War ain't beanbag....What the Fuck?

[Justin]

On 2004-06-13T17:50:43-0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
> 
> RAH wrote...
> 
> >>I'd like to hear how children who werent old enough to pronounce the
> >>colour were 'reds' who were rightly tortured (apparently) in your
> >>view, as well as the many women raped and tortured at the hands of
> >>SOA graduates.
> 
> >Funny how "liberals" always do the debits and not the credits in
> >these grotesque calculations. Shall we count the
> >several-orders-of-magnitude number of starved (*and* butchered)
> >children in various Marxist "paradises" around the world, too? I
> >thought not. It wouldn't be "fair".
> 
> Holy shit, Hettinga. Most of the time you make some sense. This ain't one 
> of 'em. So, in other words, if Salvador Allende is democractically elected 
> in a foreign country, then it's OK for the US to send agents and train 
> torturers and then assasinate their leader? This is a complete nonsequitur 

He's pro-free-market, not pro-democracy.  What Mr. Free Market doesn't
want to state outright is that a pure free market economy is anarchy,
because every law will impact the way businesses do business.

> logically. The fact that "The Marxists would have killed even more" is 
> irrelevant. As someone who seems to espouse a more or less deterministic 
> viewpoint vis economics and crypto-anarchy, you yourself should support a 
> notion of letting them figure things out on their own.

A majority screwing up a country is not "letting them figure things out on
their own".  Maybe we should have let the Japanese figure things out by
themselves once they surrendered?  Germany?  No funds to rebuild France.
Oh, I want to live in *that* world, where we may not have won the cold
war.

> More than this, this is the exact thinking that has caused us all sorts of 
> problem. The best (and most obvious) examples are Vietnam and China. Both 
> of these countries repeatedly kicked our ass in several theaters and then 
> went through a brief socliaist period. In both cases, socialism is 
> practically gone. Had we instead been smart with Mao and China (who we sent 

I haven't lived in China, but my impression of the country leads me to
believe otherwise.  If it's not *quite* socialist, it's fascist.

> In the end, China ended up being a major capitalist country, and our 

As above, this doesn't seem right.  Hong Kong might be a major capitalist
center of operations, but Hong Kong is not really China, socioeconomically
speaking.

> involvement against the Chicoms only slowed this process down. We're making 
> a similar mistake in Iraq, and we New Yorkers will probably pay for it 
> again (if Tyler Durden stops posting after WTC#2 comes tumbling down, 
> you'll know what happened. I'll try to post one more time from under the 
> rubble if I can sniff a WiFi hotspot.)

God damned idiots, both the designers/builders and anyone who would work
in it without taking precautions.  Anyone in WTC2 who cares about living
should buy a dozen real climbing ropes or go learn to skydive and then how
to BASE jump.  And pray 5 times a day that the plane crashes into some
*other* floor.

I'd imagine it'd be a bit tricky to get a descender past the knots in a
chain of ropes, and air currents around buildings make a safe landing
improbable for any but the most experienced BASE jumpers.

Accordingly, there was some whining in Oct '01 on dropzone.com about how
morons would jump with an "executive parachute" whenever they smell burnt
toast, but I think that's a great way to clean the pool.  Maybe some
clever person could change the WTC2 mains frequency to 70 or 80 herz to
facilitate that (as well as overheating Tyler's computer to let him know
that the End is near).


ciel bleu!

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