Tasers for Cops Not You
Major Variola (ret)
mv at cdc.gov
Wed Jan 12 19:26:14 PST 2005
At 01:20 PM 1/8/05 -0800, John Young wrote:
>However, Taser claims the civilian version is effective
>only to 15 feet while the LE version will explose a heart
>at 20 feet. And, Taser says "accidental deaths caused
>by the shock would have happened to those sick persons
>Well, yes, homicidal cops say the perps were begging for it,
>learning such talk from the president and up to the one who
>has fun with joy toy tsunamis.
John: A taser is > 50 KV and microamps. Not fun but it
doesn't cause fibrillation. (Incoherent cardiac muscle
contraction -> no pulse.) I now work for a company that
makes defibrillators. It takes a few 10s of Joules through
the heart to fibrillate, typically 100-200 J for an adult,
during a certain critical window during the sinus rhythm.
Our gizmos discharge ~200 uF at up to 2 KV to defibrillate
a fibrillating heart, which will also fibrillate if administered to a
at the wrong time, as I said. That's up to 40 amps. (Through the pads
a chest is 20-200 ohms, typically 50.) Without
a defibrillator the person is dead, CPR or not.
That's the science. As far as pigs wanting slaves/peasants/citizens
to be unarmed, well, agree. As far as choke holds on negroes,
excessive force on cocaine-stimulated citizens, etc goes, I have
nothing to bear on this. As far as banning lethal and nonlethal
weapons for use by all but state minions, we agree.
When tasers, mace, body armor, .50 cal or lesser rifles are outlawed,
well, you know
the rest. (Of course mace is best applied with q-tips to the eyes of
sitting protesters. And the mercenaries in Iraq do fine with
Though heavens fall, let justice be done.
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