Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

Steve Thompson steve49152 at yahoo.ca
Thu Jan 27 17:43:17 PST 2005


 --- "Trei, Peter" <ptrei at rsasecurity.com> wrote: 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-cypherpunks at minder.net
> > [mailto:owner-cypherpunks at minder.net]On Behalf Of Steve Thompson
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:13 PM
> > To: cypherpunks at al-qaeda.net
> > Subject: RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder
> > 
> > 
> >  --- Tyler Durden <camera_lumina at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> > [airport security]
> > > More indications of an emerging 'Brazil' scenario, as opposed to a 
> > > hyper-intelligent super-fascist state.
> > 
> > As if.
> > 
> > There already is a kind of intelligent super-fascist state in place
> > thoughout much of society.  My bugbears of the moment are the 
> > police and
> > courts, so you get my take on how they are organised so as to be
> > 'intelligent' without seeming so -- which further enables a 
> > whole lot of
> > fraud to masqerade as process and incompetence.  The 
> > super-fascist part
> > comes about because the system avoids public accountability while also
> > somehow evading any sort of reasonable standard of performance.
> > 
> > What's the error rate, that is the false arrest, prosecution, and/or
> > conviction rate of a Western countries' judiciary and police 
> > divitions? 
> > If it's even ten percent, and it's probably much higher, then 
> > there is no
> > reason to respect the operation and perpetuation of the system.  
> 
> One chilling data point. Remember a few years ago the (pro death
> penalty) governor of Illinois suspended all the death sentences in 
> has state? The reason being was that with the introduction of DNA
> testing, 1/3 of the people on death row were found to be innocent.
> 
> I don't know how many other innocents the state planned to murder, 
> but presumably there were some cases where DNA evidence was not
> available.
> 
> If, in a capital case, where the money to pay public defenders
> is usually maximally available, and the appeals process, checks,
> and cross-checks are the more thorough than in any non-capital
> prosecution, you STILL get at least a 33% error rate, then what
> is the wrongfull conviction rate in non-capital cases, where there
> are far fewer appeals, and public defenders are paid a pittance?
> 
> Peter Trei
>  

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