Why there is no anonymous e-cash
Thomas Shaddack
shaddack at ns.arachne.cz
Fri Jul 23 23:01:11 PDT 2004
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, James A. Donald wrote:
> As I predicted, transactions are increasingly going on line.
>
> And as Hettinga predicted, the more anonymous and irreversible the
> transaction service, the cheaper and more convenient its services.
> All happening as predicted.
>
> So why don't we have anonymous chaumian cash by now?
For anonymous cash systems outside of the government control, we first
need generic unofficial cash systems.
I just stumbled over two different alternative "cash" systems already in
use, and there are hundreds more:
http://www.calgarydollars.ca/faq.html
http://www.ithacahours.com/
There are many other kinds of currencies; some of them are even
exchangeable for "real money", eg. casino chips.
As we can see from the aforementioned examples, the requirement for
convertibility between the alternative currencies and the "mainstream"
ones is not absolute.
My guess is that the time for Chaumian cash didn't come yet; but the signs
are already on the sky.
My suggested course of action is to not worry about when it happens, and
spend the time working on implementations. It's only matter of time when
the already existing systems will feel the need to go electronics; they
are usually local, so the physicality disadvantage of tangible material
"certificates" like pieces of paper or metal isn't too annoying, but it is
a limitation neverthless. That is possibly the best starting point; a set
of proof-of-concept implementations is probably necessary for further
expansion. This will also seed the market, and get the people used to the
technology - and, if it turns out useful for them, demanding it elsewhere,
further driving its expansion.
> Because, the more anonymous and irreversible its services, the more
> fraudsters use it to convert other people's bank accounts, obtained
> by phishing, into usable money.
I suppose the countermeasures against this exist. (That the banks
habitually don't deploy them is another thing.)
> Why don't we have anonymous e-cash? - because IE and outlook express
> are full of massive security holes, and because people are idiots.
> Observe Tim May, who mistook e-gold phishing spam mail for the real
> thing. Well, not so much that people are idiots, but that we still
> have not got a satisfactory security model that adequately
> accommodates human factors.
Why aren't we working on it already then?
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