yes, they look for stego, as a "Hacker Tool"
Thomas Shaddack
shaddack at ns.arachne.cz
Fri Aug 13 20:30:27 PDT 2004
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
> Even if you map a particular hash into one of a million known-benign
> values, which takes work, there are multiple orthagonal hash algorithms
> included on the NIST CD. (Eg good luck finding values that collide in
> MD5 & SHA-1 & SHA-256 simultaneously!)
Argh. You misunderstood me. I don't want to find hash collisions, to
create a false known hash - that is just too difficult. I want to make
every file in the machine recognized as "unidentifiable".
> >> These hash-CDROMs are also useful for finding unlicensed software and
> >> music....
> >
> >Another reason for making your data unique.
>
> In that case, yes, although ultimately the RIAA could hire offshore
> Indians to listen to your stego'd/uniquified Madonna song and identify
> it. (Of course, they don't know if you own the vinyl for it... and
> software can be sold by the original purchaser, too, right?)
The adversary has acoustic fingerprinting software. Even cheaper than
the Indians.
The signature busting of MP3s has a disadvantage, though: makes their
sharing back to the P2P pool more difficult, and a lot of programs relying
on their hash (emule, Kazaa(?),...) instead of their file name will
consider them a different file, which causes problems with multisource
download (though the problem won't be on your side).
> Yes something like a Tomlinson (_Big Breach_) sleight of hand with a
> Psion card is a good idea, as is the microwave oven trash can next to
> your machine :-)
Or a small propane torch or a lighter (the kind that makes the hissing
blue high-temperature flame), or even a sticker with magnesium shavings to
burn through the chip when lit.
> >... and there still is a segment of consumers who think that
> >when it is free, it's worthless)
>
> And a larger segment which will stick any CD they get in the mail into
> their bootable drive.. LOL
Didn't realize this. Seems I still overestimate Them the People.
> Sorta like the National Forests... resource of many uses... may as well
> include a mixmaster payload in that worm :-) which also provides some
> other overt free benefit like antivirus or anti-helmetic or defrag or
> game or bayesian spamfilter or chat or screensaver or anon remailing
> client or free ringtone :-)
Free ringtones. Good attractant these days. I tend to forget about them as
I tend to shun fancy tones - telephones should have a distinctive ring but
"distinctive" does not have to mean "orchestral". But apparently there are
large sets of people who like it. Weird...
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