Exactly what part...
camera_lumina at hotmail.com
Wed Dec 21 07:19:09 PST 2005
Holy Shit! Did you forward this Hettinga? It actually makes sense and is
The fact that Bush's wiretapping might be technically "illegal" is of only
Remember that some of our bandits have probably been getting this level of
info through Echelon: Remember, it's not illegal for the Brits to spy on US
citizens. Receiving such info from our Limey bandits pals is probably only
marginally illegal at best.
The only thing "new" here is that there are new subgroups of bandits with
the info now obtained through conventional channels, probably more local,
and who aren't too afraid to reveal that they have it. Thus look for arrests
of various troublemakers and big-mouths whereas NSA probably woud have been
mum unless absolutely necessary, and even though only through a careful
process that didn't indicate how they got the info (thus precluding general
Of course, this does have some practical implications. Time to update the
>Bleating about laws, whether we have "a nation of laws" or not, doesn't
>work too much when there's an egregious surplus of same. Under those
>circumstances, no matter who's in charge, the law fucks you in the ass.
>Everything is illegal, and thus nothing is.
>As far as voting goes, no matter who you vote for, the government gets
>elected, as the old libertarian saw goes.
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