Email tapping by ISPs, forwarder addresses, and crypto proxies

J.A. Terranson measl at mfn.org
Wed Jul 21 20:12:38 PDT 2004


On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:

> At 10:09 AM 7/21/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
> >Variola wrote...
> >
> >Dark fiber.
> >
> >"Dark Fiber" ain't a talisman you merely wave at data to get it to
> magically
> >move to where you want it to.You've got to LIGHT that fiber, and to
> light
> >that fiber you need LOTS and LOTS of power-hungry, space-occupying
> >equipment. In other words, you'd need to duplicate a significant
> fraction of
> >the current public transport network.
>
> With all due respect, you think Ft. Meade uses the same COTS crap
> as you are forced to deal with?  Bwah hah hah.

Sorry Major, I'm gonna have to call you on that one.  Yes, they are
lighting that fiber on COTS.  Likely on Nortel gear, which I can tell you
from personal experience requires an incredible amount of power, cooling,
and rackspace.

> Gilmore et al used a bunch of old Sun Chassis for his & Kocher's
> DEScracker.  You think this is somehow more than 100 watts, in a
> diplo suitcase, nowadays?

Totally different animal.  We are talking about lighting single mode fiber
and doing so for long distances: likely to standard 60-per-hop rule.  You
can't send light out that kind of distances without BIG power inputs:
lasers are not very efficient.

> Just curious as to the depth of navite in the field....

As we are curious of yours.

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