corp. and several other deals. The company, founded in 1995, was formed largely around the idea of selling what are called digital certificates to help Internet users prove their identities. It also operates a central directory of Internet domain names, including all those ending with the suffixes .com, .net, .cc and .tv. Stratton Sclavos, VeriSign's longtime chief executive, launched an acquisition spree, paying about $1.5 billion for 15 tech-related businesses between 2004 and 2006, estimates First Analysis Securities Corp., an investment-banking firm in Chicago. In the second quarter of 2005, after the company reported a drop in quarterly earnings that reflected a shortfall in its mobile-ring-tone business, the company's stock fell 16% in a single trading session. Analysts saw little synergy between some of the units, as well as problems integrating the companies. "It was really unclear as to just what was this company's direction," said Shaul Eyal, an analyst with CIBC World Markets. This May, Mr. Sclavos resigned amid concerns over the company's strategy, without comment. He was succeeded by VeriSign board member William A. Roper Jr. In August, founder D. James Bidzos, its first president and CEO and a former chairman, was given the role of chairman again. Mr. Roper signaled that the company would conduct a review of operations. The potential changes contributed to a boost in VeriSign's share price, which is up 38% since the start of 2007. In the third quarter, the company reported that profit rose 24% to $19 million, or eight cents a share, but revenue declined 5.8%. Mr. Roper said that with so many divergent businesses and teams fighting for resources, the company had lacked a coherent focus. "I think it was Clint Eastwood that said it best: 'A man has got to know his limitations.' I don't think we did," said Mr. Roper. "After all of this, I think we are headed in the right direction." -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' From measl at mfn.org Wed Nov 14 11:48:39 2007 From: measl at mfn.org (J.A. 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Patrick Gray investigates the most sensational hack of 2007. IT WASN'T supposed to be this easy. Swedish hacker Dan Egerstad had infiltrated a global communications network carrying the often-sensitive emails of scores of embassies scattered throughout the world. It had taken him just minutes, using tools freely available for download on the internet. He says he broke no laws. In time, Egerstad gained access to 1000 high-value email accounts. He would later post 100 sets of sensitive email logins and passwords on the internet for criminals, spies or just curious teenagers to use to snoop on inter-governmental, NGO and high-value corporate email. The question on everybody's lips was: how did he do it? The answer came more than a week later and was somewhat anti-climactic. The 22-year-old Swedish security consultant had merely installed free, open-source software - called Tor - on five computers in data centres around the globe and monitored it. Ironically, Tor is designed to prevent intelligence agencies, corporations and computer hackers from determining the virtual - and physical - location of the people who use it. "Tor is like having caller ID blocking for your internet address," says Shava Nerad, development director with the Tor Project. "All it does is hide where you're communicating from." Tor was developed by the US Navy to allow personnel to conceal their locations from websites and online services they would access while overseas. By downloading the simple software, personnel could hide the internet protocol address of their computers - the tell-tale number that allows website operators or intelligence services to determine a user's location. Eventually the navy realised it must take Tor beyond the armed forces. "The problem is, if you make Tor a tool that's only used by the military . . . by using Tor you're advertising that you're military," Nerad says. So Tor was cast into the public domain. It is now maintained and distributed by a registered charity as an open-source tool that anyone can freely download and install. Hundreds of thousands of internet users have installed Tor, according to the project's website. Mostly it is workers who want to browse pornographic websites anonymously. "If you analyse the traffic, it's just porn," Egerstad told Next by phone from Sweden. "It's kind of sad." However, Dmitri Vitaliev, a Russian-born, Australian-educated computer security professional who lives in Canada, says Tor is a vital tool in the fight for democracy. Vitaliev trains human-rights campaigners on how to stay safe when online in oppressive regimes. "It's incredibly important," he said in a Skype chat from the unrecognised state of Transnistria, a breakaway region in Moldova where he's assisting a local group working to stop the trafficking of women. "Anonymity is a high advantage in countries that perform targeted surveillance on activists." It's also used to bypass website censorship in more than 20 countries that censor political and human rights sites, he says. Tor works by connecting its users' internet requests, randomly, to volunteer-run Tor network nodes. Anyone can run a Tor node, which relays the user's traffic through other nodes as encrypted data that can't be intercepted. When the user's data reaches the edge of the Tor network, after bouncing through several nodes, it pops out the other side as unencrypted, readable data. Egerstad was able to get his mitts on sensitive information by running an exit node and monitoring the traffic that passed through it. The problem, says Vitaliev, is some Tor users assume their data is protected from end to end. "As in pretty much any other internet technology, its vulnerabilities are not well understood by those who use it (and) need it most," he says. The discovery that sensitive, government emails were passing through Tor exit nodes as unencrypted, readable data was only mildly surprising to Egerstad. It made sense - because Tor documentation mentions "encryption", many users assume they're safe from all snooping, he says. "People think they're protected just because they use Tor. Not only do they think it's encrypted, but they also think 'no one can find me'," Egerstad says. "But if you've configured your computer wrong, which probably more than 50 per cent of the people using Tor have, you can still find the person (on) the other side." Initially it seemed that government, embassy, NGO and corporate staffers were using Tor but had misconfigured their systems, allowing Egerstad to sniff sensitive information off the wire. After Egerstad posted the passwords, blame for the embarrassing breach was initially placed on the owners of the passwords he had intercepted. However, Egerstad now believes the victims of his experiment may not have been using Tor. It's quite possible he stumbled on an underground intelligence gathering exercise, carried out by parties unknown. "The whole point of the story that has been forgotten, and I haven't said much about it, (is that) many of these accounts had been compromised," he says. "The logins I caught were not legit users but actual hackers who'd been reading these accounts." In other words, the people using Tor to access embassy email accounts may not have been embassy staff at all. Egerstad says they were computer hackers using Tor to hide their origins from their victims. The cloaking nature of Tor is appealing in the extreme to computer hackers of all persuasions - criminal, recreational and government sponsored. If it weren't for the "last-hop" exit node issue Egerstad exposed in such a spectacular way, parties unknown would still be rifling the inboxes of embassies belonging to dozens of countries. Diplomatic memos, sensitive emails and the itineraries of government staffers were all up for grabs. After a couple of months sniffing and capturing information, Egerstad was faced with a moral dilemma: what to do with all the intercepted passwords and emails. If he turned his findings over to the Swedish authorities, his experiment might be used by his country's intelligence services to continue monitoring the compromised accounts. That was a little too close to espionage for his liking. So Egerstad set about notifying the affected governments. He approached a few, but the only one to respond was Iran. "They wanted to know everything I knew," he says. "That's the only response I got, except a couple of calls from the Swedish security police, but that was pretty much all the response I got from any authority." Frustrated by the lack of a response, Egerstad's next step caused high anxiety for government staffers - and perhaps intelligence services - across the globe. He posted 100 email log-ins and passwords on his blog, DEranged Security. "I just ended up (saying) 'Screw it, I'm just going to put it online and see what happens'." The news hit the internet like a tonne of bricks, despite some initial scepticism. The email logins were quickly and officially acknowledged by some countries as genuine, while others were independently verified. US-based security consultant - and Tor user - Sam Stover says he has mixed feelings about Egerstad's actions. "People all of a sudden (said) 'maybe Tor isn't the silver bullet that we thought it was'," Stover says. "However, I'm not sure I condone the mechanism by which that sort of information had to be exposed in order to do that." Stover admits that he, too, once set up a Tor exit node. "It's pretty easy . . . I set it up once real quick just to make sure that I could see other people's traffic and, sure enough, you can," he says. "(But) I'm not interested in that sort of intelligence gathering." While there's no direct evidence, it's possible Egerstad's actions shut down an active intelligence-gathering exercise. Wired.com journalist Kim Zetter blogged the claims of an Indian Express reporter that he was able to access the email account for the Indian ambassador in China and download a transcript of a meeting between the Chinese foreign minister and an Indian official. In addition to hackers using Tor to hide their origins, it's plausible that intelligence services had set up rogue exit nodes to sniff data from the Tor network. "Domestic, or international . . . if you want to do intelligence gathering, there's definitely data to be had there," says Stover. "(When using Tor) you have no idea if some guy in China is watching all your traffic, or some guy in Germany, or a guy in Illinois. You don't know." Egerstad is circumspect about the possible subversion of Tor by intelligence agencies. 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Cheers, RAH ------ The Boston Globe Companies use debit cards to pay workers By Anick Jesdanun, AP Internet Writer | November 14, 2007 NEW YORK --Paying employees and contractors around the world can be an expensive hassle, after accounting for wire transfer fees and delays when checks are mailed. A New York company is promoting a new option: plastic. Payoneer Inc. is issuing prepaid cards through MasterCard. After obtaining the card, the recipient gets subsequent payments instantly and electronically. As any debit card can, Payoneer cards can be used to buy things or withdraw cash from ATMs in a local currency. And ATM fees, the company says, are often lower than wire transfer fees, and some employers will subsidize new costs their workers incur. Getty Images Inc.'s iStockphoto is among the early customers and plans to make the Payoneer cards an option for paying photographers commissions on images sold through its site. 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I questioned a few assumptions also, but it isn't any worse than the average mainstream press story on Tor. denoument: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/11/swedish-researc.html The plot sickens. I have just gotten to the point, personally, where I don't consider DE a credible source. Without going back and triple checking, but from memory... First he says he set up filters for his content but didn't examine it, then he reflects on how much of it was porn and apparently examined it closely enough to see that people were fetching it to their offices. He said earlier that he hadn't violated wiretap laws because none of his servers were in the US; now apparently at least one was. *shrug* I have no idea how to judge his account of his arrest, or how credible nods about Hong Kong might be. I am sorry that happened to anyone, though. Yrs, -- Shava Nerad shava at efn.org --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. 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Message-ID: --- begin forwarded text From measl at mfn.org Thu Nov 15 10:30:04 2007 From: measl at mfn.org (J.A. Terranson) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:30:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: Possible backdoor in FIPS SP 800-90 PRNG (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:08:05 -0800 (PST) From: Hal Finney To: cryptography at metzdowd.com Subject: Possible backdoor in FIPS SP 800-90 PRNG Slashdot this morning has a posting about the possibility of a back door in the elliptic curve random number generator in FIPS SP 800-90. http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/15/184204 has links to an article by Bruce Schneier at wired.com, the standard, and the presentation with the new result. The work is by Dan Shumow and Niels Ferguson and was presented at the Crypto 2007 rump session. Basically there are two elliptic curve points, and if you know the discrete logarithm of one relative to the other, you can reverse engineer the internal state just from the RNG outputs. It's a very nice piece of analysis. The problem is that NIST publishes a pair of points that they suggest you use, in Appendix A.1, without giving any hint of how they were derived. This leaves open the possibility that they were selected in such a way as to exploit the Shumow/Ferguson back door. Now, here's the strange thing. In Appendix A.2 NIST says that you can use your own pair of points if you want to. But, they caution very strongly that in that case, anyone relying on the PRNG should verify that the pair of points were generated randomly. They describe a specific procedure for generating random points in a provable way (via hashing some other data) and require that the seeds that were used be saved and made available to the verifier. They don't say anything about why this is important, but the work by Shumow and Ferguson now makes it clear. Otherwise there is the possibility of a very serious back door. So this raises the obvious question, why didn't NIST publish the seeds that were used to generate the default points from Appendix A.1? It seems odd that they are so insistent about using a verifiable procedure to create points, and then they don't say whether they followed it themselves. If they did use that procedure, NIST could simply publish the seeds for the point generation and everyone will be able to verify that the points are random and there is no back door. Unfortunately there is a complication, which is that one of the pair of points is inherited from FIPS 186-3, the Digital Signature Standard. The EC PRNG uses the curve and base point from EC DSS. It then chooses another point, and the two points are used for the PRNG. It's not particularly likely that the base point from EC DSS was generated via the randomizing technique prescribed for the EC RNG. And even if the 2nd point for the EC RNG is in fact generated randomly and they can prove it, it would not rule out the possibility that the base point from EC DSS had actually been pre-selected to allow for a back door. It is crucial that both points be generated randomly for the EC RNG to be secure. Ironically, the EC DSS standard does publish a seed used for a PRNG to generate the elliptic curves, so as to assure that they are random. However based on my reading of IEEE P1363 which tells how to do this, it does not appear that the seed constrains the base point, only the curve parameters. Unless NIST did use a verifiably random method to generate the base points in EC DSS and the 2nd points in EC PRNG then there is no foundation for security. 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I have now admitted to owning it, too, so I guess I can expect the Feds shortly...They've already stolen 400 of them from me via this illegal action. :( JMR From: Liberty Dollar To: jray Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters: I sincerely regret to inform you that about 8:00 this morning a dozen FBI and Secret Service agents raided the Liberty Dollar office in Evansville. For approximately six hours they took all the gold, all the silver, all the platinum and almost two tons of Ron Paul Dollars that where just delivered last Friday. They also took all the files, all the computers and froze our bank accounts. We have no money. We have no products. We have no records to even know what was ordered or what you are owed. We have nothing but the will to push forward and overcome this massive assault on our liberty and our right to have real money as defined by the US Constitution. We should not to be defrauded by the fake government money. But to make matters worse, all the gold and silver that backs up the paper certificates and digital currency held in the vault at Sunshine Mint has also been confiscated. Even the dies for mint the Gold and Silver Libertys have been taken. This in spite of the fact that Edmond C. Moy, the Director of the Mint, acknowledged in a letter to a US Senator that the paper certificates did not violate Section 486 and were not illegal. But the FBI and Services took all the paper currency too. The possibility of such action was the reason the Liberty Dollar was designed so that the vast majority of the money was in specie form and in the people's hands. Of the $20 million Liberty Dollars, only about a million is in paper or digital form. I regret that if you are due an order. It may be some time until it will be filled... if ever... it now all depends on our actions. Everyone who has an unfulfilled order or has digital or paper currency should band together for a class action suit and demand redemption. We cannot allow the government to steal our money! Please don't let this happen!!! Many of you read the articles quoting the government and Federal Reserve officials that the Liberty Dollar was legal. You did nothing wrong. You are legally entitled to your property. Let us use this terrible act to band together and further our goal - to return America to a value based currency. Please forward this important Alert... so everyone who possess or use the Liberty Dollar is aware of the situation. Please click _HERE_ to sign up for the class action lawsuit and get your property back! If the above link does not work you can access the page by copying the following into your web browser. http://www.libertydollar.org/classaction/index.php Thanks again for your support at this darkest time as the damn government and their dollar sinks to a new low. 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Hettinga) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:18:40 -0500 Subject: Liberty Dollar office raided Message-ID: Evansville Courier Press Liberty Dollar office raided Staff report Originally published 01:42 p.m., November 15, 2007 Updated 01:42 p.m., November 15, 2007 The future of an Evansville-based company that produces a "private voluntary barter currency" known as the Liberty Dollar is in question after federal agents raided the facility this week, according to an e-mail sent by its founder. Federal officials reportedly raided the group's headquarters, located in a strip mall at 225 N. Stockwell Road, early Wednesday morning and seized documents and precious metals. FBI Agent Wendy Osborne, a spokeswoman for the FBI's Indianapolis office, directed all questions on the raid to the Western District of North Carolina U.S. Attorney's Office. A spokeswoman there said she had no information on the investigation. Bernard von NotHaus, the group's monetary architect and the author of the e-mail, did not immediately respond to a message seeking comment. Von NotHaus developed the Liberty Dollar in 1998 as an "inflation-proof" alternative currency to the U.S. Dollar, which he has claimed has devalued since the Federal Reserve was established in 1913. The silver medallions are produced by a private mint in Idaho on behalf of Evansville-based Liberty Services, which also issues paper notes which the group says are backed by silver reserves. Liberty Dollar employees were at the office this morning cleaning up after the raid. They referred all questions to von NotHaus. According to the e-mail, about a dozen agents arrived Wednesday morning and seized gold, silver, platinum and nearly two tons of recently delivered Ron Paul Dollars. They also took all the files, all the computers and froze the group's bank accounts, the e-mail said. "We have no money. We have no products. We have no records to even know what was ordered or what you are owed," von NotHaus wrote in the e-mail, which was sent to Liberty Dollar customers. "We have nothing but the will to push forward and overcome this massive assault on our liberty and our right to have real money as defined by the US Constitution. We should not to be defrauded by the fake government money." The e-mail said the gold and silver that backs up the paper and digital currency was confiscated, as were the dies used to mint the Liberty Dollars themselves. As a result, it warns that recent orders placed for Liberty Dollars may not be filled and it encourages supporters to band together for a class action lawsuit. The e-mail repeatedly defends the Liberty Dollar as legal. "You did nothing wrong," von NotHaus wrote. "You are legally entitled to your property. Let us use this terrible act to band together and further our goal to return America to a value based currency." - Gavin Lesnick -- ----------------- R. A. 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The man who negotiated the United States out of Vietnam, took Nixon to China, and initiated ditente with the Soviet Union, received me like the college professor he once had been -- surrounded by his books and mementos. It is, of course, a rare opportunity to speak with one of history's makers and Mr. Kissinger remains one of the country's most prescient observers of world affairs. I began by asking him about the institutional atmosphere in Washington, the hothouse of American foreign policy. The capital is far more poisonous today than at any time in the recent past, I suggested -- including Mr. Kissinger's heyday during the Vietnam War, when the early Cold War-era comity between the political parties and the executive and legislative branches was already degrading. Mr. Kissinger leaned forward to answer my questions with studied deliberation. In part, he felt that this was institutional. Congress has itself changed. 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"You know," Mr. Kissinger reminded me in an accent as unique and recognizable in American history as Jack Kennedy's, "for somebody like me who, in his youth, lived in a dictatorship, the virtues of democracy don't have to be underlined." Of course, "the United States must operate in a democratic manner, and our foreign policy must reflect and properly balance both value and power considerations." But, Mr. Kissinger noted, it is important to recall that the American Republic was not originally designed to sustain an ability to pursue a complex foreign policy. The Framers tended to assume that, once independent, the U.S. could operate reasonably well in relative isolation. These attitudes persist. As a result, Mr. Kissinger posits, Americans have little patience "for a long time of foreign tension." Because of this, "presidents tend to present difficult cases, particularly those involving military engagements, to the American people in terms of a finite timeline. 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At the same time, he explained that this reform is unlikely, since it would either involve expansion of the veto-wielding permanent membership -- rendering the Security Council even less capable of decisive action -- or elimination of the veto. "This would be unacceptable to the United States and the other four permanent members," particularly in a world where the Council's actions, whatever their merits, are imbued with a great deal of perceived legitimacy. "But some change is necessary. The Council itself is breaking down -- the interests of its permanent members are simply not sufficiently parallel on a number of issues to permit a unanimous decision and the Security Council can only reflect the attainable consensus. It cannot by itself create it." This led to discussion of whether international institution building, accompanied by an all-out effort to restore the Cold War-era level of trans-Atlantic comity within NATO, would be a good investment for the U.S., and especially whether this should be a priority for the next administration. Mr. Kissinger was skeptical of the prospects for success. He also emphasized some profound changes in today's geopolitical environment. He pointed out that the world we have known for 300 years now -- the "Westphalian" international system that arose after Europe's wars of religion and is based on the nation-state -- is "collapsing." This may be a much more profound shift than the move from dynastic to national motivations following the 1814-15 Congress of Vienna (about which Mr. Kissinger has written) and a more serious challenge to international stability than that posed by states such as Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. 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The question of how to deal with Iran and its nuclear ambitions naturally comes to mind. There is no doubt that Iran's acquisition of nuclear weapons would be an extremely destabilizing development and cannot be tolerated by the U.S. Mr. Kissinger's view is that the U.S. must make a serious effort with Iran. He said that negotiations could work in the right circumstances and if there was enough determination behind them. "What you mustn't do," he cautioned, "is to identify diplomacy with escalating [Western] concessions." Right now we are "sliding into a position that we neither negotiate enough nor put out enough red lines." Mr. Kissinger added, however, that the use of force against Iran cannot be ruled out. Diplomacy not backed by the potential use of force is impotent. This was part of our problem in dealing with Iraq for many years. When it comes to dealing with our European allies over the longer term, there will continue to be some fundamental disagreements. 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As a result, it warns that recent orders placed for Liberty > Dollars may not be filled and it encourages supporters to band together for > a class action lawsuit. > > The e-mail repeatedly defends the Liberty Dollar as legal. > > "You did nothing wrong," von NotHaus wrote. "You are legally entitled to > your property. Let us use this terrible act to band together and further > our goal to return America to a value based currency." > > - Gavin Lesnick > > > -- > ----------------- > R. A. Hettinga > The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation > 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA > "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, > [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to > experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 From camera_lumina at hotmail.com Sun Nov 18 03:28:57 2007 From: camera_lumina at hotmail.com (Tyler Durden) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:28:57 -0500 Subject: Kissinger: Nation-State Collapsing, Film At 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rivkin's assessment of Kissinger's political prescience is a little missing in facts. Kissinger didn't architect any kind of 'deal' with Vietnam: The Vietcong chased our guys up the stairs of the ebassy to the choppers. China? Initiated by Mao. Let's not forget Kissinger's accidental sumoning of the Khmer Rouge and the subsequent ongoing instability in Burma. No, Kissinger was a lucky fuckup. -TD ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:58:14 -0500 > To: clips at philodox.com; dgcchat at dgcchat.com; cypherpunks at al-qaeda.net > From: rah at shipwright.com > Subject: Kissinger: Nation-State Collapsing, Film At 11 > > > > The Wall Street Journal > > > COMMENTARY: THE WEEKEND INTERVIEW > > Henry Kissinger > Diplomacy in the Post-9/11 Era > > By DAVID B. RIVKIN JR. > > November 17, 2007 > > "Whoever the next president is, the new administration will be extremely > disappointed if it believes that our relationships will mend because its > leader has a different name . . . . Personal diplomacy and > relationship-building, although important, are rarely the paramount drivers > of global affairs. These are shaped importantly by the long-term national > interest." > > Thus spake Henry Kissinger when I sat down with him recently in New York. > Though I'd met him once or twice over the years, I had never seen him in > situ -- ensconced in his Park Avenue office. To be honest, I was expecting > gilded furniture and sumptuous carpets -- the kind of quarters Clemens von > Metternich, one of Mr. Kissinger's own diplomat heroes, had in Habsburg > Vienna. > > I was, therefore, a little surprised to be ushered into a functional space > with nondescript appointments, including a 25-year-old Sony Trinitron > placed as if to emphasize he doesn't watch much TV. The man who negotiated > the United States out of Vietnam, took Nixon to China, and initiated > ditente with the Soviet Union, received me like the college professor he > once had been -- surrounded by his books and mementos. > > > It is, of course, a rare opportunity to speak with one of history's makers > and Mr. Kissinger remains one of the country's most prescient observers of > world affairs. I began by asking him about the institutional atmosphere in > Washington, the hothouse of American foreign policy. The capital is far > more poisonous today than at any time in the recent past, I suggested -- > including Mr. Kissinger's heyday during the Vietnam War, when the early > Cold War-era comity between the political parties and the executive and > legislative branches was already degrading. > > Mr. Kissinger leaned forward to answer my questions with studied > deliberation. In part, he felt that this was institutional. Congress has > itself changed. The "tradition of long-serving senior politicians from both > parties who were devoted to a truly national service has passed, or largely > so." The entire system, especially as it has been transformed by the > communications revolution, "is now much more driven by short-term political > calculations, the need to keep powerful and vocal constituencies happy, and > an eye on the next election." This effect, Mr. Kissinger posited, has been > enhanced by the 24-hour news cycle -- "more information, and less content." > > But Mr. Kissinger also dismissed the idea that there was ever some golden > age for the domestic fundamentals of American foreign policy. With a wry > smile, and a clearly bemused eye, he noted that the 1960s and '70s -- when > he served as both national security adviser and secretary of state under > two presidents (holding both jobs during Nixon's second term) -- were not > "idyllic." "I thought," he said, "it was very rough." > > The dominant theme of today's Washington battles is that most of America's > current problems are self-inflicted wounds attributable to overly muscular > and "unilateralist" Bush administration policies. Critics say that if only > the U.S. were less eager to impose its will on other countries, whether in > pursuit of traditional realpolitik goals or idealistic democracy-promotion, > we would encounter a great deal less hostility. As Zbigniew Brzezinski, one > of those critics and Mr. Kissinger's long-time intellectual sparring > partner, puts it in his recent book, what much of the world wants from the > U.S. is "respect" and recognition of its "dignity" defined as the ability > to manage their own affairs as they see fit. > > Mr. Kissinger agreed with the point that other nations will have to have > scope to develop their own identities. But he pointed out that to have > world order, "these identities need to be reconciled into some general > consensus." An American strategy of benign neglect may, in any case, no > longer be realistic in an age of increasing global integration when > relatively small transnational networks or failed states can project power > against democratic societies with devastating consequences. > > Meanwhile, most of today's international actors, "including states, > international organizations, and nongovernmental actors, are disenchanted > with different aspects of the existing world order." Unfortunately, Mr. > Kissinger noted, few of these actors are willing to play a constructive > long-term role, preferring merely to challenge American policies when they > involve risks. > > So can our democracy effectively manage long-term foreign policy problems > in a world of varied belief systems in which the U.S. is invariably urged, > and sometimes required to deal with many imperfect, or even profoundly > unsavory, regimes? > > "You know," Mr. Kissinger reminded me in an accent as unique and > recognizable in American history as Jack Kennedy's, "for somebody like me > who, in his youth, lived in a dictatorship, the virtues of democracy don't > have to be underlined." Of course, "the United States must operate in a > democratic manner, and our foreign policy must reflect and properly balance > both value and power considerations." > > But, Mr. Kissinger noted, it is important to recall that the American > Republic was not originally designed to sustain an ability to pursue a > complex foreign policy. The Framers tended to assume that, once > independent, the U.S. could operate reasonably well in relative isolation. > These attitudes persist. As a result, Mr. Kissinger posits, Americans have > little patience "for a long time of foreign tension." > > Because of this, "presidents tend to present difficult cases, particularly > those involving military engagements, to the American people in terms of a > finite timeline. As a result, they often end up implying, or promising, > achievements that may not be possible in the short term -- and that are by > no means guaranteed over the long term." > > Foreign policy, he emphasized, "is not something easily put on the clock." > It must "not oscillate wildly between excesses of commitment and excesses > of withdrawal." > > I glanced over his window sills, crammed with photographs of Mr. Kissinger > and the world's leaders, toward the Manhattan skyline and inquired about > the vitality of some of the key international institutions, and especially > the U.N. "The Security Council," he insisted, "must be reformed, since -- > at the present time -- it does not represent the realities of the > international community because major countries like India, Japan, Germany > and Brazil are not included." > > At the same time, he explained that this reform is unlikely, since it would > either involve expansion of the veto-wielding permanent membership -- > rendering the Security Council even less capable of decisive action -- or > elimination of the veto. > > "This would be unacceptable to the United States and the other four > permanent members," particularly in a world where the Council's actions, > whatever their merits, are imbued with a great deal of perceived > legitimacy. "But some change is necessary. The Council itself is breaking > down -- the interests of its permanent members are simply not sufficiently > parallel on a number of issues to permit a unanimous decision and the > Security Council can only reflect the attainable consensus. It cannot by > itself create it." > > This led to discussion of whether international institution building, > accompanied by an all-out effort to restore the Cold War-era level of > trans-Atlantic comity within NATO, would be a good investment for the U.S., > and especially whether this should be a priority for the next > administration. Mr. Kissinger was skeptical of the prospects for success. > > He also emphasized some profound changes in today's geopolitical > environment. He pointed out that the world we have known for 300 years now > -- the "Westphalian" international system that arose after Europe's wars of > religion and is based on the nation-state -- is "collapsing." This may be a > much more profound shift than the move from dynastic to national > motivations following the 1814-15 Congress of Vienna (about which Mr. > Kissinger has written) and a more serious challenge to international > stability than that posed by states such as Nazi Germany or the Soviet > Union. The nation-state is weakening in Europe, he observed, and has met > with mixed success in other parts of the world. "Only in Russia, the United > States and Asia can it be found in its classic form." > > Meanwhile, across the Middle East and southern Asia, although nationalism > remains a powerful force, many cast themselves as a part of a greater > Islamic community defined in opposition to the West. In Mr. Kissinger's > view, a single formula will no longer adequately describe this > international system. > > This brought us inexorably back to America's most important relationship -- > with most of the world's other democracies in Europe. Mr. Kissinger pointed > out that, in the immediate post-war period, "Europe was far weaker than > today, but still prepared -- with leaders like Adenauer, Schuman and > Monnet, to conduct a real and assertive foreign policy -- even if under the > American security blanket and with a modicum of trans-Atlantic discord." > > But today, fundamental philosophical differences divide the U.S and Europe > across a range of key foreign policy issues. Europeans and Americans, I > suggested, disagree as to both means and ends -- especially the legitimacy > of the pre-emptive use of force without an explicit blessing from the > Security Council, as well as in their basic assessment of the gravity of > the threats posed by transnational terror networks, which cannot be either > bargained with or deterred. > > The real difference, Mr. Kissinger interjected, lay in "what government[s] > can ask of their people." It is because "European governments are not able > any more to ask their people for great sacrifices," he argued, that they > have so readily opted for a "soft power" approach to so many foreign policy > issues. This will, of necessity, make it harder for Europe to reach a > consensus with the U.S. > > This is exactly what makes dealing effectively with growing threats so > difficult. The question of how to deal with Iran and its nuclear ambitions > naturally comes to mind. There is no doubt that Iran's acquisition of > nuclear weapons would be an extremely destabilizing development and cannot > be tolerated by the U.S. Mr. Kissinger's view is that the U.S. must make a > serious effort with Iran. He said that negotiations could work in the right > circumstances and if there was enough determination behind them. "What you > mustn't do," he cautioned, "is to identify diplomacy with escalating > [Western] concessions." Right now we are "sliding into a position that we > neither negotiate enough nor put out enough red lines." > > Mr. Kissinger added, however, that the use of force against Iran cannot be > ruled out. Diplomacy not backed by the potential use of force is impotent. > This was part of our problem in dealing with Iraq for many years. > > When it comes to dealing with our European allies over the longer term, > there will continue to be some fundamental disagreements. But "to the > extent the problem is characterized by some of our allies as the management > of American power, then it is important neither to be immobilized because > of a fear of unilateral action, nor to attempt to create an international > system based upon it." > > Here, Mr. Kissinger suggested that a useful lesson can be taken from 19th > century Britain -- act unilaterally when you must, but create a framework > in which other powers are reassured by an "understanding of predictable" > actions and an underlying agreement on objectives. > > By the time I left Mr. Kissinger's office, I had a genuine feeling of > unease about the future. But had I raised this with Mr. Kissinger, I > suspect he would have simply said that this goes with the territory. Great > states have great responsibilities. They must expect great challenges, and > they must be prepared to meet them. > > Mr. Rivkin, a lawyer based in Washington, served in the Justice Department > under Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush. > > -- > ----------------- > R. A. Hettinga > The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation > 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA > "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, > [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to > experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 From camera_lumina at hotmail.com Sun Nov 18 03:33:47 2007 From: camera_lumina at hotmail.com (Tyler Durden) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:33:47 -0500 Subject: A Theory of Everything In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry. My own mathematical physics training ended a year or two into grad school. This is way over my head as well, but I doubt it's a joke: Too much effort and too small an audience. -TD > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:23:59 -0600 > From: measl at mfn.org > To: cypherpunks at al-qaeda.net > Subject: A Theory of Everything > > This is probably some kind of joke which is just *way* over my head, but I > found it oddly interesting nonetheless. I'd be interested in hearing from > a numbers person on what this really represents (if anything). > > http://arxiv.org/pdf/0711.0770 > > -- > Yours, > J.A. Terranson > sysadmin_at_mfn.org > 0xBD4A95BF > > > What religion, please tell me, tells you as a follower of that religion to > occupy another country and kill its people? Please tell me. Does > Christianity tell its followers to do that? Judaism, for that matter? > Islam, for that matter? What prophet tells you to send 160,000 troops to > another country, kill men, women, and children? 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Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' From rah at shipwright.com Sun Nov 18 08:43:45 2007 From: rah at shipwright.com (R.A. Hettinga) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:43:45 -0500 Subject: Liberty Dollar office raided In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 6:24 AM -0500 11/18/07, Tyler Durden wrote: >No encrypted and remote digital storage? These guys make coins. Er. "rounds". Whatever. Except for whenever they make warehouse receipts for gold in a vault in Idaho. They're bearer instruments (remember *that* word? :-)), so, once the coins are minted and sold (at an egregious markup over specie, but, hey, caveat emptor, better than fiat money, in theory...), they don't need records. In theory. Oh. Right. For the tax man. Tax man... Oh. I get it. The *tax* man... Never mind. Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' From rah at shipwright.com Sun Nov 18 09:02:01 2007 From: rah at shipwright.com (R.A. Hettinga) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:02:01 -0500 Subject: Kissinger: Nation-State Collapsing, Film At 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 6:28 AM -0500 11/18/07, Tyler Durden wrote: >The Vietcong chased our guys up the stairs of the ebassy to the choppers. After a so-called "democratic" congress took away *all* their money? We were winning in Viet Nam. Hell, we *won* the Tet "offensive", for that matter. We lost on college campae, where history is written, apparently, by losers. And in the media, which is the first draft of same, also written by losers, in the long run. Unwash you mind, Tyler, and learn not to regurgitate leftism so much, hmmm? Yes, boys and girls, "empires" are, currently, like for the last 12,000 years or so, what happens when you win too many fights. Life's a bitch and then the empire falls. Which is what Kissinger, oddly enough, is saying. Which is nonetheless true even if The Dick Cheney, er, Darth Vader, Of The Nixon Administration said it. Better inside the tent pissing out, frankly. If you really want to freak your knee-jerk reflex out, go read, horrors, Victor Davis Hanson's "Carnage and Culture", and come back when you change your underwear. The west wins wars because it makes more stuff and kills more people. The VietCommies are knocking on *our* door to do business, not us on theirs. They used the *West's* technology, and even one of its more broken pseudo-sciences-cum-religions, Marxism, because they had none of their own that would work. Still do. Certainly, crypto, and geodesic networks, have the potential to re-organize society, because society maps pretty much to is communications architectures, but, at the moment, we're still stuck in a world of hierarchy and book-entry transactions. Lots of people nailing manifestos on the church doors (see this list, 15 years ago, now...), but nobody's printed 'em for the peasants and princes to read and burn down the cathedrals with yet. Though, strangely enough, Kissinger himself notes, underneath his black helmet and around puffs of his ventilator, and if you can bestill your jerking knees that long to read that far, that the nation-state's days are numbered. Probably, I would claim, because of geodesic networks, and maybe even crypto :-). Kewl. 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More people should join them Henry Porter Sunday November 18, 2007 The Observer Welcome to Fortress Britain, a fortress that will keep people in as well as out. Welcome to a state that requires you to answer 53 questions before you're allowed to take a day trip to Calais. Welcome to a country where you will be stopped, scanned and searched at any of 250 railways stations, filmed at every turn, barked at by a police force whose behaviour has given rise to a doubling in complaints concerning abuse and assaults. Three years ago, this would have seemed hysterical and Home Office ministers would have been writing letters of complaint. But it is a measure of how fast and how far things have gone that it does nothing more than describe the facts as announced last week. We now accept with apparent equanimity that the state has the right to demand to know, among other things, how your ticket has been paid for, the billing address of any card used, your travel itinerary and route, your email address, details of whether your travel arrangements are flexible, the history of changes to your travel plans plus any biographical information the state deems to be of interest or anything the ticket agent considers to be of interest. There is no end to Whitehall's information binge. The krill of personal data is being scooped up in ever-increasing quantities by a state that harbours a truly bewildering fear of the free, private and self-determined individual, who may want to take himself off to Paris without someone at home knowing his movements or his credit card number. Combined with the ID card information, which comes on stream in a few years' time, the new travel data means there will be very little the state won't be able to find out about you. The information will be sifted for patterns of travel and expenditure. Conclusions will be drawn from missed planes, visits extended, illness and all the accidents of life, and because this is a government database, there will be huge numbers of mistakes that will lead to suspicion and action being taken against innocent people. Those failing to provide satisfactory answers will not be allowed to travel and then it will come to us with a leaden regret that we have in practice entered the era of the exit visa, a time when we must ask permission from a security bureaucrat who insists on further and better particulars in the biographical section of the form. Ten, 15 or more years on, we will be resigned to the idea that the state decides whether we travel or not. Who pays for the #1.2bn cost over the next decade? You will, with additional charges made by your travel agent and in a new travel tax designed to recoup the cost of the data collection. 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He won't say how many days he wants and he won't answer David Davis, the shadow Home Secretary, who points out that all the necessary powers to keep people in jail after a large-scale attack are provided in the Civil Contingencies Act 2004. To this, Brown replies that declaring a state of emergency would give terrorists 'the oxygen of publicity'. How does he square this absurd statement with the high alert being sounded by police, politicians and spies over the past two weeks, which has given the greatest possible publicity to the power of the Muslim extremists to change our lives? The truth is that while his government limps, heaves and splutters with an incompetence only matched by its unearthly sense of entitlement, the Prime Minister has become fixated with this issue as though it were a virility test. 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UK Government loses personal data on 25 million citizens 2. German Parliament adopted the data retention law 3. IGF 2007: still a long way to effective outcome 4. Lisbon Conference "On RFID - The next step to the Internet of Things" 5. EC announces a larger investigation of the Google-Doubleclick deal 6. Data Protection Act infringed by UK Foreign Office 7. DNA tests approved by French Constitutional council 8. Attack on Russian opposition media claiming copyright infringement 9. Big Brother Awards 2007 - Austria and Switzerland 10. UK govt asks Internet companies to assist in fighting online terrorism 11. PirateBay wants a new software standard to replace BitTorrent 12. ENDitorial: CoE - Content Regulation: Break On Through; IPR: It's Tricky 13. Recommended Reading 14. Agenda 15. About ============================================================ 1. UK government loses personal data on 25 million citizens ============================================================ British Prime Minister Gordon Brown had had to apologise to Parliament after two computer discs containing the personal data of 25 million citizens were lost in the post. The disks contained the database on child benefit - a welfare payment made to the families of all children in Britain. The data include children's and parents' names, addresses and dates of birth, together with parents' national insurance numbers and bank account details. The disks were not encrypted but merely "password protected". Britain's most senior tax official, the head of HM Revenue and Customs, has resigned. The story has spread to a number of other systems that the government is building to make ever more information on citizens available to ever more public-sector workers. For example, there's a plan to link up children's databases so that a child's medical records, school records, police records and social-work records can be available to workers who contact the child or its parents; this was condemned as both unsafe and illegal by a November 2006 report by EDRI-member Foundation for Information Policy Research (FIPR) for the Information Commissioner. There's also a plan to build several national medical record databases that will contain the records of tens of millions of patients; a parliamentary health committee report urged that patients be given the right to opt out. The government brushed aside such complaints and kept on with its "database state" programme. However, the current scandal has put privacy and data protection at the centre of the political agenda. Government security failure (20.11.2007) http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2007/11/20/government-security-failure/ Brown apologises for data blunder (21.11.2007) http://politics.guardian.co.uk/economics/story/0,,2214566,00.html Government under pressure over taxman's giant blunder (21.11.2007) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2912937.ece Second-class and lost in the post (21.11.2007) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/alice_miles/article2910272.ece (contribution from Ross Anderson - EDRI-member FIPR - UK) ============================================================ 2. German Parliament adopted the data retention law ============================================================ The German Federal Parliament adopted on 10 November 2007 the law that implements the EU data retention directive in the German legislation by amending the current wire tapping legislation. This has triggered a strong reaction of the opposition and civil society, more than 13 000 citizens signing to challenge of the law to the Constitutional Court. The law passed in an open vote (on request by the Greens and the Liberal Party) with 366 parliamentarians voting for the data retention regulations and 156 against them. The members of the SPD (Social Democratic Party), CDU (Christian Democratic Union) and CSU (Christian Social Union) voted for the law pushed by the Federal Minister of Justice Brigitte Zypries and Federal Minister of the Interior Wolfgang Schduble. The new law will enter into force on 1 January 2008, when all the telecommunication providers will be requested to keep the traffic data for six months. For the Internet services, this obligation will start at the beginning of 2009. The Internet traffic data will include storing the email addresses, IPs and time stamps in the case of electronic mail. The providers of anonymisation services are also obliged to respect the same provisions. All these data will be accessible to the law enforcement authorities. But while the police, court and state prosecutors will need a court order to access the information, others - such as the intelligent services - will be able to access the data without any restriction. The adoption of the law by the Parliament led to a massive response from the civil society, media associations and opposition. The number of the signatories of the constitutional challenge of the law reached to 13 000 in just a few days. The German working group on data retention that is leading this action announced that the list is still open for signatories until 24 December. The action can be filed with the court in Karlsruhe only after the law has been published in the Official Gazette. Patrick Breyer from the working group explains: "According to our constitution, parliament's powers are limited by the civil rights. It is unheard of that some representatives seem to think that they are no longer responsible for the up-holding of our civil rights." Criticism of the law was made by the personal data protection authorities, such as the Federal Commissioner for Data Protection Peter Schaar complaining that the Federal Parliament "agreed to the data retention of telecommunication data in absence of any suspicion irrespective of the grave doubts as to its constitutionality" and explaining that the German law exceeds the EU directive on data retention. The Commissioner for Data Protection to the State of Saxony, Anhalt Harald von Bose, joined the harsh comments: "To see this cut-back on personal liberty rights occur on the day of the Fall of the Wall, November 9, is a bitter fact of life." Media associations have also complained about the lack of special requirements in the case of confidential relationships in professional contexts. The board of the German Journalists' Union, part of the trade union verdi.de, asked their members to support the constitutional challenge promoted by the civil society. Other journalist associations, such as the Federal Association of German Newspaper Publishers, the Association of German Magazine Publishers and the German Association of Specialised Journalists steeped up to show their concerns on the adopted law. Even the former Federal Minister of Justice Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger has renewed her criticism against the state mandated "retention-craze". There would be "a real chance that this could lead to a surveillance society", she said. German Data Retention working group http://www.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/ Parliament voted in favour of revision of data retention law (10.11.2007) http://bitkanone.ccc.de/news/parliament-voted-in-favour-of-revision-of-data Federal Parliament passes data retention and wire tapping legislation (17.11.2007) http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/99158/ Sharp response to rubber stamping of data retention legislation (17.11.2007) http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/99159/ 13,000 determined to file suit against data retention legislation (17.11.2007) http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/99161/ EDRI-gram: Largest anti-surveillance street protest in Germany for 20 years (26.09.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.18/liberty-instead-of-fear ============================================================ 3. IGF 2007: still a long way to effective outcome ============================================================ The Internet Governance Forum (IGF) that took place this year in Rio de Janeiro was attended by over1300 participants from 109 countries and focused on the following main themes - critical Internet resources, access, diversity, openness and security. In total there were 84 events in a 4-day time frame (12-15 November 2007) where people could participate in any plenary sessions, workshops, best practice sessions, dynamic coalition meetings and other related meetings. The UN Undersecretary-General Sha Zhukang explained in the opening session the scope of the IGF: "The United Nations does not have a role in managing the Internet. But we do embrace the opportunity to provide, through this forum, a platform that helps to ensure the Internet's global reach." However, the still-present subject of moving ICANN out of the US influence was brought back to the table by some participants. Russian representative Konstantin Novoderejhkin asked the UN to start a group for moving Internet governance "under the control of the international community." He was backed up by other states, including Brazilian officials who asked for an independent ICANN. The U.S. Representatives replied that the present arrangement prevents "other countries from censoring Web sites by deleting entries out of domain name directories." Another strong supporter of the status-quo was Vincent Cerf that explained: "ICANN has existed for eight years and done a great job with its plans for internationalisation.'' He also emphasised that the government attempts to control the Internet will probably fail. Other important topics were also on the agenda of the IGF. Network neutrality was seen as an important proposal of the global public policy. Japanese Vice Minister for Policy Coordination Kiyoshi Moric considered network neutrality "as one of three key issues that had to be addressed." Amnesty International used the opportunity to renew its call to governments and companies to make human rights central to Internet governance. Nick Dearden, part of Amnesty International's delegation to the IGF, explained: "In the 12 months since the last IGF we've witnessed the crisis in Burma, where the Internet was used to get images and information out of the country and to mobilize people all over the world to take action. On the other hand we have also monitored the increase in censorship, filtering and blocking of websites." IP Justice identified in their public report of the IGF 2007 three major areas where this year Forum has proved to be useful: high quality of the workshops and best practice sessions, world-class technical capabilities and remote participation opportunities and offline interactions & networking opportunities. But it has also highlighted other subjects that could be improved in the next sessions such as: human rights and other controversial topics avoided in main sessions, emphasizing lack of gender balance and exclusion of young voices in main sessions that were dominated by established players. Would this be enough to make IGF more than a worldwide conference on Internet governance? While there is still a long way to go for the IGF making any recommendation, the Forum has been given a mandate from the Tunis World Summit on the Information Society entailing a number of functions that obviously cannot be effectively fulfilled by an annual conference. This was precisely the issue discussed at a workshop organized by the civil society Internet governance caucus on "fulfilling the mandate of the IGF". One simple idea came out, inter alia, from this workshop, which is to leverage proposals issued from workshops and other dynamic coalitions meeting, by bringing them to wider discussion in IGF plenary sessions. Among such outcomes worth discussing at a broader level, one could be the joint proposal from the Council of Europe (CoE) and the Association for Progressive Communications (APC) to set up a "mechanism to foster participation, access to information and transparency in Internet governance". As explained by CoE and APC, "the mechanism should ensure that all the institutions which play a role in some aspect of governing the internet commit to transparency, public participation, including participation of all stakeholders, and access to information in their activities". CoE and APC propose to consider, as a prototype to such a mechanism, the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe's Aarhus Convention on Access to Information, Public Participation in Decision-making and Access to Justice in Environmental Matter. The next year Internet Governance Forum will take place in New Delhi, India and is scheduled for 8-11 December 2008. Internet Governance Forum (IGF) http://www.intgovforum.org/ Second Meeting of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) - Chairman's Summary (16.11.2007) http://www.intgovforum.org/Rio_Meeting/Chairman%20Summary.FINAL.16.11.2007.pdf IP Justice Report on 2007 Internet Governance Forum (IGF) (19.11.2007) http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/11/19/2007-igf-rio-wrap-up/ U.S. Control Of Internet Still A Concern (16.11.2007) http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2007/11/16/u-s-control-of-internet-still-a-concern Internet Governance Forum: Test Of A New Global Governance Model (14.11.2007) http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=822 Rio IGF 2008: Amnesty renews its call on governments and companies to make human rights central to Internet governance (16.11.2007) http://www.mediaforfreedom.com/ReadArticle.asp?ArticleID=6258 CoE-APC joint press release (13.11.2007) http://www.apc.org/english/news/index.shtml?x=5310569= EDRI-gram: ENDitorial : IGF - UN innovation or just another conference ? (8.11.2006) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number4.21/enditorial ============================================================ 4. Lisbon Conference "On RFID - The next step to the Internet of Things" ============================================================ Last week the conference "On RFID", organised by the Portuguese Presidency with support of the European Commission DG Information Society, took place in Lisbon. During the one and a half days of the conference a number of topics were discussed, that could be crucial for the future development of RFID technology. Privacy and security were the topics of a panel discussion held during the morning of the first day. The participants in this discussion, representatives of industry, consumer, data protection and international organisations, all shared the opinion that security and privacy by design is the proper way for advancements of RFID technology. As Reinhard Posch, representative of the European Network and Information Security Agency (ENISA), stated, the assumption that cloning of RFID tags is too expensive to constitute a risk, is not sustainable. Therefore, the utilisation of strong cryptography will be necessary to technically ensure a proper level of data protection. With regards to data protection in the field of RFID, Peter Hustinx, the European Data Protection Supervisor, stated in his intervention that first it is necessary to properly implement the data protection rules that already exist and that probably some clarifications of these rules (as the one on the concept of personal data by the Article 29 working party) need to be made to ensure that they are understood and implemented correctly. At the end of this process it might well turn out that additional regulations are needed to address new problems that might arise when implementing and deploying RFID technology. According to Mr. Hustinx, a key issue that should be addressed in RFID research is, that users get control over the technology and that they are enabled to explicitly opt-in to the use of RFID, if they so wish. Among the participants of the conference was Humberto Moran, founder and director of Friendly Technologies Ltd. His company claims to have invented "a privacy-friendly system for the tracking and control of mobile objects using RFID tags, which cannot be interrogated by unauthorised readers" (patent pending). The main concept of this system is to protect the data on every RFID tag with a password and to hand over the password with the movement of the object from one RFID reader to another. Once the ownership of a tagged object changes the owner also has to hand over the password to the new owner and delete it from his own systems. While this concept certainly has the potential to significantly strengthen the control of individuals in RFID systems, its suitability for real world applications has still to be proven. To this end, Friendly Technologies is currently looking for adequate funding. Not only privacy and security are limiting factors for the development of RFID systems. While the size of the silicon chips can be further decreased (more or less constantly following Moore's law), physical limits hinder a further significant reduction of the size of the antennas of RFID Tags. A way to overcome these limitations would be to use higher frequencies for the communication between Tags and Readers, but this again would be subject to limitations due to an increased sensitivity to interferences. Therefore, it was said, a further decrease in the size of RFID Tags is not to be expected in the near future. With regards to RFID research in Europe, a RFID Reference Model developed by the Cluster of European RFID Projects, was presented at the conference. This Reference Model depicts eight main RFID application fields (from "Logistical Tracking & Tracing of Goods" to "Public Services") and research topics relevant to them. In the morning session of the second conference day, RFID governance issues were discussed. Problems here are similar to the situation with the Domain Name Service (DNS) for Internet domain names, since EPCGlobal's Object Name Service (ONS; which provides for tagged objects a service similar to the DNS) is designed to have one central managing authority (like ICANN for DNS). Given the dominant position of the US government with regards to ICANN it is certainly very unlikely that a central component of a future Internet of Things will remain undisputed amongst countries. Therefore a design should be found that allows for a decentralised architecture. As this conference showed, there are many problems that have to be resolved on the way to an Internet of Things. Privacy and security are now clearly topics that have to be addressed and properly answered before a large scale deployment of RFID technology is possible and acceptable. It will however take a while until these answers are implemented and available in technology. As Sanjay Sarma from MIT Auto-ID Labs mentioned in the closing session of the conference, encryption on passive cheap RFID Tags is still five years away. On RFID - The next step to the Internet of Things http://www.rfid-outlook.pt/ Article 29 Working Party: Opinion No. 4/2007 on the concept of personal data http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/privacy/docs/wpdocs/2007/wp136_en.pdf Patent application: Privacy-friendly RFID system prevents unauthorised interrogation of RFID tags http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB2437347&F=0&QPN=GB2437347&RPN=WO2007122425&DOC=deb46d24db99510ac37e37f3bb731aea91 Moore's law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law RFID Reference Model http://www.rfid-in-action.eu/public/rfid-reference-model Cluster of European RFID Projects (CERP) http://www.rfid-in-action.eu/cerp MIT Auto-ID Lab http://autoidlab.mit.edu/ (contribution by Andreas Krisch - EDRI-member VIBE!AT ) ============================================================ 5. EC announces a larger investigation of the Google-DoubleClick deal ============================================================ The European Commission (EC) announced on 13 November 2007 that its initial investigation in the deal Google-DoubleClick "indicated that the proposed merger would raise competition concerns in the markets for intermediation and ad serving in online advertising." Therefore the Commission decided to open an in-depth investigation in this case in order to take a final decision on whether the proposed transaction would significantly impede effective competition within the European market or any substantial part of it. The Commission also announced that it would investigate "whether without this transaction, DoubleClick would have grown into an effective competitor of Google in the market for online ad intermediation. It will also investigate whether the merger, which combines the leading providers of respectively, on the one hand, online advertising space and intermediation services, and, on the other hand, ad serving technology, could lead to anti-competitive restrictions for competitors operating in these markets and thus harm consumers." The announcement of the Commission comes after several consumer and data protection groups asked for an detailed investigation on the matter. Privacy International sent on 5 November 2007 a letter, supported by EDRI, to the European Commission DG Competition, Commissioner Kroes, arguing that the merger could have serious implications for privacy innovation in advertising. EC will deliver its opinion by 3 April 2008 and the decision to open this in-depth enquiry does not prejudge the final result of the investigation. Mergers: Commission opens in-depth investigation into Google's proposed take over of DoubleClick (13.11.2007) http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/07/1688&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en European Union Investigates Google-DoubleClick Deal (14.11.2007) http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139595-c,google/article.html EDRI-gram: EDRI supports PI's comments on Google-Doubleclick merger (7.11.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.21/google-doubleclick-pi-edri ============================================================ 6. Data Protection Act infringed by UK Foreign Office ============================================================ Following an investigation into the online visa application system for UK, the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) ruled on 13 November 2007 that the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) was in breach of the Data Protection Act, having failed to properly protect visa applications made over the Internet through its UK visas website. The site is run by FCO together with the Home Office and is outsourced to an Indian company called VFS. The problem was first signalled by a member of the public who alerted VFS being concerned of the fact that he could read details about other applicants. But only this year have VFS and FCO admitted there was a problem after the issue was brought out by a Channel 4 News investigation showing the visa applicant data was not secure. The ICO investigation has shown that at least 50 000 applications to the British High Commission in India were affected and found "inadequate central control of the moves to outsourcing" stating that officials had a "piecemeal" approach to privacy. The report concluded that: "The earlier contracts paid insufficient attention to the requirements of the Data Protection Act and to basic IT security." FCO fully cooperated with ICO during the investigation also providing ICO with an independent report into the breach. ICO asked FCO to sign a formal undertaking to comply with the Data Protection Act which comprises the eight basic principles of personal data protection. "Organisations have a duty to keep our personal information secure (...) If they fail to take this responsibility seriously, they not only leave individuals vulnerable to identity theft, but risk losing confidence and trust" said Mick Gorrill, assistant commissioner at the Information Commissioner's Office. Failure by FCO to meet the terms of the undertaking may lead to further action by the ICO. Foreign Office in breach of the Data Protection Act - ICO Press Release (13.11.2007) http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/pressreleases/2007/fco_undertaking_131107.pdf Government broke data protection laws (14.11.2007) http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/nov/14/data.protection.breach ============================================================ 7. DNA tests approved by French Constitutional council ============================================================ In a decision published on 15 November 2007, the French Constitutional council approved the introduction of DNA testing in the new immigration law to prove family links for foreign candidates applying for a more than 3 months visa on family regrouping grounds. However, it has further restricted their use, making two explicit reservations. The first reservation makes this provision irrelevant when family links with the mother can be proven by any other legal mean under the law of the mother's country. The second reservation forbids any systematic application of DNA testing, since the Council reminds that all other means to prove family links should be used first by French consulates. With these and previous restrictions made by the French Senate, this provision will indeed be hardly applicable in practice. However, this decision from the Constitutional council is a breach of the French laws on bioethics of 1994 and 2004, which explicitly stipulate that the identification by genetic prints can be done only for medical or scientific research purposes. And, for the first time, this breach is made for administrative purposes. French Constitutional council Decision 2007-557 DC (in French only, 15.11.2007) http://www.conseil-constitutionnel.fr/decision/2007/2007557/index.htm EDRI-gram: Update On Dna And Biometrics In French Immigration Law (24.10.07) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number4.20/dna-french-immigration-law EDRI-gram: DNA Tests Proposed In France For Family Visa Applicants (26.09.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.18/dna-test-france-visa (Contribution by Meryem Marzouki, EDRI member IRIS - France) ============================================================ 8. Attack on Russian opposition media claiming copyright infringement ============================================================ The local edition of Moscow-based independent newspaper Novaya Gazeta from Samara was closed down on 8 November 2007 by the Russian authorities and its editor Sergei Kurt-Adzhiyev was criminally indicted under the accusation of having violated copyright provisions of the Russian Penal Code, by using counterfeit software. Violations carry up to six years in prison. The problems started on 11 May 2007 right before the so called March of Dissent, led by Kasparov's Other Russia opposition coalition, as the paper was one of the few media company having planned to cover the march. Several officers from the Samara Main Internal Affairs Directorate came to the newspaper offices and seized all of its computers under the accusation of using counterfeit software. Later the same day, all the office papers, including financial ones, were confiscated as well. The case is part of a larger action of the Russian government against independent news media, advocacy organisations and opposition political activists, all police raids having the same pretext of investigating an alleged use of counterfeit software. The actions are taking under the coverage of the repeated concerns expressed by the Western world in relation to the high level of piracy in Russia. "Our law enforcement finally realized that computers are very important tools for their opponents, and they have decided to take away these tools by doing something close to the West's agenda," said Vladimir Pribylovsky, head of the Panorama research institute in Moscow. Novaya Gazeta says it believes its software is legal. According to Vitaly Yaroshevsky, a deputy editor of the newspaper: "This is not a campaign against piracy, it's a campaign against dissent. (...) The authorities want to destroy an opposition newspaper. It doesn't matter if we send more computers to Samara. It doesn't matter if we show we bought computers legally. It will change nothing." The shutting down of the newspaper is also criticised by the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ). "The authorities in Samara have effectively silenced an independent newspaper that dared to cover an opposition party campaign in an election year. (...) We call on local prosecutors to drop all charges against Sergei Kurt-Adzhiyev, return all seized equipment and financial documents, and allow the paper to print without fear of harassment." stated Joel Simon, CPJ Executive Director. Samara's police made no comment on the issue stating they would make an official statement at the completion of the investigation. In the mean time, the activist groups in Russia are checking the legality of their software. "Most people are trying to put things in order" said Tatyana Lokshina, head of Demos, a human rights group. Russia Casts A Selective Net in Piracy Crackdown (14.11.2007) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/13/AR2007111302070.html Novaya Gazeta's work paralyzed due to counterfeit Windows (11.06.2007) http://eng.cnews.ru/news/top/indexEn.shtml?2007/05/11/249382 Russia: Authorities shutter Novaya Gazeta's Samara edition (13.11.2007) http://www.cpj.org/news/2007/europe/russia13nov07na.html EDRI-gram: Putin wants control of Russian Internet (7.11.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.21/putin-russia-internet ============================================================ 9. Big Brother Awards 2007 - Austria and Switzerland ============================================================ The Big Brother Awards ceremonies in Austria and Switzerland took place in the past weeks in Viena, on the 25 October 2007 and in St Gall, on the 9 November 2007, respectively. 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The surveillance of the Austrian cab drivers was escalated from radio data transmission records of the personal data of each individual driver to GPS monitoring of the vehicles and personal physical check by an infrared seat contact system, crowned by the installation of "inconspicuous, easily and discretely to install" video systems on cabs introduced by RTS and the cab guild of the chamber of economics. The cab guild stated the data recorded were deleted after 48 hours, but did not give any guarantees for that. The Policy category award was initially won by Claudia Schmied the Minister of Education, Arts and Culture for the still unsolved issues related to the "education evidence" bill, a draft law for the collection of data on pupils, including data on expels from school, social anomalies, attendance of religious classes, remedial needs. The database is linked with the social assurance number and is to be stored for 6 years. The latest draft law does not include sufficient legal protection for pupils and is intended for a large and vague term of "administrative purposes". Only a non-committing right to complaint to the data protection commission is provided by the draft instead of the information and rectification right as stipulated by the data protection law. The award was not given as and is kept "in evidence" for the time being, as a result of a recent amendment to the bill proposed by the Minister that brings some improvements to the draft. Peter van der Arend, of the royal Dutch Telecom KPN has received the award for the Authorities and Administration category for data mining standards for Telecom traffic data. He is the chairman of the Telecom "Lawful Interception" (TC LI) committee in the European Telecom Standards Institute which is in charge of the creation of a uniform system to monitor all fixed line and mobile telephony networks. TC LI changes the requirements of the police and judiciary into technical standards that will be compulsory for all telecom equipment. As such, all telephony networks with carry inborn surveillance from the start. "Lawful Interception" includes a set of rules that goes against the present European laws, being therefore actually illegal. In Communication and Marketing section, the award was received by Anthony E. Zuiker, author of the C.S.I series which present DNA Analysis, criminal search and the "Aushebelung" (by-passing) of civil rights in a biased way, presenting citizens' rights as hindering to an investigation and showing in a positive light the way in which the investigators "smartly" by-pass civil rights. The series are most dangerous as they were taken as examples by other similar type of series, which try to manipulate the public opinion. Hans Dichand, editor-in-chief of the "Kurier" (Courier Newspaper) in Vienna and the power behind the "Kronenzeitung" (Crown Newspaper), which is the most widely circulated daily newspaper in Austria, received the award for a Life's work, as the manipulator of the republic by means of the media he leads that support the strategic goals of their owner. People that are not to the liking of the publisher are exposed in the Kurier with full address and phone number. The positive award Defensor Libertatis was won by Karl Korinek, President of the Constitutional Court for having kept warning about the danger of the fight against terrorism leading to a total surveillance state. He advised on the risk that security may displace the fundamental rights such as the privacy of correspondence, the secrecy of telecommunications and the data security. Big Brother Awards 2007 Switzerland (only in French, 9.11.2007) http://www.bigbrotherawards.ch/2007/presse/pressemitteilungen/bba.pressemitteilung.20071109.6f Big Brother Awards 2007 Switzerland - Winners (only in German, 9.11.2007) http://www.bigbrotherawards.ch/2007 Austrian Big Brother Awards 2007 - Winners http://www.bigbrotherawards.at/2007/English ============================================================ 10. UK govt asks Internet companies to assist in fighting online terrorism ============================================================ Gordon Brown, British Prime Minister, made a statement on 14 November 2007 announcing, among other security measures, the intention to ask Internet companies to assist the government in its fight against online terrorist propaganda by finding ways to stop such content. The Prime Minister stated the Home Secretary Jacqui Smith was "inviting the largest global technology and Internet companies to work together to ensure that our best technical expertise is galvanized to counter online incitement to hatred". The proposal comes in line with the European Union efforts to find ways to sanction Web sites that display terror material. The Home Office said it was not yet clear if Brown's proposal would need new legislation or only different means of enforcing the present one. According to the British law, it is forbidden to publish statements encouraging terrorism or to disseminate any material considered as terrorist, such as bomb-making information. Based on the so-called "notice and take down" procedures, Internet service providers can be required by companies, authorities and even individuals to remove illegal content such as terrorist material or child pornography. One measure could be the shutting down of allegedly faulty sites including sites hosted abroad. A list of banned sites could be drafted by the government, similarly to the one created by Internet Watch Foundation in 2004 which is up-dated twice a day blocking the access of Britons to overseas child pornography. Another method could be to ask search engines to filter out prohibited content from their search results, or to find ways to stop key words such as "bomb" from leading to terrorist-related sites. According to EDRI-member Ian Brown, researcher at the Oxford Internet Institute, the proposal is fundamentally a losing one and the proposed measures would have very little effectiveness as terrorist content could still be published through file-sharing networks, discussion forums, or access material by means of sophisticated software programs and proxy servers allowing users to anonymously browse the Internet. UK Wants Net Companies to Fight Terror (14.11.2007) http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iUjUtJoE-EKmRVrc3la5fFUp_8SgD8STLKU00 PM statement on security measures (14.11.2007) http://www.number10.gov.uk/output/Page13757.asp ============================================================ 11. PirateBay wants a new software standard to replace BitTorrent ============================================================ The Pirate Bay, the famous torrent Swedish website, may affect BitTorrent programme by developing a new software standard for Internet downloads. According to Peter Sunde, Pirate Bay's co-founder, the site might have a new, more open alternative of file-sharing software at the beginning of next year. In his opinion, BitTorrent might develop in the future some features discouraging the trade of some "pirated materials" which might affect very many users of the site. There are also fears that BitTorrent may gain total control over P2P traffic which led to the creation of a working group that will build an open protocol that could be further developed by anyone without being controlled by anybody. The working group has also in view the development of technical improvements to the current file-sharing methods including the optimisation of upload bandwidth and the increasing of the user privacy degree. BitTorrent's deal with Brightcove, a web distributor of video for CBS, News Corp's Fox Entertainment Group, Viacom, and New York Times can indeed be seen as a threat as commented Eric Garland, chief executive of BigChampagne, a company tracking file sharing. "Future development (of BitTorrent software) will almost certainly be focused on things that do not benefit or further the aims of the pirate" he said. In its turn, BitTorrent does not feel threatened by Pirate Bay's intentions. "We are not really disappointed here," declared Ashwin Navin, president and co-founder of BitTorrent who added: "The pirate community has never paid us a dime." NetzpolitikTV - Interview with Peter from ThePirateBay.org. (29.10.2007) http://netzpolitik.org/2007/netzpolitiktv-026-the-pirate-bay/ File-sharing pirates attempt new software standard (7.11.2007) http://www.news.com/2100-1032_3-6217386.html BitTorrent to be killed by Pirate Bay plans? (31.10.2007) http://www.tech.co.uk/computing/internet-and-broadband/news/bittorrent-to-be-killed-by-pirate-bay-plans?articleid=1639074113 ============================================================ 12. ENDitorial: CoE - Content Regulation: Break On Through; IPR: It's Tricky ============================================================ The 8th meeting of the Council of Europe (CoE) group of specialists on Human Rights in the Information Society (MC-S-IS) was held in Strasbourg on 29-30 October 2007. It was mainly dedicated to discussing draft documents on technical measures and their impact on human rights and particularly freedom of expression. Two areas were more specifically addressed: content regulation and intellectual property. In its position of independent NGO observer to the CoE MC-S-IS, EDRI voices its concerns when needed, including loudly by running campaigns, like the recent one against a new Recommendation failing to uphold online freedom of expression (Rec(2007)11). In this campaign, EDRI statement was endorsed by 34 national and international NGOs, including major freedom of expression, freedom of the press, and human rights groups. However, EDRI is also fully playing its role when promoting CoE outcomes likely to become important tools for online freedom of expression defenders. This is likely to happen very soon, provided that the draft 'Recommendation on measures to promote the respect for freedom of expression and information as regards technical filtering measures' and its accompanying draft "Report on the use and impact of technical filtering measures for various types of content in the online environment, with particular regard to Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights" are adopted without important modifications by the Steering Committee on the Media and New Communication Services (CDMC) during its next meeting, and then by the CoE Committee of ministers. Both draft documents have been adopted during this MC-S-IS meeting. Members and observers of the MC-S-IS group discussed the documents prepared by Austria (MC-S-IS group vice-chair) and Armenia representatives, with the help of the MC-S-IS Secretariat as well as of EDRI as observer. EDRI had the opportunity to suggest many changes to both documents before their submission to the whole group, and almost all these changes were included. As many members of the group acknowledged, this Recommendation would be the first important document breaking off the usual national, European and international rhetoric of "technical filtering panacea" to fight illegal or harmful content, in that it reintroduces the need to respect human rights standards, first and foremost freedom of expression, but also the right to privacy and other provisions of the European Convention of Human Rights, including the rule of law principle. One member, namely Norway, insisted though on the "impression the documents gave that governments wont be allowed to any content filtering of blocking" anymore, but it was rather isolated in such position. The final draft document recommends that CoE member States "take measures to promote the respect for freedom of expression and information as regards technical filtering measures in line with provided guidelines", as well as "to bring these guidelines to the attention of all relevant private and public sector stakeholders, in particular those who design, activate, use and monitor technical filtering measures, and civil society, so that they can contribute to their implementation." The draft Recommendation sets out detailed guidelines on: (I) "Using and controlling filters in order to fully exercise and enjoy the right to freedom of expression and information", (II) "Appropriate filtering for children and young people", and (III) "Use and application of filtering systems by State actors and the private sector". Another set of draft documents discussed at the same meeting was far from receiving the same welcome, and it is not even likely to be adopted soon, if at all. These documents are a draft "Recommendation on freedom of expression and information and intellectual property rights in the new information and communications environment" and its accompanying draft report on emerging issues and trends in this context. The former was prepared by Switzerland representative (MC-S-IS group chair) with the help of the Secretariat, and the latter by the Secretariat and an informal working group made up of representatives from France, Malta, Norway and INSAFE/European SchoolNet observer representative. While EDRI has not taken part in the preparation of these documents, it found the drafts submitted for discussion a very positive achievement, and expressed this position to the MC-S-IS group. However, the documents generated an incredibly heated discussion, to the extent that some member States showed a truly blocking attitude, even trying to claim that these issues were out of the MC-S-IS group mandate, and, as if this was not enough, to question the ability of its members and observers to discuss issues dealing with intellectual property. The strongest opponent to the documents was undoubtedly Norway, followed, though less aggressively, by Finland, France and Portugal. ENPA (European Newspaper Publishers' Association) joined this opponent group as observer. In addition to Switzerland, Austria and Armenia advocated in favour of the draft documents, joined by EDRI, INSAFE/European SchoolNet and EBU (European Broadcasting Union) as observers. As the MC-S-IS group chair and vice-chair clarified, these documents specifically address the protection of freedom of expression when using intellectual property digital rights management techniques, which is clearly within the group mandate, especially since a former expert group on copyright issues does not exist anymore, its mandate having been transferred to the MC-S-IS group. It was also reminded that it is the responsibility of the MC-S-IS group to address and explore any issue within its mandate, even controversial ones. Main contentious points relate to guidelines in view of promoting access to knowledge and education, of assisting IP right holders to self-determine how their protected works can be accessed, and of promoting innovative systems of remuneration for right holders who want to allow their protected works to be used and/or reused. The issue should be again on the agenda of next MC-S-IS meetings in 2008. In the mean time, the MC-S-IS group will elaborate a synthesis of main points of disagreement and report to the CDMC. One of the decisions to be made is whether this activity would lead to a CoE Recommendation or to other, even less normative, kind of document or action (some even suggested yet another conference). In this latter case, EDRI and many other NGOs would likely have to consider this as surrender to main lobbies. In addition to these two main discussions, the MC-S-IS group had a quick preliminary exchange of views regarding two possible future documents on understanding the freedom of expression and information with regard to the work of Internet service providers on the one hand, and of online game providers on the other hand. A third document, not yet drafted, is also foreseen on the work of social networking sites operators. A short discussion was held on their relevance, even though these documents would be a set of guidelines for concerned actors rather than normative documents intended to State members. The group agreed that, more generally speaking, web 2.0 services should be addressed in relation with the respect for human rights and human dignity. An informal working group will start preparing inputs on this issue, participants being Switzerland and France, with EDRI as observer. Moreover, the group considered the establishment of a "standard-setting instrument which promotes a coherent pan-European level of protection for children from harmful content when using new communication technologies and services and the Internet, while ensuring freedom of expression and the free flow of information". The general mood inclined towards the lack of relevance of such activity, especially after Austria, Armenia, and EDRI as observer strongly warned of the difficulty, if not the impossibility, to agree on a general definition of harmful content, taking into account the diversity of cultures, values and sensibilities at the pan-European level. Finally, the group had to consider possible new work topics, in view of the renewal of MC-S-IS terms of reference and of the suggestion of themes for the 1st European Ministerial Conference on media and new communication services, to be held in Reykjavik in May 2009 as decided by the CDMC 5th meeting. In addition to the respect for human rights and human dignity in web2.0 that was already decided, search engines as well as the respect for privacy have been suggested by EDRI. Next regular MC-S-IS meeting is scheduled in late March 2008. CoE MC-S-IS public website http://www.coe.int/t/e/human_rights/media/1_intergovernmental_co-operation/MC-S-IS EDRI-gram: CoE to address the impact of technical measures on human rights (12.04.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.7/coe-human-rights EDRI campaign on new CoE recommendation failing to uphold online freedom of expression (10.10.2007) http://www.edri.org/coerec200711-signatories CDMC 5th meeting report (12.09.2007) http://www.coe.int/t/e/human_rights/media/1_intergovernmental_co%2Doperation/CDMC (Contribution by Meryem Marzouki, EDRI member IRIS - France) ============================================================ 13. Recommended Reading ============================================================ Council of Europe Recommendation CM/Rec(2007)16 of the Committee of Ministers to member states on measures to promote the public service value of the Internet, adopted on 7 November 2007 https://wcd.coe.int/ViewDoc.jsp?Ref=CM/Rec(2007)16 Council of Europe Submission to the Internet Governance Forum, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, 12-15 November 2007, "Building a free and safe Internet" http://www.coe.int/t/dc/files/events/internet/ ============================================================ 14. Agenda ============================================================ 29-30 November 2007, Skopje, Macedonia The International Conference e-Society.Mk on inclusive e-Government http://www.e-society.org.mk 3-4 December 2007, Bonn, Germany Network Neutrality - Implications for Europe http://www.wik.org/content/netneutrality_main.htm 4-5 December 2007, Rome, Italy First QualiPSo Conference - Fostering trust and quality of Open Source Software systems http://www.qualipso.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=63&Itemid=64 5-7 December 2007, Pisa, Italy Second DELOS Conference on Digital Libraries http://www.delos.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=606&Itemid=337 27-30 December, Berlin, Germany 24th Chaos Communication Congress http://events.ccc.de/congress/2007/Main_Page 17 January 2008, London, UK Nanotechnology for security and the crime prevention III http://www.nano.org.uk/events/ionevents.htm#security ============================================================ 15. 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I think a lot of Japanese government behavior just tracks what the US does and often is "encouraged" by the US. 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We respect your privacy - we guarantee you a total anonymity of your 0rder. Visit Can4daRxSt0re online at: http://www.kjenwnnww.com/ From camera_lumina at hotmail.com Fri Nov 23 14:10:09 2007 From: camera_lumina at hotmail.com (Tyler Durden) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:10:09 -0500 Subject: Kissinger: Nation-State Collapsing, Film At 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Huh? Me, a leftist? OK, I read Chomsky sometimes. He's right about some things. The one (only?) thing the best leftists are good at is pointing to a lot of the bad shit in 'capitalist' (read: US) society that nobody wants to see. But as for the communists, war has had little to do with it. The soviets in the end beat themselves and imploded their economy, and the practical Chinese recognized the inevitable. Come to think of it, the one thing that might end up killing the US is the hard-on sported by the so-called right wing to convert the US economy into a command-driven one via the military industrial complex. In other words, the problem with the republicans is that they're Stalinists in disguise and, as you look to point out, supply and demand (or physics) will get them in the end: You can only print up so much funny money. As for winning in Vietnam...do you mean in this universe? And saying that we were 'winning' except for the cut in funds is kinda like saying "we were winning except for running out of bullets and soldiers"... -TD> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:02:01 -0500> To: camera_lumina at hotmail.com; clips at philodox.com; dgcchat at dgcchat.com; cypherpunks at al-qaeda.net> From: rah at shipwright.com> Subject: RE: Kissinger: Nation-State Collapsing, Film At 11> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----> Hash: SHA1> > At 6:28 AM -0500 11/18/07, Tyler Durden wrote:> >The Vietcong chased our guys up the stairs of the ebassy to the choppers.> > After a so-called "democratic" congress took away *all* their money?> > We were winning in Viet Nam. Hell, we *won* the Tet "offensive", for that> matter.> > We lost on college campae, where history is written, apparently, by losers.> And in the media, which is the first draft of same, also written by losers,> in the long run.> > Unwash you mind, Tyler, and learn not to regurgitate leftism so much, hmmm?> > Yes, boys and girls, "empires" are, currently, like for the last 12,000> years or so, what happens when you win too many fights. Life's a bitch and> then the empire falls. Which is what Kissinger, oddly enough, is saying.> Which is nonetheless true even if The Dick Cheney, er, Darth Vader, Of The> Nixon Administration said it.> > Better inside the tent pissing out, frankly.> > If you really want to freak your knee-jerk reflex out, go read, horrors,> Victor Davis Hanson's "Carnage and Culture", and come back when you change> your underwear. The west wins wars because it makes more stuff and kills> more people. The VietCommies are knocking on *our* door to do business, not> us on theirs. They used the *West's* technology, and even one of its more> broken pseudo-sciences-cum-religions, Marxism, because they had none of> their own that would work. Still do.> > Certainly, crypto, and geodesic networks, have the potential to re-organize> society, because society maps pretty much to is communications> architectures, but, at the moment, we're still stuck in a world of> hierarchy and book-entry transactions. Lots of people nailing manifestos on> the church doors (see this list, 15 years ago, now...), but nobody's> printed 'em for the peasants and princes to read and burn down the> cathedrals with yet.> > Though, strangely enough, Kissinger himself notes, underneath his black> helmet and around puffs of his ventilator, and if you can bestill your> jerking knees that long to read that far, that the nation-state's days are> numbered.> > Probably, I would claim, because of geodesic networks, and maybe even> crypto :-).> > Kewl.> > Cheers,> RAH> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----> Version: PGP Desktop 9.0.6 (Build 6060)> > iQA/AwUBR0BwB8PxH8jf3ohaEQKUwwCgqhgDzNCSn3s3qMZGiB+mLiQLJ50An3Dw> eeK89iW2Zto4yDV0kDK0Q3N0> =wn6r> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----> > -- > -----------------> R. A. 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During the Variola debates concerning how much NSA could actually backhaul, I made the point that some a lot could probably be ascertained by looking at what NSA was funding publicly. For example, by looking at NSA funding of burst-mode optical networking, one could infer that NSA probably has a significant gap in terms of what they WANT to grab and what they actually can grab and backhaul (plus, there are certain fundamental limits to optical systems that would lead one to conclude something similar). This, I believe, is confirmed by what was revealed about the NSA "secret room" in AT&T's CO in the Bay Area. Arguably, a well-done and perhaps trust-based wiki could wiggle a lot of out what NSA is involved in, but of course there'd still be huge gaps. On the other hand, in some areas (such as chip fabrication) I think it's getting safe to say that NSA can't be more than one generation ahead of existing fabrication technologies, if at all. 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BTW if you compare the US-VISIT and the Japanese system, you would notice the similarity of both and would wonder who did system intergration. Gohsuke Takama ------------------------------------------------------- http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml? cmd[347]=x-347-558619 PI leads coalition of organisations against Japanese Government plans for fingerprinting at border 19/11/2007 Today, in a coalition with 18 Japanese rights groups, Privacy International delivered a letter to the Japanese Minister of Justice to protest against the implementation of a fingerprinting system and face-scanning system at its borders. All visitors and many foreign residents to Japan will be fingerprinted under this plan. Our letter to the Minister is endorsed by 68 organisations from 30 countries. In our letter, we show that there are numerous problems with the Government's plans. On top of infringing the rights to privacy of all visitors to Japan, the Japanese will run the risk of repeating the mistakes encountered by the U.S. Government in its border management systems that have lead to serious technology and management failures. We call on the Minister to reconsider their plans for treating business visitors and tourists as though they are terrorists. The letter is available in PDF at http://www.privacyinternational.org/issues/borders/lettertojapan.pdf . A version of the letter is available below, though within footnote references. -------------- The Rt Honourable Kunio Hatoyama Minister of Justice 1-1-1 Kasumigaseki Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Nippon November 19, 2007 Dear Minister Hatoyama Regarding plans to fingerprint and face-scan all visitors to Japan We, the undersigned human rights and civil liberties groups from around the world are writing to you to express our grave concerns regarding the Ministry of Justice's imminent implementation of the Immigration Control and Refugee Recognition Act. We believe that your plans to fingerprint and face-scan foreign- residents and visitors to Japan are a gross and disproportionate infringement upon civil liberties, copying the most ineffective, costly and risky practices on border management from around the world. We respectfully call on you to reconsider your plans to implement this system. We also call on you to explain to the world why potential visitors should travel to your country and face these inconveniences when you have done so little to explain the nature of this human processing. We believe it is likely that the implementation of this system will create a negative impact on your tourism industry and on the flow of foreign workers to Japan, thus hurting Japan's economy and in turn giving rise to possible claims of Japanese isolationism. Background According to your plans for Immigration Control: "In order to detect and oust, at the border, terrorists or foreign nationals who have been deported from Japan or committed crimes, one effective method is to further enhance measures against forged and falsified documents and to utilize biometrics in immigration examinations. In order to take facial portraits and fingerprint data during landing examinations of foreign nationals under the bAction Plan for Prevention of Terrorismb (as adopted at the Headquarters for Promotion of Measures Against Transnational Organized Crime and Other Relative Issues and International Terrorism on December 10, 2004), necessary preparations will be made by putting in order points for us to keep in mind, observing relevant measures taken by foreign countries and developing relevant law." It has come to our attention that you plan to implement this system within a matter of weeks that you will face-scan and fingerprint all visitors to Japan and retain this information for an extended period of time (some reports claim that you intend to do so for up to 80 years), and combine this data with other sources of personal information. Infringing upon the Right to Privacy Your plans are in breach of individuals' human rights, and in particular, their right to privacy. The right to privacy is recognized specifically by numerous international human rights treaties. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights recognises the right to privacy under Article 12. Similar language is adopted in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights under Article 17, the United Nations (UN) Convention on Migrant Workers in Article 14, and the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child under Article 16. We note that the Japanese Supreme Court has recognized the right to privacy under Article 13 of the Japanese Constitution. Your system proposes to indiscriminately collect sensitive personal information from all foreign travellers. This mass project for the processing of human beings is tantamount to treating all visitors to your country as though they were criminals. We are surprised by the lack of information regarding proposed safeguards and appeal methods. Instead we hear rhetoric about the importance of combating terrorism and threats to force the return of anyone who fails to comply with this new requirement. This is particularly worrisome because Japan's privacy laws are regarded as weak by international standards. We note that Japan has to some extent applied international standards such as the OECD's Privacy Guidelines into two recent privacy laws. The law that covers commercial entities partially follows international standards, yet the law that applies to the use and sharing of data held by government agencies is very weak. This decreases our confidence that your government has the necessary accountability structures to collect such vast amounts of personal information. The protection of human rights is at its weakest when individuals are waiting for entry at the border of a foreign country. Traditionally, governments afforded respect to visitors from other nations on the basis of reciprocity: if you treat one nation's citizens with respect that nation's government will treat yours similarly. Japan is showing a remarkable level of disrespect to the dignity of tourists and foreign business travellers by collecting detailed information on them, in an indiscriminate manner as a condition of entry, with no promise of safeguards, or any means of appeal. We also note that the Japanese Government previously criticised systems such as the one you are about to implement. In 2002 at a meeting of the International Civil Aviation Organisation the Japanese delegation stated that "the Japanese people are saddened by the approach of the United States", and the delegation could not understand "why the United States can not longer trust Japanese citizens" and that the unilateral use of biometrics will have a negative impact on the 17 million Japanese that visit the U.S. every year. We are surprised by this turn of events and opinion. A Complex and Risky System The collection of all this personal information and its centralisation into databases will create privacy risks, and will also lead to likely security risks. We believe that Japan is making a grave mistake by following the path forged by the United States of America with its US-VISIT programme. Until the implementation of your system, the U.S. was alone in the world in fingerprinting and face-scanning all visitors and retaining this information for vast periods of time. Years into their programme it is clear that the U.S. should serve as a cautionary tale rather than as an example of best practice. The US-VISIT system was approved in a similar manner to the Japanese system. That is, it was approved through a highly political environment with little public debate or policy deliberation. In the U.S., the government relied on its rhetoric about fighting terrorism and crime rather than careful policy development and deployment. Now, years later, the US-VISIT system is finally receiving some of its much needed oversight, and the reality of advanced border systems is becoming clear. According to U.S. Government reports, we now know that: b after spending $1.3 billion over 4 years, only half the U.S. system has been delivered. b expenditures continue on projects that "are not well- defined, planned, or justified on the basis of costs, benefits, and risks", lacking "a sufficient basis for effective program oversight and accountability". b the U.S. government has "continued to invest in US-VISIT without a clearly defined operational context that includes explicit relationships with related border security and immigration enforcement initiatives". b "management controls to identify and evaluate computer and operational problems were insufficient and inconsistently administered" and thus "continues to face longstanding US-VISIT management challenges and future uncertainties" as it continues to "fall short of expectations". b "lacking acquisition and financial management controls", and project managers have failed to "economically justify its investment in US-VISIT increments or assess their operational impacts", "had not assessed the impact of the entry and exit capabilities on operations and facilities, in part, because the scope of the evaluations performed were too limited." b "contracts have not been effectively managed and overseen". b and finally, security "weaknesses collectively increase the risk that unauthorized individuals could read, copy, delete, add, and modify sensitive information, including personally identifiable information, and disrupt the operations of the US-VISIT program." According to the chairman of the U.S. Senate Homeland Security Committee, Senator Joseph Lieberman, the U.S. government "is spending $1.7 billion of taxpayer money on a program to detect potential terrorists crossing our borders yet it isn't taking the most basic precautions to keep them from hacking into and changing or deleting sensitive information." It is therefore of little surprise that the U.S. border systems occasionally fail. On a number of occasions the U.S. border systems have broken down resulting in thousands of people being forced to wait until the system problems could be resolved. For instance, in August 2007, 20,000 travellers were left stranded at Los Angeles airport, with visitors spending the night on the airport floors and planes prevented from even coming into the gates for passengers (both citizens and visitors) to de-plane because the airport was overwhelmed. More stories are emerging from around the world where weak security protocols have made personal information held on visa databases widely available to the public and potential identity thieves, and where fingerprint mismatches have lead to gross injustices. Without competent planning and care, visitors to Japan have no reason to be confident that the personal information that they are forced to disclose will be adequately protected by your system. Towards Effective Border Management? Japan should be careful not to follow the U.S. lead. Recent surveys have shown that the U.S. is now rated as the worst place to visit because of its immigration and entry procedures, followed by the Middle East. There are better ways of greeting visitors to your country than treating tourists and business travelers as though they were terrorists. There are privacy-friendly ways of identifying criminals at borders without invading the privacy of all visitors and making them vulnerable to identity theft through the leakage of data from your systems. For instance, border officials could verify passports against the INTERPOL list of lost and stolen passports from around the world. Remarkably so few countries actually do this. It would be a far more effective and proportionate solution. Even this step must be made with great care as errors are still likely which will inhibit the flow of travellers. As an example, in a test of 1.9 million passport records collected over 16 days by U.S. border officials, 273 documents were identified as stolen documents. Eventually however, 219 cases were cleared and 64 remained unresolved. As with any watchlist program, clear oversight and accountability structures must be established to allow for the necessary appeals against erroneous data. We have already seen numerous problems with the U.S. watchlists wrongly flagging innocent individuals as terrorists, growing out of control with serious integrity problems. We expect that any system your government implements will likely give rise to similar problems. In our experiences, technological systems fail most when they do not receive adequate policy deliberation. We also believe that immigration policy is a complex domain that rarely attracts the necessary attention and deliberative care that it deserves. Your plans to fingerprint and face-scan every visitor to your country appears to exemplify this risk. It is unfortunate that we could not offer our views earlier but your consultation was only conducted in the Japanese language. Your plans will damage Japan's standing in the world, making a wonderful and beautiful country less inviting to tourists, and will unnecessarily hurt Japan's role as a global economic leader. If serious changes to your plans are not made, we worry that individuals who are concerned about the privacy and security of their personal information will avoid travel to Japan. Please reconsider your plans. Also, please note, that if you move down this path, other governments may well follow and will start fingerprinting your own citizens on the grounds that you do it to theirs. These systems will likely be as complex, risky and insecure as yours. This is not the type of world that you, your citizens or we would like to live in. Yours sincerely, c Privacy International c Action on Rights for Children (UK) APC Africa Women (Africa) APC.au (Australia) ArabDev (Egypt) Asian Coalition for Housing Rights (Japan) Association For Progressive Communications (International) Associazione per la Liberta` nella Comunicazione Elettronica Interattiva (Italy) ATTAC Japan (Japan) Australian Privacy Foundation (Australia) AZUR Developpement (Congo) Big Brother Awards (France) Bluelink (Bulgaria) British Columbia Civil Liberties Association (Canada) BytesForAll.org (South Asia) Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (Canada) Colnodo (Colombia) Community Education Computer Society (South Africa) Digital Rights (Denmark) Digital Rights Ireland Electronic Frontier Finland (Finland) Electronic Frontier Foundation (US) Electronic Privacy Information Center (US) European Digital Rights (EU) Fantsuam Foundation (Nigeria) Focus on the Global South (Asia) Foundation for Information Policy Research (FIPR) Foundation For Media Alternatives (Philippines) GreenNet (UK) Greenspider (Hungary) Index on Censorship (International) International Civil Liberties Monitoring Group (International) International Movement Against All Forms of Discrimination and Racism (Japan) International Solidarity Action of the Have-Nots (Japan) IRIS - Imaginons un reB4seau Internet solidaire (France) Iuridicum Remedium (Czech Republic) Japan Computer Access for Empowerment (Japan) Japan Lawyers Network for Refugees (Japan) JCA-NET(Japan) Jinbonet (South Korea) Joint Labor Union of Christian Offices and Businesses (Japan) Laneta (Mexico) Network Against JUKINET(Japan) Networkers against Surveillance Task-force (Japan) Netzwerk Neue Medien (Germany) No2ID (UK) NODO Tau (Argentina) OneWorld Platform South West Europe (Bosnia-Herzegovina) Open Rights Group (UK) Peace Boat (Japan) Peace Not War Japan (Japan) People's Coalition against Wiretapping Law and Organized Crime Law (Japan) People's Plan Study Group(PPSG) (Japan) PINCH! Against War and Surveillance (Japan) Privacy Journal (US) RITS - Information Network for the Third Sector (Brazil) San'ya Welfare Center for Day-Laborers' Association (Japan) Sex Worker and Sexual Health (Japan) Solidarity Network with Migrants Japan (Japan) Statewatch (UK) StrawberryNet (Romania) Swiss Association to Defend Fundamental Rights (Switzerland) Swiss Internet User Group (Switzerland) Ungana Afrika (Africa) VOICE (Bangladesh) Wamani (Argentina) WiLAC (Uruguay) WomensNet (South Africa) At 8:28 PM -0500 11.22.07: >Begin forwarded message: > >From: Joichi Ito >Date: November 22, 2007 4:26:14 PM EST >To: dave at farber.net >Cc: ip at v2.listbox.com >Subject: Re: [IP] Re: fingerprinting in Japan > >The US requires fingerprints for many kinds of visas including some >benefits for permanent residents. Also, I think they require a >photograph showing your earlobe as another biometric. It's on your >card. It is slightly different from requiring a finger print every >time you enter the country, but it's not really true that >"fingerprinting requirements don't apply to permanent residents." > >See: >http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=b6629c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=b6629c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD > >Also, as far as I know, the Japanese are not fingerprinting transit >passengers. My understanding is that even if you are just connecting >via a US city, you still have to fill out the forms and get scanning. > >Basically I think that expecting us to go through US fingerprinting >to visit the US, then deciding not to go to Japan because of >fingerprinting is slightly hypocritical unless you have been vocally >opposed to the fingerprinting in the US. > >Anyway, maybe this is a good opportunity for American who travel to >Japan to take a good look at what the US does to its visitors and be >reflective. I think a lot of Japanese government behavior just >tracks what the US does and often is "encouraged" by the US. See >crypto exports, the new Japanese corporate law or "JSOX" and >copyright terms for other examples. > >- Joi > >From: "Brock N. Meeks" >Date: November 22, 2007 7:28:47 PM EST >To: >Subject: Re: [IP] Re: fingerprinting in Japan > >Yep, it's a heinous U.S. policy as well; does that make it OK for >others to >emulate? > >But hey, I'd advocate the same thing: stay home; don't come to the >U.S. > >------------------------------------------- >Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now >RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ >Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl leitl http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE From dave at farber.net Sat Nov 24 01:21:48 2007 From: dave at farber.net (David Farber) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:21:48 -0500 Subject: [IP] fingerprinting in Japan letter from Privacy Internationa Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: From firebird at genie.co.uk Fri Nov 23 23:11:08 2007 From: firebird at genie.co.uk (Bud Silver) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 07:11:08 +0000 Subject: Christmas Message-ID: <765966870.51011219507850@genie.co.uk> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Charette Photo: Jonathan Romano ROAD TO PERDITION: In early 2005, engineers stationed in Iraq were B-inspecting this road when an improvised explosive device went off. An officer and his interpreter died in the blast. At the upper right is an iRobot PackBot used to B-investigate IED sites. On the afternoon of Thursday, 8 April 2004, U.S. troops stationed in Iraq deployed a small remote-controlled robot to search for improvised explosive devices. The robot, a PackBot unit made by iRobot Corp., of Burlington, Mass., found an IED, but the discovery proved its undoing. The IED exploded, reducing the robot to small, twisted pieces of metal, rubber, and wire. The confrontation between robot and bomb reflects a grim paradox of the ongoing conflict in Iraq. The PackBot's destruction may have prevented the IED from claiming a soldier's lifebas of 31 August, IEDs accounted for nearly half of the 3299 combat deaths reported by coalition forces. But the fact remains that a US $100 000 piece of machinery was done in by what was probably a few dollars' worth of explosives, most likely triggered using a modified cellphone, a garage-door opener, or even a toy's remote control. During the past four and a half years, the United States and its allies in Iraq have fielded the most advanced and complex weaponry ever developed. But they are still not winning the war. Although there has been much debate and finger-pointing over the various failures and setbacks suffered during the prolonged conflict, some military analysts and counterterrorism experts say that, at its heart, this war is radically different from previous ones and must be thought of in an entirely new light. bWhat we are seeing is the empowerment of the individual to conduct war,b says John Robb, a counterterrorism expert and author of the book Brave New War (John Wiley & Sons), which came out in April. While the concept of asymmetric warfare dates back at least 2000 years, to the Chinese military strategist Sun-tzu, the conflict in Iraq has redefined the nature of such struggles [see photo, bRoad to Perditionb As events are making painfully clear, Robb says, warfare is being transformed from a closed, state-sponsored affair to one where the means and the know-how to do battle are readily found on the Internet and at your local RadioShack. This open global access to increasingly powerful technological tools, he says, is in effect allowing bsmall groups tob&declare war on nations.b Need a missile-guidance system? Buy yourself a Sony PlayStation 2. Need more capability? Just upgrade to a PS3. Need satellite photos? Download them from Google Earth or Microsoft's Virtual Earth. Need to know the current thinking on IED attacks? Watch the latest videos created by insurgents and posted on any one of hundreds of Web sites or log on to chat rooms where you can exchange technical details with like-minded folks. Robb calls this new type of conflict bopen-source warfare,b because the manner in which insurgent groups are organizing themselves, sharing information, and adapting their strategies bears a strong resemblance to the open-source movement in software development. Insurgent groups, like open-source software hackers, tend to form loose and nonhierarchical networks to pursue a common vision, Robb says. United by that vision, they exchange information and work collaboratively on tasks of mutual interest. Photo: Luke Wolagiewicz/WPN; Kareem Raheem/Reuters FAST, CHEAP & OUT OF CONTROL: Improvised explosive devices made from cellphones, radios, old mortars, and other low-tech mechanisms have exacted an B-enormous toll in Iraq. And just as in the software community, information technology and the Internet play a pivotal role in bringing insurgents together. The resurrection of al-Qaeda is a good example, says Brian Jackson, a terrorism expert and associate director of the Homeland Security Program at Rand Corp. bGiven the structural changes that were required of al-Qaeda to adapt to its loss of Afghanistan as a safe haven,b Jackson says, bthe interconnections among disparate parts of the decentralized organization that the Internet made possible have been important for its survival.b The reliance on IT also enables open-source groups to identify and respond to problems much more rapidly than a more structured, top-down entity canbbe it the Pentagon or a large software company such as Microsoft. According to some estimates, it now takes Iraqi insurgents less than a month to adapt their methods of attack, much faster than coalition troops can respond. bFor every move we make, the enemy makes three,b U.S. Brigadier General Joe E. Ramirez Jr. told attendees at a May conference on IEDs. bThe enemy changes techniques, tactics, and procedures every two to three weeks. Our biggest task is staying current and relevant.b Unfortunately, the traditional weaponsB-acquisition process, which dictates how the United States and other Western militaries define and develop new weapons systems, is simply not designed to operate on such a fleeting timescale. It can take years and sometimes decadesbnot to mention many millions or billions of dollarsbfor a new military machine to move from concept to design to testing and out into the field. Worse, the vast majority of the battlefield technologies now wending their way through the acquisition bureaucracy were intended to fight large force-on-force battles among sovereign nations, not the guerrilla warfare that typifies the conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere. Meanwhile, time is on the insurgents' side. Since the start of the war, the consumer-grade products on which they rely have undergone several generations of improvement. Microprocessor speeds, for instance, have leaped by a factor of at least four in that time, while the cost per MIPSbor million instructions per second, a standard benchmark for processorsbhas dropped by roughly 70 percent. This past spring and summer I interviewed dozens of current and former military officers, analysts, weapons developers, and others to try to understand why the coalition forces' technological might has proved so ineffectual. Nearly everyone I spoke with agreed there is a serious mismatch between the West's industrial-age approach to warfare and the insurgents' more fluid and adaptive style. All agreed, too, that the West will likely face more such confrontations in the years and decades ahead. The big concern, many people told me, is that once the war in Iraq has ended, the innovation that has occurred there and the lessons learned will be lost as the Pentagon returns to bbusiness as usualbbthat is, building enormously complex and costly weapons systems and training troops to fight large-scale wars. To understand open-source warfare, it's instructive to revisit Eric S. Raymond's 1997 manifesto, The Cathedral and the Bazaar, in which he describes how a large community of open-source software hackers created the operating system Linux. bLinux is subversive,b Raymond wrote. bWho would have thought even five years ago [1991] that a world-class operating system could coalesce as if by magic out of part-time hacking by several thousand developers scattered all over the planet, connected only by the tenuous strands of the Internet?b He likened the rise of Linux to the public marketplace of the bazaar. The programmers agreed to observe a few simple principles but were otherwise free to innovate and create. Raymond contrasted that style with the bcathedralb approach to software, in which a single organization, using highly planned, sequentially structured steps, maintained tight managerial control over every aspect of the process. Eventually, the open-source culture would triumph over the proprietary world, Raymond argued, not because it was morally right bbut simply because the closed-source world cannot win an evolutionary arms race with open-source communities that can put orders of magnitude more skilled time into a problem.b Photo: Luke Wolagiewicz/WPN; Kareem Raheem/Reuters BOMB BUILDING 101: These Arabic-language Web sites offer how-to tips on constructing homemade explosives. The factual information is often sketchy, though. In studying the behaviors of insurgencies in Iraq and elsewhere, as well as organized-crime syndicates and other groups, Robb noticed the many parallels to the open-source model in software. In addition to working in counterterrorism, he has also had a successful career as a software entrepreneur. Groups like al-Qaeda resemble in some ways the classic insurgents of the past, such as the Palestine Liberation Organization, but several factors distinguish them from their predecessors, Robb says. For one, they aren't state-sponsored, which makes them harder to track down and eradicate. Being self-financed, they generate significant income from donations as well as from black-market commerce. Also, members of the group don't report to a central authority; they operate relatively autonomously, and they tend to be well educated, media-savvy, and comfortable operating in a globalized, high-tech world. And the use of information technology has given modern terrorists an operational edge their predecessors lacked. Mimicking open-source developers, insurgent groups bhack at the source code of warfare,b Robb says. By that, he means they aren't bound by the traditional rules of military engagement; they use whatever works, with their tactics, techniques, and procedures all open to scrutiny and improvement by the community. Although such groups are weak by conventional military B-benchmarksbthey'd clearly be outgunned and outmanned on an open battlefieldbthey can still threaten strong national militaries. That's because they don't aim to invade, hold, or govern territory, but rather to exert political influence by exhausting an adversary's capacity to fight back. Their preferred method of attack is to disrupt infrastructure, whether physical, financial, or political [see photos, bWorld at Warb bSystem disruption is going to be the main thrust of warfare for quite a long time,b Robb predicts. Rand CORP.'s Jackson has also studied terrorist organizations with an eye toward how they learn and share informationbwhich he discussed in a recent report titled bAptitude for Destruction.b Access to the Internet, Jackson says, has given such groups ba quantum leap in capability to get their message out.b Many of the insurgent groups in Iraq, he notes, bare very Internet-savvy in terms of using it as an information-B-dissemination medium.b The number of Web sites run by terrorists climbed from fewer than a dozen in 1997 to nearly 5000 in mid-2006, according to Gabriel Weimann, a professor of communications at the University of Haifa, in Israel, who has studied terrorism and the mass media. Not all of those sites pose a significant threat. Last year, a team of Pentagon analysts told Congress that of the thousands of jihadist sites they monitor, they closely watch fewer than 100bthe ones they deem the most hostile. Whereas the mass media used to control access to the public, Jackson says, insurgents now post videos and descriptions of their attacks online within hours of their occurrence, many of which are then picked up and replayed in the global media. AlbQaeda has a media affiliate that produces slick, branded video and audio files for online distribution. The videos are often encoded in multiple formats, so you can watch them on your cellphone or play them on a big-screen television. Some insurgents are even shooting in HDTV. Terrorist Web sites serve not only to spread propaganda but also to share knowledge among insurgent groups, Jackson says. That helps explain why the learning cycles among Iraqi insurgents are some 20 times as fast as the Irish Republican Army's were in Northern Ireland in the 1980s, according to military estimates. The SITE Institute, a group in Washington, D.C., that monitors terrorist Web activities, has documented numerous cases of technical know-how being exchanged online. These include a slide presentation posted on a password-protected Arabic-language forum purporting to teach bbeginner jihad fightersb how to rig a car bomb, as well as a training manualblinked to from various jihadist forumsbthat claims to cover explosives, poisons, and forgery, among other topics. To be sure, the technical information that goes up on such sites is not always to be trusted, notes Michael Kenney, an assistant professor of public policy at Pennsylvania State University in Harrisburg. bSome of the terrorist instructional manuals and online chat rooms that have received so much attention in the press are, in fact, littered with basic mistakes,b Kenney says. He had one of the world's leading explosives experts review some online training manuals. The expert found that bfor every four or five recipes, one may work, [but] only a trained eye can catchb the errors, Kenney says. Photo: Staff Sgt. Jason Robertson/DOD Photo HELP IS ON THE WAY: The Pentagon plans to send thousands of mine-resistant ambush-protected vehicles to Iraq in the coming year. But MRAP supply is lagging far behind demand. Kenney also wonders how much a budding guerrilla can learn by simply reading. bBuilding bombs with your bare hands is still the best way to learn how to build bombs,b he says. bShooting a firearm over and over is the best way to become a sharpshooter. These are skills that cannot really be learned from recipes that you download through the Internet.b& The reason Iraq has proven to be such a rich learning environment for insurgents has more to do with practical, on-the-ground opportunities for learning that the fighting provides.b Nevertheless, he agrees with Jackson that terrorist groups are proving to be fast learners. They're able to change their activities in response to practical experience and technical information, store this knowledge in practices and procedures, and select and retain routines that produce satisfactory results. As they gain experience, their learning cycles will only continue to shorten. All the bomb-building advice in the world would be meaningless, of course, if the materials to build those bombs weren't also easy to come by. But they are, and terrorist groups are proving adept at using commercial, off-the-shelf technology to create effective and low-cost weapons systems. A good example is last year's plot to smuggle common chemicals on board commercial flights using drink containers. The chemicals would then be mixed together to form explosives, which if detonated by a small charge from, say, a few modified AA batteries, could be powerful enough to bring down the aircraft. bAs the war winds down, the forces of standardization will reassert themselves. Thatbs likely to kill many of the innovations now in use on the battlefield.bb) Here again, information technology plays a crucial role. Fast and efficient worldwide distribution channels set up by the lhouses. bNothing they're doing is going to win any prizes from the Department of Defense for high tech, but the stuff is deadly,b says Lawrence Husick, a senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, in Philadelphia. bThey're using a huge variety of cheaply available stuff.b One recent innovation is IED detonators made from battery-powered doorbells. The doorbells consist of crude 400-kilohertz transmitters and receivers. bThey're sloppy as hell, but they are really hard to jam,b Husick says. That unconventional style of mine warfare is something coalition forces clearly didn't anticipate, and response has been slow. Earlier this year, for instance, the Pentagon decided to spend $25 billion on mine-resistant ambush-protected (MRAP) armored vehicles, whose V-shaped hulls and raised chassis make them better than armored Humvees at fending off bomb blasts [see photo, bHelp Is on the Wayb The price tag includes $750 million to airlift the 12-metric-ton vehicles to Iraq, instead of sending them by ship. In August, though, the Pentagon scaled back its schedule, saying only 1500 of the planned 3900 vehicles would be delivered by year's end. It's a race against time. As happened first to unarmored Humvees and then to armored Humvees, insurgents have made destroying MRAP vehicles a high priorityba btrophy kill,b as some observers call it. MRAP designs are already reportedly being rethought to deal with emerging insurgent tactics. You might think that the lag time was due to bureaucratic screwups, but in fact, that's just how long the bureaucracy takes to respond. Marine commanders in Iraq first requested MRAP vehicles in May 2006. Acquisition officials reviewed the request and ultimately approved it late in the year. By April, five suppliers had demonstrated they could meet survivability requirements, production numbers, and delivery timelines, and they were then awarded contracts. But ramping up production doesn't happen overnight. Before MRAP vehicles became a high priority, the sole manufacturer, Force Protection, in Ladson, S.C., was making only about five per month. Photo: from top left: Sultan al-Fahd/Reuters; Anjthe Cold War endedband with it, the pressure to build large numbers of complex weapon systemsbdecisions made decades earlier continued to prevail. There has been no shortage of attempts to streamline B-weapons acquisition. Since 1975, at least 129 studies have been conducted on how to reform the process and make it more rational and responsive. Few of the recommendations have had any lasting impact, though. A March 2006 GAO report found that for the largest acquisition programs, the average estimated development time has risen from 11 years to 14 years. Even if you could design an F-22 in a single day, it would still take years to prepare the paperwork to win funding and more years of operational tests before the plane could go into full-scale production. The financial stakes work against reform. In a report to Congress earlier this year, David Walker, comptroller general of the United States, said that annual U.S. investments in major weapons systems had doubled between 2001 and 2006, from $750 billion to more than $1.5 trillion. Many of the defense experts I spoke with advocate a separate acquisition process to deal with the type of irregular warfare now being fought in Iraq. Robb, for one, isn't convinced that this would make much of a difference. bThe big-war crowd doesn't want to understand open-source warfare,b he says. As Upton Sinclair once said, bIt is hard to get a man to understand something if his living depends on him not understanding it.b Faced with the crisis in Iraq, the Pentagon has made a number of attempts to speed up the acquisitions process. The U.S. Army, for example, has established a Rapid Fielding Initiative to try to shorten the time it takes to get requested equipment to soldiers. That has enabled the deployment of the Advanced Combat Helmet, which offers better protection, comfort, and hearing, and an improved first-aid kit for treating bleeding and removing airway obstructions. The Army's Rapid Equipping Force identifies unconventional commercial products that may be of use on the battlefield. Industrial leaf blowers, for instancuiring the equipment they'll ultimately get. No sustained attempt has been made to create an insurgent-resilient model of acquisition. bWhat do you do when women and children come out with spray cans and hammers and start attacking your robots?bb) What all this likely means is that when the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan finally end, the Pentagon's current bcathedralb approach will envelop robots, UCAVs, and any other interesting technology developed in the heat of battle. bAs the war winds down, the forces of standardization will reassert themselves,b says Rand Corp. vice president Thomas McNaugher, an expert on defense acquisition. bThat's likely to kill many of the innovations now in use on the battlefield.b Robb says the solution is for defense acquisition to move away from what he calls bpoint innovationsbbthat is, stand-alone systemsbto platform-based systems. A platform, he explains, is a collection of services and capabilities that everyone gets access to. Think of the Internet and how eBay and Google exploit it. How would such platforms work in the military sphere? Consider a project under way at the Space Vehicle Directorate at Kirtland Air Force Base, in New Mexico. Researchers are attempting to design inexpensive bplug and playb satellites that could be fielded in six days or less. Each satellite would be built from a set of standard components that could then be quickly programmed to fit the specific mission. To avoid getting trapped in a one-size-fits-all mentality, says Jim Lyke, technical advisor to the project and its principal electronics engineer, bWe intentionally made it easy to swap out a small battery for a big battery, [an] X-band radio for a Ku-band radio, and so on.b The concept is sort of like adding components and loading software onto your PC, depending on whether you want to create spreadsheets, play games, or listen to music. bWe are waging a battle against complexity,b Lyke says. The six-day target bbecame a rallying theme to force us way out of our comfort zone.b Lind of the Free Congress Foundation says it's also important to capture the innovations going on in the trenches. bThere is a tremendous amount of creativity at the junior level, but there is no outlet for it. We need to richly resource sergeants and let them tinker,b he says. bThe kinds of technology that are useful in these wars are what I call garage and junkyard technologies.b The original armor for Humvees, for instance, was cobbled together by soldiers in the field, who dubbed it bhillbilly armor.b Once a useful technology has been discovered, Lind adds, that information can be rapidly conveyed using the military's secure intranets. The idea is to make use of information and IT just as the insurgents do. Meanwhile, what is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan is only a foreshadowing of the types of conflicts that Western countries will likely face in the coming decades. Insurgent learning will continue long after coalition forces have withdrawn from those countries. To face this future, it seems clear that the West urgently needs an insurgent-resilient process for developing and fielding effective military systems and tactics, along with a radical change in strategic thinking. bWe have to look outside the normal bureaucratic way of doing things,b U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates noted at a press conference in June. bFor every month we delay, scores of young Americans are going to die.b If the United States and its allies fail to embrace the need for change, they will inevitably pay the cost in both treasure and blood. About the Author Contributing Editor Robert N. Charette is an IEEE B-member and risk-analysis expert in Spotsylvania, Va. His blog Risk Factor is at http://blogs.spectrum.ieee.org/riskfactor. To Probe Further Michael Kenneybs From Pablo to Osama: Trafficking and Terrorist Networks, Government Bureaucracies, and Competitive Adaptation(Penn State University Press, 2007) looks at the learning styles of terrorists and drug traffickers. John Robb's Brave New War: The Next Stage of Terrorism and the End of Globalization (John Wiley & Sons, 2007) describes the emergence of open-source warfare. The author plans to explore the topic of weapons development and acquisition in a future issue of IEEE Spectrum. For exclusive insights into how terrorist and insurgent groups are leveraging information technology to organize, recruit, and learn see Robert Charette's interviews with: Lawrence Husick on how insurgents spread their message via the Web Tom Kellermann on how terrorists are using the Internet for money laundering, fundraising, and identify theft Michael Kenney on how extremists are really using the Internet From eugen at leitl.org Sat Nov 24 05:53:32 2007 From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:53:32 +0100 Subject: Cellphone Tracking Powers on Request Message-ID: <20071124135331.GB4005@leitl.org> (I've recently terminated my mobile contract subscription, and will be switching to an anonymous prepaid, in future using VPNs on trusted platforms (OpenMoko). The tracking is not new, but the EU data retention laws were the last straw that broke the camel's back). http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/22/AR2007112201444_pf.html Cellphone Tracking Powers on Request Secret Warrants Granted Without Probable Cause By Ellen Nakashima Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, November 23, 2007; A01 Federal officials are routinely asking courts to order cellphone companies to furnish real-time tracking data so they can pinpoint the whereabouts of drug traffickers, fugitives and other criminal suspects, according to judges and industry lawyers. In some cases, judges have granted the requests without requiring the government to demonstrate that there is probable cause to believe that a crime is taking place or that the inquiry will yield evidence of a crime. Privacy advocates fear such a practice may expose average Americans to a new level of government scrutiny of their daily lives. Such requests run counter to the Justice Department's internal recommendation that federal prosecutors seek warrants based on probable cause to obtain precise location data in private areas. The requests and orders are sealed at the government's request, so it is difficult to know how often the orders are issued or denied. The issue is taking on greater relevance as wireless carriers are racing to offer sleek services that allow cellphone users to know with the touch of a button where their friends or families are. The companies are hoping to recoup investments they have made to meet a federal mandate to provide enhanced 911 (E911) location tracking. Sprint Nextel, for instance, boasts that its "loopt" service even sends an alert when a friend is near, "putting an end to missed connections in the mall, at the movies or around town." With Verizon's Chaperone service, parents can set up a "geofence" around, say, a few city blocks and receive an automatic text message if their child, holding the cellphone, travels outside that area. "Most people don't realize it, but they're carrying a tracking device in their pocket," said Kevin Bankston of the privacy advocacy group Electronic Frontier Foundation. "Cellphones can reveal very precise information about your location, and yet legal protections are very much up in the air." In a stinging opinion this month, a federal judge in Texas denied a request by a Drug Enforcement Administration agent for data that would identify a drug trafficker's phone location by using the carrier's E911 tracking capability. E911 tracking systems read signals sent to satellites from a phone's Global Positioning System (GPS) chip or triangulated radio signals sent from phones to cell towers. Magistrate Judge Brian L. Owsley, of the Corpus Christi division of the Southern District of Texas, said the agent's affidavit failed to focus on "specifics necessary to establish probable cause, such as relevant dates, names and places." Owsley decided to publish his opinion, which explained that the agent failed to provide "sufficient specific information to support the assertion" that the phone was being used in "criminal" activity. Instead, Owsley wrote, the agent simply alleged that the subject trafficked in narcotics and used the phone to do so. The agent stated that the DEA had " 'identified' or 'determined' certain matters," Owsley wrote, but "these identifications, determinations or revelations are not facts, but simply conclusions by the agency." Instead of seeking warrants based on probable cause, some federal prosecutors are applying for orders based on a standard lower than probable cause derived from two statutes: the Stored Communications Act and the Pen Register Statute, according to judges and industry lawyers. The orders are typically issued by magistrate judges in U.S. district courts, who often handle applications for search warrants. In one case last month in a southwestern state, an FBI agent obtained precise location data with a court order based on the lower standard, citing "specific and articulable facts" showing reasonable grounds to believe the data are "relevant to an ongoing criminal investigation," said Al Gidari, a partner at Perkins Coie in Seattle, who reviews data requests for carriers. Another magistrate judge, who has denied about a dozen such requests in the past six months, said some agents attach affidavits to their applications that merely assert that the evidence offered is "consistent with the probable cause standard" of Rule 41 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. The judge spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. "Law enforcement routinely now requests carriers to continuously 'ping' wireless devices of suspects to locate them when a call is not being made . . . so law enforcement can triangulate the precise location of a device and [seek] the location of all associates communicating with a target," wrote Christopher Guttman-McCabe, vice president of regulatory affairs for CTIA -- the Wireless Association, in a July comment to the Federal Communications Commission. He said the "lack of a consistent legal standard for tracking a user's location has made it difficult for carriers to comply" with law enforcement agencies' demands. Gidari, who also represents CTIA, said he has never seen such a request that was based on probable cause. Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd said field attorneys should follow the department's policy. "We strongly recommend that prosecutors in the field obtain a warrant based on probable cause" to get location data "in a private area not accessible to the public," he said. "When we become aware of situations where this has not occurred, we contact the field office and discuss the matter." The phone data can home in on a target to within about 30 feet, experts said. Federal agents used exact real-time data in October 2006 to track a serial killer in Florida who was linked to at least six murders in four states, including that of a University of Virginia graduate student, whose body was found along the Blue Ridge Parkway. The killer died in a police shooting in Florida as he was attempting to flee. "Law enforcement has absolutely no interest in tracking the locations of law-abiding citizens. None whatsoever," Boyd said. "What we're doing is going through the courts to lawfully obtain data that will help us locate criminal targets, sometimes in cases where lives are literally hanging in the balance, such as a child abduction or serial murderer on the loose." In many cases, orders are being issued for cell-tower site data, which are less precise than the data derived from E911 signals. While the E911 technology could possibly tell officers what building a suspect was in, cell-tower site data give an area that could range from about three to 300 square miles. Since 2005, federal magistrate judges in at least 17 cases have denied federal requests for the less-precise cellphone tracking data absent a demonstration of probable cause that a crime is being committed. Some went out of their way to issue published opinions in these otherwise sealed cases. "Permitting surreptitious conversion of a cellphone into a tracking device without probable cause raises serious Fourth Amendment concerns especially when the phone is in a house or other place where privacy is reasonably expected," said Judge Stephen William Smith of the Southern District of Texas, whose 2005 opinion on the matter was among the first published. But judges in a majority of districts have ruled otherwise on this issue, Boyd said. Shortly after Smith issued his decision, a magistrate judge in the same district approved a federal request for cell-tower data without requiring probable cause. And in December 2005, Magistrate Judge Gabriel W. Gorenstein of the Southern District of New York, approving a request for cell-site data, wrote that because the government did not install the "tracking device" and the user chose to carry the phone and permit transmission of its information to a carrier, no warrant was needed. These judges are issuing orders based on the lower standard, requiring a showing of "specific and articulable facts" showing reasonable grounds to believe the data will be "relevant and material" to a criminal investigation. Boyd said the government believes this standard is sufficient for cell-site data. "This type of location information, which even in the best case only narrows a suspect's location to an area of several city blocks, is routinely generated, used and retained by wireless carriers in the normal course of business," he said. The trend's secrecy is troubling, privacy advocates said. No government body tracks the number of cellphone location orders sought or obtained. Congressional oversight in this area is lacking, they said. And precise location data will be easier to get if the Federal Communication Commission adopts a Justice Department proposal to make the most detailed GPS data available automatically. Often, Gidari said, federal agents tell a carrier they need real-time tracking data in an emergency but fail to follow up with the required court approval. Justice Department officials said to the best of their knowledge, agents are obtaining court approval unless the carriersprovide the data voluntarily. 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See e.g. http://freehaven.net/anonbib/#danezis:pet2004 So for example if the destination website is in Germany, and it logs all the packets it sees, then a logging entry relay would be sufficient to give away the game. b) If the Tor relay's ISP is logging enough, then it doesn't matter what the Tor relay itself logs. I'm still hoping to hear an answer to Mike Perry's question at http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Nov-2007/msg00146.html Then see http://freehaven.net/anonbib/#murdoch-pet2007 If sufficient logging becomes pervasive at the ISP or IX level, then it would seem that either we'll need to excise those jurisdictions from the Tor network (and worse, give up on providing anonymity to users there), or work on anonymity designs that tolerate this level of attack while still remaining usable. And that's where the actual definition of "traffic headers" or "traffic data" becomes critical -- and as I understand it, nobody yet knows what definitions will be used in practice. So it is premature to start deploying any alternate designs. But yes, if it gets to that point, we will be working hard on ways to avoiding leaving as many tracks in these large central databases. Even if I entirely trusted the authorities to only use the data in critical situations, what scares me most is the poor track record of large organizations at securing huge piles of sensitive data. We don't have to look very far for stunning examples of data leaks. These extra requirements like realtime access just make the task even more impossible. > But please, everybody, do not overreact by blocking german tor nodes. > The law will only have an effect for tor operators by the beginning of > 2009, and I doubt anyone will start logging before that. Right. If you would like to start logging early, please instead turn off your Tor relay. 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Admins of anon servers have to cooperate. (In Germany this is real by the new ' 100g StPO, the realtime surveillance can run for up to 3 days without asking a judge.) 3: Online-searching of servers by European Cybercrime Convention: An online searching (Online-Durchsuchung) of an anon server may be run before investigation to save relevant data, which may be not accessible after investigation. This online searching depends not on the cooperation of the admins and may be reached by repressions. (In Germany this is real by the new ' 110 (3) StPO.) Thanks to K. Raven for feature out this new laws. For point 3 we recommend to be prepared. It may be possible to create a high secured account with only read access to relevant data and no read access to any important key. If someone login with this account, it may be possible to run several actions. If the situation appears, you may decide, what you want to do (give them the account data or take the repressions). But you will not have the time to create such an account carefully. Can anyone write a shot tutorial for creation of a high secured only-read-account? Greetings ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl leitl http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE From eugen at leitl.org Sun Nov 25 03:49:28 2007 From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:49:28 +0100 Subject: Europaen Cybercrime Convention Message-ID: <20071125114927.GL4005@leitl.org> ----- Forwarded message from "TOR Admin (gpfTOR1)" ----- From eugen at leitl.org Sun Nov 25 04:51:18 2007 From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:51:18 +0100 Subject: Tor appliances Message-ID: <20071125125118.GN4005@leitl.org> You might or might not be aware about ALIX, the successor to WRAP. There's not a lot of RAM (256 MByte) and the AMD Geode LX is not a very fast CPU, but it has a crypto accelerator, which is already supported e.g. by OpenBSD http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=glxsb&sektion=4&arch=i386 and most likely, also in Linux. I know pfSense doesn't do it yet, but bleeding edge FreeBSD should as well. According to http://archives.seul.org/or/dev/Feb-2007/msg00045.html it seems the Geode LX could be a good match for Tor. Whether the RNG would be also useful I have absolutely no idea. At the total hardware price just over 100 EUR that could be a useful Tor appliance. 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This Orwellian vision of the future was compiled on the orders of the UK's information commissioner - the independent watchdog meant to guard against government and private companies invading the privacy of British citizens and exploiting the masses of information currently held on each and every one of us - by the Surveillance Studies Network, a group of academics. On Friday, this study, entitled A Report on the Surveillance Society, was picked over by a select group of government mandarins, politicians, police officers and academics in Edinburgh. It is unequivocal in its findings, with its first sentence reading simply: "We live in a surveillance society." The information commissioner, Richard Thomas, endorses the report. He says: "Today, I fear that we are, in fact, waking up to a surveillance society that is already all around us." advertisement The academics who compiled the study based their vision of the future not on wild hypotheses but on existing technology, statements made about the intentions of government and private companies and studies by other think tanks, regulators, professional bodies and academics. The report authors say that they believe the key theme of the future will be "pervasive surveillance" aimed at tracking and controlling people and pre-empting behaviour. The authors also say that their glimpse of the future is "fairly conservative. The future spelled out in the report is nowhere near as dystopian and authoritarian as it could be." Here's how 2017 might look... BorderGuard The Jones family are returning to Britain from holiday in America. 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Intelligent billboards at eye level then immediately flash up adverts dove-tailed to the consumer profile of the individual. The wealthiest consumer-citizen can even become a "cashless shopper". For #200, a chip can be implanted in the human body which is loaded with a person's bank and credit details. From then on, it's their arm that will be scanned in a shop, not their credit card. "Cashless shoppers" also get first-class service in mega-malls, with special lounges, spas and massage facilities reserved only for them. Urban myths, however, are springing up that muggers are targeting these elite consumers and cutting the chip from their arms. There are also concerns about hackers being able to upload viruses to the chip or empty the chipholder's account. Tagged Kids Scandals about child abductions and murders during school hours mean teachers prefer tagging a child to facing legal liability for their injury in a court. 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