[dave at farber.net: [IP] Internet phone wiretapping ("Psst! The FBI is Having Trouble on the Line", Aug. 15)]

Tyler Durden camera_lumina at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 7 10:55:02 PDT 2005


Like I said:

We need a WiFi VoIP over Tor app pronto! Let 'em CALEA -that-. Only then 
will the ghost of Tim May rest in piece.

Then again, the FBI probably loves hanging out in Starbucks anyway...

-TD


>From: Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org>
>To: cypherpunks at jfet.org
>Subject: [dave at farber.net: [IP] Internet phone wiretapping ("Psst! The  FBI 
>is Having Trouble on the Line", Aug. 15)]
>Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:58:08 +0200
>
>----- Forwarded message from David Farber <dave at farber.net> -----
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>From: David Farber <dave at farber.net>
>Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:48:13 -0400
>To: Ip Ip <ip at v2.listbox.com>
>Subject: [IP] Internet phone wiretapping ("Psst! The FBI is Having Trouble 
>on
>the Line", Aug. 15)
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>Reply-To: dave at farber.net
>
>
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>From: Seth David Schoen <schoen at eff.org>
>Date: September 5, 2005 6:10:02 PM EDT
>To: David Farber <dave at farber.net>
>Cc: Donna Wentworth <donna at eff.org>, eff-priv at eff.org
>Subject: Re: [E-PRV] Internet phone wiretapping ("Psst! The FBI is
>Having Trouble on the Line", Aug. 15)
>
>
>David Farber writes:
>
>
> >Can I get a copy for IP
> >
>
>The original article is at
>
>http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1090908,00.html
>(subscription required)
>
>Here's the letter we sent:
>
>     Your account of FBI efforts to embed wiretapping into the design of
>     new Internet communication technologies ("Psst! The FBI is Having
>     Trouble on the Line," Notebook, August 15) is in error.
>
>     You claim that police "can't tap into [Internet] conversations or
>     identify the location of callers, even with court orders."
>
>     That is false. Internet service providers and VoIP companies have
>     consistently responded to such orders and turned over information
>     in their possession. There is no evidence that law enforcement is
>     having any trouble obtaining compliance.
>
>     But more disturbingly, you omit entirely any reference to the
>     grave threat these FBI initiatives pose to the personal privacy
>     and security of innocent Americans. The technologies currently
>     used to create wiretap-friendly computer networks make the people
>     on those networks more pregnable to attackers who want to steal
>     their data or personal information. And at a time when many of our
>     most fundamental consititutional rights are being stripped away in
>     the name of fighting terrorism, you implicitly endorse opening yet
>     another channel for potential government abuse.
>
>     The legislative history of the Communications Assistance for Law
>     Enforcement Act (CALEA) shows that Congress recognized the danger
>     of giving law enforcement this kind of surveillance power "in the
>     face of increasingly powerful and personally revealing
>technologies"
>     (H.R. Rep. No. 103-827, 1994 U.S.C.C.A.N. 3489, 3493 [1994] [House
>     Report]). The law explicitly exempts so-called information
>services;
>     law enforcement repeatedly assured civil libertarians that the
>     Internet would be excluded. Yet the FBI and FCC have now betrayed
>     that promise and stepped beyond the law, demanding that Internet
>     software be redesigned to facilitate eavesdropping. In the coming
>     months, we expect the federal courts to rein in these dangerously
>     expansive legal intepretations.
>
>--
>Seth Schoen
>Staff Technologist                                schoen at eff.org
>Electronic Frontier Foundation                    http://www.eff.org/
>454 Shotwell Street, San Francisco, CA  94110     1 415 436 9333 x107
>
>
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