[osint] Women must remove veils in court

[R.A. Hettinga]

--- begin forwarded text


To: "Bruce Tefft" <btefft at community-research.com>
Thread-Index: AcT8kVM6uKgN+znER4yfU7/dhANxFQADXdMw
From: "Bruce Tefft" <btefft at community-research.com>
Mailing-List: list osint at yahoogroups.com; contact osint-owner at yahoogroups.com
Delivered-To: mailing list osint at yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:16:05 -0500
Subject: [osint] Women must remove veils in court
Reply-To: osint at yahoogroups.com






Women must remove veils in court
>From correspondents in Auckland
January 17, 2005




A MUSLIM woman who said she would rather die than show her face in public
must remove her veil while giving evidence in a trial, a New Zealand court
ruled today.

The Auckland District Court ruled that Fouzya Salim, a witness in a fraud
case, and another Muslim woman must show their faces to the judge, lawyers
and female court staff but can be concealed from public view, Radio New
Zealand reported.

The women had been fighting since last year a defence lawyer's application
to have their veils lifted in court so their demeanour could be assessed.

The Afghanistan-born Ms Salim, who has lived in New Zealand for 10 years,
has never left her house without wearing a traditional burqa, which covers
the entire body.

Today the court ruled that while it could be a fair trial even if the women
wore burqas, the defendant had a legitimate expectation of trial by the
normal process.

The decision said screens and other measures would be used in court to
protect the women from further public view.

The ruling only applied to the case in question.

Last October Ms Salim told the court: "I don't want to show my face in
public ... I would rather kill myself than uncover my face and sit here. If
I uncover my face then I would be in trouble with God."

Defence lawyer Colin Amery said he was "reasonably happy" with the decision,
NZPA reported.

"It's a partial victory for the New Zealand way of doing things and our
justice system," he said.

AAP





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~-->
DonorsChoose. A simple way to provide underprivileged children resources
often lacking in public schools. Fund a student project in NYC/NC today!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/EHLuJD/.WnJAA/cUmLAA/TySplB/TM
--------------------------------------------------------------------~->

--------------------------
Want to discuss this topic?  Head on over to our discussion list,
discuss-osint at yahoogroups.com.
--------------------------
Brooks Isoldi, editor
bisoldi at intellnet.org

http://www.intellnet.org

  Post message: osint at yahoogroups.com
  Subscribe:    osint-subscribe at yahoogroups.com
  Unsubscribe:  osint-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com


*** FAIR USE NOTICE. This message contains copyrighted material whose use
has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. OSINT, as a
part of The Intelligence Network, is making it available without profit to
OSINT YahooGroups members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving
the included information in their efforts to advance the understanding of
intelligence and law enforcement organizations, their activities, methods,
techniques, human rights, civil liberties, social justice and other
intelligence related issues, for non-profit research and educational
purposes only. We believe that this constitutes a 'fair use' of the
copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the U.S. Copyright
Law. If you wish to use this copyrighted material for purposes of your own
that go beyond 'fair use,' you must obtain permission from the copyright
owner.
For more information go to:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/osint/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    osint-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


--- end forwarded text


-- 
-----------------
R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah at ibuc.com>
The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,
[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'