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Name: gu.gif Type: image/gif Size: 6241 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rah at shipwright.com Wed May 2 19:40:57 2007 From: rah at shipwright.com (R.A. Hettinga) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 22:40:57 -0400 Subject: [Clips] Selective Disclosure and Privacy Message-ID: --- begin forwarded text Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 22:37:37 -0400 To: Philodox Clips List From: "R.A. Hettinga" Subject: [Clips] Selective Disclosure and Privacy Reply-To: clips-chat at philodox.com Sender: clips-bounces at philodox.com Wendy's Blog: Legal Tags: .SELTZER.ORG: LEGAL TAGS, THE BLOG Musings of a techie lawyer. May 02, 2007 SELECTIVE DISCLOSURE AND PRIVACY Often, when we're asked for "identification," it's not because the asker needs to know everything about us, but because they need to verify one aspect of identity: that I'm over 21, for example, if I'm trying to buy a drink. But since I don't have an "over 21" card that the bar can verify connects to me, I'm forced to give them my driver's license, from which they can also glean and store other data. Online, it doesn't have to be that way. Builders of identity-management systems can design in stronger protections for their users' privacy, giving people a separate virtual "card" for every transaction, with only the necessary data included. Ben Laurie has written a good concise overview, Selective Disclosure, explaining how zero-knowledge proofs let us make verifiable assertions without giving away the store. I claim that for an identity management system to be both useful and privacy preserving, there are three properties assertions must be able to have. They must be: * Verifiable There's often no point in making a statement unless the relying party has some way of checking it is true. 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The first thing that did strike me is that it took 1 year between the grand jury being sworn in (May 2006) and the indictment being filed in court (April 2007). Adam --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' From rah at shipwright.com Fri May 4 07:39:04 2007 From: rah at shipwright.com (R.A. 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(Aside: there is a growing suspicion of an alliance between the ruling UMP party and media companies, something that would appear to be confirmed with the forcing through parliament of the infamous DADVSI laws in December 2005 through June 2006 by Christian Vanneste, Renaud Donnedieu de Vabres and Michhle Alliot-Marie, the latter being most probably our next prime minister. The position of the UDF party is less clear, at least to me. Aside ends.) According to our best-beloved government, LCEN is merely the transposition into French law of the European directive 2000/31/CE. The critics of the laws claim that LCEN goes beyond what the directive requires, but this might bear veryfing. The forthcoming electoral campaign for the French parliament might be a good time to campaign for revising the LCEN law. (If you're a French citizen, writing to your diputi or main opposition candidate is definitely a good idea.) > The first thing before anything will be that Tor is outlawed. My understanding is that the data retention provisions of LCEN (Art. 6.II) only apply to service providers (as defined in Art. 6.I paragraphs 1 and 2), so it's not clear to me whether Tor servers are covered. On the other hand, Tor hidden services are clearly made illegal by Art. 6.III. (Punishable by up to one year in jail and a E$65000 fine.) 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It was just one of several exchanges over the years referring to the ponzis in the gold economy. Here is what I said on June 24, 2003, which itself refers to an even earlier post making the same point: quote By allowing a book entry [i.e., account-based] system to harbor obviously criminal activity like ponzis, the inevitable result to me seems clear. As I noted earlier, "By allowing criminal activity to occur within their system, a currency provider is forcing government involvement and action in the gold economy. This result is inevitable..." I don't think I am belaboring this point or my question by yet once again repeating it, because it is important. "Do the gold currency providers clean up themselves? Or do they wait for...the feds to go in and do it?" unquote So the federal indictments do not come as a surprise to me. 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The federal indictments indicate that E-Gold allows accounts to be opened and operated anonymously, thereby attracting crooks and scammers to use their system. If E-Gold followed best business practices, they would have closed the account of the ponzi listed in the spam quoted above, as well as the accounts of what I suspect are thousands of other ponzis. But E-Gold apparently turns a blind-eye, allowing these scammers to operate. I think the federal indictments are therefore an inevitable consequence. Additionally, GoldMoney is very different from E-Gold for other reasons. First of all, we are based in the British Channel Islands, and therefore not under US jurisdiction. But more importantly, we are careful that GoldMoney is not used unlawfully. We have a customer acceptance policy just like banks and other financial institutions, so in contrast to E-Gold, one cannot open and operate an account anonymously in GoldMoney. 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Here's a quote from a post in July 2003 referring to a newspaper article about criminal activity in E-Gold: quote I can't say if it is the "norm", but it is typical. And this is what I rail against - press like this hurts the entire industry - the entire gold economy. When time-sharing began circa 30 years ago, some companies allowed crooked salesmen and operators. Pretty soon the crooks were running rampant through the time-sharing industry. Those crooks spoiled that nascent industry, tarnishing the name time-sharing for twenty years, and only then after the name was changed to shared ownership and other variations did it begin to revive. The criminal activity was so bad that even the legitimate operators were painted with the same brush because of all the bad press being given to the crooked operators (bad press just like this one in the St. Louis Post). So is history about to repeat with the gold economy? I hope not, but the outlook is dubious if the crooks are allowed to run rampant throughout the industry. What's sad is that it doesn't have to be that way. There is no technological impediment preventing anyone from stopping obvious criminal activity. All the currency provider has to do is close the account of the crook. In this newspaper article, the crook changed his site, which is obviously a scam, but will his E-Gold account be closed? And even if it is, will E-Gold stop the crook from opening another account and start doing the same thing? unquote The indictment in essence say the same thing, namely, that E-Gold allowed the criminal activity to take place, when all E-Gold had to do was close the account, or even easier, make it less likely the crook will open an account in the first place by establishing a know-your-customer policy that is required these days for all account-based currencies. But there is another point here worth considering. 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Name: not available Type: text/html Size: 1621 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rah at shipwright.com Sat May 5 20:34:38 2007 From: rah at shipwright.com (R.A. Hettinga) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 23:34:38 -0400 Subject: [Dgcchat] I was talking about a different James Message-ID: --- begin forwarded text Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 19:05:21 -0400 To: Digital Gold and Silver Discussion List From: James Turk Subject: Re: [Dgcchat] I was talking about a different James Reply-To: Digital Gold and Silver Discussion List Sender: dgcchat-bounces at dgcchat.com Raven Thanks for your thoughtful reply. On the chance that my views may be helpful, here's how I see it. >So if you operate an account-based currency, it seems you would be >expected to follow the law, doesn't it? > >-- Stop! This is where you lose a lot of the guys here. I'll try to >make this brief: > >1. You're accepting Big Brother. (Some here think you are welcoming >and inviting BB to "bring law and order" to the digital economy.) I >fully understand that BB exists, and that it must be considered as a >practical matter. But also understand that a lot of the folks here DO >NOT accept it as a given, and do not wish to bow down to it. They'd >rather run around it and try to build freedom. I'm sure some of us >don't divide these two different modes very well, but this is a major >issue. First, the principle that seems to be evolving in the still nascent Internet is that each country sets the "law and order" for those people who access the Internet from that country. Thus if you access the Internet from within France, you subject yourself to French law. Similarly, if you are in the US, you are subject to US law. The corollary is that you are subject to the law of the country in which you operate your Internet business. Thus if your company's staff, servers and customer data are within the US, it seems pretty clear that your business is subject to US law, regardless if your company is incorporated in some other country. Second, and more importantly, I'm not accepting BB. In fact, I'm doing exactly what you say about avoiding BB. That's why we have chosen to build our business in the British Channel Islands, which is a sovereign country that is very protective of property rights, and property rights are very important to me as the builder of a financial services business. Some people on this list have a totally unrealistic view of the world, possibly because they have never travelled out of their home country. Government is a fact of life. We decided to deal with that reality by locating in the British Channel Islands. We comply with the law there, and as a consequence need to know who are customers are. The quid pro quo is that our customers are protected by the law there, which is Anglo-Saxon common law -- the principles of which are based on property rights. GoldMoney is built upon sound business principles with a solid business plan. The outcome will be as I said in my other post to "create a DGC that I believe will withstand the test of time. Consequently, GoldMoney will change things regarding money and banking -- which many people on this list would no doubt like to see. We want to reduce the role of government in money. GoldMoney is doing this by providing people with a viable and well-run non-national currency, i.e., a currency not run by government." So GoldMoney is not accepting BB. It's the exact opposite. We're dealing with BB in a pragmatic way. Thus while we cope with BB in our own way, we are building our business which will in time I expect change how people around the world view money and also change what they will use for currency. >2. Other account-based systems (like banks) are NOT shut down if their >customers do nasty things. This happens ONLY if the operators were >involved. Is my bank required to verify the intent of every check I >send through it? No? Then why is e-gold? I have seen no evidence that >e-gold knowingly colluded with kiddie-porn dealers. Banks don't verify the intent of every check. All banks do is go through the process of knowing who their customers are. E-Gold didn't do that. E-Gold to my knowledge wasn't shut down. Only the accounts in the indictments were shut down. Other accounts are still operating, aren't they? That's the same thing that happens in banks if banks don't follow the regulations governing them. If E-Gold's own accounts were frozen, that happens in the banks too if they don't comply with regulations. >3. Of course criminals are a problem here - they're a problem >everywhere! And, yes, there are real questions about business ethics >in dealing with ponzis, etc. - but those are EXACTLY the things we >should argue about on a list like this! AND DO ALL THE TIME! Yes, we do talk about that a lot, don't we? But talk is one thing, and action is another, and we all know that E-Gold allows ponzis and that ilk to operate accounts within E-Gold. Read the indictment the feds put together. It's an eye opener. >Finally, you seem to exhibit no empathy or concern for e-gold or any >of their users. Obviously I have no empathy for the crooks. With regard to E-Gold's legitimate customers, I don't have any views one way or the other. It was their choice to deal with E-Gold. Nobody forced them to open an account there, right? Sometimes we make good decisions, sometimes bad -- in both cases we have to accept the consequences of our actions. But in any case empathy is not needed here, because unless I missed something here, E-Gold's legitimate customers are not effected by the indictment against E-Gold's principals. Regards James _______________________________________________ Dgcchat mailing list Dgcchat at dgcchat.com http://mail.dgcchat.com/mailman/listinfo/dgcchat_dgcchat.com --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' From grto at 163data.com.cn.jfet.org Sun May 6 03:59:23 2007 From: grto at 163data.com.cn.jfet.org (Vivien) Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 23:59:23 -1100 Subject: Did u see this Message-ID: <615a01c78f71$6795dea0$710d8600@grto> Tap.They voice listened: tankards and Miss undress ink knife Kennedy, George LH. 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Name: xneeyekiomiyfx.gif Type: image/gif Size: 6147 bytes Desc: not available URL: From spovbl at msn.com Sun May 6 02:36:00 2007 From: spovbl at msn.com (Jeanne Eubanks) Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 05:36:00 -0400 Subject: Men's Cronic Problems Message-ID: <151.38e558d5.2a9GEM44@sol.com> Extra-Time proven to: - allow you to control when you want to ejaculate - curing "Premature Ejaculation" - and other sexual dysfunction problems You gonna lovew this. http://ewgne.com From lauren at vortex.com Sun May 6 05:39:25 2007 From: lauren at vortex.com (Lauren Weinstein) Date: May 6, 2007 5:39:25 PM EDT Subject: Strangling the Internet with ID Message-ID: Dave, This New York Times piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/nyregion/06myspace.html gives an excellent overview of efforts now in progress in various states to require verified ID before allowing anyone to sign-up for "social networking" sites like MySpace, and the impacts these could potentially have on all manner of Web sites. In particular, the article notes the view that such efforts would be impractical and could even do more damage by pushing children (the group these laws would ostensibly protect) toward other sites completely under the radar. The article also recognizes that requiring ID (most likely a credit card) would then provide networking sites (or their third-party subcontractors) with a direct linkage to all users' true identities that could be subject to later exploitation and abuse. While we all want to protect children, these ID-based models will not do so, and indeed will bring with them a whole host of other major risks. How long will it be before some bright boys inside the Beltway get the idea of requiring that *all* Internet usage be tied to verified IDs? This would fit in just dandy with the mandated data retention push, COPA, and the other efforts to turn the Internet into an ever more purpose-built computerized arm of law enforcement. Wanna use Google? Verify your ID first, please, so retained records can be retroactively tied to you at any point in the future by various agencies. Too dark a scenario? Couldn't happen? Do you really want to bet against me on this one given current trends? Of course, we can still turn the tide, working together as consumers and Internet service providers alike. We can tell the politicos that enough is enough. But will we? Or will it be business as usual? Place your bets. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren at vortex.com or lauren at pfir.org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, IOIC - International Open Internet Coalition - http://www.ioic.net Founder, CIFIP - California Initiative For Internet Privacy - http://www.cifip.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com DayThink: http://daythink.vortex.com ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl leitl http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE From menectagpef at ectag.org Sun May 6 03:12:10 2007 From: menectagpef at ectag.org (Bernard Gary) Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 09:12:10 -0100 Subject: Shed weight now and enjoy the process Message-ID: <065416048.43418259218502@thhebat.net> Anatrim – The newest and most enchanting product for corpulent people available – As were told on ABC Did you know that excessive body kilograms kill a plenty of people around the world? 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Nice to see the phone company (read: government) is tracking us all in real time to ~3m. Damn good thing they can't find their ass with both hands, since their leader is severely retarded, or I'd be worried. Hell they can't find 15m+ illegals, so we should be safe. I wonder how long it takes between saying "stem cell evolution" on a phone call and the SWAT team showing up? Hmmmm... -- Adam L. Beberg http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/ _______________________________________________ FoRK mailing list http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl leitl http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE From rah at shipwright.com Mon May 7 19:58:39 2007 From: rah at shipwright.com (R.A. Hettinga) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 22:58:39 -0400 Subject: How Terrorists Send Money Message-ID: The New Media Journal How Terrorists Send Money Terrorism Dr. Rachel Ehrenfeld & John Wood May 3, 2007 Advanced mobile technology, cooperation between international mobile communications providers and international financial institutions and the lack of regulations make for a swift, cheap, mostly untraceable money transfer -- known as "m-payments" -- anywhere, anytime, by anyone with a mobile telephone. Members of the GSM Association and MasterCard are developing an m-payment service to enable 200 million international migrant workers and the poor who lack bank accounts to transfer money domestically and internationally. According to the World Bank, 175 million migrants transferred at least $230 billion in international remittances in 2005. A recent U.N.-sponsored South African study found that m-banking can be up to one-third cheaper for customers than the current banking alternatives. However, the spread of m-payments in less developed countries, which often lack functioning anti-money laundering and anti-terrorist financing regulatory frameworks, and where corruption is rife, will likely increase money laundering and terrorist financing. The abuse of the m-payments is easy when the stored value card is used. It does not require a bank account, credit card or two forms of government-approved identification to activate and use. It just requires cash. Most cards set limits on the amount held on the card, but most can be reloaded, allowing the transfer of thousands of dollars. Indeed, this anonymous and mobile m-payment service is the best vehicle for criminals and terrorists for transferring or receiving money. Three billion people around the world have mobile phones, but only 1 billion have bank accounts, says the GSM Association. BearingPoint, a major management and technology consulting company, estimated the unbanked marketplace in the United States alone in 2006 at $510 billion. No wonder that banks such as Citigroup, HSBC, JPMorgan Chase, as well as mobile-phone companies such as Cingular, Verizon and Sprint, are clamoring for a piece of the action. More than a dozen m-payment service providers are already operating. The largest is PayPal, with more than 100 million Internet accounts worldwide. Here's how m-payments can work: You buy a stored value card for a certain amount of dollars and a prepaid, disposable mobile phone. Next, you register with the m-payment service provider using a free anonymous e-mail account, your prepaid mobile-phone number and the money on the stored value card. Using your mobile phone, you log on to the m-payment service provider and give the number of the mobile phone to which you wish to transfer the funds from your stored value card. The m-payment service provider sends a message to the receiver's phone number asking where to transfer the money. The recipient can request the transfer to his stored value card and withdraw the funds from any ATM. Both sender and recipient can then throw away their mobile phones and use new phones and new stored value cards for another transfer, without any fear of detection. In the United States, on Feb. 27, Citigroup teamed with Obopay, the mobile person-to-person payment service provider, enabling not only South American and Filipino migrant workers to transfer money to their families, but perhaps also offering drug traffickers and/or supporters of al-Qaida, Hamas and Hezbollah a safe way to send money to the Middle East or to each other. The London-based HSBC, with more than 5,000 offices in 79 countries, and its subsidiary, First Direct -- a telephone and Internet-based commercial bank -- offer an m-payment solution over the Monilink World Wide Web network. Such an extensive mobile banking network in countries, many with close ties to and large potential terrorist populations, defeats any attempt to stop terrorist financing. How many al-Qaida and Hamas sympathizers in the United Kingdom are using this service? In the Middle East, the Amman-based Access2Arabia offers mobile and Internet banking services to customers in Algeria, Tunisia, Nigeria, Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Sudan, Iraq, Ghana, Cyprus, Gaza and Yemen. In January the National Bank of Dubai signed an agreement for m-payments services with the Norwegian/European mobile company LUUP to service 300 million people in the Middle East alone. Dubai, a major international financial center, is also known as a money-laundering and drug- and arms-trafficking haven for organized crime, al-Qaida, Hamas, Iran and Hezbollah. In the Philippines, which Hong Kong-based Political and Economic Risk Consultancy (PBRC) terms "the most corrupted Asian country" and where al-Qaida is active, at least 3.5 million people are using a service that lets them transfer money, pay bills, give contributions to charities locally and internationally, purchase prepaid Internet credits, and buy gaming credit over the two major mobile networks operated by SMART Communications and Globe Telecom. Special security features of the m-payment system constitute a major impediment to law enforcement and intelligence services that seek to detect suspicious money transactions. Compounding the challenge is the fact that the m-payment process leaves little to no audit trail, and lack of adequate regulatory oversight makes the transactions untraceable. The only applicable federal reporting requirement to providers of stored value cards is the Currency Transaction Report rule. A CTR must be filed for all cash transactions greater than $10,000 per day. However, the CTR can be filed up to 15 days after the transaction has occurred, giving terrorists and criminals enough time to disappear. Furthermore, although almost all U.S. m-payment service providers are registered as Money Services Businesses with FinCEN, the regulations do not have specific provisions pertaining to them. Moreover, the government is already constrained by international privacy and secrecy laws, as in the Cayman Islands, Cyprus, Belgium and Panama. Today, m-payment service providers cannot verify that the address given has not been taken from the White Pages. And there is no way to ensure that the Social Security number has not been stolen or "borrowed" from another person -- alive, dead or in jail. As we learned from the 1993 World Trade Center bombing investigations and trials, and the Sept. 11 Commission Report, terrorists can easily acquire valid driver's licenses, visas, Social Security cards and credit cards. Since both terrorism and m-payments are global, the m-payment service provider, as all those monitoring terror financing, should have immediate real-time access to an integrated, closely monitored list of all individuals, organizations, businesses and countries suspected of links to terrorists. Yet, in January, the U.S. Treasury's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network -- or FinCEN -- told Congress that while "the reporting of cross-border wire transfer data by financial institutions is technically feasible," law enforcement needs another year to assess whether it would be "valuable to the government's efforts to combat money laundering and terrorist financing." We do not have another year to waste. To stop money laundering and terrorist financing in real time, the government needs to identify, develop and implement the best methods and technologies available to regulate the m-payment services. In fact, now is not too soon. Dr. Rachel Ehrenfeld is author of Funding Evil; How Terrorism is Financed-and How to Stop It, Director of American Center for Democracy and a member of the Committee on the Present Danger. John Wood is president of the Playfair Group. -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' From andrew at ceruleansystems.com Mon May 7 23:01:29 2007 From: andrew at ceruleansystems.com (J. Andrew Rogers) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 23:01:29 -0700 Subject: [FoRK] PubSub 2.0 Message-ID: On May 7, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Jim Whitehead wrote: >* So, I walk out of my house, turn on my cell phone, and I'm >immediately hit with event-driven porn spam? That could happen. Thankfully, a significant percentage of everyone involved is demanding a strong digital signature framework to be de facto mandatory, something which I personally strongly support. It is optional, but there are enough people lucid enough to not want to re- invent SMTP poorly who are willing to argue that case that it will probably minimize spam opportunities in implementation. What that looks like in practice is hard to say, but I think digital signatures will be standard fare for mandatory feeds. However, that does not prevent upstream digital signature folks like the telcos from whoring their certs and channel to anyone with cash. It is very desirable advertising real estate. This is being implemented in most countries by regulatory fiat. To the extent that I have influence on the process, I have been a strong advocate of a useful digital signature framework for ascertaining source authority (and filterinig on that basis) at a minimum, and potentially much stricter profiles. We'll see what it really looks like in five or ten years. The people that want no cryptographic controls at all ("because it is simple") are in the minority. Cheers, J. Andrew Rogers _______________________________________________ FoRK mailing list http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl leitl http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE From bill.stewart at pobox.com Tue May 8 01:47:43 2007 From: bill.stewart at pobox.com (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 01:47:43 -0700 Subject: FW: End of RSA via fast factoring In-Reply-To: <20070426035533.W59483@ubzr.zsa.bet> References: <20070426035533.W59483@ubzr.zsa.bet> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20070508013931.0434b830@pop.idiom.com> At 01:56 AM 4/26/2007, J.A. Terranson wrote: >Anyone here who can read/analyze/translate this into English? Note the Soviet Union domain name :-) The important sentence is "but exists a short way with fixed complexity for implementation of hypothesis ("plan B") - but, by ethical reason, I'll not post it here." He demonstrates the hard way to do factoring, and says there's an easy method, but isn't willing to explain it. However, if you watch the cards carefully enough, you can see which one has the Red Queen under it, so put your bets on the table. In fact, NP-ishly hard problems do work this way - if you know the answer, you can verify its correctness quickly, so all you need to do is convince the Oracle to let you know the correct answer, but unfortunately it can take an exponentially long period of beseeching before Ms. Pythia will tell you what kind of oil your snake wants. >------------------------------------------------------------ >Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:53:56 +0400 >From: Eugene Chukhlomin >To: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk >Subject: [Full-disclosure] Rapid integer factorization = end of RSA? > >Hi list! >I discovered a new method of integer factorization for any precision >numbers, probable it should be an end of RSA era. >..... >This implementation of my gypothesis has very hard complexity (about a >log2(N)! comparations), but exists a short way with fixed complexity for >implementation of hypothesis ("plan B") - but, by ethical reason, I'll >not post it here. >Regards, >Eugene Chukhlomin From eackerma at u.washington.edu Tue May 8 02:02:32 2007 From: eackerma at u.washington.edu (Ethan Ackerman) Date: May 8, 2007 2:02:32 PM EDT Subject: [IP] Verizon says phone record disclosure is protected Message-ID: free speech Greetings Dave, If I understand correctly, Verizon is now arguing in the NSA spying cases that turning over records to an arm of the government is protected 1st Amendment speech, even if the process of turning them over was of questionable legality. Maybe they want to run that by their co-defendants AT&T first, because AT&T has argued just the opposite... A little over a year ago, AT&T employee Mark Klein turned over proprietary records to the US District Court (an arm of the government) hearing the NSA spying cases brought by EFF. AT&T strongly objected, asserting trade secret claims and that the process of turning them over was of questionable legality. Maybe AT&T's proposed solution in its case should apply here as well: "The Confidential Documents were taken outside of the discovery [[[FISA]]] process. They contain confidential and proprietary AT&T [[[US citzen caller's]]] information. AT&T therefore has filed the Confidential Motion requesting that the Court order plaintiffs [[[NSA]]] to return the documents and make no further use of them unless and until they are obtained by proper [[[FISA-compliant]]] means." from http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/ATT38_sealing_motion.pdf bracketed comments mine, obviously. On 5/8/07, David Farber wrote: > > >Begin forwarded message: > >From: Joshua Tinnin >Date: May 8, 2007 11:09:44 AM EDT >To: David Farber >Subject: Verizon says phone record disclosure is protected free speech >Reply-To: krinklyfig at gmail.com > >http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070507-verizon-says-phone- >record-disclosure-is-protected-free-speech.html > >Verizon says phone record disclosure is protected free speech > >By Nate Anderson | Published: May 07, 2007 - 01:48PM CT > >Verizon is one of the phone companies currently being sued over its >alleged disclosure of customer phone records to the NSA. In a response >to the court last week, the company asked for the entire consolidated >case against it to be thrown out - on free speech grounds. > >The response also alleges that the case should be thrown out because >even looking into the issue could violate state secrets, of course, >but >a much longer section of the response tries to make the case that >Verizon has a First Amendment right to "petition" the government. >"Based >on plaintiffs' own allegations, defendants' right to communicate such >information to the government is fully protected by the Free Speech >and >Petition Clauses of the First Amendment," argue Verizon's lawyers. > >Essentially, the argument is that turning over truthful information to >the government is free speech, and the EFF and ACLU can't do anything >about it. In fact, Verizon basically argues that the entire lawsuit >is a >giant SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation) suit, and >that the case is an attempt to deter the company from exercising its >First Amendment right to turn over customer calling information to >government security services. > >"Communicating facts to the government is protected petitioning >activity," says the response, even when the communication of those >facts >would normally be illegal or would violate a company's owner >promises to >its customers. Verizon argues that, if the EFF and other groups have >concerns about customer call records, the only proper remedy "is to >impose restrictions on the government, not on the speaker's right to >communicate." > >With all of the phone company cases consolidated into one master case, >Verizon is hoping to have the case thrown out on free-speech grounds, >putting an end to its legal troubles over the issue. Should it >fail, the >Bush administration is already preparing to ask Congress for >retroactive >immunity for all telecommunications companies that assisted the >government after September 11, 2001. The government is also fighting >hard in court on behalf of the phone companies, filing repeated briefs >which claim that "state secrets" trump even the legality of the >alleged >security programs. > > >------------------------------------------- >Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now >RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ >Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl leitl http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE From cijemepublishjaq at emepublish.com Mon May 7 21:57:19 2007 From: cijemepublishjaq at emepublish.com (Clint Warren) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 03:57:19 -0100 Subject: Look in the mirror and enjoy the new you Message-ID: <511965280.36008260031599@thhebat.net> Anatrim – The very up-to-date and most fascinating flesh loss product is made available now – As could be seen on Oprah. 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Andrew Rogers" ----- From krinklyfig at gmail.com Tue May 8 11:09:44 2007 From: krinklyfig at gmail.com (Joshua Tinnin) Date: May 8, 2007 11:09:44 AM EDT Subject: Verizon says phone record disclosure is protected free speech Message-ID: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070507-verizon-says-phone-record-disclosure-is-protected-free-speech.html Verizon says phone record disclosure is protected free speech By Nate Anderson | Published: May 07, 2007 - 01:48PM CT Verizon is one of the phone companies currently being sued over its alleged disclosure of customer phone records to the NSA. In a response to the court last week, the company asked for the entire consolidated case against it to be thrown out - on free speech grounds. The response also alleges that the case should be thrown out because even looking into the issue could violate state secrets, of course, but a much longer section of the response tries to make the case that Verizon has a First Amendment right to "petition" the government. "Based on plaintiffs' own allegations, defendants' right to communicate such information to the government is fully protected by the Free Speech and Petition Clauses of the First Amendment," argue Verizon's lawyers. Essentially, the argument is that turning over truthful information to the government is free speech, and the EFF and ACLU can't do anything about it. In fact, Verizon basically argues that the entire lawsuit is a giant SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation) suit, and that the case is an attempt to deter the company from exercising its First Amendment right to turn over customer calling information to government security services. "Communicating facts to the government is protected petitioning activity," says the response, even when the communication of those facts would normally be illegal or would violate a company's owner promises to its customers. Verizon argues that, if the EFF and other groups have concerns about customer call records, the only proper remedy "is to impose restrictions on the government, not on the speaker's right to communicate." With all of the phone company cases consolidated into one master case, Verizon is hoping to have the case thrown out on free-speech grounds, putting an end to its legal troubles over the issue. Should it fail, the Bush administration is already preparing to ask Congress for retroactive immunity for all telecommunications companies that assisted the government after September 11, 2001. 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Hettinga) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 18:00:58 -0400 Subject: eCache : Anonymous Digital Bearer Certificates Message-ID: DigitalMoneyWorld.com eCache : Anonymous Digital Bearer Certificates by MARK on May 7th, 2007 You will probably never see Amazon or Overstock.com accepting eCache as a method of payment, however, more and more old school digital currency users are spending DBCs (digital bearer certificates). With the e-gold community still rocking in the wake of recent indictments, creative minds are now making moves towards more serious privacy. Do you want to learn more about eCache? Then get ready to be confused . Although it sounds simple enough, this is not your 'fathers' digital money. What is eCache? Plain and simple its anonymous digital cash. Just like the fancy green & black paper you have in your wallet, which offers no attached receipt stating where it came from, eCache is 100% anonymous. 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Eventually, mobile payments should make the source and destination of financial transactions even more traceable. Each mobile handset has a unique hardware serial number (IMEI) which can be identified (traced) by the mobile network. Each SIM card, or phone number, has a unique IMSI number which is also identified (traced) by the mobile network. The use of multiple stored value cards for multiple financial transactions can be traced to the owner and holder of the mobile phone and their monthly network billing account. R.A. Hettinga wrote: > > > The New Media Journal > > How Terrorists Send Money > > Terrorism Dr. Rachel Ehrenfeld & John Wood > > May 3, 2007 > > > Advanced mobile technology, cooperation between international mobile > communications providers and international financial institutions and the > lack of regulations make for a swift, cheap, mostly untraceable money > transfer -- known as "m-payments" -- anywhere, anytime, by anyone with a > mobile telephone. > > Members of the GSM Association and MasterCard are developing an m-payment > service to enable 200 million international migrant workers and the poor > who lack bank accounts to transfer money domestically and internationally. > According to the World Bank, 175 million migrants transferred at least $230 > billion in international remittances in 2005. A recent U.N.-sponsored South > African study found that m-banking can be up to one-third cheaper for > customers than the current banking alternatives. > > However, the spread of m-payments in less developed countries, which often > lack functioning anti-money laundering and anti-terrorist financing > regulatory frameworks, and where corruption is rife, will likely increase > money laundering and terrorist financing. > > The abuse of the m-payments is easy when the stored value card is used. It > does not require a bank account, credit card or two forms of > government-approved identification to activate and use. It just requires > cash. Most cards set limits on the amount held on the card, but most can be > reloaded, allowing the transfer of thousands of dollars. Indeed, this > anonymous and mobile m-payment service is the best vehicle for criminals > and terrorists for transferring or receiving money. > > Three billion people around the world have mobile phones, but only 1 > billion have bank accounts, says the GSM Association. BearingPoint, a major > management and technology consulting company, estimated the unbanked > marketplace in the United States alone in 2006 at $510 billion. No wonder > that banks such as Citigroup, HSBC, JPMorgan Chase, as well as mobile-phone > companies such as Cingular, Verizon and Sprint, are clamoring for a piece > of the action. More than a dozen m-payment service providers are already > operating. The largest is PayPal, with more than 100 million Internet > accounts worldwide. > > Here's how m-payments can work: You buy a stored value card for a certain > amount of dollars and a prepaid, disposable mobile phone. Next, you > register with the m-payment service provider using a free anonymous e-mail > account, your prepaid mobile-phone number and the money on the stored value > card. Using your mobile phone, you log on to the m-payment service provider > and give the number of the mobile phone to which you wish to transfer the > funds from your stored value card. The m-payment service provider sends a > message to the receiver's phone number asking where to transfer the money. > The recipient can request the transfer to his stored value card and > withdraw the funds from any ATM. Both sender and recipient can then throw > away their mobile phones and use new phones and new stored value cards for > another transfer, without any fear of detection. > > In the United States, on Feb. 27, Citigroup teamed with Obopay, the mobile > person-to-person payment service provider, enabling not only South American > and Filipino migrant workers to transfer money to their families, but > perhaps also offering drug traffickers and/or supporters of al-Qaida, Hamas > and Hezbollah a safe way to send money to the Middle East or to each other. > > The London-based HSBC, with more than 5,000 offices in 79 countries, and > its subsidiary, First Direct -- a telephone and Internet-based commercial > bank -- offer an m-payment solution over the Monilink World Wide Web > network. Such an extensive mobile banking network in countries, many with > close ties to and large potential terrorist populations, defeats any > attempt to stop terrorist financing. How many al-Qaida and Hamas > sympathizers in the United Kingdom are using this service? > > In the Middle East, the Amman-based Access2Arabia offers mobile and > Internet banking services to customers in Algeria, Tunisia, Nigeria, > Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Sudan, Iraq, Ghana, Cyprus, > Gaza and Yemen. In January the National Bank of Dubai signed an agreement > for m-payments services with the Norwegian/European mobile company LUUP to > service 300 million people in the Middle East alone. Dubai, a major > international financial center, is also known as a money-laundering and > drug- and arms-trafficking haven for organized crime, al-Qaida, Hamas, Iran > and Hezbollah. > > In the Philippines, which Hong Kong-based Political and Economic Risk > Consultancy (PBRC) terms "the most corrupted Asian country" and where > al-Qaida is active, at least 3.5 million people are using a service that > lets them transfer money, pay bills, give contributions to charities > locally and internationally, purchase prepaid Internet credits, and buy > gaming credit over the two major mobile networks operated by SMART > Communications and Globe Telecom. > > Special security features of the m-payment system constitute a major > impediment to law enforcement and intelligence services that seek to detect > suspicious money transactions. Compounding the challenge is the fact that > the m-payment process leaves little to no audit trail, and lack of adequate > regulatory oversight makes the transactions untraceable. > > The only applicable federal reporting requirement to providers of stored > value cards is the Currency Transaction Report rule. A CTR must be filed > for all cash transactions greater than $10,000 per day. However, the CTR > can be filed up to 15 days after the transaction has occurred, giving > terrorists and criminals enough time to disappear. > > Furthermore, although almost all U.S. m-payment service providers are > registered as Money Services Businesses with FinCEN, the regulations do not > have specific provisions pertaining to them. Moreover, the government is > already constrained by international privacy and secrecy laws, as in the > Cayman Islands, Cyprus, Belgium and Panama. > > Today, m-payment service providers cannot verify that the address given has > not been taken from the White Pages. And there is no way to ensure that the > Social Security number has not been stolen or "borrowed" from another > person -- alive, dead or in jail. As we learned from the 1993 World Trade > Center bombing investigations and trials, and the Sept. 11 Commission > Report, terrorists can easily acquire valid driver's licenses, visas, > Social Security cards and credit cards. > > Since both terrorism and m-payments are global, the m-payment service > provider, as all those monitoring terror financing, should have immediate > real-time access to an integrated, closely monitored list of all > individuals, organizations, businesses and countries suspected of links to > terrorists. > > Yet, in January, the U.S. Treasury's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network > -- or FinCEN -- told Congress that while "the reporting of cross-border > wire transfer data by financial institutions is technically feasible," law > enforcement needs another year to assess whether it would be "valuable to > the government's efforts to combat money laundering and terrorist > financing." > > We do not have another year to waste. 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There are only a handful of online stores that offer the highest quality R0lex repl1ca w4tches and Prest1ge Repl1cas is among them, and with the lowest available prices! http://www.weddefell.com/ From edrigram at edri.org Wed May 9 10:27:16 2007 From: edrigram at edri.org (EDRI-gram newsletter) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 20:27:16 +0300 Subject: EDRI-gram newsletter - Number 5.9, 9 May 2007 Message-ID: ============================================================ EDRI-gram biweekly newsletter about digital civil rights in Europe Number 5.9, 9 May 2007 ============================================================ Contents ============================================================ 1. European Commission supports Privacy Enhancing Technologies 2. EDPS advises against new data protection framework decision 3. PNR deal ratification postponed by the Czech Senate 4. RapidShare sues German rights holder association 5. The EDPS Annual Report for 2006 shows more concern for data protection 6. Failure of the Scottish e-voting system 7. First draft on data retention law in Romania 8. New calls for computer online searches by German authorities 9. Recommended Action 10. Agenda 11. About ============================================================ 1. European Commission supports Privacy Enhancing Technologies ============================================================ Commissioner Franco Frattini, who is responsible for the legislation concerning co-operation between European police as well as data protection of European police, has shown public support for privacy enhancing technologies (PETs). Frattini's position is surprising taking into consideration its open support for other privacy-invasive projects such as the data retention directive, EU-US PNR agreement or the planned EU fingerprint database. A public statement published by the European Commission (EC) on 2 May 2007 directly supports PETs, expecting them to improve the protection of privacy as well as help fulfil the data protection rules. "The use of PETs would be complementary to the existing legal framework and enforcement mechanisms. In fact the intervention of different actors in the data processing and the existence of the different national jurisdictions involved could make enforcement of the legal framework difficult." The PETs mentioned in the Commission's communication are: the automatic anonymisation after a certain lapse of time, encryption tools, cookie-cutters or the Platform for Privacy Preferences (P3P). These PETs could ensure that "breaches of the data protection rules and violations of individual's rights are not only something forbidden...but also technically more difficult". The communication shows the plans of the EC in this field through activities such as identifying the need and technological requirements of PETs, promoting use of PETs by the industry, ensuring respect for appropriate standards in the protection of personal data through PETs and promoting the use of PETs by public authorities. It also aims at direct support by funding research on PETs: Europe contributed over 18 million Euro to PET research as part of its 6th Framework Programme (2002-06), and this is expected to increase significantly in the coming years. Frattini also advanced the idea of a pan-European system of "privacy seals" that will help the consumers. Privacy Enhancing Technologies (PETs) (2.05.2007) http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=MEMO/07/159&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en Euro Data watchdog warns of database creep (3.05.2007) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/03/database_creep/ ============================================================ 2. EDPS advises against new data protection framework decision ============================================================ The European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) has shown serious concerns in his opinion on the Commission's new Council Framework Decision proposal regarding the protection of personal data processed in the framework of police and judicial co-operation in criminal matters. Although appreciative of the German presidency's efforts, Peter Hustinx advised the Council against adopting the proposal considering it failed to provide appropriate data protection. EDPS believes that a Framework Decision on the protection of personal data in the third pillar is essential in the development of an area of freedom, security and justice and that "the growing importance of the police and judicial cooperation in criminal matters as well as the actions stemming from the Hague Programme have highlighted the necessity of common standards in the protection of personal data in the third pillar". At the same time, Hustinx underlines that some of the aspects of the proposal are not in agreement with the EU Treaty and some are even below the standards of the Council of Europe Convention 108 of 1981. "We need to ensure high standards to guarantee both the citizens rights and the efficiency in police and judicial cooperation. Unfortunately, this proposal does not meet the expectations" stated the EDPS. Two important issues Hustinx opposes to are the extension of the proposal scope to third pillar data processing by Europol and Eurojust and the creation of a new joint supervisory authority before including adequate protection measures for the citizens' data when such data are exchanged between member states and third parties. In his opinion, the lack of proper and broad level of data protection will make information exchanges "subject to different national "rules of origin" and "double standards" that strongly affect efficiency in law enforcement cooperation while not improving the protection of personal data". The EDPS considers some essential data protection provisions have been taken out from the previous text thus weakening the level of protection of citizens and also finds the legislative quality of the text as unsatisfactory. "Apart from the choice of legal instrument, several provisions do not fulfil the requirements of the common guidelines for the quality of drafting of Community legislation. In particular, the text is not drafted clearly, simply and precisely, which makes it difficult for the citizens to identify their rights and obligations unambiguously". Two of the aspects that are not properly covered by the proposal are the limitation of the further purposes for which personal data may be processed, and the lack of specific and strict conditions for the data exchanges with non-law enforcement authorities. The opinion shows there are no adequate provisions related to the quality of data. There are no provisions regarding the differentiation of data categories based on the accuracy degree and reliability, no distinction between data based on facts and data based on personal opinions or assessment. "The lack of such a common requirement could actually undermine the data being exchanged between police authorities as they will not be able to ascertain whether the data can be construed as "evidence", "fact", "hard intelligence" or "soft intelligence". This could have the consequence of not only hampering security operations and intelligence." The privacy watchdog especially objects to the way of handling the exchange of DNA data and urges on caution regarding the introduction of biometric data in passports. He remarked that, in the fight against crime, data protection adequate measures had very often been disregarded for the sake of security. Third pillar data protection: EDPS strongly advises Council not to adopt current proposal without significant improvements (30.04.07) http://www.edps.europa.eu/EDPSWEB/webdav/site/mySite/shared/Documents/EDPS/PressNews/Press/2007/EDPS-2007-4-EN_FDDP3.pdf Third opinion of the European Data Protection Supervisor on the Proposal for a Council Framework Decision on the protection of personal data processed in the framework of police and judicial co-operation in criminal matters (27.04.2007) http://www.edps.europa.eu/EDPSWEB/webdav/site/mySite/shared/Documents/Consultation/Opinions/2007/07-04-27_3dpillar_3_EN.pdf EU Data Protection Supervisor warns against networking police databases (3.05.2007) http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/89219/ ============================================================ 3. PNR deal ratification postponed by the Czech Senate ============================================================ The ratification by the Czech Parliament of the proposed agreement between the European Union and the Unites States of America on the processing and transfer of passenger name record (PNR) data has been taken off the agenda based on the position of the Green Party MPs. On 23 April 2007, EDRI-member Iuridicum Remedium - Czech Republic sent a written appeal to the members of the Green Party parliamentary club, recommending them to vote against the ratification of the proposed agreement between the European Union and the Unites States of America on the processing and transfer of passenger name record (PNR) data for the following reasons: The scope of the agreement submitted for approval as parliamentary paper no. 162 by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Transport has been (in comparison with the former agreement repealed by the European Court of Justice) "widened substantially (more data requested, considerable weakening if not complete elimination of the purpose limitation, sharing with more and unspecified agencies and countries, undefined retention periods, allowing for more frequent and earlier pushing of data, no guarantees for a definitive switch to the PUSH system, the virtual abolition of the joint evaluation) whereas the protection of personal data of EU citizens and means of legal redress are at best unclear, and probably weaker than under the previous agreement." Further concerns were raised about the "precedent this agreement may set for future agreements with the US on PNR, or on other categories of data (such as bank account details as in the case of SWIFT, or records of telecommunications). The lack of democratic legitimacy regarding rules on the transfer of data must be remedied as a matter of urgency." Moreover, the Department of Homeland Security has been using PNR data in the system called the Automated Targeting System, which violates both EU and US data protection laws. It uses passenger personal data for "risk assessment scoring" and retains the data for up to 40 years. In January 2007, Privacy International and ACLU called for repeal of the EU-US agreement on data transfers on this basis. Decision on the Agreement between the EU and USA passenger name record postponed by the Czech Senate (only in Czech, 25.04.2007) http://www.iure.org/614715 EU original text of the PNR Agreement -submitted as parliamentary paper n.162 (27.10.2006) http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/site/en/oj/2006/l_298/l_29820061027en00290031.pdf EDRI-gram: Travellers privacy and European Union (30.07.2006) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number4.16/prague (Thanks to Marek Tichy - EDRI-member Iuridicum Remedium, Czech Republic) ============================================================ 4. RapidShare sues German rights holder association ============================================================ Rapidshare AG sued the German society for musical performing and mechanical reproduction rights (GEMA) in order to clarify the legal situation regarding free file hosting in Germany. The counter-attack from Rapidshare, a well-known free file hosting provider based in Switzerland, comes after the suit initiated in Germany by GEMA in January 2007 for distributing MP3 files on Rapidshare.com. GEMA won a preliminary injunction in the first lawsuit that was upheld by the appeal in March of the District Court of Cologne. The District Court in Cologne had considered that Rapidshare was liable for copyright infringements even if the works were uploaded by the users and not by the provider. As a result of the GEMA action, Rapidshare was forced to stop the distribution of works from the GEMA catalogue and to actively monitor uploads of these works. Rapidshare argues that this activity is close to impossible and is not covered by the German copyright law either. Rapidshare CEO Bobby Chang considers that people have the right to make backup copies of their music and that it is practically impossible to distinguish between legal and unauthorized uses of MP3s. "We are confident that it is possible to solve the conflict with GEMA while at the same time paying tribute to innovation" said Chang. Rapidshare sues rights holders (19.04.2007) http://www.p2p-blog.com/item-280.html RapidShare AG press release (only in German, 18.04.2007) http://www.blogspan.net/377-rapidshare-ag-klagt-gegen-gema-welche-prufungspflichten-hat-ein-webhoster.html EDRI-gram: Temporary injunction against RapidShare.de (31.01.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.2/rapidshare ============================================================ 5. The EDPS Annual Report for 2006 shows more concern for data protection ============================================================ The European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) has issued its report for 2006 that includes activities and events as well as the main trends of the past year and draws conclusions related to complaints, developments in security, justice, freedom and new technologies with possible impact on personal data protection. One of the conclusions of the report is that while the number of complaints has increased, it is still low and only 20% of the complaints made in 2006 were valid. "A large majority of the complaints received continued to fall outside of the supervisory competences of the EDPS, for instance because they dealt exclusively with processing of personal data on the level of the member states, where national Data Protection Authorities are competent," said the report. The report shows that data protection continues to be a significant challenge and more work is needed to make data protection rules and practices be implemented in the European laws and "to develop a data protection culture as part of good governance". It also states concern regarding the increasing tendency of authorities to establish central databases and large scale IT systems. According to EDPS, state databases continuously exceed their function, not always to the benefit of people and there is "the risk of illegitimate use" of these databases. "The EDPS has observed a trend in that once a database has been established, access to it is extended to more authorities, for other purposes than those for which it was set up." He believes that the cooperation between the police forces and the judiciary systems have been developed without a proper protection for the citizens' data protection rights. European Data Protection Supervisor - Annual Report 2006 - Executive Summary http://www.edps.europa.eu/EDPSWEB/webdav/site/mySite/shared/Documents/EDPS/Publications/Annualreport/2006/AR_2006_Summary_EN.pdfort European Data Protection Supervisor- Annual Report 2006 http://www.edps.europa.eu/EDPSWEB/webdav/site/mySite/shared/Documents/EDPS/Publications/Annualreport/2006/AR_2006_EN.pdf Most complaints to EU privacy watchdog are misdirected (2.05.2007) http://www.out-law.com//default.aspx?page=8015 ============================================================ 6. Failure of the Scottish e-voting system ============================================================ The electronic voting system used in the Scottish Parliamentary Elections on 3 May 2007 went on as the security experts had worned and the Scotland Office announced an urgent investigation on the "serious technical failures" having delayed the announcement of results in several areas. Several counts were delayed and about 140 000 votes (approx. 7% of the total votes cast) may be discounted because of the problems that occurred with the new electronic counting system, used for the first time in Scotland. The independent Electoral Commission, set up by the Parliament to monitor elections, had previously advised against the system with different types of election used by the UK Department for Constitutional Affairs (DCA) in the elections for the local councils, the Scottish Parliament and the Welsh assembly. The experimental system included early voting in person up to two weeks in advance, internet voting, touch-phone telephone voting or e-counting as was the case for the Scottish Parliament. In spite of the testing in advance, problems with the automatic counting system occurred causing the suspension of the counting for some time. DRS Data Services, which supplied the electronic counting machines, stated to BBC that the delays had been caused by a "small issue" that their technical staff was doing efforts to solve. "The e-counting system has not crashed. This is a temporary interruption to one small aspect of the overall process," said the company spokeswomen. However, the system was described as a fiasco by the thirty experts from North America invited to witness the new electronic voting system. Robert Richie, executive director of US-based organisation Fair Vote, considered as "totally unacceptable to have so many votes spoiled" and stated: "We were also very concerned about the lack of uniform standards in judging what votes were rejected and which were deemed to be valid". The Electoral Commission will perform an extended statutory review into the election. The Scotland Office spokesman said: "It is important that they look as a matter of urgency into delays in postal ballots, the high number of spoiled ballot papers, and the performance of the electronic counting machines." E-voting policy review after Scottish ballot chaos (4.05.2007) http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/2007/05/04/41323/E-voting+policy+review+after+Scottish+ballot+chaos.htm Inquiry launched into Scottish voting confusion (4.05.2007) http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKL0429559920070504 International experts slam ballot fiasco (6.05.2007) http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,2073641,00.html Security fear over internet voting (2.05.2007) http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2070296,00.html Vote early, vote often (1.05.2007) http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/david_hencke/2007/05/vote_early_vote_often.html ============================================================ 7. First draft on data retention law in Romania ============================================================ A first draft law for the implementation of the data retention directive was presented at the end of April 2007 by the Romanian Ministry of Communications and Information Technology for public consultation. The ministry also organized on 26 April a public debate on the draft law. The first draft was achieved in cooperation with a number of public bodies including the Ministry of Justice, Ministry of Internal Affairs or the Romanian Data Protection Authority. The text proposing a 12-month period of traffic data retention, without any explanatory reports, has received criticism from ISPs and other telecom operators that believe it puts a high financial burden on them. The draft clearly specifies that the content of the communications cannot be retained by the operators, considering the retention of the content as well as any retained data transfer without a proper judicial authorization as crimes. The retained data should be deleted at the end of the 12 month period. Only the electronic communication providers that have notified the Regulatory Authority are subject to data retention obligations and there are no provisions for the hosting or other online service providers. The retained data can be accessed by prosecutors only in the penal cases related to organized crime and terrorism crimes and with a proper specific judged-approved access authorization. The prosecutor can ask, through a specific ordinance, for access to the data as a provisional measure, if this is necessary due to specific circumstances that could otherwise put in danger the penal investigation. But in this case, the prosecutor's decision together with the data needs to be confirmed by a judge in 48 hours. If a judge does not confirm the prosecutor's ordinance, all the accessed data will be destroyed. The very detailed procedure regarding access by prosecutors to the retained data is in opposition with Article 16 of the draft text that allows, "in case of a threat to the national security", the request of the retained data by "the specific bodies, as explained in the laws on national security". The vagueness of this article was criticized in the public debate, the participants considering that this could leave room for discriminatory access by the Romanian secret services. As regards the type of data retained, the Romanian draft is only a translation of the European Directive on data retention. The public consultation will end on 10 May 2007 and the text could be approved by the Government and then sent to the Parliament for consideration. Draft law on data retention by public electronic communication providers (only in Romanian, 04.2007) http://www.mcti.ro/index.php?id=16&lege=383 MCIT Publicly Debates the Retention of Data Generated or Processed in Connection with the Provision of Publicly available electronic communications services or of public communications networks (26.04.2007) http://www.mcti.ro/index.php?id=28&lege=1257&L=1 EDRI - Member APTI - Romania - Opinion of the draft data retention law (only in Romanian, 9.05.2007) http://www.apti.ro/opinie_APTI_Legedatetrafic_9052007.pdf ============================================================ 8. New calls for computer online searches by German authorities ============================================================ The German authorities seem to have a higher desire to push for a legal basis of the online searches of personal computers in Germany, despite the Federal Supreme Court decision in February 2007 that, according to the German Code of Criminal Procedure, decided that online police snooping was illegal. Wolfgang Schduble, The German Federal Minister of the Interior, has asked again to adopt stricter security rules that are essential in the fight against terror. Schduble said that terrorists were beginning to set their sights on Germany and "These days the Internet is the place where terrorists from all over the world arrange to meet". This is why it is essential to make the online searches of computers a legal possibility for the German law enforcement. The online searches of computers by the secret services have been a reality in Germany since 2005, following an order to do so by then-Interior Minister Otto Schily. The statement was admitted by the Chancellor's Office that did not reveal the number of searches. The German Government stated that it did not see any breach of the privacy of telecommunications in these actions. Gisela Piltz, spokesperson for home affairs from the FDP in the Bundestag, who forced the government to admit the searches, said that "the cat is out of the bag". The Social Democratic Party has accused Mr. Schduble of engaging in a "hypocritical debate" and the new approach is like "a recipe for asking for trouble". The German Supreme Court president, Hans-J|rgen Papier, told the Frankfurt Press Club that the politicians were going too far in asking for greater security and they were forgetting that the state is also obliged of ensuring civil rights. Minister of the Interior renews call for legal online PC search option (4.05.2007) http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/89294 German government admits it is already conducting online searches (26.04.2007) http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/88895 EDRI-gram: Online police searches found illegal in Germany (14.02.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.3/online-searches EDRI-gram: Proposal of computers online searching in Germany (20.12.2006) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number4.24/computer-online-searching ============================================================ 9. Recommended Action ============================================================ Public consultation on the Regulation regarding public access to European Parliament, Council and Commission documents (Regulation 1049/2001). http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/07/511&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en http://ec.europa.eu/transparency/revision/index_en.htm For Dutch readers - Petition for more flexible contracts for members of the rights collecting society which allow them to choose the conditions under which to release their own music and use CC licenses. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/bumawakeup/ ============================================================ 10. Agenda ============================================================ 15-16 May 2007, Brussels, Belgium The European Patent Conference - EUROPACO-2 http://www.eupaco.org/eupaco2 18 May 2007, Oxford, UK Global Internet Filtering Conference 2007 The OpenNet Initiative is holding its first public conference to discuss the current state of play of Internet filtering worldwide. http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/oniconference07/Main_Page 18-19 May 2007, Brasov, Romania eLiberatica - The Benefits of Open and Free Technologies - Romanian IT Open Source and Free Software Conference http://www.eliberatica.ro/ 26 May 2007, Zurich, Switzerland Creative Commons Switzerland - Launch Event http://www.tweakfest.ch/festival/2007/program/program_detail_de.php?id=program1175721754658327?conference?3 11-15 June 2007, Geneva, Switzerland Provisional Committee on Proposals Related to a WIPO Development Agenda: Fourth Session http://www.wipo.int/meetings/en/details.jsp?meeting_id=11927 11-12 June 2007, Strasbourg, France Council of Europe - Octopus Interface 2007 - Cooperation against Cybercrime http://www.coe.int/t/e/legal_affairs/legal_co-operation/combating_economic_crime/3_Technical_cooperation/CYBER/Octopus_if_2007.asp 12 June 2007, Berlin, Germany German Federal Commissioner for Data Protection and Freedom of Information - Symposium "Data Protection in Europe" http://www.bfdi.bund.de/cln_029/nn_533554/DE/Oeffentlichkeitsarbeit/Termine/2007/Symposium120607Berlin.html 14 June 2007, Paris, France ENISA/EEMA European eIdentity conference - Next Generation Electronic Identity - eID beyond PKI http://enisa.europa.eu/pages/eID/eID_ws2007.htm 15-17 June 2007, Dubrovnik, Croatia Creative Commons iSummit 2007 http://wiki.icommons.org/index.php/ISummit_2007 17-22 June 2007 Seville, Spain 19th Annual FIRST Conference, "Private Lives and Corporate Risk" http://www.first.org/conference/2007/ 18-22 June 2007, Geneva, Switzerland Second Special Session of the Standing Committee on Copyright and Related Rights (SCCR) http://www.wipo.int/meetings/en/details.jsp?meeting_id=12744 ============================================================ 11. 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MwG always want to depict the terrorists as everywhere and themselves as just barely holding back a tide of destruction. -TD >From: Jay Mailinglists >To: Eugen Leitl >CC: cypherpunks at jfet.org >Subject: Re: How Terrorists Send Money >Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:58:02 +0700 > >Hawala networks already use some form of steganography...manipulating >invoices of goods to hide the transfer of money. > >http://www.interpol.int/Public/FinancialCrime/MoneyLaundering/hawala/default.asp > >"...many hawala transactions (legitimate and illegitimate) are conducted in >the context of import/export businesses, the manipulation of invoices, as >discussed above, is a very common means of settling accounts after the >transactions have been made." > > >Eugen Leitl wrote: >>On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 05:38:41PM +0700, Jay Mailinglists wrote: >> >>>This is not quite the case of terrorists using mobile payments. >>> >> >>I thought terrorists were using Hawala. >>(And, since it's increasingly using faxes and email, the NSA >>has a field day with it. Somebody educate them about cryptography >>and steganography). _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_MAY07 From camera_lumina at hotmail.com Thu May 10 03:08:52 2007 From: camera_lumina at hotmail.com (Tyler Durden) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 06:08:52 -0400 Subject: How Terrorists Send Money In-Reply-To: <4642D08A.40002@gmail.com> Message-ID: Eh. If terrorists were really sending a lot of money around we'd see stuff blowing up in New York all the time, because a few cops 100 feet away from the mid-town tunnel entrace ain't going to be able to do much about a guy in a loaded van with a dead-man switch. In other words, when potential terrorists get to the States, that Hawala is probably used to funnel untaxed money into actual businesses. MwG always want to depict the terrorists as everywhere and themselves as just barely holding back a tide of destruction. -TD >From: Jay Mailinglists >To: Eugen Leitl >CC: cypherpunks at jfet.org >Subject: Re: How Terrorists Send Money >Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:58:02 +0700 > >Hawala networks already use some form of steganography...manipulating >invoices of goods to hide the transfer of money. > >http://www.interpol.int/Public/FinancialCrime/MoneyLaundering/hawala/default.asp > >"...many hawala transactions (legitimate and illegitimate) are conducted in >the context of import/export businesses, the manipulation of invoices, as >discussed above, is a very common means of settling accounts after the >transactions have been made." > > >Eugen Leitl wrote: >>On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 05:38:41PM +0700, Jay Mailinglists wrote: >> >>>This is not quite the case of terrorists using mobile payments. >>> >> >>I thought terrorists were using Hawala. >>(And, since it's increasingly using faxes and email, the NSA >>has a field day with it. 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Many experts say the likelihood of al Qaeda or some other terrorist group producing a working nuclear weapon with illicitly obtained weapons-grade fuel is not large, but such a strike would be far more lethal, frightening and disruptive than the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Not only could the numbers killed and wounded be far higher, but the explosion could, experts say, ignite widespread fires, shut down most transportation, halt much economic activity and cause a possible disintegration of government order. The efforts to prepare a detailed blueprint for survival took a step forward last month when senior government and military officials and other experts, organized by a joint Stanford-Harvard program called the Preventive Defense Project, met behind closed doors in Washington for a day-long workshop. The session, called "The Day After," was premised on the idea that efforts focusing on preventing such a strike were no longer enough, and that the prospect of a collapse of government order was so great if there were an attack that the country needed to begin preparing an emergency program. One of the participants, retired Vice Adm. Roger Rufe, is a senior official at the Department of Homeland Security who is currently designing the government's nuclear attack response plan. The organizers of the nonpartisan project, Stanford's William Perry, a secretary of defense in the Clinton administration, and Harvard's Ashton Carter, a senior Defense Department official during the Clinton years, assumed the detonation of a bomb similar in size to the weapon that destroyed Hiroshima in World War II. Such a weapon, with a force of around 10 to 15 kilotons, is small compared with most Cold War-era warheads, but is roughly the yield of a relatively simple bomb. That would be considerably more powerful and lethal than a so-called dirty bomb, which is a conventional explosive packed with some dangerous radioactive material that would be dispersed by the explosion. The 41 participants -- including the directors of the country's two nuclear weapons laboratories, Homeland Security officials, a number of top military commanders and former government officials -- discussed how all levels of government ought to respond to protect the country from a second nuclear attack, to limit health problems from the radioactive fallout and to restore civil order. Comments inside the session were confidential, but a number of the participants described their views and the ideas exchanged. A paper the organizers are writing, summarizing their recommendations, urges local governments and individuals to build underground bomb shelters, much as people did in the early days of the Cold War; encourages authorities who survive to prevent evacuation of at least some of the areas attacked for three days to avoid roadway paralysis and damage from exposure to radioactive fallout; and proposes suspending regulations on radiation exposure so that first responders would be able to act, even if that caused higher cancer rates. "The public at large will expect that their government had thought through this possibility and to have planned for it," Carter said in an interview. "This kind of an event would be unprecedented. We have had glimpses of something like this with Hiroshima, and glimpses with 9/11 and with Katrina. But those are only glimpses." Perhaps the most sobering issue discussed was the possibility of a chaotic, long-term crisis triggered by fears that the attackers might have more bombs. Such uncertainty could sow panic nationwide. "If one bomb goes off, there are likely to be more to follow," Carter said. "This fact, that nuclear terrorism will appear as a syndrome rather than a single episode, has major consequences." It would, he added, require powerful government intervention to force people to do something many may resist -- staying put. Fred Ikle, a former Defense Department official in the Reagan administration who authored a book last year urging attack preparation, "Annihilation from Within," said that the government should plan how it could restrict civil liberties and enforce a sort of martial law in the aftermath of a nuclear attack, but also have guidelines for how those liberties could be restored later. That prospect underscored a central divide among participants at the recent meeting, several said. Some participants argued that the federal government needs to educate first responders and other officials as quickly as possible on how to act even if transportation and communication systems break down, as seems likely, and if the government is unable to issue orders. "There was a clear consensus that a nuclear bomb detonated in the United States or a friendly country would be an earth-shaking event, and we need to know how we will respond beforehand," said Ikle. "I wish we had started earlier, because this kind of planning can make an important difference." But others said the meeting made it clear that the results of any attack would be so devastating and the turmoil so difficult to control, if not impossible, that the lesson should have been that the U.S. government needs to place a far greater emphasis on prevention. "Your cities would empty and people would completely lose confidence in the ability of the government to protect them," said Steve Fetter, dean of the School of Public Policy at the University of Maryland. "You'd have nothing that resembles our current social order. I'm not sure any preparation can be sufficient to deal with that." Fetter added, "We have to hold current policymakers more responsible" for taking all out measures to prevent a nuclear attack. Raymond Jeanloz, a nuclear weapons expert at UC Berkeley and a government adviser on nuclear issues, said that California might be better prepared than most states because of long-standing plans for dealing with earthquakes and other natural disasters. Those plans, he said, could be a useful model for first responders. He added, as others did, that the dislocation and panic caused by a nuclear strike could make any responses unpredictable. 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It's time for the system to be rebalanced. In fact, I believe, it is even more important because it is the snail trail that connects the people involved. Significant sized anti-social activities are very rarely one-man bands. Given this, rather than requiring proof of identity to open bank accounts, etc, we should encourage transactions through the normal channels in order to better follow the money, if we are truly after criminals. All the extra controls do is force ordinary people who can't, for whatever reason, meet the proof of identity standards to create covert channels to transact their business. These then become the means the real crooks then use to commit whatever it is they do. The best parallels I can think of are Prohibition and the War on Drugs. Look at the total chaos brought on by Prohibition. Fortunately we were wise enough to put a stop to that relatively, for social controls, quickly. 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Name: not available Type: text/html Size: 2753 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wavy at rayservers.net Mon May 14 15:29:55 2007 From: wavy at rayservers.net (Wavyhill) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:29:55 -0700 Subject: [gsc] From the "Know Your Enemy" Department Message-ID: All, I ran across this study which I think is worthy of bookmarking for several reasons: "INFORMAL VALUE TRANSFER SYSTEMS, TERRORISM AND MONEY LAUNDERING" www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/208301.pdf It comes from the National Institute of Justice by way of The National Criminal Justice Reference Service, funded by a DOJ grant, eventually becoming a joint project of the Treasury and Justice departments. It references "The Non-Traditional Methodologies Section" a newly created part of FINCEN. There are hints that this may have been involved in 'recent events'. Though the main focus is on Hawala and related channels, there is some treatement of emerging "high tech Internet payment services", likely a reference to us, though DGCs are not ecplicitly mentioned (the study was commissioned in 2002 and distributed, though never published, in 2003). One of the most interesting aspects is that it is a veritable textbook of ways to transfer value internationally outside of the regulated banking system. You could teach a course from it. It's remarkably even handed. Points out that criminals and terrorists actually make much more use of regulated channels, that informal channels have their legitimate uses, that zealous opposition to them only forces them further underground and makes criminals of ordinary people, that such prosecution is a waste of political capital and law enforcement resources, that it can create more enemies that it is worth, and so on. I think this merits study especially because I believe the roots of the current anti-DGC actions are in the organizations and policies referenced here and we should study the opposition at least as carefully as they are studying us. cheers, wavyhill --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. 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Many money launderers are lawyers and accountants with numerous legitimate clients who have no idea their trusted advisor moves illicit funds for criminal organisations. They think he is just another diligent professional serving the business community. Two Special Agents that I knew to be from the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division in Fort Lauderdale, barged into the office and announced that I was under arrest. These agents had previously sought to obtain information from me about my clients' offshore tax haven financial activity, and had subpoenaed me to appear before a Grand Jury investigating my clients. They were understandably quite unhappy when I refused to testify, and since the government prosecutor declined to give me immunity (I was also a target), they were unable to obtain details of the clients' tax haven corporations. Therefore, arresting me that day two years later must have been quite satisfying. I was driven downtown to the US District courthouse, and learned that I was being charged with: * Racketeering (RICO) Conspiracy, which could result in a sentence of 20 years to life in federal prison upon conviction. * Conspiracy to defraud the Internal Revenue Service by interfering with the lawful collection of taxes, another felony, with a 5 year term of imprisonment. Dumped into a holding cell, I was brought before a magistrate judge that afternoon, who released me on bond after a short hearing where he noted that my substantial ties to the community made me a low risk for flight. Since I had resided in Miami for twenty years, he knew that I was not about to flee before trial, and lose my license to practise law. How did a decorated military veteran of America's wars, who had never before been arrested, and with seventeen years of experience as a lawyer in Miami, come to be before the court under such circumstances? To answer that question, we must turn back the clock ten years, and enter the sordid world of narcotics trafficking at a time when it exploded upon the North American market. The House on Twenty-Third Street. It was a tattered, white wood-frame home in Miami's middle class Shenandoah neighborhood, complete with front porch swing, and an old Pan American Airways street number, evidently left by a prior owner or tenant. A quiet street in an anonymous, older part of town. Nobody paid much attention to the residents. That house had but one occupant; Let's call him Bill Baker. Bill was an American, born in St. Louis. The son of two missionaries, his family had moved to Cuba when Bill was a small child, and he grew up in that Caribbean nation. After military service with the Marines in Vietnam, Bill had moved to Miami, where he soon found that his unique bilingual, bicultural background made him eminently suitable as a liaison between Colombian drug smugglers, and Americans and Cubans seeking to move cocaine and marijuana to consumers throughout the United States and Canada. Bill's home was the point of contact between the smugglers and the dealers, and I came to live in that home with him for several months at a critical time in my life, picking up not only a working knowledge of drug smuggling trade-craft, but a host of criminal clients as well. In our next installment: the journey from lawyer to money launderer begins. 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International Declaration on G8 and Intellectual Property launched 10. Romanian open source community gets together 11. Polish people arrested for publishing movie translations 12. Recommended Reading 13. Agenda 14. About ============================================================ 1.US official makes PNR demands to the European Parliament ============================================================ As the negotiations of the PNR (Passenger Name Records) issue continue between the US Government and the European Parliament, during his visit to Brussels on 14 May, US Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff asked for more relaxed restrictions on the personal data transfer from the airline companies. The interim agreement on PNR between EU and US expires in July 2007 and unless a common agreement is reached by then, airlines are in a difficult position, facing either being sued in Europe for providing these data in the US or in the US for not sharing the information. Chertoff addressed the Parliament's Committee on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs asking for looser privacy safeguard conditions in the transfer of the personal data of passengers flying from Europe to US. The European Parliament has resisted until now, being concerned on personal data protection issues. One of the restrictions Chertoff referred to in asking for looser conditions was the use of the data limiting their dissemination to institutions that have strict privacy safeguards standards as in the EU. Chertoff considers that in order to stop terrorism, the data have to be shared among all US government agencies. He also stated the U.S. wanted to hold the data for 40 years but he also said this was negotiable. While the European Commissioner for justice and home affairs Franco Frattini said he was confident the EU and the US could reach an agreement on how to handle personal information about European citizens flying to America, there were voices that asked uncomfortable questions to Chertoff. MEP Sophie in 't Veld, the rapporteur responsible for PNR policy asked if PNR were used for purposes other than counter-terrorism, such as control of infectious diseases, or private purposes of certain companies such as insurance companies. The answer was that the use of PNR by private companies was illegal and those infringing the law would be brought to justice. But PNR data are first of all commercial records created and used for commercial purposes by travel companies and Chertoff 's answer would imply that these companies are forbidden to use these data and that would make impossible for them to operate. US has generally more lax laws on privacy and data protection and there is no law restricting them from passing part or all of those data to a third party, or using the data for other purposes than those for which the data had been collected. Chertoff also claimed that "PNR data is protected under the U.S. Privacy Act and the Freedom of Information Act, among other laws, as well as the robust oversight provided through ... American courts." However, Privacy Act applies only to U.S. persons, not EU citizens and residents. Sophie in 't Veld also asked Chertoff if he was really interested in a compromise "instead imposing unilaterally US standards and wishes" but she did not get a clear answer. "It is never justified to give unlimited and uncontrolled powers to any government," said in 't Veld. US asks Europe to relax privacy rules for new airline deal (15.05.2007) http://www.out-law.com//default.aspx?page=8051 U.S., EU Hopeful on Airline Data Privacy Pact (14.05.2007) http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131800-c,privacy/article.html/ Did Chertoff lie to the European Parliament? (15.05.2007) http://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/001259.html Does the Chicago Convention authorize government demands for PNR's? No. (18.05.2007) http://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/001263.html Video of the PNR hearing (14.05.2007) http://media.ffii.org/Chertoff070514_PNR_hearing/ ============================================================ 2. UK implements the Data Retention Directive ============================================================ The UK Home Office is presently implementing the Data Retention Directive that will oblige telephony and internet service providers to keep data for 12 months. The decision was taken without any debate by simple "affirmative" votes in the parliament and the Directive is to be implemented by 15 September 2007 for fixed and mobile telephones and 18 months later for internet services (including VOIP telephony). The Home Office intents to implement the Directive by a Regulation that will replace the current "voluntary" Code and does not seem to have taken into consideration any risk related to the privacy of personal data. Moreover, the government says that the EC Directive covering serious crime can be used for any crime and that there is no need for public or parliamentary discussion on privacy, civil liberties or human rights issues as these have already been discussed at the EU level. Tony Bunyan, Statewatch editor, comments: "The collection and retention of everyone's communications data is a momentous decision, one that should not be slipped through parliament without anyone noticing as the government plans to do. The government's proposal changes a voluntary agreement into a binding law, on these grounds alone there should be primary legislation. Moreover, the EC Directive limits the purpose for which data can be retained to "serious crime" but the government intends to extend the scope to all crime however minor." Having in view the character of the data retained, consumers and telecoms companies need safeguards concerning the use of these data. Under the EC Directive, all countries are required to adopt measures that ensure the data can only be used by competent national authorities. Yet, UK's draft regulation and consultation process makes no reference on this. Also there is nothing in the Regulation covering sanctions and remedies for unauthorised use of the data as stipulated in the EC Directive. Further more, the data can also be obtained in the absence of existing court proceedings and can be available to anyone who can convince the Courts that they have a right to access them. Keeping personal data should help law enforcement authorities in their fight against crime and for national security purposes. On the other hand, telecom companies must protect their customers' privacy and, according to the draft regulations, they will not be able to protect these data by destroying it. The only positive element for them is that, at least, the government proposes to compensate them for compliance costs and litigants are obliged to pay for disclosure of documents which they request from third parties. Mandatory data retention in the UK - Statewatch analysis (05.2007) http://www.statewatch.org/news/2007/may/uk-data-ret.pdf Data retention: a balancing act for telcos (10.05.2007) http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article1774049.ece ============================================================ 3. Google is profiling online gamers ============================================================ Google has filed a patent in Europe and in US on a profiling technology planning to create psychological profiles of web users based on their behaviour at playing on-line games. The company thinks it can gather up information to shape the personality of web users according to the way they react and take decisions while playing online and then sell these psychological profiles to advertisers. The patent says: "User dialogue (e.g. from role playing games, simulation games, etc) may be used to characterize the user (e.g. literate, profane, blunt or polite, quiet etc). Also, user play may be used to characterize the user (e.g. cautious, risk-taker, aggressive, non-confrontational, stealthy, honest, cooperative, uncooperative, etc)." On the basis of these profiles, adverts inside online games could be shaped to address the people's interests, tastes and tendencies. Adverts that appear inside the game could thus be more "relevant to the user", Google says. The patent says that information from previously saved games could be accessed from memory cards. "Such saved information may be thought of state information, and offers a valuable source of information to the advertisers" and also that Google could also monitor people playing on any game console that connects to the internet, including the Sony PlayStation, Nintendo Wii and Microsoft's Xbox. These plans have created concerns for privacy campaigners, who consider that the implications of compiling and storing such detailed information are "alarming". Sue Charman the Open Rights Group said: "I can understand why they are interested in this, but I would be deeply disturbed by a company holding a psychological profile. Whenever you have large amounts of information it becomes attractive to people - we've already seen the American federal government going to court over data from companies including Google." The patent gives alarming examples of the invasive type of approach the advertisers could use, such as: "In a car racing game, after a user crashes his Honda Civic, an announcer could be used to advertise by saying 'if he had a Hummer, he would have gotten the better of that altercation', etc. If the user has been playing for over two hours continuously, the system may display ads for Pizza Hut, Coke, coffee." The experts say that although such scanning is already done by some web companies that use keywords for online advertising based on basic attributes, such kind of complete profiles viewed by the Google patent would go much further in combining information sources to put names and addresses to the anonymous profiles. Google stated to The Guardian that it had no plan in the next future regarding this patent and that this was only one of the large number of patents filed during the last months by the company. "Google registers different patents irrespective of whether we actually intend to use them" was Google spokesman's statement. Google may use games to analyse net users (12.05.2007) http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2078061,00.html Google Patents Gamer Profiling Technology (14.05.2007) http://www.next-en.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5606&Itemid=2 Google Plans to Secretly Track Your Online Gaming (12.05.2007) http://spong.com/article/12548/Google_Plans_to_Secretly_Track_Your_Online_Gaming?cb=352 Google's online gaming patent alarms privacy advocates (14.05.2007) http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2007/05/14/googles-online-gaming-patent-alarms-privacy-advocates/ ============================================================ 4. UK House of Commons culture committee wants copyright extension ============================================================ The copyright term for sound recordings is back on the public agenda in UK, after a report from the House of Commons culture committee has recommended its extension from 50 to 70 years, despite the negative feedback received earlier from Andrew Gowers' report or a recent study commissioned by the European Union and made public in January 2007. The Culture committee report considered that the musicians have a "moral right" to keep control of their creations while alive and that 7000 people will lose in the next years their royalties from the 50s and 60s recordings. Also the report considered there was a non-reasonable difference between the copyright term for songwriters, whose families keep the copyright 70 years after the death of the author and the 50-year rule for sound recordings. "We recommend that the government should press the European Commission to bring forward proposals for an extension of copyright term for sound recordings to at least 70 years.", concluded the report. 77 UK MPs have signed a parliamentary motion calling for this extension. EDRi-member ORG has publicly opposed the change asking from the people to remind the politicians to debate this issue on the basis of evidence - which points firmly against extension - rather than nostalgia. The decision of the UK MPs is opposite to Andrew Gowers' report, backed by the Treasury, that recommended not to extend the copyright term for sound recordings. Moreover, Gowers exclusively revealed to Out-Law Radio last month that, far from leaning towards extension, he almost recommended shortening the term of copyright: "I could have made a case for reducing it based on the economic arguments," he said. "We certainly considered it, and if you look at the report that came from the academics that we commissioned to examine the arguments and examine the evidence they also argued very robustly that 50 years could be arguably more than enough." Copyright extension back on Commons' agenda (16.05.2007) http://www.out-law.com//default.aspx?page=8053 Music stars 'must keep copyright' (17.05.2007) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6661283.stm Copyright extension: Seems our MPs haven't been doing their homework (14.05.2007) http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2007/05/14/copyright-extension-seems-our-mps-havent-been-doing-their-homework/ EDRI-gram: Copyright extension term rejected by EU commissioned report (17.01.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.1/copyright_term ============================================================ 5. The Italian Big Brother Awards for 2007 ============================================================ On 19 May 2007, the two-day e-Privacy Conference in Florence hosted the Big Brother Awards Italy. The candidates for the awards were selected by a jury made of seven members. The people's choice price "The People's lament" was won by far by Telecom Italia especially for the Tavaroli & Co case when a vast system of illegal eavesdropping of telephone conversations was discovered under the company's umbrella. The company's financial maneuvers and court actions have also contributed to its victory. The Municipality of Milan won the award "The Worst Public Agency" for having installed several cameras in the city starting with public parks without giving any information on who would use the recorded data and for having sponsored a private initiative that proposes to the Milanese traders a 50% reimbursement for the installment of cameras on their sideway part. The "Worst private corporation" award was received again by Telecom Italia for having illegally intercepted the conversations of millions of Italian citizens without any constitutional guaranty or requests from the secret services for emergency situations. In a best scenario, the management of the company had lost control over their employees' actions. The award for "The Most Invasive Technology" was received by Google for the large amount of data retained. The company is considered the second most dangerous entity for privacy in the world. With the recent acquisition of DoubleClick.com, the advertising giant, its motto could now be "Don't be evil, buy the Devil!". Paolo Gentiloni, the Minister of Communications received the "Boot in the Mouth" price. He considers that the eavesdropping is not a problem as long as unless such data is made public, especially by the journalists. The "Lifetime Menace" award was adjudicated by the Italian Parliament for having approved a law against the illegal interceptions only when its members considered they were personally in danger. The Italian Parliament has proven lately that the defense of the privacy rights of the Italian citizens is no longer a focus. The positive award "Winston Smith - Privacy Hero" was awarded this year to Representative Maurizio Turco who has presented the Winston Smith Project law against Data Retention, the only law proposal issued during the last year in favor of privacy. The winners of Big Brother Italia (only in Italian, 21.05.2007) http://punto-informatico.it/p.aspx?id=1994208 Big Brother Award Italia 2007 http://bba.winstonsmith.info/ E-privacy 2007 Conference proceedings (18-19.05.2007) http://e-privacy.winstonsmith.info/interventi.html ============================================================ 6. Bulgarian actions against online piracy - "collateral damage" ============================================================ Bulgarian authorities went beyond the EU limits in investigating Internet users and website owners in 2005 according to MEP Antonyia Parvanova who thinks the Bulgarian officials have caused the bankruptcy of some Internet clubs and brought serious damages to a website owner by prosecuting people who had not actually committed any crime. She believes that these cases should be investigated and she stated she would address this matter to the European Commission to verify whether the actions of the Bulgarian authorities did not infringe the European laws, especially article 11 of the Chapter of Human Rights. Rumen Petkov, Bulgaria's Minister of Interior, stated the actions involving the serisure of all the equipment of some Internet clubs followed by very strong mass media coverage had been triggered by EU pressure to "control Internet piracy". The case was dismissed after two years of litigation, the Internet clubs were found not guilty and the equipment was returned but the clubs has already gone bankrupt and the equipment was already outdated. Actions were also taken against the "black boards" where users post and exchange what they have. One of these actions was against ArenaBG.com, one of the most popular websites of this kind. As a result of the police raids and prosecution the owner was out of business. According to Parvanova, due to the publicity created around the case and to false reports regarding his wealth he had to hide for fear of being kidnapped. These cases were brought to the attention of Parvanova by representatives of EDRI-member Internet Society Bulgaria. Bulgarian crackdown on "pirate" Internet captures no one (12.05.2007) http://www.neurope.eu/view_news.php?id=73674 EDRi-gram - Bulgarian Police ordered ISPs to block US-based torrent tracker (12.04.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.7/bulgarian-block-isp ============================================================ 7. Opennet Initiative publishes alarming results on Internet filtering ============================================================ On 19 May 2007 the Opennet Initiative (ONI) held a conference on the state of global internet filtering. On the conference ONI presented the results of its research over the last years. It concludes that an increasing number of coutries is applying filtering to the Internet. The core of the results can be found on ONI's website and will be published in a book in the end of 2007. "It's an alarming increase," according to Ron Deibert, one of the academics leading the ONI Initiative. "Once the tools are in place, authorities realize that the Internet can be controlled. There used to be a myth that the Internet was immune to regulation. Now governments are realizing it's actually the opposite." The academic study has categorized their findings on government Internet filtering into four broad categories: political (such as opposition material), social (such as pornography, gambling), conflict/security (armed conflict, militant groups), and Internet tools (such as anonimizers). There are country reports on 40 specific countries and eight regional reports, including Europe, the last opening with: "In less than a decade, the Internet in Europe has evolved from a virtually unfettered environment to one in which filtering in most countries, particularly within the European Union (EU), is the norm rather than the exception." An important conclusion of ONI is the lack of tranparency of the filtering that was discovered. "What's regrettable about net filtering is that almost always this is happening in the shadows. There's no place you can get an answer as a citizen from your state about how they are filtering and what is being filtered.", according to John Palfrey, director of the Berkman Center for Internet & Society, one of the partners of ONI. Internet filtering in Europe is a point on the agenda of the Council of Europe Group of Specialists on Human Rights in the Information Society (CoE MC-S-IS) in which EDRI is an observer. The first exchanges during the March 2007 meeting of the MC-S-IS group on the technical filtering of content seemed promising, EDRI-Gram reported on 12 April 2007, as a large majority of participating member states expressed strong doubts on both the usefulness of technical filtering measures and their compatibility with Article 10 of the ECHR. Research OpenNet Initiative http://opennet.net/research Governments using filters to censor Internet, survey finds (18.05.2007) http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/17/business/censor.php Global net censorship 'growing' (18.05.2007) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6665945.stm EDRI-gram: CoE to address the impact of technical measures on human rights (12.04.2007) http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.7/coe-human-rights (Contribution by Joris van Hoboken - EDRI-member Bits of Freedom - Netherlands) ============================================================ 8. OECD finds the real piracy losses ============================================================ Financial Times obtained an executive summary of a new report produced by Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) that estimates the trade losses due to piracy and counterfeiting did not exceed 200 billion USD. The report should be endorsed by the OECD board this month and is considered politically sensitive, taking into account that the estimates from the industry show figures up to 3-4 times higher than the OECD estimates based on reported customs seizures in various countries. The efforts of the international business lobbists, that have pushed for Germany to put the fight against counterfeiting on the next G8 summit agenda, could be undermined by this new report. This is why the International Chamber of Commerce Secretary General quickly reacted by considering the OECD figures as "underestimated" and said that "up to 1 000 billion USD in international trade was lost annually" to piracy and counterfeiting. Forgery trade losses 'under $200bn' (7.05.2007) http://www.ft.com/cms/s/acbd064c-fcb9-11db-9971-000b5df10621.html ============================================================ 9. International Declaration on G8 and Intellectual Property launched ============================================================ The German non-profit organization "Netzwerk Freies Wissen" (Free Knowledge Network) heavily criticizes the goals of the conference held by the G8 states' ministers of justice starting on 23 May 2007. The most important item on the agenda is a stronger enforcement of intellectual property. For this reason the Network, together with other organizations and private persons from many countries will present the "Civil Society declaration on the G8 summit 2007 and intellectual property rights". "The goal of this declaration is to point out the severe problems in this area, which have grown throughout the world in the last years", says Petra Buhr, speaker for the network. "Furthermore we demand radical changes in the politics of the G8", she adds. Be it patents on drugs, the protection of seeds that prevent the cultivation of plants or the freedom of education which is threatened by strong copyright laws. The paper demands, that a state has to decide by itself on how far it wants to introduce intellectual property laws and that the pressure, mainly on developing countries, must stop in order to allow a fair development. Also the paper talks about the problems in the G8 states. It claims software patents are a threat to innovation and digital rights management a threat to the worlds cultural heritage. It also demands a massive aid towards alternatives such as free access to knowledge or free software which was financed by public funds. It shows concern at the increasing privatization of public research. Finally the Network demands from the hosting German Government to show its true colours: "It is perfidious to talk about fake T-Shirts and unsafe medicine while actually trying to stop the important production of generic drugs in developing countries", Buhr answers to a statement of Brigitte Zypries, the German minister of justice. "The government arguments are one-sided. The problems caused by ever increasing intellectual property rights are complex and very serious. Alternatives should be chosen instead of enforcing a very corrupt system worldwide" Buhr concludes. The declaration is open for signatories starting today. Among the first signatories of the Declaration are also the EDRI-members Netzwerk Neue Medien, Chaos Computer Club and Swiss Internet User Group SIUG. Declaration - For better development and just access to knowledge in all forms - Against the domination of exclusionary rights on the knowledge economy - A civil society statement concerning intellectual property and the 2007 G8 summit http://www.wissensallmende.de/fileadmin/texte/declarationG8andIPR_final.pdf Tool for signatures http://declaration.wissensallmende.de Statement Minister of Jusice Zypris (15.05 2007): http://www.bmj.bund.de/files/-/2100/150507_Einladung%20M%FCnchen_EN.pdf General information on the G8 meeting by the German government: http://www.bmj.bund.de/enid/3320bc452726d09f1d7597a41995475e,0/G8_Presidency_2__7/Meeting_of_G8_Justice_and_Home_Affairs_Ministers_1d3.html (Thanks to Petra Buhr - Netzwerk Freies Wissen) ============================================================ 10. Romanian open source community gets together ============================================================ Probably the most important conference in Romania on open source and free software took place at the end of the last week - on 18-19 May 2007 in Brasov. The eLiberatica 2007 conference was organized by a new group of IT specialists called Romanian Open Source and Free Software Initiative (ROSI). The conference aimed at bringing community leaders from around the world to talk about the hottest topics in FLOSS movement demonstrating the advantages of adopting, using and developing Open Source and Free Software solutions. The international participants that included Monty Widenius, the main engineer and supervisor of MySQL, Brian Behlendorf, one of the Apache Project initiators or Zak Greant, representing Mozilla Foundation, provided a high level view on the entire FLOSS movement including business, social and technical aspects. Aleksander Farstad, CEO of eZ systems explained how open source development can be used in creating a successful business and the presentations from the Romanian speakers showed examples of locally developed open source products from ERP/CRM solutions to Open Source for Public Libraries or VoIP solutions. The use of open source software and open standards in public administration were highlighted by Georg Greve (president of Free Software Foundation Europe) in its presentation on the necessity of adopting open standards and supporting them at the national level as well. A practical example on adopting FOSS in public administration was shown by Jim Willis, Director of eGovernment and Information Technology from Rhode Island. As some of the Romanian participants pointed out, the Romanian Government preferred until now proprietary software and technologies (with closed source code) at very high prices, "making Romania directly available to foreign corporations and paying hundreds of millions of Euro from public money as licenses." The necessity for a better-organized open source community was highlighted by Bogdan Manolea from EDRI-member APTI Romania, who presented the obstacles the Romanian copyright legislation creates for open source developers and why the open source community should react to those actions supposed to "fight piracy" of the authorities. A similar message was projected by Lucian Savluc, the main organizer of the event, who promoted ROSI as a good framework where the Romanian open source community can be gathered, if there is support, work and involvement. The first step will be the creation of a public portal that will present all the Romanian activities related to FOSS, both in Romanian and English. Other projects will follow as well. Eliberatica 2007 Conference (18-19.05.2007) http://eliberatica.ro/2007/ About ROSI and eLiberatica - past, present and furture (only in Romanian, 20.05.2007) http://www.cianblog.com/2007/05/20/conferinta-eliberatica-despre-rosi-si-eliberatica-trecut-prezent-si-viitor/ Open technologies bring transparency in government, development and knowledge (only in Romanian 22.05.2007) http://politic.ngo.ro/?cmd[222]=i-223-28702 Laws and Open source (only in Romanian, 22.05.2007) http://legi-internet.ro/blogs/index.php?title=open_source_si_legi_despre_eliberatica ============================================================ 11. Polish people arrested for publishing movie translations ============================================================ A popular subtitle exchange community in Poland, Napisy.org, was in shock, after nine of its members were accused of posting illegal translations of movies and were held by the Police for questioning. The Napisy.org community, that gathers approx. 600 000 users, allowed the submission of translated subtitles for movies (especially from English into Polish) for free. The translators did not get any money for their work. The Polish Police had a common intervention in 6 cities of Silesia, Podlachia, Cracow and Szczecin where they entered at 6 AM in some of the translator's homes and took them for questioning. According to the Polish Police, 2000 CDs with allegedly illegal copied movies were also found and 17 computers were seized. Krzysztof Czerepak, the webmaster of napisy.org, contested the information made public by the Police, explaining that he knows only about 6 persons (2 admins, 3 moderators and one translator) and denied the existence of the CDs found by the Police. "The two admins had laptops with fully legal software, while the woman-translator had a company-owned laptop" he added. The webmaster also commented that " most of the amateurish translations appear long before a "professional" translation is prepared. It is also an often omitted fact that a lot of "professionals" use (or steal, naming the things) our translations to do their job. Nobody calls this a violation of the law." The website that was hosted on a German server was shut down and the Polish Police explained that it was a collaboration with the German colleagues for this activity. The people held for questioning could be accused of illegal publication of copyrighted works and could be sentenced to up to 2 years jail time. Poland: Nine people held by police for translating movies (17.05.2007) http://polishlinux.org/gnu/poland-9-people-arrested-for-translating-movies/ ============================================================ 12. Recommended Reading ============================================================ ITU and UNCTAD announced the publication of the World Information Society Report 2007 http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/publications/worldinformationsociety/2007/report.html ============================================================ 13. Agenda ============================================================ 8 May - 22 July 2007, Austria Annual decentralized community event around free software lectures, panel discussions, workshops, fairs and socialising http://www.linuxwochen.at 24 May 2007, Geneva, Switzerland Council of Europe Roundtable - The Internet and public service: do they go together ? http://www.coe.int/t/e/human_rights/media/links/events/WSISFlyer21-05-2007.pdf.pdf 26 May 2007, Zurich, Switzerland Creative Commons Switzerland - Launch Event http://www.tweakfest.ch/festival/2007/program/program_detail_de.php?id=program1175721754658327?conference?3 11-15 June 2007, Geneva, Switzerland Provisional Committee on Proposals Related to a WIPO Development Agenda: Fourth Session http://www.wipo.int/meetings/en/details.jsp?meeting_id=11927 11-12 June 2007, Strasbourg, France Council of Europe - Octopus Interface 2007 - Cooperation against Cybercrime http://www.coe.int/t/e/legal_affairs/legal_co-operation/combating_economic_crime/3_Technical_cooperation/CYBER/Octopus_if_2007.asp 12 June 2007, Berlin, Germany German Federal Commissioner for Data Protection and Freedom of Information - Symposium "Data Protection in Europe" http://www.bfdi.bund.de/cln_029/nn_533554/DE/Oeffentlichkeitsarbeit/Termine/2007/Symposium120607Berlin.html 14 June 2007, Paris, France ENISA/EEMA European eIdentity conference - Next Generation Electronic Identity - eID beyond PKI http://enisa.europa.eu/pages/eID/eID_ws2007.htm 15-17 June 2007, Dubrovnik, Croatia Creative Commons iSummit 2007 http://wiki.icommons.org/index.php/ISummit_2007 17-22 June 2007 Seville, Spain 19th Annual FIRST Conference, "Private Lives and Corporate Risk" http://www.first.org/conference/2007/ 18-22 June 2007, Geneva, Switzerland Second Special Session of the Standing Committee on Copyright and Related Rights (SCCR) http://www.wipo.int/meetings/en/details.jsp?meeting_id=12744 5-11 September 2007 Ars Electronica Festival - Festival for Art, Technology and Society http://www.aec.at/en/festival2007/index.asp ============================================================ 14. 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American computer engineer Laszlo Kish at Texas A&M University in College Station claims to have done just that. He says the thermal properties of a simple wire can be exploited to create a secure communications channel, one that outperforms quantum cryptography keys. His cipher device, which he first proposed in 2005, exploits a property called thermal noise. Thermal noise is generated by the natural agitation of electrons within a conductor, which happens regardless of any voltage passed through it. But it does change depending on the conductor's resistance. Kish and his collaborators at the University of Szeged in Hungary say this can be used to securely pass information, or an encryption key, down any wire, including a telephone line or network cable. In their device, both the sender Alice and the receiver Bob have an identical pair of resistors, one producing high resistance, the other low resistance. The higher the total resistance on the line, the greater the thermal noise. 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For a start, as Kish notes, it takes an "educated eavesdropper" to even realise information is being sent when there seems to be just low-level noise on the line. If they do try to eavesdrop, they can only tell a message is being sent, not what it is, because it's impossible to tell whether Alice has a high or low resistor turned on, and whether the bit of information is a 1 or a 0. What's more, eavesdropping on the line will naturally alter the level of thermal noise, so Alice and Bob will know that someone is listening in. Kish and his team have now successfully built a device that can send a secure message down a wire 2000 kilometres long, much further than the best quantum key distribution (QKD) devices tried so far. Tests show a signal sent via Kish's device is received with 99.98 per cent accuracy, and that a maximum of just 0.19 per cent of the bits sent are vulnerable to eavesdropping. The error rate is down to the inherent resistance of the wire, and choosing a larger wire in future models should help reduce it further. However, this level of security already beats QKD. What's more, the system works with fixed lines, rather than the optical fibres used to carry photons of light at the heart of quantum encryption devices. It is also more robust, as QKD devices are vulnerable to corruption by dust, heat and vibration. It is also much cheaper. "I guess it's around a hundred dollars, at most," Kish says. "This is a system that should be taken seriously," says security specialist Bruce Schneier, who founded network security firm BT Counterpane. He says he was seduced by the simplicity of the idea when it was first proposed by Kish, and now wants to see independent tests of the working model. "I desperately want someone to analyse it," he says. 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In their device, both > the sender Alice and the receiver Bob have an identical pair of resistors, > one producing high resistance, the other low resistance. The higher the > total resistance on the line, the greater the thermal noise. > > Both Alice and Bob randomly choose which resistor to use. A quarter of the > time they will both choose the high resistor, producing a lot of noise on > the line, while a quarter of the time they will both choose the low > resistor, producing little noise. If either detect a high or a low amount > of noise in the line, they ignore any communication. Sounds like a practical secure implementation of this will be very difficult. Consider that if Alice and Bob do not perfectly synchronize the resistor transitions, there will be a window in which an attacker will see a line that is unterminated at one end. It's trivially easy in this case to determine the resistance that has already been connected to the line, and with proper equiment (e.g., TLP) it would also be possible to determine which end of the line is unterminated. Those two pieces of information uniquely determine one bit of the key. Or how about this: if the resistors are not perfectly matched, there is a difference in resistance when Alice chooses low versus when Bob does, leaking key information. Beyond that, resistor properties change over time, which requires that Alice and Bob calibrate their resistors to one another on a regular basis. Any such calibration step gives Mallory yet another way of corrupting the protocol. 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This was for an experiment to establish how diverse the topology of the Tor network is -- an important component of how secure it is against traffic analysis. Thanks to all those who responded to my request; I had a great response and very interesting results. I've now finished the draft version of the resulting paper, which is to be presented at the PET Workshop (Ottawa, Canada, June 20--22 2007) [2]. The latest version of the paper can be found at this URL: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sjm217/papers/pet07ixanalysis.pdf There is also an introduction to the area, and a summary of the paper on my research group's blog "Light Blue Touchpaper": http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/?p=212 My paper, co-authored with Piotr Zielinksi, is a follow-up to Nick Feamster and Roger Dingledine's paper, "Location Diversity in Anonymity Networks" [3]. In it, they point out that bouncing anonymity network traffic around lots of countries might not be as good as it seems because there are a small number of ISPs which show up on many of the links to, from and between Tor nodes. What our paper explores is that even if you deal with this problem, and choose paths with a diverse collection of ISPs, there are still Internet exchanges on many of the paths. These do not appear in the BGP data that Feamster and Dingledine use, which is why I had to resort to a more limited-scale traceroute-based study. So not only are Internet Exchanges good places to put traffic analysis equipment, but some (including LINX [4] and AMS-IX [5]) collect the necessary data anyway, for performance measurement purposes. They only record the headers of one in every few thousand packets, but our paper also shows that, even with such low-quality data, traffic analysis still works. There's certainly no reason to panic about these results, as there is still much more work to be done in this area. For example, the picture in the US, where Internet exchanges are less popular, will likely be different. I do hope that the paper will encourage future work on both establishing more accurate estimates of attack costs and developing defences. Thanks, Steven. 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Thanks to all those who responded to my request; I had a great response and very interesting results. I've now finished the draft version of the resulting paper, which is to be presented at the PET Workshop (Ottawa, Canada, June 20--22 2007) [2]. The latest version of the paper can be found at this URL: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sjm217/papers/pet07ixanalysis.pdf There is also an introduction to the area, and a summary of the paper on my research group's blog "Light Blue Touchpaper": http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/?p=212 My paper, co-authored with Piotr Zielinksi, is a follow-up to Nick Feamster and Roger Dingledine's paper, "Location Diversity in Anonymity Networks" [3]. In it, they point out that bouncing anonymity network traffic around lots of countries might not be as good as it seems because there are a small number of ISPs which show up on many of the links to, from and between Tor nodes. What our paper explores is that even if you deal with this problem, and choose paths with a diverse collection of ISPs, there are still Internet exchanges on many of the paths. These do not appear in the BGP data that Feamster and Dingledine use, which is why I had to resort to a more limited-scale traceroute-based study. So not only are Internet Exchanges good places to put traffic analysis equipment, but some (including LINX [4] and AMS-IX [5]) collect the necessary data anyway, for performance measurement purposes. They only record the headers of one in every few thousand packets, but our paper also shows that, even with such low-quality data, traffic analysis still works. There's certainly no reason to panic about these results, as there is still much more work to be done in this area. For example, the picture in the US, where Internet exchanges are less popular, will likely be different. I do hope that the paper will encourage future work on both establishing more accurate estimates of attack costs and developing defences. Thanks, Steven. [1] http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Feb-2007/msg00138.html [2] http://petworkshop.org/2007/ [3] http://freehaven.net/doc/routing-zones/routing-zones.ps [4] http://www.linx.net/ [5] http://www.ams-ix.net/ -- w: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/sjm217/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl leitl http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE From rah at shipwright.com Mon May 28 09:00:04 2007 From: rah at shipwright.com (R.A. Hettinga) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 12:00:04 -0400 Subject: [Dgcchat] major milestone for loom Message-ID: --- begin forwarded text Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 10:41:47 -0400 From: Patrick Chkoreff User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) To: dgcchat at dgcchat.com Subject: [Dgcchat] major milestone for loom Reply-To: Digital Gold and Silver Discussion List Sender: dgcchat-bounces at dgcchat.com https://loom.cc/ > THE NEW SYSTEM IS READY! > > All users of the old loom system may now use their locations as > passphrases into the new system. Simply enter your location into the > passphrase box above and press Login. ... -- Patrick _______________________________________________ Dgcchat mailing list Dgcchat at dgcchat.com http://mail.dgcchat.com/mailman/listinfo/dgcchat_dgcchat.com --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' From tortalk+Steven.Murdoch at cl.cam.ac.uk Mon May 28 04:03:10 2007 From: tortalk+Steven.Murdoch at cl.cam.ac.uk (Steven Murdoch) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 12:03:10 +0100 Subject: Sampled Traffic Analysis by Internet-Exchange-Level Adversaries Message-ID: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 03:36:05AM -0700, coderman wrote: > you state "an assumption that the global passive adversary is > unrealistic". is this really true in anonymity research circles? The convention in anonymity research is to assume a global passive adversary, since then any system shown to be secure under that model is probably secure in the real world. The problem with this approach is it eliminates all practical low-latency designs, hence the weaker threat model adopted by Tor. I do think that a global passive adversary is stronger than the real world situation. For example, such an adversary could read traffic between two computers in my office, which I suspect is outside of the NSA's capabilities, unless I were targeted for special attention. The actual capabilities will probably lie somewhere between the two extremes. Sometimes your connections through Tor will go via enough monitored nodes to be tracked, sometimes they won't. The interesting question is the relative proportion between the two quantities, and how to change it for the better. > i am also curious if you had considered lower layer propinquity of > physical paths. I had thought about that aspect, but given the shortage of space didn't include it. Perhaps I should for the final version. Traceroute gives a more accurate picture of topology the BGP data (in that it shows up IXes), but it is still not "true". For example, it only discovers devices which reduce the IP TTL, and so will not find MPLS links or long-haul layer-2 VLANs. Then, as you point out, it could be that seemingly disparate traffic is going through the same cable-tunnel, if not the same fibre. On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 03:47:22AM -0700, coderman wrote: > one more comment that ties into your mention PCIe bus limitations. > previous research on monitoring high speeds links has shown FPGA > devices well suited for header and deep packet inspect at line rates > up to 10GigE for hundreds of snort style filter rules. this > approach scales in a linear fashion. The point behind that section was to dispel the myth that traffic analysis is easy, because you can just run tcpdump on off-the-shelf hardware. Actually, on high-speed links it requires serious engineering effort to even capture the data, let alone store it. That said, there is demand for such capabilities and given enough hardware it is possible. 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The world needs to abandon unwanted currencies, replacing them with dollars, euros, and multinational currencies as yet unborn. Benn Steil is Director of International Economics at the Council on Foreign Relations and a co-author of Financial Statecraft. THE RISE OF MONETARY NATIONALISM Capital flows have become globalization's Achilles' heel. Over the past 25 years, devastating currency crises have hit countries across Latin America and Asia, as well as countries just beyond the borders of western Europe -- most notably Russia and Turkey. Even such an impeccably credentialed pro-globalization economist as U.S. Federal Reserve Governor Frederic Mishkin has acknowledged that "opening up the financial system to foreign capital flows has led to some disastrous financial crises causing great pain, suffering, and even violence." The economics profession has failed to offer anything resembling a coherent and compelling response to currency crises. International Monetary Fund (IMF) analysts have, over the past two decades, endorsed a wide variety of national exchange-rate and monetary policy regimes that have subsequently collapsed in failure. They have fingered numerous culprits, from loose fiscal policy and poor bank regulation to bad industrial policy and official corruption. The financial-crisis literature has yielded policy recommendations so exquisitely hedged and widely contradicted as to be practically useless. Antiglobalization economists have turned the problem on its head by absolving governments (except the one in Washington) and instead blaming crises on markets and their institutional supporters, such as the IMF -- "dictatorships of international finance," in the words of the Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz. "Countries are effectively told that if they don't follow certain conditions, the capital markets or the IMF will refuse to lend them money," writes Stiglitz. "They are basically forced to give up part of their sovereignty." Is this right? Are markets failing, and will restoring lost sovereignty to governments put an end to financial instability? This is a dangerous misdiagnosis. In fact, capital flows became destabilizing only after countries began asserting "sovereignty" over money -- detaching it from gold or anything else considered real wealth. Moreover, even if the march of globalization is not inevitable, the world economy and the international financial system have evolved in such a way that there is no longer a viable model for economic development outside of them. The right course is not to return to a mythical past of monetary sovereignty, with governments controlling local interest and exchange rates in blissful ignorance of the rest of the world. Governments must let go of the fatal notion that nationhood requires them to make and control the money used in their territory. National currencies and global markets simply do not mix; together they make a deadly brew of currency crises and geopolitical tension and create ready pretexts for damaging protectionism. In order to globalize safely, countries should abandon monetary nationalism and abolish unwanted currencies, the source of much of today's instability. THE GOLDEN AGE Capital flows were enormous, even by contemporary standards, during the last great period of "globalization," from the late nineteenth century to the outbreak of World War I. Currency crises occurred during this period, but they were generally shallow and short-lived. That is because money was then -- as it has been throughout most of the world and most of human history -- gold, or at least a credible claim on gold. Funds flowed quickly back to crisis countries because of confidence that the gold link would be restored. At the time, monetary nationalism was considered a sign of backwardness, adherence to a universally acknowledged standard of value a mark of civilization. Those nations that adhered most reliably (such as Australia, Canada, and the United States) were rewarded with the lowest international borrowing rates. Those that adhered the least (such as Argentina, Brazil, and Chile) were punished with the highest. This bond was fatally severed during the period between World War I and World War II. Most economists in the 1930s and 1940s considered it obvious that capital flows would become destabilizing with the end of reliably fixed exchange rates. Friedrich Hayek noted in a 1937 lecture that under a credible gold-standard regime, "short-term capital movements will on the whole tend to relieve the strain set up by the original cause of a temporarily adverse balance of payments. If exchanges, however, are variable, the capital movements will tend to work in the same direction as the original cause and thereby to intensify it" -- as they do today. The belief that globalization required hard money, something foreigners would willingly hold, was widespread. The French economist Charles Rist observed that "while the theorizers are trying to persuade the public and the various governments that a minimum quantity of gold ... would suffice to maintain monetary confidence, and that anyhow paper currency, even fiat currency, would amply meet all needs, the public in all countries is busily hoarding all the national currencies which are supposed to be convertible into gold." This view was hardly limited to free marketeers. As notable a critic of the gold standard and global capitalism as Karl Polanyi took it as obvious that monetary nationalism was incompatible with globalization. Focusing on the United Kingdom's interest in growing world trade in the nineteenth century, he argued that "nothing else but commodity money could serve this end for the obvious reason that token money, whether bank or fiat, cannot circulate on foreign soil." Yet what Polanyi considered nonsensical -- global trade in goods, services, and capital intermediated by intrinsically worthless national paper (or "fiat") monies -- is exactly how globalization is advancing, ever so fitfully, today. The political mythology associating the creation and control of money with national sovereignty finds its economic counterpart in the metamorphosis of the famous theory of "optimum currency areas" (OCA). Fathered in 1961 by Robert Mundell, a Nobel Prize-winning economist who has long been a prolific advocate of shrinking the number of national currencies, it became over the subsequent decades a quasi-scientific foundation for monetary nationalism. Mundell, like most macroeconomists of the early 1960s, had a now largely discredited postwar Keynesian mindset that put great faith in the ability of policymakers to fine-tune national demand in the face of what economists call "shocks" to supply and demand. His seminal article, "A Theory of Optimum Currency Areas," asks the question, "What is the appropriate domain of the currency area?" "It might seem at first that the question is purely academic," he observes, "since it hardly appears within the realm of political feasibility that national currencies would ever be abandoned in favor of any other arrangement." Mundell goes on to argue for flexible exchange rates between regions of the world, each with its own multinational currency, rather than between nations. The economics profession, however, latched on to Mundell's analysis of the merits of flexible exchange rates in dealing with economic shocks affecting different "regions or countries" differently; they saw it as a rationale for treating existing nations as natural currency areas. Monetary nationalism thereby acquired a rational scientific mooring. And from then on, much of the mainstream economics profession came to see deviations from "one nation, one currency" as misguided, at least in the absence of prior political integration. The link between money and nationhood having been established by economists (much in the way that Aristotle and Jesus were reconciled by medieval scholastics), governments adopted OCA theory as the primary intellectual defense of monetary nationalism. Brazilian central bankers have even defended the country's monetary independence by publicly appealing to OCA theory -- against Mundell himself, who spoke out on the economic damage that sky-high interest rates (the result of maintaining unstable national monies that no one wants to hold) impose on Latin American countries. Indeed, much of Latin America has already experienced "spontaneous dollarization": despite restrictions in many countries, U.S. dollars represent over 50 percent of bank deposits. (In Uruguay, the figure is 90 percent, reflecting the appeal of Uruguay's lack of currency restrictions and its famed bank secrecy.) This increasingly global phenomenon of people rejecting national monies as a store of wealth has no place in OCA theory. NO TURNING BACK Just a few decades ago, vital foreign investment in developing countries was driven by two main motivations: to extract raw materials for export and to gain access to local markets heavily protected against competition from imports. Attracting the first kind of investment was simple for countries endowed with the right natural resources. (Companies readily went into war zones to extract oil, for example.) Governments pulled in the second kind of investment by erecting tariff and other barriers to competition so as to compensate foreigners for an otherwise unappealing business climate. Foreign investors brought money and know-how in return for monopolies in the domestic market. This cozy scenario was undermined by the advent of globalization. Trade liberalization has opened up most developing countries to imports (in return for export access to developed countries), and huge declines in the costs of communication and transport have revolutionized the economics of global production and distribution. Accordingly, the reasons for foreign companies to invest in developing countries have changed. The desire to extract commodities remains, but companies generally no longer need to invest for the sake of gaining access to domestic markets. It is generally not necessary today to produce in a country in order to sell in it (except in large economies such as Brazil and China). At the same time, globalization has produced a compelling new reason to invest in developing countries: to take advantage of lower production costs by integrating local facilities into global chains of production and distribution. Now that markets are global rather than local, countries compete with others for investment, and the factors defining an attractive investment climate have changed dramatically. Countries can no longer attract investors by protecting them against competition; now, since protection increases the prices of goods that foreign investors need as production inputs, it actually reduces global competitiveness. In a globalizing economy, monetary stability and access to sophisticated financial services are essential components of an attractive local investment climate. And in this regard, developing countries are especially poorly positioned. Traditionally, governments in the developing world exercised strict control over interest rates, loan maturities, and even the beneficiaries of credit -- all of which required severing financial and monetary links with the rest of the world and tightly controlling international capital flows. As a result, such flows occurred mainly to settle trade imbalances or fund direct investments, and local financial systems remained weak and underdeveloped. But growth today depends more and more on investment decisions funded and funneled through the global financial system. (Borrowing in low-cost yen to finance investments in Europe while hedging against the yen's rise on a U.S. futures exchange is no longer exotic.) Thus, unrestricted and efficient access to this global system -- rather than the ability of governments to manipulate parochial monetary policies -- has become essential for future economic development. But because foreigners are often unwilling to hold the currencies of developing countries, those countries' local financial systems end up being largely isolated from the global system. Their interest rates tend to be much higher than those in the international markets and their lending operations extremely short -- not longer than a few months in most cases. As a result, many developing countries are dependent on U.S. dollars for long-term credit. This is what makes capital flows, however necessary, dangerous: in a developing country, both locals and foreigners will sell off the local currency en masse at the earliest whiff of devaluation, since devaluation makes it more difficult for the country to pay its foreign debts -- hence the dangerous instability of today's international financial system. Although OCA theory accounts for none of these problems, they are grave obstacles to development in the context of advancing globalization. Monetary nationalism in developing countries operates against the grain of the process -- and thus makes future financial problems even more likely. MONEY IN CRISIS Why has the problem of serial currency crises become so severe in recent decades? It is only since 1971, when President Richard Nixon formally untethered the dollar from gold, that monies flowing around the globe have ceased to be claims on anything real. All the world's currencies are now pure manifestations of sovereignty conjured by governments. And the vast majority of such monies are unwanted: people are unwilling to hold them as wealth, something that will buy in the future at least what it did in the past. Governments can force their citizens to hold national money by requiring its use in transactions with the state, but foreigners, who are not thus compelled, will choose not to do so. And in a world in which people will only willingly hold dollars (and a handful of other currencies) in lieu of gold money, the mythology tying money to sovereignty is a costly and sometimes dangerous one. Monetary nationalism is simply incompatible with globalization. It has always been, even if this has only become apparent since the 1970s, when all the world's governments rendered their currencies intrinsically worthless. Yet, perversely as a matter of both monetary logic and history, the most notable economist critical of globalization, Stiglitz, has argued passionately for monetary nationalism as the remedy for the economic chaos caused by currency crises. When millions of people, locals and foreigners, are selling a national currency for fear of an impending default, the Stiglitz solution is for the issuing government to simply decouple from the world: drop interest rates, devalue, close off financial flows, and stiff the lenders. It is precisely this thinking, a throwback to the isolationism of the 1930s, that is at the root of the cycle of crisis that has infected modern globalization. Argentina has become the poster child for monetary nationalists -- those who believe that every country should have its own paper currency and not waste resources hoarding gold or hard-currency reserves. Monetary nationalists advocate capital controls to avoid entanglement with foreign creditors. But they cannot stop there. As Hayek emphasized in his 1937 lecture, "exchange control designed to prevent effectively the outflow of capital would really have to involve a complete control of foreign trade," since capital movements are triggered by changes in the terms of credit on exports and imports. Indeed, this is precisely the path that Argentina has followed since 2002, when the government abandoned its currency board, which tried to fix the peso to the dollar without the dollars necessary to do so. Since writing off $80 billion worth of its debts (75 percent in nominal terms), the Argentine government has been resorting to ever more intrusive means in order to prevent its citizens from protecting what remains of their savings and buying from or selling to foreigners. The country has gone straight back to the statist model of economic control that has failed Latin America repeatedly over generations. The government has steadily piled on more and more onerous capital and domestic price controls, export taxes, export bans, and limits on citizens' access to foreign currency. Annual inflation has nevertheless risen to about 20 percent, prompting the government to make ham-fisted efforts to manipulate the official price data. The economy has become ominously dependent on soybean production, which surged in the wake of price controls and export bans on cattle, taking the country back to the pre-globalization model of reliance on a single commodity export for hard-currency earnings. Despite many years of robust postcrisis economic recovery, GDP is still, in constant U.S. dollars, 26 percent below its peak in 1998, and the country's long-term economic future looks as fragile as ever. When currency crises hit, countries need dollars to pay off creditors. That is when their governments turn to the IMF, the most demonized institutional face of globalization. The IMF has been attacked by Stiglitz and others for violating "sovereign rights" in imposing conditions in return for loans. Yet the sort of compromises on policy autonomy that sovereign borrowers strike today with the IMF were in the past struck directly with foreign governments. And in the nineteenth century, these compromises cut far more deeply into national autonomy. Historically, throughout the Balkans and Latin America, sovereign borrowers subjected themselves to considerable foreign control, at times enduring what were considered to be egregious blows to independence. Following its recognition as a state in 1832, Greece spent the rest of the century under varying degrees of foreign creditor control; on the heels of a default on its 1832 obligations, the country had its entire finances placed under French administration. In order to return to the international markets after 1878, the country had to precommit specific revenues from customs and state monopolies to debt repayment. An 1887 loan gave its creditors the power to create a company that would supervise the revenues committed to repayment. After a disastrous war with Turkey over Crete in 1897, Greece was obliged to accept a control commission, comprised entirely of representatives of the major powers, that had absolute power over the sources of revenue necessary to fund its war debt. Greece's experience was mirrored in Bulgaria, Serbia, the Ottoman Empire, Egypt, and, of course, Argentina. There is, in short, no age of monetary sovereignty to return to. Countries have always borrowed, and when offered the choice between paying high interest rates to compensate for default risk (which was typical during the Renaissance) and paying lower interest rates in return for sacrificing some autonomy over their ability to default (which was typical in the nineteenth century), they have commonly chosen the latter. As for the notion that the IMF today possesses some extraordinary power over the exchange-rate policies of borrowing countries, this, too, is historically inaccurate. Adherence to the nineteenth-century gold standard, with the Bank of England at the helm of the system, severely restricted national monetary autonomy, yet governments voluntarily subjected themselves to it precisely because it meant cheaper capital and greater trade opportunities. THE MIGHTY DOLLAR? For a large, diversified economy like that of the United States, fluctuating exchange rates are the economic equivalent of a minor toothache. They require fillings from time to time -- in the form of corporate financial hedging and active global supply management -- but never any major surgery. There are two reasons for this. First, much of what Americans buy from abroad can, when import prices rise, quickly and cheaply be replaced by domestic production, and much of what they sell abroad can, when export prices fall, be diverted to the domestic market. Second, foreigners are happy to hold U.S. dollars as wealth. This is not so for smaller and less advanced economies. They depend on imports for growth, and often for sheer survival, yet cannot pay for them without dollars. What can they do? Reclaim the sovereignty they have allegedly lost to the IMF and international markets by replacing the unwanted national currency with dollars (as Ecuador and El Salvador did half a decade ago) or euros (as Bosnia, Kosovo, and Montenegro did) and thereby end currency crises for good. Ecuador is the shining example of the benefits of dollarization: a country in constant political turmoil has been a bastion of economic stability, with steady, robust economic growth and the lowest inflation rate in Latin America. No wonder its new leftist president, Rafael Correa, was obliged to ditch his de-dollarization campaign in order to win over the electorate. Contrast Ecuador with the Dominican Republic, which suffered a devastating currency crisis in 2004 -- a needless crisis, as 85 percent of its trade is conducted with the United States (a figure comparable to the percentage of a typical U.S. state's trade with other U.S. states). It is often argued that dollarization is only feasible for small countries. No doubt, smallness makes for a simpler transition. But even Brazil's economy is less than half the size of California's, and the U.S. Federal Reserve could accommodate the increased demand for dollars painlessly (and profitably) without in any way sacrificing its commitment to U.S. domestic price stability. An enlightened U.S. government would actually make it politically easier and less costly for more countries to adopt the dollar by rebating the seigniorage profits it earns when people hold more dollars. (To get dollars, dollarizing countries give the Federal Reserve interest-bearing assets, such as Treasury bonds, which the United States would otherwise have to pay interest on.) The International Monetary Stability Act of 2000 would have made such rebates official U.S. policy, but the legislation died in Congress, unsupported by a Clinton administration that feared it would look like a new foreign-aid program. Polanyi was wrong when he claimed that because people would never accept foreign fiat money, fiat money could never support foreign trade. The dollar has emerged as just such a global money. This phenomenon was actually foreseen by the brilliant German philosopher and sociologist Georg Simmel in 1900. He surmised: "Expanding economic relations eventually produce in the enlarged, and finally international, circle the same features that originally characterized only closed groups; economic and legal conditions overcome the spatial separation more and more, and they come to operate just as reliably, precisely and predictably over a great distance as they did previously in local communities. To the extent that this happens, the pledge, that is the intrinsic value of the money, can be reduced. ... Even though we are still far from having a close and reliable relationship within or between nations, the trend is undoubtedly in that direction." But the dollar's privileged status as today's global money is not heaven-bestowed. The dollar is ultimately just another money supported only by faith that others will willingly accept it in the future in return for the same sort of valuable things it bought in the past. This puts a great burden on the institutions of the U.S. government to validate that faith. And those institutions, unfortunately, are failing to shoulder that burden. Reckless U.S. fiscal policy is undermining the dollar's position even as the currency's role as a global money is expanding. Four decades ago, the renowned French economist Jacques Rueff, writing just a few years before the collapse of the Bretton Woods dollar-based gold-exchange standard, argued that the system "attains such a degree of absurdity that no human brain having the power to reason can defend it." The precariousness of the dollar's position today is similar. The United States can run a chronic balance-of-payments deficit and never feel the effects. Dollars sent abroad immediately come home in the form of loans, as dollars are of no use abroad. "If I had an agreement with my tailor that whatever money I pay him he returns to me the very same day as a loan," Rueff explained by way of analogy, "I would have no objection at all to ordering more suits from him." With the U.S. current account deficit running at an enormous 6.6 percent of GDP (about $2 billion a day must be imported to sustain it), the United States is in the fortunate position of the suit buyer with a Chinese tailor who instantaneously returns his payments in the form of loans -- generally, in the U.S. case, as purchases of U.S. Treasury bonds. The current account deficit is partially fueled by the budget deficit (a dollar more of the latter yields about 20-50 cents more of the former), which will soar in the next decade in the absence of reforms to curtail federal "entitlement" spending on medical care and retirement benefits for a longer-living population. The United States -- and, indeed, its Chinese tailor -- must therefore be concerned with the sustainability of what Rueff called an "absurdity." In the absence of long-term fiscal prudence, the United States risks undermining the faith foreigners have placed in its management of the dollar -- that is, their belief that the U.S. government can continue to sustain low inflation without having to resort to growth-crushing interest-rate hikes as a means of ensuring continued high capital inflows. PRIVATIZING MONEY It is widely assumed that the natural alternative to the dollar as a global currency is the euro. Faith in the euro's endurance, however, is still fragile -- undermined by the same fiscal concerns that afflict the dollar but with the added angst stemming from concerns about the temptations faced by Italy and others to return to monetary nationalism. But there is another alternative, the world's most enduring form of money: gold. It must be stressed that a well-managed fiat money system has considerable advantages over a commodity-based one, not least of which that it does not waste valuable resources. There is little to commend in digging up gold in South Africa just to bury it again in Fort Knox. The question is how long such a well-managed fiat system can endure in the United States. The historical record of national monies, going back over 2,500 years, is by and large awful. At the turn of the twentieth century -- the height of the gold standard -- Simmel commented, "Although money with no intrinsic value would be the best means of exchange in an ideal social order, until that point is reached the most satisfactory form of money may be that which is bound to a material substance." Today, with money no longer bound to any material substance, it is worth asking whether the world even approximates the "ideal social order" that could sustain a fiat dollar as the foundation of the global financial system. There is no way effectively to insure against the unwinding of global imbalances should China, with over a trillion dollars of reserves, and other countries with dollar-rich central banks come to fear the unbearable lightness of their holdings. So what about gold? A revived gold standard is out of the question. In the nineteenth century, governments spent less than ten percent of national income in a given year. Today, they routinely spend half or more, and so they would never subordinate spending to the stringent requirements of sustaining a commodity-based monetary system. But private gold banks already exist, allowing account holders to make international payments in the form of shares in actual gold bars. Although clearly a niche business at present, gold banking has grown dramatically in recent years, in tandem with the dollar's decline. A new gold-based international monetary system surely sounds far-fetched. But so, in 1900, did a monetary system without gold. Modern technology makes a revival of gold money, through private gold banks, possible even without government support. COMMON CURRENCIES Virtually every major argument recently leveled against globalization has been leveled against markets generally (and, in turn, debunked) for hundreds of years. But the argument against capital flows in a world with 150 fluctuating national fiat monies is fundamentally different. It is highly compelling -- so much so that even globalization's staunchest supporters treat capital flows as an exception, a matter to be intellectually quarantined until effective crisis inoculations can be developed. But the notion that capital flows are inherently destabilizing is logically and historically false. The lessons of gold-based globalization in the nineteenth century simply must be relearned. Just as the prodigious daily capital flows between New York and California, two of the world's 12 largest economies, are so uneventful that no one even notices them, capital flows between countries sharing a single currency, such as the dollar or the euro, attract not the slightest attention from even the most passionate antiglobalization activists. Countries whose currencies remain unwanted by foreigners will continue to experiment with crisis-prevention policies, imposing capital controls and building up war chests of dollar reserves. Few will repeat Argentina's misguided efforts to fix a dollar exchange rate without the dollars to do so. If these policies keep the IMF bored for a few more years, they will be for the good. But the world can do better. Since economic development outside the process of globalization is no longer possible, countries should abandon monetary nationalism. Governments should replace national currencies with the dollar or the euro or, in the case of Asia, collaborate to produce a new multinational currency over a comparably large and economically diversified area. Europeans used to say that being a country required having a national airline, a stock exchange, and a currency. Today, no European country is any worse off without them. Even grumpy Italy has benefited enormously from the lower interest rates and permanent end to lira speculation that accompanied its adoption of the euro. A future pan-Asian currency, managed according to the same principle of targeting low and stable inflation, would represent the most promising way for China to fully liberalize its financial and capital markets without fear of damaging renminbi speculation (the Chinese economy is only the size of California's and Florida's combined). Most of the world's smaller and poorer countries would clearly be best off unilaterally adopting the dollar or the euro, which would enable their safe and rapid integration into global financial markets. Latin American countries should dollarize; eastern European countries and Turkey, euroize. Broadly speaking, this prescription follows from relative trade flows, but there are exceptions; Argentina, for example, does more eurozone than U.S. trade, but Argentines think and save in dollars. Of course, dollarizing countries must give up independent monetary policy as a tool of government macroeconomic management. But since the Holy Grail of monetary policy is to get interest rates down to the lowest level consistent with low and stable inflation, an argument against dollarization on this ground is, for most of the world, frivolous. How many Latin American countries can cut interest rates below those in the United States? The average inflation-adjusted lending rate in Latin America is about 20 percent. One must therefore ask what possible boon to the national economy developing-country central banks can hope to achieve from the ability to guide nominal local rates up and down on a discretionary basis. It is like choosing a Hyundai with manual transmission over a Lexus with automatic: the former gives the driver more control but at the cost of inferior performance under any condition. As for the United States, it needs to perpetuate the sound money policies of former Federal Reserve Chairs Paul Volcker and Alan Greenspan and return to long-term fiscal discipline. This is the only sure way to keep the United States' foreign tailors, with their massive and growing holdings of dollar debt, feeling wealthy and secure. It is the market that made the dollar into global money -- and what the market giveth, the market can taketh away. If the tailors balk and the dollar fails, the market may privatize money on its own. Home | Subscribe | Current Issue www.foreignaffairs.org is copyright 2002--2006 by the Council on Foreign Relations. All rights reserved. -- ----------------- R. A. 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Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 20:49:21 -0400 Subject: [tt] Algorithms better than humans at face recognition Message-ID: http://www.technologyreview.com/Infotech/18796/ Technology Review - Published by MIT Wednesday, May 30, 2007 Better Face-Recognition Software Computers outperform humans at recognizing faces in recent tests. By Mark Williams For scientists and engineers involved with face-recognition technology,the recently released results of the Face Recognition Grand Challenge--more fully, the Face Recognition Vendor Test (FRVT) 2006 and the Iris Challenge Evaluation (ICE) 2006--have been a quiet triumph. Sponsored by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the match up of face-recognition algorithms showed that machine recognition of human individuals has improved tenfold since 2002 and a hundredfold since 1995. Indeed, the best face-recognition algorithms now perform more accurately than most humans can manage. Overall, facial-recognition technology is advancing rapidly. Jonathon Phillips, program manager for the NIST tests and lead author of the agency's report, says that the intended goal of the Face Recognition Grand Challenge was always an order-of-magnitude improvement in recognition performance over the results from 2002. Phillips believes that the necessary decrease in error rate to achieve that goal was due in large measure to the development of high-resolution still-images and 3-D face-recognition algorithms. "For the FRVT 2006 and the ICE 2006, sets of high-resolution face images, 3-D face scans, and iris images were collected of the same people," Phillips says. "The FRVT 2006 for the first time measured the performance of six 3-D algorithms on a set of 3-D face scans. The ICE 2006 measured the performance of ten algorithms on a set of iris images. 3-D face recognition has come into its own in the last few years because 3-D sensors for face recognition have become available only recently. What 3-D face recognition contributes is that it directly captures information about the shapes of faces." Among other advantages, 3-D facial recognition identifies individuals by exploiting distinctive features of a human face's surface--for instance, the curves of the eye sockets, nose, and chin, which are where tissue and bone are most apparent and which don't change over time. Furthermore, Phillips says, "changes in illumination have adversely affected face-recognition performance from still images. But the shape of a face isn't affected by changes in illumination." Hence, 3-D face recognition might even be used in near-dark conditions. According to Ralph Gross, a researcher at the Carnegie Mellon Robotics Institute, in Pittsburgh, 3-D facial recognition can also recognize subjects at different view angles up to 90 degrees--in other words, faces in profile. "Face recognition has been getting pretty good at full frontal faces and 20 degrees off, but as soon as you go towards profile, there've been problems." Gross says that the explanation for face-recognition software's difficulties with profiles may be no more complicated than the fact that no one was focusing on the problem. The main applications of face recognition have been in contexts like ID cards and face scanners, for which the aim has been recognition of the full frontal faces of cooperative subjects under controlled lighting. High-resolution still images have been another factor in the improvement of face-recognition technology, in part because highly detailed skin-texture analysis has also become possible. With such analysis, any patch of skin--called a skin print--can be captured as an image, then broken up into smaller blocks that algorithms turn into mathematical, measurable spaces in which lines, pores, and the actual skin texture are recorded. "It can identify differences between identical twins, which isn't yet possible using facial-recognition software alone," Gross explains. "By combining facial recognition with surface-texture analysis, accurate identification can increase by 20 to 25 percent." What about the FRVT report's claim that some face-recognition algorithms equal or exceed humans' recognition capabilities? Phillips explains: "Humans are very good at recognizing faces of familiar people. However, they aren't so good at recognizing unfamiliar people." Since many proposed face-recognition systems would complement or replace humans, the FRVT's comparative tests of the face-recognition capabilities of humans and software--the first such testing--were important for measuring the potential effectiveness of applications. Phillips says that at low false accept rates (a false accept rate is the measure of the likelihood that a biometric security system will incorrectly accept an access attempt by an unauthorized individual), six out of seven automatic face-recognition algorithms were comparable to or better than human recognition. These were algorithms from Neven Vision, Viisage, Cognitec, Identix, Samsung Advanced Institute for Technology, and Tsinghua University. Unfortunately, Phillips adds, "because the majority of FRVT 2006 participants haven't disclosed the details of their methods, it's not possible yet to assess what's distinctive about these algorithms." How does the commercial payoff for face recognition look? Quite promising, because dozens of companies aim to cash in on face recognition's potential as a biometric for credentialing and verification purposes. For the FRVT, venerable corporations like Toshiba and Samsung competed alongside companies like Neven Vision--just acquired by Google--and Viisage and Identix (which have just merged into L1 Identity Solutions), as well as alongside researchers from universities as diverse as Beijing, Cambridge, and Carnegie Mellon. What applications does a company like Google foresee for the technology developed by its recent acquisition, Neven Vision? According to a Google PR person, "We believe it offers promising integration possibilities with Google's services, such as Picasa and Picasa Web Albums, particularly in terms of helping users organize and search their own photos." At Carnegie Mellon, Ralph Gross says that among other efforts, he and his colleagues have been "involved with local DMVs in order to scan images for driver's licenses. I've gotten reports from the state level to say that, using face-recognition technology, they caught quite a number of people who applied for licenses in either different states or in the same state under a different name because their previous license got suspended." It's a growing trend. States using such technology include Massachusetts, Illinois, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Colorado, North and Southern Carolina, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Arkansas, and Mississippi. Nevertheless, Gross stresses, applying face-recognition technology to ID photos is a long way from having the capability that would let law enforcement search a city's webcam networks for specific individuals. "With driver's license photos, you have a controlled background, an operator telling you exactly how to position your face; the images are collected under comparable conditions. It's much more restricted than the random-face-in-the-crowd problem, where you're sticking a camera on a building." Still, Gross says, "you can already see the path building." Until recently, the video-surveillance industry still mostly relied on analog cameras, requiring cable to be set up for long distances to connect those cameras to monitoring equipment. Now, "the industry is switching to IP-based cameras, with which you can pretty easily tap into already existing Ethernet networks," Gross says. "So you have wireless cameras and cameras using POE [Power over Ethernet technology allows IP telephones, wireless LAN Access Points, and other appliances to receive power as well as data over existing LAN cabling] where you don't need a separate power plug. You can buy commercial solutions that are essentially a TiVo for these cameras, with motion sensors built in so they only record when there's motion happening. With digital storage, you can keep the data indefinitely and enhance it in ways that you can't with analog images. So all these things are coming together." In principle, therefore, as face-recognition software continues its rapid advance, it will likely be possible to search for specific faces across a network of webcams. Accordingly, Gross's recent work at Carnegie Mellon, in conjunction with colleagues at the Data Privacy Lab there, has been the development of algorithms to protect individuals' privacy while under video surveillance. The usual methods that thwart human recognition of an individual's features on video--for example, those pixelated fields sometimes covering faces and body parts on reality-TV shows--already won't fool much face-recognition software. Completely blacking out each face in a video clip would do the job, but this would be of limited use if law-enforcement agencies wanted to follow up evidence of suspicious behavior once they had a court warrant. The function of the privacy-preserving algorithms that Gross is helping to create, he explains, is to automatically take the average values of individuals' faces and, from those, synthesize new facial images, then superimpose those new images over the originals. "It may seem like the opposite technology," Gross says, "but actually, it's just the other side of face recognition." 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Generally, the registry has a family name on it (just one -- making it difficult for women to keep their maiden names, but that's not the point here) and a head of household. Then underneath that are the members of the household -- wife and kids. Normally, kids stay on their parents' registry until they marry or the parents die. When you marry, you move off your parents' registry and start your own. You do your registration at the city office, but it's a national registry run by the Justice Department. In the normal progress of things, of course, the last entry for each child is a notation that they moved off of this registry and onto another one. But if a child dies, then a notation is made of that fact. An article in yesterday's Daily Yomiuri http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/features/culture/20070530TDY02009.htm says that they are still in the process of digitizing the registry, and that some deceased children are being "deleted" in the process, simply to keep down the amount of data input work (which undoubtedly has to be done by hand). While it certainly makes sense to prioritize the digitization of currently-active families, as opposed to the historical records of deceased grandparents whose registers consist of no one alive, this choice has the effect of creating an apparently complete registry of an active family that portrays an inaccurate picture of the family history. > From the article: According to the [Justice] ministry, the names of family members who died before the digitization have been included on the original hard copy of the family registry as one who has been "removed." But the names, the ministry said, have been stricken from the data files. 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While it seems likely that eventually they will get around to digitizing historical records, this particular gap in the data seems unlikely to be fixed -- or even fixABLE, without a second by-hand check of every registry comparing the original hard copy with the digitized version. There are gaps in my family history where e.g. the courthouse holding birth certificates burned down. But at least we *know* that there are gaps. Is this a bigger loss than, oh, say, the burning of the library at Alexandria, or the one at Bukhara (~650 and again 1920), or the burning of Mayan texts by the Spanish? Nah. But I mourn the loss of every bit(!) of our collective history. --Rod ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. 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I've been asked what I thought about the privacy implications of this -- some people seem to be pretty upset. I started noticing this feature on various Google Map searches around here in L.A. some time ago. It's certainly handy for getting a feel for what an unfamiliar place looks like before heading on over. Given the static nature of the images, which currently are unlikely to be updated very frequently, I do not see a big privacy risk at the moment. Real estate companies are constantly snapping photos of houses in many areas for their databases -- though obviously these are not public in the way Google Maps now is. In my neck of L.A., I've seen film camera trucks bristling with lenses plowing up and down the streets shooting movie backgrounds. In general, such photography from a public point (street, sidewalk, etc.) is legal -- though there are exceptions that can come into play for purposeful harassment and in other special cases. However, it is possible to imagine possible situations where this feature of Google Maps could cause problems, and even potential risks for Google, depending on how Google chooses to manage the service. So long as the images being used by Google Maps are from authenticated sources and are relatively infrequently updated, the privacy risks stay low for most locales. This isn't to say that various government agencies won't go berserk over particular images in any case -- given the ease with which you can get hassled by police these days for taking a photo of the local freeway overpass -- but by and large that won't happen for shots of most locations, to be sure. However if Google decided to allow users to submit their own more frequently updated photos of locations, either for the official Google Maps database or through public "mashups" that link such photos to the mapping database, the situation becomes more problematic. Not only could much more frequently updated photos cross the line into real privacy violations, but the risk of photoshopped photos being submitted or used that show faked imagery would seem a real possibility. You can use your own imagination about the range of ways in which such fakes could be manipulated to attract attention, harass, or mislead. Now, I have absolutely no indication that Google has any intention of permitting such "self-submitted" location photos scenarios. In fact, Google does have a link with which you can report "inappropriate" photos for possible removal, though if photos were faked, figuring out what was really inappropriate in different situations could get rather complex. In any case, all I'm saying here is that so long as Google Maps is using authentic photos on a infrequent update interval, the privacy risks remain relatively low in the vast majority of cases. A bigger risk to the service might loom in the future though. I can't count the number of times I've gotten queries from people that amount to: "My neighbor has a camera pointed at my house -- who can I report him to? I feel like my children are at risk," etc. In almost all of these cases, my response is that so long as someone is taking photos from public spaces or their own property, and isn't making a special effort to see things they couldn't otherwise normally see, such photography or video is usually permitted. That answer seems to infuriate many people. This seems to suggest -- given the post-9/11 mentality -- that it is not impossible to imagine laws that could be written specifically to restrict the use of such street level photos, ostensibly on personal security and privacy grounds. If Google Maps were painted as a major privacy problem -- which again is an opinion I don't subscribe to, but that some others already do -- this could act as a catalyst toward the enactment of such legislation. This would be very unfortunate in the absence of genuine, major privacy concerns of a sort that do not currently exist in the Google Maps context, and that might not ever exist there if Google and its competitors use due care. I only bring up this sort of possibility as did the "Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come" -- not as something that Will Be, but as something that Might Be -- a cautionary thought experiment, as it were. So, bottom line -- for now the Google Maps street level photos provide a useful service and should not raise significant privacy concerns, except for a tiny percentage of photos that can be easily expunged. Whether this benign situation will remain the case depends upon Google's decisions regarding the service moving forward. 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