[Clips] UK Government to force handover of encryption keys

Sarad AV jtrjtrjtr2001 at yahoo.com
Fri May 19 19:30:35 PDT 2006


Yes, deniable encryption is one way to go about since
it cannot be proved that the key surrendered is not
the real key. This however is not useful when one is
in a torture cell where they try to break into the
mind :-).

Sarad.

--- Tyler Durden <camera_lumina at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Let us not forget all of the methods of "deniable
> encryption" discussed a 
> few years back. If the "wrong" key is entered, the
> returned "de-encrypted" 
> file will look -kinda- bad but not actually be the
> original plaintext.
> 
> This seems all the easier with TOR-stored data.
> 
> Fortunately, it would appear that such a law should
> be bound to force 
> development of deniable encryption tools.
> 
> -TD
> 
> 
> >From: Sarad AV <jtrjtrjtr2001 at yahoo.com>
> >To: cypherpunks at jfet.org
> >Subject: Re: [Clips] UK Government to force
> handover of encryption keys
> >Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:03:17 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >This clearly doesnt work. All they will manage to
> do
> >is harass citizens.
> >
> >Sarad.
> >
> >
> >--- "R.A. Hettinga" <rah at shipwright.com> wrote:
> >
> > >   "It is, as ever, almost impossible to prove
> > > 'beyond a reasonable doubt'
> > >   that some random-looking data is in fact
> > > ciphertext, and then prove that
> > >   the accused actually has the key for it, and
> that
> > > he has refused a proper
> > >   order to divulge it," pointed out encryption
> > > expert Peter Fairbrother on
> > >   ukcrypto, a public email discussion list.
> > >
> > >   Clayton backed up this point. "The police can
> say
> > > 'We think he's a
> > >   terrorist' or 'We think he's trading in kiddie
> > > porn', and the suspect can
> > >   say, 'No, they're love letters, sorry, I've
> lost
> > > the key'. How much
> > >   evidence do you need [to convict]? If you
> can't
> > > decrypt [the data], then by
> > >   definition you don't know what it is," said
> > > Clayton.
>

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