CP Sighting: Vista security spec 'longest suicide note in history'

Tyler Durden camera_lumina at hotmail.com
Tue Jan 9 06:24:40 PST 2007

Well, Citigroup uses something called a 'Hobbling Terminal', which is 
basically the office suite in a sandbox.

But remember that a Java machine is far more than a virtual terminal, and I 
doubt many users of the future would even understand the difference between 
a machine as we know it and a Java machine. And in many places a Java 
machine will be far cheaper than a quad-core windows box (where 75% of the 
processing is used for Microsoft anyway).

Why does one ever need to leave the sandbox? Basically to run games. But in 
the US PC-only games seem to be fewer and far-between these days, as the big 
game consoles take over. In other words, the computer as we know it will be 
a Java machine (and likely not have windows inside it), and the console will 
absorb the games (and Windows) and maybe play DVDs too. And actually, I 
suspect this is exactly the future Gates envisioned right before he retired!


>From: sunder <sunder at sunder.net>
>To: "Roy M. Silvernail" <roy at rant-central.com>
>CC: Tyler Durden <camera_lumina at hotmail.com>, cypherpunks at jfet.org
>Subject: Re: CP Sighting: Vista security spec 'longest suicide note in   
>Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:09:17 -0500
>No, actually, it doesn't.  Sun tried this with java terminals and the
>like.  Not too many bought into them.  WebTV tried this, not too many
>bought into it.  (Yes, I know the beast of redmond bought them.)   Many
>other companies got behind the various thin clients, it didn't take off.
>Odds are it won't as it's the same rehashed idea.  In the end people
>vote with their wallets, and very very few showed any interest in just
>another terminal.
>Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
> > What OS? Think X terminals, with HTTP substituting for the X protocol.
> > It's an ideal consumer medium, too.  All that's available is what the
> > servers offer, with no chance for local wizard-wannabees to install
> > software that doesn't follow the rules.  Hmm... sounds like a set-top
> > box, doesn't it?
> >

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